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Megaf |
https://i.imgur.com/lwoZoLw.jpg |
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ANAND |
Finally auto-voiced! :D |
| 05:30 |
ANAND |
afk |
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| 09:39 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 09:55 |
xerox123_ |
Hello |
| 09:56 |
tenplus1 |
hi xerox |
| 09:57 |
tenplus1 |
Bonemeal, Ethereal NG and Wine mods updated :D |
| 10:01 |
xerox123_ |
http://i.imgur.com/IDwJ4F7.gifv |
| 10:02 |
tenplus1 |
soooo much tape |
| 10:14 |
Fixer |
wasted |
| 10:15 |
tenplus1 |
o/ fixer |
| 10:15 |
Fixer |
\\\o |
| 10:21 |
tenplus1 |
Wine mod adds blue agave to the desert areas in mapgen, collect to ferment into tequila :D |
| 10:26 |
* rdococ |
collects all the blue agave |
| 10:26 |
tenplus1 |
hey rdococ :P |
| 10:26 |
tenplus1 |
it's nice n rare so it doesnt cover the desert floor |
| 10:34 |
tenplus1 |
also, anyone using Ethereal NG mod, I've removed bonemeal so please use the actual Bonemeal mod isntead |
| 10:38 |
Shara |
tenplus1: complicating things again :P |
| 10:38 |
tenplus1 |
hi Shara :) |
| 10:38 |
tenplus1 |
more simplifying things :) |
| 10:38 |
Shara |
How's it going? :) |
| 10:38 |
tenplus1 |
good ta, updating with features... ehe... how's you ? |
| 10:40 |
Shara |
Not bad, just struggling to find the time I want to have for working on mods :P |
| 10:41 |
* tenplus1 |
hires mod elves |
| 10:41 |
Shara |
:D |
| 10:43 |
tenplus1 |
stu si gonna add pova supoprt to 3d_armor :P w00t |
| 10:43 |
* rdococ |
spreads the blue agave so it covers the desert floor |
| 10:44 |
tenplus1 |
good try :P it has checks so they dont spread too mucch :P ehe |
| 10:51 |
* rdococ |
goes into creative mode and places them |
| 10:51 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 11:11 |
* xerox123_ |
has more work to go in the garden :/ |
| 11:11 |
tenplus1 |
enjoy sun |
| 11:12 |
xerox123_ |
And it's 26°C >=< |
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tenplus1 |
hi bnathan |
| 12:01 |
tenplus1 |
er... hi Nathan L:D |
| 12:01 |
NathanS21 |
hi tenplus1 |
| 12:01 |
tenplus1 |
how's things ? |
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| 12:01 |
tenplus1 |
wb fixer |
| 12:02 |
NathanS21 |
Pretty good, enjoying the weather now that it finally warmed up. |
| 12:02 |
tenplus1 |
heh same :D |
| 12:02 |
tenplus1 |
21c and very bright out :D |
| 12:03 |
Fixer |
ty |
| 12:09 |
rdococ |
Yay. |
| 12:10 |
* rdococ |
uses creative mode to grab potatoes from the creative inventory and create vodka |
| 12:10 |
tenplus1 |
wb rdococ |
| 12:15 |
* rdococ |
unicornizes |
| 12:19 |
rdococ |
pwa esyay |
| 12:20 |
rdococ |
pwacla* esyay |
| 12:27 |
xerox123 |
we need a minigames server :P |
| 12:27 |
tenplus1 |
xanadu has lucky block, spleef!, build battle |
| 12:27 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 12:28 |
xerox123 |
<@IdleRPG> luk3yx burned a hole through his leggings while ironing them! luk3yx's set of leggings loses 10% of its effectiveness. |
| 12:28 |
xerox123 |
oh.dear |
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| 12:32 |
Mr_Pardison |
\o tenplus1 |
| 12:32 |
tenplus1 |
hi mister :) how's tricks ? |
| 12:32 |
Mr_Pardison |
the cereal is pretty good, could use something else to it. |
| 12:33 |
tenplus1 |
banana |
| 12:34 |
rdococ |
I'm working on a constructed language (the kind that you speak) |
| 12:34 |
Mr_Pardison |
If I have bananas at home, I'll let them go a bit brown, freeze them and then put them in a smoothie. |
| 12:34 |
rdococ |
It's a weird one because it only has present and non-present tense, not distinguishing between past and future except by context |
| 12:34 |
tenplus1 |
mmm smoothie |
| 12:34 |
Mr_Pardison |
ah, making up your own alphabet. |
| 12:34 |
Mr_Pardison |
great way to kill time at the end of the school year. |
| 12:36 |
Mr_Pardison |
I neglected to finish up the home page of the website. |
| 12:36 |
xerox123 |
having a barbeque tonight \o/ |
| 12:36 |
rdococ |
Mr_Pardison: For the moment it's using the Latin alphabet (the alphabet that languages like English, Spanish, French and German use) |
| 12:36 |
Mr_Pardison |
The other pages I've done but I somehow neglected the home. |
| 12:36 |
Mr_Pardison |
xerox123: any brisket or ribs? |
| 12:37 |
xerox123 |
maybe not brisket, but ribs yes |
| 12:37 |
rdococ |
Mr_Pardison: It has its own grammar and everything |
| 12:37 |
Mr_Pardison |
rdococ: how fancy. |
| 12:38 |
xerox123 |
I finish school on the 21st of June this year :D |
| 12:38 |
Mr_Pardison |
and ribs sound sooo good right now, esp. for breakfast (tbh, well-made BBQ is good pretty much any time) |
| 12:38 |
xerox123 |
as opposed to late/mid July |
| 12:38 |
Mr_Pardison |
nice. |
| 12:38 |
xerox123 |
then I'm on an 18 day summer activity programme |
| 12:38 |
xerox123 |
:D |
| 12:39 |
Mr_Pardison |
I've got a few more weeks left and I still have some things I need to do... and some exams (one in my english class over Macbeth, RIP me) |
| 12:41 |
* rdococ |
gives Mr_Pardison some Minetestian ribs |
| 12:42 |
Mr_Pardison |
St. Louis style dry rub with a mop sauce? |
| 12:42 |
rdococ |
if you code it, sure |
| 12:43 |
* Mr_Pardison |
sighs |
| 12:43 |
Mr_Pardison |
I've got a lot of things swirling around me right now and coding something like that is low on my priority list. |
| 12:44 |
rdococ |
then go hungry |
| 12:44 |
Mr_Pardison |
meh. |
| 12:45 |
rdococ |
pwa dyo [joke] |
| 12:45 |
rdococ |
s/pwa/pwacla/ |
| 12:45 |
rdococ |
Forgot the ergative singular suffix "-cla" on "pwa" |
| 12:46 |
rdococ |
although to be fair it isn't really necessary if you have word order |
| 12:59 |
xerox123 |
working on shrnking my fractal map |
| 12:59 |
xerox123 |
having a look at all the fractal types first though :D |
| 13:00 |
rdococ |
Did you know that fractals can technically be considered to have a fractional dimension? |
| 13:00 |
ANAND |
xerox123, are you referring to your CTF map submission? |
| 13:00 |
xerox123 |
ANAND: yup |
| 13:00 |
rdococ |
There's that space map I was working on |
| 13:01 |
ANAND |
xerox123, that map has already been semi-approved... are you going to make major changes? |
| 13:01 |
xerox123 |
omg, the christmas tree fractal is crazy |
| 13:01 |
xerox123 |
ANAND: ruben said it was too big |
| 13:02 |
ANAND |
is it? |
| 13:02 |
xerox123 |
and laggy (more importantly) |
| 13:02 |
ANAND |
r=140 & h=115 right? |
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| 13:03 |
xerox123 |
yeah, the lags were 320 nodes apart |
| 13:03 |
Mr_Pardison |
ping timeout suks. |
| 13:03 |
xerox123 |
flags* |
| 13:03 |
rdococ |
320 nodes apart? O_o |
| 13:03 |
rdococ |
That's pretty wide |
| 13:04 |
Fixer |
18 day simmer activity gulag |
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| 13:06 |
ANAND |
xerox123, you might want to update your copy of ctf_map mod before proceeding any further, since the mod now automatically handles the map radius and height before exporting to .schem |
| 13:06 |
tenplus1 |
hi Megaf |
| 13:07 |
xerox123 |
oh, ok |
| 13:07 |
Mr_Pardison |
tenplus1: mind kicking Mr-Pardison? |
| 13:08 |
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Mr-Pardison was kicked by tenplus1: Mr-Pardison |
| 13:08 |
Mr_Pardison |
thx. |
| 13:08 |
Fixer |
imagine what can be done if our shitposting gets streamed into actual minetest development |
| 13:08 |
ANAND |
xerox123, schematics are expected to have a radius of 115 nodes and a height of 140 nodes respectively |
| 13:08 |
ANAND |
there can be exceptions though |
| 13:09 |
xerox123 |
would'nt that make the flags super far apart? |
| 13:09 |
xerox123 |
if you place them at the edges, for example |
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ANAND |
That's the exact r and h of existing maps too |
| 13:11 |
ANAND |
The height of HnL was reduced to 140 since it was almost twice of that before multiple maps came into existence |
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xerox123 |
wait, I don't need the whole CTF modpack, right? just ctf_map |
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tenplus1 |
wb tommy |
| 13:18 |
ANAND |
xerox123, yes only ctf_map |
| 13:19 |
xerox123 |
I also made a supermarket map, not sure what happened to it though :P |
| 13:20 |
ANAND |
oh that's about to be reviewed in a couple of hours :) |
| 13:20 |
rdococ |
The conlang is called Pwacladyocmoysh, which is a condensed form of the sentence "Pwacla dyo cmoysh" = "I am speaking to you" |
| 13:20 |
xerox123 |
:DDDD |
| 13:20 |
xerox123 |
rdococ: can't go around copying names from Welsh like that |
| 13:20 |
xerox123 |
:PPP |
| 13:21 |
xerox123 |
Pwacladyocmoysh |
| 13:21 |
rdococ |
xerox123: Lol, it does sound like welsh :P |
| 13:21 |
rdococ |
Well, look like welsh |
| 13:21 |
ANAND |
These reviews were long overdue, but I was way too occupied with my studies and a few personal commitments |
| 13:21 |
ANAND |
But better late than never I guess... :) |
| 13:21 |
xerox123 |
Welsh is a very literal language, for example, the word for microwave oven is "pop-ti-ping" |
| 13:22 |
ANAND |
haha |
| 13:22 |
xerox123 |
and jellyfish is "wibblywobbly" |
| 13:22 |
rdococ |
xerox123: I just use a random word generator |
| 13:22 |
rdococ |
"Pwacla dyo cmoysh" is pronounced "pwa-kyla jo kymoysh" |
| 13:22 |
xerox123 |
I was joing about those two examples, they're jokes about Welsj |
| 13:22 |
rdococ |
The "ky" in the pronunciation being the lighter "k" in "key" |
| 13:23 |
xerox123 |
ANAND: mind if I make some quick tweaks to it before you review it? |
| 13:23 |
xerox123 |
Ill message you the new link to the download on the forum |
| 13:23 |
Mr-Pardison |
XD |
| 13:23 |
ANAND |
no probs, just don't forget to re-upload it :P |
| 13:23 |
ANAND |
ah ok |
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| 13:26 |
IhrFussel |
"if not cp.moderator or (cp.kmtp and not cp.limited_creative) then" << doesn't this line mean "if the player has NOT the moderator priv OR has the kmtp priv BUT NOT the limited_creative priv" ?? |
| 13:26 |
rdococ |
xerox123: In my language, the "r" is pronounced like the "ch" from "loch" in certain dialects (imagine a "s" but with your tongue in the position where you make a "k"), but further back (so it's also like the "c" in "cat") |
| 13:27 |
rdococ |
<x> is pronounced *exactly* like the "ch" from "loch" in certain dialects (imagine trying to make a "h" with your tongue moved upwards) |
| 13:28 |
IhrFussel |
Ohh wait I see my issue |
| 13:28 |
IhrFussel |
I think now it#s correct "if not cp.moderator or (not cp.moderator and cp.kmtp and not cp.limited_creative) then" |
| 13:36 |
tenplus1 |
Stairs Redo updated to use 0.4.16 functions and optimized code |
| 13:37 |
sfan5 |
IhrFussel: that's redundant, it translates to "if not cp.moderator then" |
| 13:38 |
tenplus1 |
o/ sfan |
| 13:39 |
IhrFussel |
sfan5, huh? It should mean "if player is not moderator or player is not moderator but has mtp priv and has not limited_creative priv then execute this" |
| 13:39 |
IhrFussel |
kmtp* |
| 13:39 |
sfan5 |
it means exactly that |
| 13:39 |
sfan5 |
but the rest is redundant |
| 13:41 |
IhrFussel |
The thing is my moderators have moderator and kmtp priv and my helpers have kmtp and limited_creative priv ... now I wanted to add "if helper doesn't want limited_creative" case |
| 13:42 |
IhrFussel |
This was wrong before because moderators with kmtp priv were still counted >> if not cp.moderator or (cp.kmtp and not cp.limited_creative) then |
| 13:44 |
Shara |
Fussel, mostly it seems like you made a weirdly unnecessarily complicated system :D |
| 13:46 |
IhrFussel |
Only in this case... my system is pretty simple because helpers and moderators share most functions (kmtp priv) ... I just didn't want helpers to have unlimited creative so I added limited_creative for them |
| 13:47 |
Shara |
I guess another reason for me not to come back there then |
| 13:48 |
IhrFussel |
Helpers are not fully trusted yet on my server...they are MODs in trial |
| 13:48 |
IhrFussel |
You were a special case, I'm talking about players I don't know that well yet |
| 13:49 |
Shara |
Just always found it so much easier to grant privs seperately, tailored to the person. |
| 13:49 |
Shara |
Then you can slowly build up as they prove they used their current ones well. |
| 13:50 |
IhrFussel |
I do that too but the basic staff privs are given to all of them, so that I don't need to type those one by one |
| 13:50 |
Shara |
Well, I also tend to give certain privs to non-moderators I know I can trust as well |
| 13:51 |
Shara |
Lots of trusted people with kick/ban, regardless of whether they are obligated to moderated, deals with most issues quickly. |
| 13:53 |
IhrFussel |
Well I give all helpers for example the ability to mute others...muting cannot harm the server on a major basis so if they decide to abuse it the damage done is relatively small...that's how I think |
| 13:53 |
* tenplus1 |
only gives out: limit, kick, settime, teleport, fly, creative (sometiems) |
| 13:56 |
Shara |
On RC even regular players can work up to getting noclip, teleport and so on. But it's creative, so they can't be abused in the same ways they might be on survival. |
| 13:57 |
Shara |
Most moderators end up getting basic_privs eventually (which allows a lot more than the basics) |
| 13:57 |
Shara |
But server and privs are completely off limits to anyone, with one exeption. |
| 13:58 |
tenplus1 |
Jesus ? |
| 13:58 |
Shara |
DL is much much stricter in general. |
| 13:58 |
Shara |
Heh |
| 13:58 |
Shara |
whoareyou gets full privs. He's the only one. |
| 13:58 |
xerox123 |
hehe, Jesus |
| 13:59 |
Shara |
He was with the server since... I think the first week it opened, and handled most of the ingame stuff. |
| 13:59 |
Shara |
Didn't think I'd ever pass anyone full privs, but he earned it. |
| 14:00 |
Shara |
As for "Jesus" on RC... I seem to recall banning him at some point, so he's out :P |
| 14:01 |
Mr-Pardison |
good lord.... |
| 14:01 |
xerox123 |
or not so good lord in this case |
| 14:01 |
Shara |
I mean, technically I've banned a whole bunch of devs as well. |
| 14:01 |
Shara |
(or at least their names) |
| 14:02 |
Shara |
So disappointing when a dev signs in and then spams :P |
| 14:03 |
tenplus1 |
ouch, that aint good |
| 14:04 |
Shara |
RC has been through a few impersonation plagues |
| 14:04 |
tenplus1 |
any famous ppl ? |
| 14:04 |
xerox123 |
ANAND: you here? having some issues with placing barriers |
| 14:05 |
Shara |
We've had a Trump... |
| 14:06 |
tenplus1 |
lol, same... also SkyDoesMinecraft, SSundee and a few others :d |
| 14:06 |
xerox123 |
there's a ytssundee on CTF |
| 14:06 |
Shara |
I don't even count the youtuber-wannabes |
| 14:07 |
xerox123 |
do their videos have their name spinning into dubstep? |
| 14:07 |
xerox123 |
hehe |
| 14:12 |
rdococ |
I'm not sure if more MT youtubers would be a good or bad thing |
| 14:12 |
rdococ |
s/more/lots of/ |
| 14:12 |
tenplus1 |
it would be fun to watch |
| 14:13 |
rdococ |
Are there any examples of YKW youtubers that (A) have heard of MT and (B) don't conflate Minetest with MTG? |
| 14:14 |
tenplus1 |
a few of them prolly have heard of it cause I emailed a few top names to do a video :P |
| 14:14 |
xerox123 |
haha |
| 14:14 |
tenplus1 |
wether they do is another story :D |
| 14:15 |
rdococ |
The problem with people conflating MT with MTG is why I think the engine should be renamed - for now, at least to "Minetest Engine" until we find a more suitable name. |
| 14:16 |
Shara |
It's why I think we need more official games |
| 14:16 |
xerox123 |
^ +1 |
| 14:16 |
Shara |
Or at the absolute least a way to make it much much easier for people to find out about and get alternatives |
| 14:16 |
Mr-Pardison |
+11 |
| 14:17 |
rdococ |
I agree with that as well. |
| 14:17 |
Shara |
Of course... the problem is that very few games are actually suitable |
| 14:17 |
rdococ |
+3.14â„¢ |
| 14:17 |
Shara |
Not to mention the issue of most mods depending on default... |
| 14:17 |
Shara |
So any otehr game will have the odds stacked against it to begin with |
| 14:17 |
tenplus1 |
this is why we need a working quest mod with quests/adventure maps made to use |
| 14:18 |
Shara |
I don't care about quests much. I care about having a good, solid survival game that actually feels like a full game by itself |
| 14:18 |
Shara |
One that is fully playable without adding in a stack of mods |
| 14:25 |
IhrFussel |
If it's the same Trump I had he's a troll |
| 14:25 |
Shara |
Of course he was a troll |
| 14:26 |
IhrFussel |
"MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN" |
| 14:26 |
xerox123 |
RC: the door is shut \o/ |
| 14:26 |
Shara |
xerox123: one sec, will open it |
| 14:26 |
xerox123 |
yey |
| 14:27 |
Shara |
Open now |
| 14:27 |
Shara |
Idiot-invasion control methods |
| 14:27 |
Shara |
Sadly it became needed |
| 14:27 |
rdococ |
"MAKE YOU-KNOW-WHAT GREAT AGAIN" |
| 14:28 |
Shara |
I might lift it next month, once study things are not killing me and I can more easily handle server issues |
| 14:28 |
Shara |
Curious if a certain cheat detetion thing actually catches something or not :) |
| 14:30 |
tenplus1 |
erk |
| 14:38 |
tenplus1 |
yup |
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| 15:12 |
tenplus1 |
hi Krock |
| 15:12 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 15:15 |
tenplus1 |
what's new with you dude ? |
| 15:16 |
Krock |
a new record low in motivation I guess :/ |
| 15:17 |
tenplus1 |
it happens... you need some YOU time away from things |
| 15:18 |
IhrFussel |
What o you guys think about a command that teleports the player back to their bones after they died, but when using it they have a cooldown before they can use it again...so if they die more than once during that time the bones are potentially gone? |
| 15:18 |
tenplus1 |
sme as the mc death waypoints ? |
| 15:18 |
Mr-Pardison |
IhrFussel: what about the /killme command being run over and over and over again to generate a bunch of bones? |
| 15:18 |
Mr-Pardison |
ik they could set a killme point with a bed but still. |
| 15:19 |
tenplus1 |
once 0.5x death reasons are up and active the /killme can give the command reason and no bones will be dropped |
| 15:19 |
ANAND |
IhrFussel, you can prevent them from being able to teleport to their bones until the cooldown period expires |
| 15:20 |
Mr-Pardison |
tenplus1: what about if you are making catacombs in survival sans creative priv? |
| 15:20 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, why not just add a HUD element to show them the exact location? using commands is a bit too easy |
| 15:20 |
ANAND |
Better idea |
| 15:20 |
ANAND |
Adheres to the theme of survival |
| 15:21 |
Krock |
inb4 on almost each 0.4.x server you can have at least one itemstack which isn't dropped on death. will write a MTG PR for that however |
| 15:21 |
IhrFussel |
I already have that command and players can use it freely ... the penalty when dying right now is only "EXP loss" but I want to make it more challenging, so I thought about that cooldown |
| 15:22 |
tenplus1 |
rather than XP why not have mana drop |
| 15:22 |
Krock |
rather than mana why not have a item drop |
| 15:23 |
IhrFussel |
Well if a player dies twice in a short amount of time and they can't use the bone tp command, then their bones are potentially in danger which should increase the stress |
| 15:24 |
tenplus1 |
so if you /kill yourself you dont deserve bones :P |
| 15:26 |
IhrFussel |
Well EXP on my server determine the player level which ultimately determines the max HP, damage and certain other things ... losing EXP is a pretty big penalty I'd say cause you can also lose levels |
| 15:27 |
IhrFussel |
But adding the cooldown could make it a bit more exciting without making it too hardcore difficult |
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tenplus1 |
hi bwarden |
| 16:02 |
IhrFussel |
I get lots of "generateImage()" errors for stuff that definitely HAS a texture |
| 16:03 |
IhrFussel |
Like default_tinblock.png |
| 16:03 |
ANAND |
Is it in the "textures" folder? ;) |
| 16:04 |
IhrFussel |
Did you guys rename textures in MTG? |
| 16:04 |
IhrFussel |
Looks like a mod is looking for default_tinblock but the actual name is default_tin_block |
| 16:05 |
Shara |
no recent renaming that I know of |
| 16:05 |
ANAND |
that's the correct name, looks like the mod's got it wrong |
| 16:05 |
Shara |
I usually try and stop any renaming of nodes at least |
| 16:05 |
tenplus1 |
you sometimes get image errors depending on formatting of PNG... I use optipng to strip all information to stop these errors |
| 16:07 |
IhrFussel |
tenplus1, nope it seems to be a mod which loops through X nodes and looks for the texture based on the node string... default:tinblock is the node name but default_tin_block.png the texture |
| 16:07 |
tenplus1 |
strange |
| 16:08 |
IhrFussel |
Some mod likely looks at "default:tinblock" and assumes the texture name must be default_tinblock.png |
| 16:08 |
IhrFussel |
Which it isn't |
| 16:08 |
ANAND |
which mod exactly? |
| 16:09 |
rdococ |
Concept: A drag-and-drop programming language similar to Scratch, but for minetest modding |
| 16:09 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 16:09 |
rubenwardy |
someone was working on that |
| 16:09 |
ANAND |
rdococ, good idea |
| 16:10 |
ANAND |
yea I remember seeing a thread on that |
| 16:10 |
rubenwardy |
using Google's blocking thing |
| 16:10 |
rdococ |
rubenwardy: Actually, I was planning to use Snap!'s code mapping feature |
| 16:10 |
ANAND |
They were going to use Qt it seems |
| 16:10 |
IhrFussel |
ANAND, I have ~ 180 mods on my server, so not 100% sure...my best guess would be moreblocks |
| 16:10 |
IhrFussel |
When it registers the default nodes to the saw |
| 16:10 |
rubenwardy |
wrote a thing: https://blog.rubenwardy.com/2018/05/07/mingw-copy-dlls/ |
| 16:10 |
Shara |
rdococ: I wonder in what direction that would take average mod quality :D |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
well, it shouldn't be for modding as such |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
but for teaching programming |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
so turtle programming and such |
| 16:11 |
Shara |
rubenwardy: I've seen people try and use scracth-like languages for "serious" programming before. |
| 16:11 |
rdococ |
rubenwardy: You could teach programming in Minetest with a programmable turtle mod, which already exists in the form of basic_robots |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
basic_robots suchs |
| 16:12 |
rubenwardy |
*sucks |
| 16:12 |
Shara |
You produce something like that for MT, and people will use it to make (what they consider) totally usable mods |
| 16:12 |
IhrFussel |
It could also be the shop mod |
| 16:12 |
rubenwardy |
I went through and reviewed all the mods for turtles half a year ago |
| 16:12 |
rubenwardy |
and turtleminer by that german teacher was the best |
| 16:12 |
sfan5 |
>objdump is the Windows’ equivalent to ldd. |
| 16:12 |
sfan5 |
that's incorrect |
| 16:12 |
rubenwardy |
sue |
| 16:12 |
ANAND |
IhrFussel, I've never encountered any such issues on your server before, so the culprit is most likely a new mod. |
| 16:12 |
rubenwardy |
sue me |
| 16:13 |
rdococ |
rubenwardy: Most of those kinds of mods just have a Lua interface (using Lua to control the turtle) |
| 16:13 |
ANAND |
ruben, that's a very helpful write-up, thx |
| 16:13 |
sfan5 |
1) objdump is not windows specific 2) it only reads the executable, but does not resolve all library dependencies |
| 16:13 |
rdococ |
Unfortunately, formspecs at the moment probably wouldn't handle a Scratch-like environment very well as there are no draggable elements apart from items |
| 16:14 |
IhrFussel |
ANAND, it only happens occasionally...sometimes when a player joins other times when a player uses certain things... it definitely is something that parses through node names and assumes that the texture name must be the same as the string |
| 16:14 |
rubenwardy |
it shouldn't be done in Minetest anyway |
| 16:14 |
rubenwardy |
it should be an external program |
| 16:14 |
rdococ |
An inventory list-based programming language ingame would still be interesting, though |
| 16:14 |
rubenwardy |
which communicates somehow |
| 16:15 |
rubenwardy |
also, updated |
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| 16:20 |
ANAND |
IhrFussel, it's possible to narrow down on the bug, if an alert is triggered when a player "uses certain things" that causes it. |
| 16:21 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
| 16:21 |
tenplus1 |
rubenwardy: is it possible to make slopes using nodeboxes ? |
| 16:22 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 16:22 |
rubenwardy |
nodeboxes can only be boxes |
| 16:22 |
ANAND |
tenplus1, you could make microscopic stairs which are essentially slopes |
| 16:22 |
tenplus1 |
shame, kinda wish a new node style was possible you can add FACES |
| 16:23 |
ANAND |
very troublesome though |
| 16:23 |
ANAND |
I second that idea |
| 16:24 |
tenplus1 |
that way you could do points to make a face with texture... dunno how it'd work out tho :D |
| 16:28 |
* Krock |
runs his own MSVC2010 binaries of 0.4.15 to check the backwards compat - in Wine 8) |
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| 16:28 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
| 16:28 |
Krock |
hi Jordach |
| 16:28 |
tenplus1 |
you have returned |
| 16:28 |
rubenwardy |
sfan5: thanks for the clarification, didn't realise that it wasn't recursive. Updated page with new script |
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| 16:29 |
tenplus1 |
hi aerozoic |
| 16:30 |
Jordach |
ting |
| 16:30 |
Jordach |
try pinging me |
| 16:30 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach: |
| 16:30 |
Jordach |
worth |
| 16:30 |
aerozoic |
wazup tenplus1! |
| 16:30 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy: again |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach: o/ |
| 16:31 |
Jordach |
better than the previous crt green |
| 16:31 |
Jordach |
(literally identical to a retro apple II display) |
| 16:35 |
tenplus1 |
Jordach: did you ever see "The best mac is an amiga" video ? |
| 16:35 |
aerozoic |
Hey tenplus1, when you add new crops to farming, how do you get them to spawn on the map that's already been explored? |
| 16:35 |
tenplus1 |
aerozoic: you typically dont unless you type: /deleteblocks here 20 |
| 16:35 |
tenplus1 |
and it regens that area, usually removing anything built as well :D |
| 16:36 |
aerozoic |
Yeah that command is dangerous XD I just thought maybe you knew a better way :) |
| 16:36 |
tenplus1 |
there's so much of the map to explore you tend to find the newer crops, either that or you can find them inside a lucky block :D |
| 16:37 |
tenplus1 |
I was tempted to make a "Garden" plant that you break open and it'll drop food/seeds depending on where you are n the world |
| 16:37 |
tenplus1 |
that way they spawn everywhere and always drop random items |
| 16:37 |
aerozoic |
tenplus1, that would be awesome! |
| 16:37 |
Mr-Pardison |
kind of like a luckyblock but in the form of a plant. |
| 16:37 |
* longerstaff13 |
got a new keyboard and mouse today o/ |
| 16:37 |
* Mr-Pardison |
^5's longerstaff13 |
| 16:37 |
aerozoic |
Actually more like a mob spawner |
| 16:38 |
longerstaff13 |
wireless too :D |
| 16:38 |
aerozoic |
yay longerstaff13 |
| 16:38 |
longerstaff13 |
only one USB taken in the back of my tower now :P |
| 16:38 |
Mr-Pardison |
noice. |
| 16:38 |
longerstaff13 |
o/ aerozoic and Mr-Pardison |
| 16:39 |
aerozoic |
oh tenplus1 i misread that XD |
| 16:39 |
aerozoic |
How about an invisible node for admins to place on the map that randomly spawns farming plants in a 10 node radius? |
| 16:40 |
tenplus1 |
admin tend to have "creative" priv so can give themselves anything :D |
| 16:40 |
aerozoic |
Creative wouldn't help though. |
| 16:41 |
IhrFussel |
I can see that being useful for when lots of map was already generated and the admin wants to replant certain parts of the map with plants... the randomness makes it more realistic |
| 16:42 |
tenplus1 |
fussel: which idea, special admin node or Garden node ? |
| 16:42 |
IhrFussel |
The node that spawns a random plant in a certain radius (not sure if 10 would be enough though) |
| 16:42 |
aerozoic |
The key to the admin node is it's automatic. Place it and forget it. |
| 16:43 |
IhrFussel |
That would require a ABM or LBM I think...or nodetimer |
| 16:44 |
IhrFussel |
LBM makes more sense maybe cause nobody is going to wait on the map for X minutes to see plants appear |
| 16:44 |
tenplus1 |
not at all... could easily make "Admin Green Stick" that you use on soil to spawn random plants |
| 16:45 |
aerozoic |
Bonemeal mod does that. But it's not automatic. |
| 16:46 |
tenplus1 |
bonemeal only grows grass/flowers on dirt, or assists in growing saplings and crops that are tehre |
| 16:46 |
tenplus1 |
I *could* add a green stick for admin use to place random plants tho |
| 16:47 |
aerozoic |
Would it work automatic? |
| 16:47 |
tenplus1 |
yeh, use the stick like a tool on dirt and watch crops appear |
| 16:47 |
aerozoic |
I mean after it's used. I don't want to create a chore for myself. I need something that will persist. See what i mean? |
| 16:47 |
tenplus1 |
how do you mean ? |
| 16:49 |
aerozoic |
The map around spawn and within a few thousand nodes will never be regenerated. But i would like farming crops to auto respawn in that area so players aren't forced to wander to far off places in search of new crops. |
| 16:49 |
tenplus1 |
or players could do the same as Xanadu and whoever finds a new crop, plant it near spawn at the public farms and grows it for all to harvest |
| 16:49 |
aerozoic |
I don't want the chore of manually adding crops on a regular basis. |
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| 16:57 |
tenplus1 |
this would make players lazy though, they wouldnt explore certain biomes to find specific food items... |
| 16:57 |
tenplus1 |
woudl make for a boring game |
| 16:57 |
tenplus1 |
brb |
| 17:01 |
tenplus1 |
or... setup a smartshop that accepts 50 cobble for a food item, and since they do admin shops they would never run out |
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| 17:04 |
tenplus1 |
hi Raven |
| 17:05 |
Raven262 |
Hi ten |
| 17:06 |
Mr-Pardison |
hola Raven262 |
| 17:06 |
longerstaff13 |
o/ |
| 17:06 |
aerozoic |
I would expect the admin node to only spawn crops specific to the biome it's placed in. |
| 17:06 |
tenplus1 |
o/ longer |
| 17:06 |
Raven262 |
Hi |
| 17:10 |
Krock |
Does any mod make use of the "hand" slot yet? |
| 17:20 |
Shara |
I didn't realise there was one |
| 17:21 |
Krock |
heh |
| 17:45 |
rdococ |
Hm, delimited continuations are weird |
| 17:46 |
tenplus1 |
? |
| 17:46 |
rdococ |
they just look like closures to me |
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| 17:46 |
rdococ |
to be honest I don't think continuations are an essential feature of programming languages except maybe in web programming |
| 17:46 |
tenplus1 |
o/ Jordach |
| 17:46 |
tenplus1 |
example rdococ |
| 17:46 |
* rdococ |
activates the FireFox |
| 17:46 |
* Jordach |
nearly finished theming Quaasel properly |
| 17:47 |
rdococ |
tenplus1: there's a thing called a search engine, use itâ„¢ |
| 17:48 |
tenplus1 |
oh, returns |
| 17:50 |
longerstaff13 |
this heat is killing me >.< |
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| 17:50 |
Jordach |
hmmm |
| 17:50 |
longerstaff13 |
o/ Jordach |
| 17:50 |
Jordach |
almost better than default colouring |
| 17:50 |
* Jordach |
test |
| 17:50 |
longerstaff13 |
failed :P |
| 17:50 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 17:51 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/2gvdyqn.png |
| 17:51 |
Jordach |
there we go |
| 17:51 |
rdococ |
UK still in a heat-wave |
| 17:51 |
Jordach |
joins are brighter than parts |
| 17:51 |
rdococ |
see? climate change IS realâ„¢ |
| 17:51 |
tenplus1 |
o.O |
| 17:52 |
rdococ |
Jordach likes rejoining the channel over and over |
| 17:52 |
longerstaff13 |
I have a desk fan running and it's still not cool enough |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
rdococ: >mfw you can't reload Quassel themes on the fly |
| 17:52 |
longerstaff13 |
and 2 windows open |
| 17:52 |
tenplus1 |
what temp ya got ? |
| 17:52 |
longerstaff13 |
tenplus1: me? |
| 17:52 |
rdococ |
Jordach uses Quassel |
| 17:53 |
* longerstaff13 |
uses hexchat |
| 17:53 |
tenplus1 |
yeh |
| 17:53 |
longerstaff13 |
lemme see |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
rdococ: no decent FOSS IRC clients on macOS |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
limechat looks like ass |
| 17:53 |
longerstaff13 |
HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.13.0-145-generic i686 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.99GHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.0GB, 51.6% free ** Disk: Total: 71.2GB, 86.6% free ** VGA: 8086:2772 ** Sound: ICH4 - Intel ICH7 ** Ethernet: 14e4:1677 ** Uptime: 1h 21m 17s ** |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
>pentium 4 |
| 17:53 |
rdococ |
Jordach: Maybe that's because macOS isn't a decent OS |
| 17:53 |
longerstaff13 |
heh |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
>literally BSD with commercial software |
| 17:54 |
Jordach |
in the 90s, it was ;) |
| 17:54 |
rdococ |
I heard AmigaOS is still being developed by its community |
| 17:54 |
Jordach |
fastest macs now are the hackintosh machines |
| 17:55 |
longerstaff13 |
Amiga was created by Commodore |
| 17:55 |
longerstaff13 |
my dad had one when he was a kid |
| 17:55 |
rdococ |
Commodore 1024 |
| 17:56 |
longerstaff13 |
some say Bill Gates stole the idea for Windows from Commodore's AmigaOS |
| 17:56 |
Jordach |
longerstaff13: https://i.imgur.com/jU23UEs.png |
| 17:57 |
longerstaff13 |
lol |
| 17:57 |
tenplus1 |
yeah Amiga Os 4.1 is released on a custom board with new tech :) is pretty good |
| 17:57 |
tenplus1 |
at the time my Amiga 1200 outperformed any pc's that were available, even gfx and sound |
| 17:58 |
Jordach |
Amigas were great |
| 17:58 |
rdococ |
if we had time travel, your computer could theoretically run at an arbitrarily large framerate |
| 17:58 |
Jordach |
i had my oldest brothers 1200 with all the games |
| 17:58 |
tenplus1 |
+100 |
| 17:58 |
Jordach |
cannon fodder? lemmings? frontier II and FFE? cheeeeeck |
| 17:58 |
longerstaff13 |
lemmings :D |
| 17:59 |
Jordach |
think there was elite plus or something |
| 17:59 |
tenplus1 |
xenon II, menace, stryx, worms armageddon |
| 17:59 |
Jordach |
armageddon is the best worms |
| 17:59 |
Jordach |
followed up by II and the new W.M.D |
| 17:59 |
longerstaff13 |
[18:44:55] <tcs> <Snowy> *begins to fall asleep* |
| 17:59 |
longerstaff13 |
[18:45:07] <tcs> <longerstaff13> *makes crow sounds* |
| 17:59 |
tenplus1 |
I got it on steam :P |
| 17:59 |
longerstaff13 |
ignroe that ^ |
| 17:59 |
Jordach |
tenplus1: same here |
| 17:59 |
* rdococ |
turns into a worm |
| 17:59 |
longerstaff13 |
that was a mistake XD |
| 18:00 |
longerstaff13 |
I meant to paste this: Swap: 2.0G 290M 1.7G |
| 18:00 |
tenplus1 |
we even had doom clones on amiga :) not bad for 7mhz and 12mhz systems |
| 18:00 |
Jordach |
tenplus1: glooooooom |
| 18:01 |
tenplus1 |
ehe |
| 18:01 |
Jordach |
the akiko chip in the cd32 was made for the pseudo 3d games like doom |
| 18:01 |
Jordach |
shame, since the 1200 was supposed to have that very chip |
| 18:02 |
Jordach |
also tenplus1; bonus points for retromancave |
| 18:02 |
* rdococ |
tries calling tenplus1, but it doesn't work so he tries tail calling instead |
| 18:02 |
tenplus1 |
my cd32 had sx-32 expansion to turn it into computer :D was funny |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
fucking heresy |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
HERESY |
| 18:03 |
tenplus1 |
:PPP |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
clementine uses more battery than VLC |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
>VLC uses less battery than clementine |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
>VLC |
| 18:03 |
tenplus1 |
stick with vlc... or if it's just audio Audacious |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
my hi-res flac collection wants a word |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
am streaming it over SMBv2 from my windows PC |
| 18:03 |
tenplus1 |
jordach, linux or windows ? |
| 18:04 |
Jordach |
tenplus1: macOS you silly spud |
| 18:04 |
tenplus1 |
aww shame... XmPlay is really good and only 80kb |
| 18:05 |
longerstaff13 |
hehe, silly spud |
| 18:09 |
Jordach |
iTunes is fantastic as a player, just sucks at not supporting FLAC |
| 18:09 |
tenplus1 |
*blegh* |
| 18:09 |
Jordach |
it's only weakspot is FLAC support |
| 18:10 |
longerstaff13 |
eww, itunes |
| 18:11 |
tenplus1 |
typically for music I use Audacious, but mpv is really good too |
| 18:11 |
longerstaff13 |
I stream from youtube |
| 18:12 |
tenplus1 |
that uses a lot of memory |
| 18:12 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/kQ0rHnD.png |
| 18:12 |
longerstaff13 |
it does yeah but unlimited music |
| 18:12 |
longerstaff13 |
especially with adblockers :P |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, longerstaff13 ^^^ |
| 18:14 |
longerstaff13 |
sweet |
| 18:14 |
longerstaff13 |
Jordach: you have discord? |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
*duh* |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
i nearly became top rank in the MT unoffical one because i'm a godtier shitposter |
| 18:15 |
longerstaff13 |
lol |
| 18:15 |
tenplus1 |
hhe |
| 18:15 |
Jordach |
doesn't help i'm half aussie along with severe mental issues keeping me at home permanently |
| 18:16 |
longerstaff13 |
I'm autistic and I can't go out by myself, so I sort of know how you feel there, I said sort of |
| 18:16 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 18:17 |
* rdococ |
hugs the Jordach |
| 18:17 |
* tenplus1 |
fills room with yays |
| 18:17 |
* rdococ |
sneakily replaced the Jordach's macOS with a Linux-based lookalike |
| 18:17 |
Jordach |
inb4 the CnD'd pearos |
| 18:17 |
longerstaff13 |
lol |
| 18:17 |
longerstaff13 |
I made mine look like Windows XP XD |
| 18:18 |
longerstaff13 |
with a few tweaks |
| 18:18 |
Jordach |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZgGOFS9ysI |
| 18:18 |
tenplus1 |
I had the redmond theme for a while cause I hated fiddling with gtk2/gtk3 themes |
| 18:18 |
rdococ |
I feel like I'm one of the only people that doesn't care what their desktop looks like as long as it works |
| 18:18 |
longerstaff13 |
rdococ: I used to be like that |
| 18:18 |
Jordach |
i actually still have the original release ISO |
| 18:18 |
rdococ |
longerstaff13: what changed?â„¢ |
| 18:18 |
Jordach |
sitting on my desktop |
| 18:19 |
Jordach |
rdococ: i'd rather use macOS due to massice ACPI power optimisations it does |
| 18:19 |
tenplus1 |
so long as it's useable any theme will do, although "ThinIce" theme is the fastest for redraw but no gtk3.. pah! |
| 18:19 |
Jordach |
also instant on is glorious |
| 18:20 |
Jordach |
(open the lid and it's already woke up from sleep) |
| 18:20 |
longerstaff13 |
I started looking at what I could do, so I changed the colour of the taskbar on this tower, it's Lubuntu by the way, then I changed the launcher icon to have Windows XP's start button, I grabbed that from the internet and resized it on Kolourpaint4 |
| 18:20 |
longerstaff13 |
changed the desktop background and the window borders |
| 18:20 |
rdococ |
Jordach: My setup does the same thing, open lid and it's awake |
| 18:21 |
rdococ |
although it doesn't actually go to sleep so nevermind |
| 18:21 |
Jordach |
rdococ: i mean i can dual boot linux, it's just that linux winds me up when i want to do something and still have to whip the terminal out |
| 18:21 |
Jordach |
(steam and AMD Radeon anyone?) |
| 18:21 |
rdococ |
Jordach: in your last screenshot you had a terminal whipped out |
| 18:22 |
rdococ |
I have AMD Radeon R3 graphics and I did have Steam installed at one point |
| 18:22 |
Jordach |
for screenfetch / neofetch discussions only :) |
| 18:22 |
longerstaff13 |
Jordach: my laptop has a Radeon GPU |
| 18:22 |
Jordach |
probably an APU |
| 18:22 |
Jordach |
which has ARSE support |
| 18:22 |
longerstaff13 |
lol |
| 18:22 |
rdococ |
I love ARSE support |
| 18:22 |
rdococ |
it means my farts smell nice, unlike Jordach's ;) |
| 18:22 |
longerstaff13 |
XD |
| 18:22 |
tenplus1 |
xubuntu 18.04 has good amd/radeon support now |
| 18:22 |
tenplus1 |
the new kernel helps a lto |
| 18:22 |
Jordach |
my old HP sucked so much shit while using manjaro, windows 10 even ran better than a full blown linux install |
| 18:22 |
rdococ |
^ |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
the only upside to that shitty HP printer is the cheap ink |
| 18:23 |
longerstaff13 |
I got this tower from my uncle who had Windows 7 on it |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
(and the high speed printing mode) |
| 18:23 |
longerstaff13 |
much faster on Linux |
| 18:23 |
rdococ |
tenplus1: It also has good compatibility with ARSE |
| 18:23 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
| 18:24 |
rdococ |
Since Jordach's OS is incompatible with his ARSE, he gets symptoms such as computer diarrhoea |
| 18:24 |
longerstaff13 |
I laughed at that ^ |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
rdococ: i mean the support for APUs specifically are arse |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
nowhere near as good as say a dedicated GPU |
| 18:25 |
rdococ |
Jordach: it's not my fault I chose this laptop foolishly for its "oh-so-amazing" 1 TB of disk space I'll never use |
| 18:25 |
rdococ |
...wait, maybe it is |
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| 18:25 |
Jordach |
rdococ: lmao i've nearly in four years gone through my 2TB disk at last |
| 18:25 |
rdococ |
Sisod, Mr_Pardison! |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
and still have like 800GB spare |
| 18:26 |
Mr_Pardison |
gracias, rdococ |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
i'm never going to fill that bastard, no matter how much flac i torrnet |
| 18:26 |
rdococ |
3 TB in 4 years, Jordach? |
| 18:26 |
rdococ |
s/3/1/ |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
effectively |
| 18:26 |
tenplus1 |
120gb ssd here with 40gb free, and handles all my files/mods |
| 18:26 |
longerstaff13 |
rdococ, Jordach, tenplus1: https://postimg.cc/image/x179omvnb/ |
| 18:26 |
rdococ |
ugh, I'm never gonna get a new computer at this rate |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
i even found my old Pentium 4 desktop that ran linux backed up on that drive |
| 18:26 |
rdococ |
I wish this one would stop working |
| 18:26 |
rdococ |
longerstaff13: why would you make your OS look like Windows |
| 18:26 |
longerstaff13 |
:P |
| 18:27 |
Jordach |
people bitch at me for buying a Mac but i don't see any ultrabooks with the quality of a macbook |
| 18:27 |
tenplus1 |
heh nice desky longer |
| 18:27 |
rdococ |
Jordach: "quality" meaning sleek design and high priceâ„¢ |
| 18:27 |
longerstaff13 |
thanks :P |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
rdococ: not if you go grade a refurb from an official distributor ;) |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
brand new 3 charge cycle battery too |
| 18:28 |
* tenplus1 |
has old CompaqM2000 laptop (18 years old) that runs Lubuntu 18.04 perfectly |
| 18:28 |
rdococ |
Jordach is annoyed at people annoyed because he brought from a proprietary copycatâ„¢ |
| 18:28 |
Mr_Pardison |
longerstaff13: what's CRRCsim? |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
rdococ: lmao no |
| 18:28 |
rdococ |
â„¢ |
| 18:28 |
longerstaff13 |
Mr_Pardison: airplane s#imulator |
| 18:28 |
Mr-Pardison |
ah. |
| 18:28 |
longerstaff13 |
oops |
| 18:28 |
Mr-Pardison |
thx. |
| 18:28 |
longerstaff13 |
yw |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
i'd rather use something that's decent and has a reasonable keyboard |
| 18:28 |
rdococ |
Like my computerâ„¢ |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
i tried those butterfly keys |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
http://no.pe |
| 18:29 |
rdococ |
what is a butterfly key |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
those new macbook keys |
| 18:29 |
longerstaff13 |
my tower is from around 2004-2008 |
| 18:29 |
xerox123 |
flightgear is a better simulator |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
^ |
| 18:29 |
rdococ |
https://tinyurl.com/y9tyhsgv |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
*it's hip to be a square* |
| 18:30 |
rdococ |
since when are keys not usually square except for a few |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
>literally misses the literal meaning and not keyboard |
| 18:30 |
rdococ |
>I searched "butterfly keys" and that's what came up |
| 18:31 |
rdococ |
hm, I wouldn't know what butterfly keys feel like |
| 18:31 |
rdococ |
what doors can they unlock? |
| 18:31 |
longerstaff13 |
lol |
| 18:31 |
rdococ |
hm, evaluating an AST is effectively a depth-first search... wonder what would happen if you did a breadth-first search instead |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
rdococ: https://i.imgur.com/O1Dtece.jpg |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
they feel like tactile keys |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
but have very minimal travel distance which i prefer |
| 18:32 |
rdococ |
sounds tasty |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
wait no |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
i prefer long travel distance |
| 18:33 |
Krock |
flat design for OS/websites: yay, flat design for keyboards: nay. |
| 18:33 |
Jordach |
good tactile keys with good depression is like me_irl |
| 18:33 |
Mr-Pardison |
it's a flatboard. |
| 18:33 |
rdococ |
my keyboard has a flat design, kinda hurts my fingers after a while |
| 18:33 |
Jordach |
rdococ: the keys on the MBA are great |
| 18:33 |
rdococ |
but the non-flat ones can be a pain to use too |
| 18:33 |
longerstaff13 |
this new keyboard is a newer flat keyboard |
| 18:33 |
Mr-Pardison |
ergo, non-flat designs seem to be best. |
| 18:34 |
Jordach |
the whole keyboard and trackpad portion is entirely wedge shaped |
| 18:34 |
tenplus1 |
das mine: https://c.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/acer-aspire-s24-5.jpg |
| 18:34 |
rdococ |
ergo, Mr-Pardison has yayed |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
i only bought a razer kb because it was dirt cheap and brand new |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
unlike the mice that die if you breathe slightly funny |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
this thing just tanks my high WPM |
| 18:45 |
tenplus1 |
I wonder if BlurayAudio has same clarity as original vinyl/tape ? |
| 18:45 |
* rdococ |
wows and flutters |
| 18:45 |
Jordach |
tenplus1: ask DSD |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
(DSD is the original audio mastering format used for CD since the late 80s and is currently the limits to hi-res mastering) |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
it's a completely overkill format, which tracks might range from 400mb to 1GB+ |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
per *single* track |
| 18:51 |
tenplus1 |
oo |
| 18:52 |
Jordach |
my Sony Walkman 2017 is capable of playing back DSD |
| 18:53 |
Jordach |
but by doing so it reduces battery from 50 hours to just under 15 |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
(i mean, we have the technology to capture both visuals as perfect 3d models and perfect audio captures these days, just not the hardware to output it) |
| 18:54 |
tenplus1 |
it'll get there eventualy |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
my AKG Monitors do a great job of handling 320kbps |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
they really shine when given hi-res |
| 18:55 |
Jordach |
these at launched were RRP'd at $650 USD |
| 18:55 |
tenplus1 |
most of my music has been recoded to Ogg Vorbis |
| 18:56 |
Jordach |
tenplus1: you can buy em off amazon (and still made in slovakia) for about $222 USD now |
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| 18:57 |
tenplus1 |
hi evergreen |
| 19:05 |
* Jordach |
meows at EvergreenTree |
| 19:05 |
* Mr-Pardison |
hands Jordach a cat |
| 19:05 |
Jordach |
i already have two |
| 19:05 |
EvergreenTree |
What does [off] do? Does it disable message logging? |
| 19:05 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 19:05 |
Mr-Pardison |
si. |
| 19:06 |
EvergreenTree |
ah |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
Mr-Pardison: the neibourhood cat that visits me a lot isn't afraid of me |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/OWf8NCK.jpg |
| 19:07 |
Jordach |
thank god for my phone having native 2x optical zoom |
| 19:07 |
Mr-Pardison |
looks like a cat where I live. |
| 19:15 |
Krock |
Jordach, MTB needs that image |
| 19:16 |
Mr-Pardison |
Krock: MTB? |
| 19:16 |
Jordach |
Krock: heres 820 ish photos of my kittens since 2 months old |
| 19:16 |
Jordach |
https://photos.app.goo.gl/j81hVXA0akVRwgf72 |
| 19:16 |
Krock |
MinetestBot |
| 19:17 |
Mr-Pardison |
Shara: ^ sooo cute. |
| 19:17 |
Krock |
wow. your kittens' life is better documented than mine |
| 19:18 |
Shara |
Jordach's kittens are cuteness indeed |
| 19:18 |
Krock |
/ TODO: Document |
| 19:22 |
Mr-Pardison |
It's a catfish: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMmlYzEu61QzUKCicJmBzCevYGotYGrKwa8lvI15IObykvEtneVwN5XVfGBCrO6DA/photo/AF1QipO1dE9OVyYI9UtVa-iWDgaKLJ69PthjThS0KjV1?key=R0ZHbHZ3OEdYTWdyUTBtWVFtUEVQNTVFREIyLVZB |
| 19:29 |
rdococ |
It's a bobcat: https://tinyurl.com/y7ysftwj |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
HEY, LITTLE DRUM |
| 19:42 |
Jordach |
Shara: when the camera quality upgrades that's when i got my Note 8 |
| 19:42 |
Jordach |
(october 8 i think) |
| 19:42 |
Jordach |
though at some point i'll add the new photos in as well |
| 19:48 |
Jordach |
Shara: added approximately another 1000 photos |
| 19:50 |
Mr-Pardison |
I really like how sharp the images are. |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
praise the goddamn galaxy note 8's dual cameras |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
i didn't buy a £1000 phone for cat pictures (maybe) |
| 19:51 |
rdococ |
Now we just need to stick the bobcat's head in a fish bowl and we'll get a bobcatfish |
| 19:51 |
Mr-Pardison |
If you did, I wouldn't judge. |
| 19:51 |
Jordach |
Mr-Pardison: the pen is handy for when i need to jot down SP ideas |
| 19:51 |
Jordach |
and my mac isn't nearby for me to type |
| 19:53 |
Jordach |
the cats have been allowed to walk in the snow |
| 19:53 |
Jordach |
neither of them were fans |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
at some point i'll switch to iCloud as primary hosting for cat pictures |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
and GPhotos as backup |
| 19:59 |
Jordach |
Shara: more pictures incoming |
| 20:01 |
* Mr-Pardison |
shall bookmark the page |
| 20:01 |
* Shara |
drows in cute |
| 20:01 |
Shara |
drowns* |
| 20:01 |
Mr-Pardison |
g2g cya tomorrow |
| 20:02 |
* Mr-Pardison |
throws Shara a life saver candy |
| 20:02 |
Shara |
thanks |
| 20:02 |
* Shara |
drowns in cute with candy |
| 20:02 |
Shara |
I'm not sure what else he was expecting. |
| 20:02 |
tenplus1 |
nite folks o/ |
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| 20:03 |
ThomasMonroe |
not sure how one exactly drowns in the abstract idea called cute, but okay xD |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
more pictures added (63) |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
cats were given their large cage and taken outside for some sunshine |
| 20:04 |
ThomasMonroe |
hey Calinou I placed 4th in the U1500 Blitz tourney on lichess just now :D |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
todo: get some cat harnesses |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
there, all photos collated |
| 20:10 |
Jordach |
!tell Mr-Pardison Space Cat II: The Search for Birch https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMmlYzEu61QzUKCicJmBzCevYGotYGrKwa8lvI15IObykvEtneVwN5XVfGBCrO6DA/photo/AF1QipNS-xhejLaZdoq6-fLnDqZE-Ycnncukcwavhqka?key=R0ZHbHZ3OEdYTWdyUTBtWVFtUEVQNTVFREIyLVZB |
| 20:10 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: I'll pass that on when Mr-Pardison is around |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
Shara: ^ Ash does this a lot |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
ThomasMonroe: nice |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
I don't do well in tournaments, not even the U1500 ones :| |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
my best was like 34% |
| 20:12 |
ThomasMonroe |
ah, everyone's different :) |
| 20:12 |
Shara |
Jordach: one of mine (the tiny one) now pretends to be cold so she can come under the blankets in the night. Then stays there for most of the day as well. I've started calling her the cave cat. |
| 20:13 |
Jordach |
Shara: he's a silly bugger, but he loves the other black and white cat that visits |
| 20:13 |
Jordach |
(he's gone nose to nose through the glass at the back door) |
| 20:13 |
Jordach |
though, this cat doesn't actually have any collar on |
| 20:13 |
Jordach |
(we're not sure if he's chipped or not) |
| 20:14 |
Shara |
Mine don't get on with the only other local cats... but probably because those are large and pretty aggressive toms |
| 20:16 |
ThomasMonroe |
or just plain crabby |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
we ended up adopting these two after it was too quiet in our house and kitten academy wasnt noisy enough at times |
| 20:16 |
Shara |
Mine are chipped, but don't wear collars. We tried for a while, but they always managed to get them off |
| 20:18 |
Jordach |
our boys don't mind, but birch is always the first to take it off |
| 20:18 |
Jordach |
(we've thought about elastic bow ties) |
| 20:19 |
Shara |
Thankfully mine usually stay close to home anyway, especially the tiny one |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
ash rarely sits on my lap |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
he came in my bed, sat down on my lap and started kneading me |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
followed up by grabbing my hand and making me give him scritches |
| 20:22 |
IhrFussel |
Why do so many people think that accounts are tied to one device? I already read that claim a few times on my server & now I'm guessing this user thinks the same: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=318034#p318034 |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
people are tards these days with technology |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
eg, unable to do anything more than use a touchscreen |
| 20:23 |
IhrFussel |
I will add a big fat info to my server that explains the truth to them |
| 20:24 |
IhrFussel |
You know my server disallows alt-accounts and people thinking that they need one account per device sometimes create multiple accounts effectively breaking the rule |
| 20:26 |
Jordach |
Minetest needs a proper UX rework |
| 20:26 |
Jordach |
i mean that shit |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
i don't mean a band-aid with the current system |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
i mean a full on board tutorial that includes the basics of multiplayer |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
servers and how accounts are done |
| 20:31 |
Shara |
then watch those who need the tutorial fail to find/activate/whatever it |
| 20:32 |
rdococ |
and if you shove it in their faces the first time Minetest starts, you'll get people that don't need the tutorial complaining, and if you have an option to skip the tutorial, you can watch those who need it skip it because they find it boring |
| 20:33 |
* BillyS |
curses MySQL |
| 20:33 |
* rdococ |
watches as BillyS curses his squeal |
| 20:33 |
Shara |
rdococ: sounds about right |
| 20:33 |
Jordach |
rdococ: if they read the manual there'd be an empty minetest.conf or separate file that needs to be deleted to disable it |
| 20:34 |
Jordach |
or a conf with a single line reading disable_tutorial |
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| 20:35 |
Shara |
I'm still constantly annoyed by that silly password confirmation thing |
| 20:36 |
tumeninodes |
nostalgia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PearPC |
| 20:36 |
Shara |
which doesn't even do the job of helping people learn how to make accounts |
| 20:36 |
Shara |
and can't be disabled by any option |
| 20:36 |
Shara |
...this is probably what would happen if a tutorial was added as well, so no thanks :) |
| 20:36 |
tumeninodes |
Ooooo, can you make me an account with $20,000,000,000.00 please? |
| 20:37 |
Shara |
If you pay me twice that, I'm sure I can make you an account with that somewhere or other :) |
| 20:38 |
tumeninodes |
wait..., how does that work? |
| 20:38 |
Shara |
Magic |
| 20:38 |
tumeninodes |
I've had enough magic today, thank you :D |
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| 20:41 |
tumeninodes |
there should be a need to have an account, and password confirmation, for the tutorial on how to make an account ; ) |
| 20:41 |
Shara |
:D |
| 20:42 |
tumeninodes |
behold the beauty..., of 10.2 on PearPC (yes, I did this once) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vseh2Jshj4 |
| 20:48 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach: try quassel-core |
| 20:49 |
rubenwardy |
it's ZNC but way better |
| 20:49 |
rubenwardy |
Quassel > Hexchat |
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| 20:54 |
tumeninodes |
hexchat being funky today |
| 20:55 |
Fuchs |
freenode servers are currently, quote, a bit wobbly |
| 20:55 |
Fuchs |
so that might be it. |
| 20:55 |
tumeninodes |
or maybe it was just freenode |
| 20:55 |
tumeninodes |
ah, thank you Fuchs |
| 20:56 |
rubenwardy |
!tell Jordach https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6527 |
| 20:56 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around |
| 20:56 |
tumeninodes |
"a bit ... wobbly" best wording ever |
| 20:56 |
rubenwardy |
...and up to date |
| 20:56 |
rubenwardy |
hi all |
| 20:56 |
rubenwardy |
hey Fuchs!! |
| 20:56 |
Fuchs |
hi |
| 20:56 |
rubenwardy |
how's it going? |
| 20:56 |
Fuchs |
tired. You? |
| 20:56 |
tumeninodes |
hey rubenwardy |
| 20:56 |
rubenwardy |
same |
| 20:57 |
rubenwardy |
just got back from a BBQ |
| 20:57 |
rubenwardy |
heatwave here |
| 20:57 |
rubenwardy |
plus last coursework deadline in yesterday, so good timing |
| 20:57 |
Fixer |
how much heat? |
| 20:57 |
rubenwardy |
27 deg |
| 20:57 |
rubenwardy |
not the hotest |
| 20:57 |
rubenwardy |
but hot for this time of year |
| 20:57 |
Fuchs |
that's decently hot for the island |
| 20:58 |
Shara |
Hi Fuchs :) |
| 20:58 |
Fuchs |
yes, hello! |
| 20:59 |
Shara |
sadly I have been studying at the screen all day... no chance to enjoy the heat |
| 20:59 |
Fuchs |
no balcony or similar? |
| 20:59 |
rubenwardy |
:'( |
| 20:59 |
Fuchs |
also: exams ahead? |
| 20:59 |
rubenwardy |
yes unfortunatley |
| 20:59 |
Shara |
Balcony, no... Exams, yes. |
| 20:59 |
rubenwardy |
only 2 as most of the work this term has been coursework |
| 21:00 |
rubenwardy |
because of module choices |
| 21:00 |
Fuchs |
good luck then, to both of you |
| 21:00 |
tumeninodes |
Everyone with exams should get a free balcony |
| 21:00 |
Shara |
tumeninodes: feel free to come and build one for me then :) |
| 21:00 |
tumeninodes |
sure, as soon as I am done sitting on mine sipping some lemonade |
| 21:01 |
tumeninodes |
kidding. I don;t really have any lemonade |
| 21:02 |
Shara |
Now I want that as well. |
| 21:02 |
tumeninodes |
:D |
| 21:03 |
tumeninodes |
if lemonade is made with lemons..., what is gatorade made with? 0_o |
| 21:07 |
tumeninodes |
off to find some lemons. will be back when freenode is a bit less "wobbly" :) |
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| 21:12 |
rubenwardy |
wtf |
| 21:12 |
rubenwardy |
why did manjaro come with ms-office-online |
| 21:12 |
sfan5 |
your fault for not installing arch |
| 21:13 |
rubenwardy |
I didn't notice it after checking all the packages on initial install |
| 21:13 |
rubenwardy |
maybe added later |
| 21:13 |
rubenwardy |
or just missed |
| 21:14 |
sofar |
inb4 clearlinux |
| 21:15 |
rubenwardy |
I don't see the point of using arch anyway |
| 21:16 |
rubenwardy |
there's easier ways to get rolling release software and customisability |
| 21:21 |
sfan5 |
you are using arch but don't get the point of using it#? |
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| 22:02 |
rubenwardy |
oooh https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7253/checks |
| 22:02 |
rubenwardy |
this could help with the code style problem |
| 22:02 |
rubenwardy |
by showing issues as part of hte github PR |
| 22:02 |
rubenwardy |
rather than a link to a CI test |
| 22:11 |
rdococ |
My constructed language's phonology and syllable structure is getting more and more ridiculous while remaining fairly pronounceable. "chnshc". "ch" is the "h" in "hue", "c" is the "q" in "queue", and the rest is the same as English. |
| 22:14 |
sofar |
http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/twain.htm |
| 22:18 |
Fixer |
hub intensifies |
| 22:19 |
xerox123_ |
sofar, http://i.imgur.com/IDwJ4F7.gifv |
| 22:20 |
xerox123_ |
Crap, wrong link |
| 22:20 |
xerox123_ |
Correct link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/7hjkl2/the_european_commission_has_just_announced_an/ |
| 22:21 |
xerox123_ |
First link is still semi-interesting |
| 22:21 |
rdococ |
sofar: I disagree with replacing consonantal "y" with "i" |
| 22:22 |
sofar |
seems like a troll version of Mark Twain's writing, tbh |
| 22:23 |
sofar |
so, whoever did that is a piece of brexit |
| 22:23 |
Fixer |
i've seen that quote very looong ago |
| 22:24 |
Fixer |
kum tru |
| 22:24 |
rdococ |
"wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld." |
| 22:24 |
sofar |
I think it took me 5 minutes to deciper that last sentence when I first saw it |
| 22:26 |
rdococ |
My brain broke |
| 22:26 |
Fixer |
some german words are insanely long |
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| 22:28 |
rdococ |
"chpyfklrknp" <- Is this even pronounceable? "ch" in this case is the "h" in "hue", "y" is the consonant/semi-vowel in "you" and "r" is the "ch" in "loch" but only in certain dialects |
| 22:28 |
rdococ |
Might remove the "r" from that |
| 22:30 |
rdococ |
"ryoltshycnfk" is a real monstrosity - roughly pronounced "kh-yolt-sh-kyn-fk" |
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* sofar |
nods in agreement but has no clue |
| 22:31 |
rdococ |
sofar: Generating words for my constructed language |
| 22:32 |
* sofar |
nods in agreement but has no clue, nor any motivation |
| 22:32 |
rdococ |
sofar: Unicorns fart rainbows |
| 22:32 |
sofar |
if you spend any time interacting with me, you know how much unicorn fart rainbows motivate me |
| 22:33 |
rdococ |
None, I'm guessing. |
| 22:33 |
rdococ |
How about money? Does that motivate you? :P |
| 22:33 |
sofar |
meh, a little |
| 22:34 |
sofar |
enough to get off the couch once in a while |
| 22:34 |
rdococ |
...are you okay? |
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* Fixer |
farts on everyone |
| 22:34 |
rdococ |
^ Gotta motivate you to clear that awful smell |
| 22:35 |
* Fixer |
while retroexploring some very old minecraft worlds |
| 22:35 |
* sofar |
checks self |
| 22:35 |
sofar |
all systems appear to operate nominally |
| 22:35 |
rdococ |
Didn't Notch once say that he was planning to release YKW as open-source at some point? |
| 22:35 |
rdococ |
It'd be better if it was open-source from the beginning, but having it not only closed-source but in the hands of Microsoft is pretty bad. |
| 22:35 |
BillyS |
When he dies, maybe |
| 22:36 |
rdococ |
You mean when Microsoft dies. Notch himself doesn't really own it anymore. |
| 22:36 |
BillyS |
By then, Microsoft will have obfusticated it to the point that it is not longer readable |
| 22:36 |
BillyS |
ah |
| 22:37 |
rdococ |
The more Microsoft alienates even a semi-small portion of its fanbase, the more people will look for good alternatives |
| 22:38 |
rdococ |
So I'm hoping, as the saying goes, that the cloud that is Microsoft absorbing YKW into its poisonous self has a silver lining after all. |
| 22:39 |
rdococ |
That is, when the engine gets a name that doesn't instantly make people (A) think that this engine is a rip off of YKW, and/or (B) associate MT with MTG, and think that MTG is all that MT is capable of |
| 22:40 |
rdococ |
Renaming and adding a few more official games will hopefully help with that. |
| 22:40 |
Fixer |
oh boy |
| 22:40 |
Fixer |
just develop MTE/MTG as much as you can |
| 22:41 |
Fixer |
minecraft by this time is insanely complex, you can be smarter |
| 22:41 |
rdococ |
I don't understand what you're trying to say. I don't want to touch whatever lurks in YKW's source code at the moment. |
| 22:42 |
rdococ |
Unless you mean to suggest that people will keep playing YKW due to its enjoyability despite the fact that Microsoft owns it now, which does seem to be happening. |
| 22:42 |
rdococ |
I'm surprised to see how few people left because of it, actually. |
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| 22:43 |
Fixer |
do not lurk in YKW code |
| 22:45 |
Fixer |
people play it due to enjoyability |
| 22:46 |
Fixer |
there is also cracked version available, mc has no monopoly over mc java pretty much |
| 22:46 |
Fixer |
"cracked" |
| 22:46 |
Fixer |
you can just disable key checking and everyone can play |
| 22:46 |
Fixer |
ken plei |
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| 23:03 |
rubenwardy |
let's play spot the error |
| 23:03 |
rubenwardy |
for (size_t i = 0; package.screenshots.size(); ++i) { |
| 23:06 |
rdococ |
// I feel like there's two errors, one obvious one and one less obvious one |
| 23:07 |
rubenwardy |
heh |
| 23:07 |
rubenwardy |
is there's a less obvious one, I haven't seen it |
| 23:07 |
rdococ |
for (size_t i = 0; i < package.screenshots.size(); ++i) { // Well, I fixed the obvious error at least |
| 23:07 |
rdococ |
/ Wait, I usually see 'i++' in place of '++i' there, but would that make a difference, since the value that returns isn't used anywhere? |
| 23:08 |
rdococ |
s/\//\/\// |
| 23:08 |
rubenwardy |
++i is supposedly better than i++ |
| 23:08 |
sofar |
if your compiler sucks |
| 23:08 |
rubenwardy |
but with any modern compiler there won't be a difference |
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| 23:08 |
rdococ |
Ah. |
| 23:08 |
rubenwardy |
but the MT code style says to use ++i unfortunately |
| 23:09 |
rdococ |
Wait, you just said ++i is supposedly better... do you mean i++ is better? |
| 23:09 |
rubenwardy |
no ++i |
| 23:09 |
rubenwardy |
but |
| 23:09 |
rubenwardy |
<rubenwardy> but with any modern compiler there won't be a difference |
| 23:09 |
sofar |
without optimization, ++i is better |
| 23:10 |
rdococ |
If ++i is better if your compiler sucks, and there is no difference otherwise, I don't see the problem with using ++i...? |
| 23:10 |
sofar |
there is no problem with using ++i |
| 23:13 |
sofar |
nor is there a problem with using i++ |
| 23:13 |
rdococ |
> <rubenwardy> but the MT code style says to use ++i unfortunately |
| 23:13 |
rdococ |
Then why would it be unfortunate? |
| 23:13 |
rubenwardy |
it's less clear for no reason at all |
| 23:14 |
sofar |
most people prefer to use i++ over ++i everywhere for consistency |
| 23:14 |
rdococ |
Ah. Fair enough. |
| 23:14 |
sofar |
and because using ++i could lead to hard to spot errors |
| 23:14 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: https://pastebin.com/raw/mS3P0Y98 when pressed left arrow in content browser |
| 23:15 |
sofar |
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24853/what-is-the-difference-between-i-and-i?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa |
| 23:17 |
Fixer |
hate this utm_medium garbage |
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| 23:43 |
rubenwardy |
https://i.rubenwardy.com/Q7w8P.png |
| 23:43 |
rubenwardy |
Shara ^ |
| 23:46 |
Shara |
rubenwardy: uhh.. it does? |
| 23:46 |
rubenwardy |
f this |
| 23:46 |
rubenwardy |
1 sec |
| 23:47 |
rdococ |
How is it so warm here? |
| 23:48 |
rubenwardy |
it's so warm |
| 23:48 |
rdococ |
I'm sweating... going to check the heating |
| 23:49 |
Shara |
Fussel... that sounds like practically every day on any server to me :P |
| 23:49 |
rubenwardy |
wait |
| 23:49 |
rubenwardy |
the feature already exists |
| 23:50 |
rubenwardy |
I was just added a feature to autoname the world if the input is blank |
| 23:51 |
rubenwardy |
turns out that's been done already |
| 23:51 |
Shara |
lol |
| 23:51 |
Shara |
yea, quite some time back :P |
| 23:52 |
Shara |
though it makes such annoying names that I always type something even for test worlds :D |
| 23:55 |
rdococ |
If only I had a thermometer... |
| 23:56 |
rdococ |
Hm, typed my location with the word "weather" into DDG, was temporarily frightened when I saw '83Ëš', then I realized that it misinterpreted my location for some place in Missouri. |
| 23:58 |
rdococ |
Dark Sky, the weather website DDG gets its information from, says 15 C for my area at the moment. Utter bull. |
| 23:58 |
IhrFussel |
Shara, that's the first time it happened to me...must've been lucky |
| 23:59 |
Shara |
Playsers just don't really suprise me anymore |
