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Calinou: I'm here now |
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KaadmY |
Also have you heard of PMs :P |
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rdococ |
hi hi hi hi |
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lisac |
hey rdococ |
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rdococ |
gtg |
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Megaf |
lol, according to Geekbench this is the fastest performing CPU in single core https://ark.intel.com/products/97527/Intel-Core-i3-7350K-Processor-4M-Cache-4_20-GHz |
09:55 |
Megaf |
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu?dir=desc&sort=score |
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11:45 |
Calinou |
hi :) |
11:45 |
Calinou |
KaadmY: no, I forgot :P anyway I was asleep at 3AM (UTC+2) :P |
11:45 |
Calinou |
also, for EU citizens mostly (but non-EU citizens can also join in): https://publiccode.eu/openletter/ |
11:49 |
Raven262 |
Hi Calinou. |
11:49 |
Calinou |
hi :) |
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12:38 |
twoelk |
is anybody updating his git clones on windows with a batch file? |
13:10 |
Aerozoic |
Hmm... Why doesn't minetest have a wikipedia page? It seems to be the only FOSS that doesn't: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_video_games |
13:11 |
twoelk |
the minetest page launches at wikipedia have been deleted multiple times |
13:12 |
twoelk |
it seems as if nobody connected with mt is allowed to write such an article |
13:12 |
Fixer |
Aerozoic: stigma against minetest due to minecraft |
13:13 |
Aerozoic |
wtf |
13:13 |
twoelk |
nope just no mentioning in any media that is not done by minetest people |
13:14 |
twoelk |
we would need coverage by someone who is not a dev, modder or forum writer |
13:15 |
twoelk |
so someone has to report about minetest without being part of the community |
13:15 |
Aerozoic |
That doesn't make sense. That eliminates anybody familiar with it. |
13:16 |
Aerozoic |
How could any wiki ever get written? |
13:16 |
Aerozoic |
For any game? |
13:17 |
twoelk |
the wiki is not supposed to be written by people who know something first hand but rather by people who quote several different sources that might have first hand knowledge |
13:18 |
Aerozoic |
So all attempts have been deleted due to lack of sources? |
13:18 |
twoelk |
yeah - hardly any outside sources exist |
13:19 |
Aerozoic |
hmm, i'm gonna look at the sources for all those other games. |
13:20 |
twoelk |
don't go and point out the others that got smuggled in, leave them in for the use of all :-D |
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13:21 |
twoelk |
rather make your local newspaper aware of minetest |
13:22 |
Aerozoic |
XD Nah, i just find this interesting. |
13:24 |
twoelk |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEue4-iNGtA and http://www.ocsmag.com/2016/04/04/mining-for-education/#5 are the only relative unrelated and usefull links I remember |
13:25 |
twoelk |
there are other things such as teacher-user groups but they are not really that public |
13:29 |
Fixer |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EUP6k2EGyQ |
13:31 |
Aerozoic |
I was mainly just curious, i won't actually be doing anything about it. |
13:32 |
twoelk |
:-( |
13:33 |
Aerozoic |
It seems there are lots of games with few resources that have a wiki page so it makes me think there is some political BS going on. |
13:36 |
twoelk |
well it is on wikipedia https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest it just kept getting deleted in the english version :-P |
13:37 |
Aerozoic |
lol |
13:37 |
Aerozoic |
very interesting! |
13:38 |
Fixer |
yeah, thats right, thats wikipedia for you |
13:38 |
srifqi |
Indonesian version even has "reviewed" status. https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest |
13:41 |
twoelk |
VanessaE for example did some writting for the english version and so the criticism it might be self promoting is understandable as she was very much involved at the time and still is an important server owner |
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srifqi |
That version is where the Indonesian version based. .-. |
13:46 |
srifqi |
or rubenwardy's? I forget which one. |
13:47 |
celeron55 |
Calinou: seems like a good campaign |
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Fixer |
*,....,* |
14:12 |
twoelk |
here's the old discussion on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest, cant find the last version |
14:13 |
srifqi |
You can't because it has been deleted. .-. |
14:16 |
twoelk |
well there are sites that save deleted articles |
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Aerozoic |
Why does the MT readme have users installing the dev version instead of the stable version? |
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celeron55 |
Aerozoic: probably because it was written before a stable version existed :P |
15:05 |
celeron55 |
whether that should be the case, dunno |
15:05 |
celeron55 |
github doesn't give an option to have different readmes for different branches or tags |
15:05 |
celeron55 |
so it will be wrong no matter what it says |
15:06 |
celeron55 |
i guess a different readme could be maintained on the stable branch if someone is crazy enough to want to do that |
15:07 |
celeron55 |
maybe it should list the available version options though |
15:09 |
celeron55 |
that has the issue that technically there's nothing to point to if you want the latest stable version with a single link; the stable branch HEAD isn't stable, only the tags in there are |
15:12 |
Calinou |
<twoelk> we would need coverage by someone who is not a dev, modder or forum writer |
15:12 |
Calinou |
time to poke Jim Sterling, Vsauce and PewDiePie I guess |
15:12 |
* Calinou |
hides |
15:12 |
Calinou |
also, as time passes, it becomes harder and harder to "have" a page on Wikipedia |
15:12 |
Aerozoic |
Is a forum writer anyone who has ever posted on the forum? |
15:12 |
Calinou |
(since there are new ones every day) |
15:13 |
Calinou |
well, Wikipedia would rather have you be a complete outsider, by the looks of it |
15:13 |
Calinou |
which is sad, because it's the perfect way to write an article in the most clueless way possible |
15:13 |
Aerozoic |
yup |
15:13 |
Calinou |
srifqi: non-English Wikipedias tend to be more chill with the issue |
15:14 |
Calinou |
English Wikipedia is de_dust2 with 64 players, other wikis are that unpopular map with 4 players |
15:14 |
* Calinou |
hides again |
15:15 |
srifqi |
Calinou, I agree on that. |
15:15 |
celeron55 |
english wikipedia basically wants that some big money media has written about a subject before it's allowed there, except if you were early and sneaky enough |
15:25 |
benrob0329 |
haven't we had several well known people at least mention Minetest? |
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srifqi |
benrob0329, who? |
15:29 |
benrob0329 |
Idr, that's why I asked |
15:35 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: time for a Trump tweet? ;) |
15:35 |
benrob0329 |
Calinou: don't have a Twitter account |
15:36 |
Jordach |
must be 100% certified fresh hipster grade foss software grown by millennials in starbucks |
15:36 |
Jordach |
with an LLC startup.io |
15:39 |
* Jordach |
goes back to programming the LEDs on Jordach's keyboard |
15:59 |
Fixer |
Calinou: de_dust...***** Eh, if you look pirated CS 1.6 serverlist - more than half of anything is de_dust related |
16:13 |
benrob0329 |
Why is it so popular? |
16:23 |
benrob0329 |
Calinou: but then again, Wikipedia would probably say that he is "Not Our President" |
16:23 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: every game has its overly popular map |
16:24 |
benrob0329 |
True |
16:38 |
celeron55 |
i did some writing for fun, not sure what to do with it https://gist.github.com/celeron55/665de564a2e6535659363e205153d77d |
16:41 |
twoelk |
put it on a flyer and through them at the next LinuxDays or gamescon |
16:41 |
celeron55 |
do anything you like with it |
16:41 |
celeron55 |
CC0 |
16:41 |
twoelk |
or actually hand them out to teachers |
16:43 |
rdococ |
yey |
16:45 |
celeron55 |
i don't think most teachers appreciate such a half-product as MT is; they don't have time for it |
16:48 |
twoelk |
true - but only sometimes |
16:49 |
twoelk |
but thinking of it a little one-page pdf for download on the homepage might be of interest |
16:49 |
celeron55 |
did you even read it :D |
16:50 |
twoelk |
the honking and farting manifest? |
17:27 |
Fixer |
celeron55: minetest game needs bigger push |
17:32 |
benrob0329 |
Specifically in the game direction :P |
17:32 |
celeron55 |
bigger push? |
17:32 |
Fixer |
celeron55: kick in the window or smth |
17:33 |
celeron55 |
wait what |
17:33 |
Fixer |
celeron55: engine itself is good, but mtg is not following its success |
17:33 |
celeron55 |
i think i'll spam this press release to every media i can find, for fun |
17:33 |
benrob0329 |
Lol, I think he means that MTG needs a kick in the pants to get it going |
17:35 |
Fixer |
"French Company Plans To Heat Homes, Offices With AMD Ryzen Pro Processors" |
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17:38 |
celeron55 |
i need a ridiculous screenshot to go with this text |
17:38 |
celeron55 |
or a good one |
17:38 |
Fixer |
pepe and pedobear one |
17:38 |
celeron55 |
definitely not memes |
17:40 |
Fixer |
sï½ï½„ |
17:42 |
Fixer |
celeron55: and they like install minetest @ badly animated sams with nothing in hands |
17:43 |
benrob0329 |
celeron55: feel free to take anything from my cinematic videos |
17:43 |
Fixer |
cineï½ï½ï½”ic |
17:44 |
celeron55 |
Jordach: i'm going to steal a random screenshot from you probably |
17:44 |
celeron55 |
don't get mad |
17:44 |
celeron55 |
it's going to be used in a joke against minetest |
17:45 |
celeron55 |
just like everything i do |
17:45 |
Fixer |
ï½™ï½ï½•ã€€ï½ï½’e ï½ï½ï½‹ï½‰ï½Žï½‡ã€€ï½‰ï½” wï½ï½’se |
17:45 |
celeron55 |
i'm your PR guy, trust me i'm good |
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Fixer |
DPR guy |
17:52 |
Shara |
Hi everyone |
17:59 |
benrob0329 |
Hi Shara |
17:59 |
Shara |
Hi benrob0329 :) |
18:00 |
benrob0329 |
Whats up? |
18:01 |
Shara |
What isn't? :P |
18:01 |
Shara |
Crazy busy at the moment. |
18:01 |
benrob0329 |
That is life for you |
18:02 |
Jordach |
celeron55, don't use http[s]://jordach.net |
18:02 |
Jordach |
the server is now in deprecation |
18:03 |
Shara |
benrob0329: Anymore good videos lately? I want more good videos. |
18:07 |
benrob0329 |
Shara: I made a thing in blender the other day |
18:07 |
Shara |
Link? :D |
18:07 |
Shara |
Assuming there is something to see anyway |
18:07 |
Shara |
I'm still too scared of blender. |
18:08 |
benrob0329 |
https://youtu.be/p1lfQJz3WqE |
18:08 |
benrob0329 |
Its not bad once you get the basics |
18:09 |
Jordach |
git gud |
18:09 |
Jordach |
will be fixing things soonish |
18:10 |
Shara |
Tardis :) |
18:10 |
benrob0329 |
Ofc :D |
18:11 |
benrob0329 |
That face is a particle system, featuring 80,000 particles iirc |
18:13 |
* Jordach |
points jordach.net at the new dedicated server |
18:13 |
benrob0329 |
Most of the time was spent compositing, not rendering though |
18:23 |
celeron55 |
it's really difficult to find even any blogs that might care about my silly press release |
18:24 |
celeron55 |
this world is so boring, i guess that's why we're all here |
18:24 |
benrob0329 |
celeron55: post it to something like minds.com |
18:26 |
celeron55 |
i did post it in my blog and tweeted it; that's... 29 followers |
18:26 |
sofar |
hmm, I wonder if i can override irc commands from kaeza's irc mod to customize it (the func, essentially) |
18:26 |
garywhite |
what press release? |
18:27 |
celeron55 |
benrob0329: minds.com is like twitter but with long posts, right? |
18:28 |
benrob0329 |
celeron55: and videos and its open source |
18:28 |
Shara |
I customised quite a few IRC commands on my servers. |
18:28 |
Shara |
Nothing extreme, but still. |
18:28 |
benrob0329 |
So you would write a blog, then remind that blog onto your timeline |
18:29 |
celeron55 |
well i don't have any followers so nobody would see it |
18:29 |
celeron55 |
i just want people to see this and go on with life, not like begin actually doing anything! |
18:32 |
benrob0329 |
celeron55: your given some points when you join, you can boost the post with those points |
18:32 |
benrob0329 |
I have 2.5k points atm, 1 point per view |
18:33 |
benrob0329 |
(You get 50 every once in a while, which is where most of them come from ) |
18:36 |
celeron55 |
i do have an account there since like months ago |
18:36 |
celeron55 |
but my password is in my password manager that i don't have access to now 8) |
18:36 |
* celeron55 |
is proud of not knowing his passwords |
18:38 |
celeron55 |
or maybe i don't... hmm |
18:38 |
celeron55 |
it's a good question |
18:39 |
celeron55 |
oh i do |
18:39 |
celeron55 |
ok let's see |
18:39 |
celeron55 |
at least i can get rid of these points, that i'm sure about |
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19:00 |
celeron55 |
https://www.minds.com/blog/view/754774999667056642 |
19:01 |
celeron55 |
lol, this is like squeezing whipped cream on a sausage |
19:02 |
benrob0329 |
Wait what |
19:04 |
Fixer |
celeron55: have you seen auroras recently? |
19:05 |
shivajiva |
well done c55 :P |
19:05 |
benrob0329 |
celeron55: now remind and boost it :P |
19:15 |
rdococ |
hello fellow members of the species of homo sapiens. |
19:16 |
rdococ |
due to unforeseen circumstance, I am currently using Winders. |
19:16 |
rdococ |
wait, this channel probably has mode +c |
19:16 |
sofar |
celeron55: I like the fart noises |
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19:17 |
* rdococ |
farts |
19:17 |
rdococ |
oops |
19:21 |
celeron55 |
i think minetest.net should probably be just a blog written by me; the current one is way too serious |
19:22 |
celeron55 |
the only problem with that is that i'm way too lazy |
19:23 |
Fixer |
broccoli fart noises |
19:27 |
celeron55 |
Minetest in its entirety is just a joke and you all are the people that didn't get it |
19:27 |
celeron55 |
i'm so sorry |
19:29 |
shivajiva |
lol |
19:29 |
shivajiva |
you'd better be! |
19:30 |
garywhite |
mode may be +m$ rdococ |
19:30 |
rdococ |
+m$? |
19:30 |
rdococ |
no, it just seems to be +cmnt |
19:31 |
celeron55 |
ok, actually i'm not sorry; but it still is the greatest joke ever; it's absolutely glorious |
19:32 |
celeron55 |
and as such it must be continued |
19:32 |
Shara |
in even more glorious ways? |
19:33 |
celeron55 |
i really hope someone publishes my press release as-is; that would make my day |
19:33 |
celeron55 |
probably not going to happen though |
19:36 |
shivajiva |
I think you just assured it will appear somewhere |
19:41 |
benrob0329 |
totallynotashadyweb.site |
19:42 |
benrob0329 |
(don't actually click that link, I have no idea what it goes to) |
19:42 |
celeron55 |
totally not to a shady website, is my guess |
19:42 |
garywhite |
doesn't exist benrob, there is no .site domain |
19:43 |
benrob0329 |
Aww |
19:43 |
garywhite |
aw crap there is |
19:43 |
garywhite |
but that^ is not a real website |
19:43 |
benrob0329 |
Yay! |
19:44 |
benrob0329 |
Is the domain available? |
19:44 |
garywhite |
idk |
19:45 |
celeron55 |
it is, and it's on sale |
19:45 |
garywhite |
Too out of it to look...spent Mon & Tue trying to get through to ISP |
19:46 |
Fixer |
celeron55: biggest trï½ï½Œï½Œã€€ï½‰ï½Žã€€ï¼¯ï¼³ï¼³ã€€ï½ˆï½‰ï½“ï½”ï½ï½’ï½™ |
19:46 |
benrob0329 |
Hahaha |
19:46 |
benrob0329 |
I gotta get it, or someone does |
19:51 |
benrob0329 |
I got it |
19:52 |
benrob0329 |
I have a friend who does domain hosting, so I get it cheaper than godaddy :D |
19:52 |
Fixer |
godaddy is the worst name ever |
19:52 |
Fixer |
totally worst |
19:53 |
Fixer |
they smoked shit instead of weed. sad |
19:54 |
benrob0329 |
celeron55: expect that blog to be posted on a totally not super shady website |
19:59 |
celeron55 |
don' |
19:59 |
celeron55 |
don't use godaddy, ever |
19:59 |
celeron55 |
don't use any domain seller that comes up in first search results |
20:00 |
benrob0329 |
I don't |
20:00 |
celeron55 |
i use name.com, it's been quite fine |
20:02 |
celeron55 |
or, i mean, i can't think of anything to complain about |
20:04 |
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20:06 |
Calinou |
godaddy is indeed not a good choice |
20:06 |
Calinou |
if your son yells "Go Daddy!" do you, he also is not a good choice either |
20:06 |
* Calinou |
hides |
20:06 |
Calinou |
to you* |
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20:24 |
Fixer |
"My daddy says fuck your daddy" (c) |
20:32 |
CWz |
yey firefox added more icons to the address bar YAY |
20:37 |
Jordach |
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
20:37 |
Jordach |
>apache2 |
20:37 |
Jordach |
>two domains |
20:37 |
Jordach |
>certbot |
20:38 |
Jordach |
>nextcloud and pomf fighting for first place |
20:38 |
Jordach |
both addresses must have pomf at the site root, and nextcloud at /nextcloud/ |
20:39 |
sfan5 |
>not using nginx |
20:39 |
celeron55 |
i wonder what would be too big a joke |
20:39 |
celeron55 |
like, what if windows was a joke |
20:39 |
Jordach |
mv pomf.conf 0pomf.conf |
20:39 |
Jordach |
>restarts apache |
20:39 |
Jordach |
>shit works |
20:39 |
celeron55 |
all the microsoft investors and executives think it's funny |
20:39 |
celeron55 |
and just go on and almost die laughing in meetings |
20:39 |
Jordach |
why does apache sort by fucking name and not by site-enabled date |
20:41 |
celeron55 |
name is a whole lot more controllable |
20:41 |
celeron55 |
that's what udev does too; you just add zeroes to the begin if you want to be first |
20:41 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/nRZoXdu.png |
20:42 |
Jordach |
my word of the day rhymes with punt |
20:42 |
paramat |
celeron55 i made a MT car for you https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6363#issuecomment-329066307 'Car55' it has the finnish flag on the roof. from my mod 'mesecar' |
20:42 |
Jordach |
>nissan cube |
20:42 |
Jordach |
>not a dorito spinner mazda |
20:44 |
paramat |
the mod also has a 'nyancart', 'oerkka' and a 'mesecar' |
20:45 |
paramat |
screenshot https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7967 |
20:50 |
benrob0329 |
MTG needs more humor |
20:51 |
paramat |
they're crafted using a mese battery, run on 'mesecon' power i guess |
20:52 |
Jordach |
celeron55, how to fix apache2 |
20:52 |
Jordach |
blob:https://imgur.com/df294206-3feb-4c8f-b901-403fdbfc327c |
20:52 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/Dynx9IM.png |
20:55 |
Jordach |
i forgot mv for a moment |
20:58 |
nerzhul |
rename by copy, LOL |
20:58 |
nerzhul |
i hope your file is not 100GB of data :p |
20:58 |
Jordach |
simple apache conf file |
20:58 |
Jordach |
certbot became literally autistic |
20:58 |
nerzhul |
certbot is for LE ? |
20:58 |
celeron55 |
if you use cp -l, it'll be fast 8) |
20:58 |
Jordach |
yep |
20:59 |
nerzhul |
i use acme-client on FreeBSD it works like a charm, my nginx configuration is reloaded and my dovecot/postfix configuration too, i have nothing to do, BSD powa :p |
20:59 |
nerzhul |
celeron55, hardlink crap :p |
20:59 |
nerzhul |
but faster |
21:00 |
celeron55 |
mv is basically cp -l and rm |
21:00 |
nerzhul |
you can also do ln -s :p |
21:00 |
nerzhul |
cat file > file2 && rm -f file |
21:00 |
nerzhul |
:p |
21:02 |
nerzhul |
rsync -avP file file2 |
21:12 |
benrob0329 |
nerzhul: doesn't actually copy the data, just changes the nodes in the index afaik |
21:13 |
benrob0329 |
Wait, was thinking of mv |
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21:14 |
Fixer |
rename with copy and delete? |
21:14 |
benrob0329 |
It doesn't need to actually move the data, just rename the path |
21:14 |
benrob0329 |
So what's the difference? |
21:15 |
Fixer |
/music plays |
21:17 |
Jordach |
*chords to mac plus starts playing* |
21:18 |
benrob0329 |
Linux: OSS doesn't do everything we want, so let's create a brand new sound system embedded in the kernel incompatible with everyone else that still has many of the same issues the old on has, and then make another layer on top of that because we wont just patch the base system to do what we want. |
21:19 |
benrob0329 |
FreeBSD: Lets just add the features we want |
21:19 |
Jordach |
Linux's turn of desktop of the year: ETA HL3 |
21:20 |
benrob0329 |
There are reasons i'd move to FreeBSD in a heartbeat if drivers allowed it |
21:22 |
benrob0329 |
If Vega support rolls out though... |
21:23 |
benrob0329 |
"Mom! Get your credit card!" |
21:24 |
celeron55 |
free software was created because of politics, but politics is what ruins free software |
21:24 |
celeron55 |
it's weird |
21:26 |
celeron55 |
i guess it's a matter of not being dumb vs. being dumb |
21:27 |
nerzhul |
benrob0329, same for me, i talked with bapt this evening about that (he is french and i meet him IRL) |
21:27 |
nerzhul |
BSD are not for hype but working good |
21:27 |
benrob0329 |
Cool |
21:27 |
benrob0329 |
I was just told that 12-RELEASE will have Vega Support |
21:29 |
nerzhul |
yes i see i'm on the chan, but he is not a core team member we will see, 11.1 is recent, don't hope for 12 before a 11.2 at least :) |
21:29 |
benrob0329 |
True |
21:31 |
benrob0329 |
But idc of I have to run a Linux VM to play steam Games, FreeBSD is a really nice OS as far as Unixes go |
21:37 |
Fixer |
*,,,,,,* |
21:38 |
Fixer |
buy amd ryzen and two GPUs @ install linux @ install windows in KVM with PCI-passthrough @ die as elite monk |
21:42 |
Jordach |
https://i.redd.it/la5ueclqaklz.png |
21:42 |
Fixer |
Jordach: bestest |
21:51 |
Fixer |
celeron55: free as in freedom |
22:04 |
shivajiva |
free as in free beer maybe |
22:06 |
celeron55 |
free as in freely give your personal information to drug and porn companies and the NWO |
22:06 |
celeron55 |
wait, what are we talking about? |
22:06 |
celeron55 |
8) |
22:06 |
shivajiva |
:O |
22:07 |
shivajiva |
beer ofc |
22:07 |
Fixer |
FREEDOM |
22:07 |
celeron55 |
beerdom |
22:07 |
shivajiva |
or doughnuts |
22:07 |
Shara |
I'll take the doughnuts |
22:08 |
shivajiva |
haha |
22:08 |
shivajiva |
that came from nowhere :P |
22:08 |
Shara |
I sense when there are doughnuts |
22:09 |
celeron55 |
i'll take the NWO; just give me a space station with lasers |
22:09 |
shivajiva |
would that be for Nibiru's arrival |
22:11 |
celeron55 |
let multiple uses |
22:11 |
celeron55 |
let's say, multiple uses* |
22:11 |
celeron55 |
(this keyboard hates me) |
22:16 |
celeron55 |
i wonder, if i made/led a game for minetest, if anyone would want to bundle it with the engine |
22:16 |
paramat |
probably |
22:16 |
celeron55 |
probably most packagers have a very different taste than i do |
22:17 |
paramat |
we really need new subgames |
22:17 |
celeron55 |
really the only way i would enjoy it would be if it would be packaged no matter what i put in it |
22:18 |
celeron55 |
any oversight by others and the artist in me dies |
22:18 |
paramat |
heh i'd actually be ok with that, we don't lose anything however weird or silly it is |
22:21 |
paramat |
(i like weird or silly) |
22:21 |
Shara |
I like weird/silly if it's also good :) |
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22:22 |
benrob0329 |
Seeing as how Minetest was made as a joke, nothing else really fits :D |
22:26 |
paramat |
anyway let me know if you need a new specialised mapgen for it |
22:36 |
sfan5 |
celeron55: do you happen to know the difference between the SAO attrs m_removed and m_pending_deactivation? |
22:37 |
sfan5 |
the comments in serverobject.h both describe the same procedure |
22:46 |
sfan5 |
code sets m_pending_deactivation = false on newly created SAOs while false is the default especially if you create new ones |
22:46 |
sfan5 |
??? |
22:46 |
sfan5 |
it all makes no sense |
22:57 |
celeron55 |
sfan5: m_removed means the object will be removed when possible (i.e. when clients know about the removal), m_pending_deactivation means the object will be deactivated (i.e. turned to a static object for storage) after it has been removed from the clients |
22:57 |
celeron55 |
from the client's perspective, both look the same |
22:58 |
sfan5 |
hm |
22:58 |
celeron55 |
from the server's perspective, a deactivated one is saved unlike a removed one which is put to /dev/null |
22:58 |
sfan5 |
the comments certainly don't do a good job of explaining that distinction |
22:59 |
celeron55 |
feel free to improve i guess |
23:05 |
sfan5 |
the object related code in serverenvironment.cpp has way too many almost identical code segments that do the same thing in different contexts |
23:06 |
sfan5 |
e.g. clearObjects() has code to delete static data from a block and so does removeRemovedObjects() |
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