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benrob0329 |
o/ Grandolf, halt_ |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 08:02 |
* tenplus1 |
noms pancakes |
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tenplus1 |
hi nrz |
| 08:49 |
Shara |
Morning all |
| 08:49 |
tenplus1 |
hi Shara :) |
| 08:50 |
Shara |
Hi ten, how goes? |
| 08:50 |
tenplus1 |
not bad... *noms pancakes* |
| 08:51 |
Shara |
share please! |
| 08:51 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe... |
| 08:51 |
* tenplus1 |
always shares |
| 08:53 |
tenplus1 |
watching a good video on youtube called "The REAL Truth About Religion and it's Origins"... it's really fascinating :)))) |
| 08:55 |
tenplus1 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 |
| 08:56 |
Shara |
:P |
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tenplus1 |
wb nrz... isp problems ? |
| 09:01 |
nerzhul |
no, restarted my session due to clipboard problem after an update |
| 09:01 |
tenplus1 |
*shakes fist at clipboard* :P |
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| 09:23 |
shivajiva |
morning :) |
| 09:24 |
tenplus1 |
hi shiva |
| 09:24 |
shivajiva |
Hi ten |
| 09:24 |
tenplus1 |
how's things ? |
| 09:25 |
shivajiva |
good thanks, I see I have reading to do :P |
| 09:26 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe... about to update Xanadu with latest knockback function |
| 09:34 |
nerzhul |
tenplus1, you mean the knockback PR ? |
| 09:35 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, it detects which function to use depending on singleplayer |
| 09:35 |
tenplus1 |
entity attachment works better in singleplayer, moveto slide in multiplayer |
| 09:38 |
Shara |
you'll probably get disapprovals just for behaviour being different between single/multiplayer |
| 09:38 |
tenplus1 |
bring it on!!!!! :P |
| 09:40 |
nerzhul |
tenplus1, if you mean the Dumbeldor Knockbar PR it needs client side support ,else, no interest |
| 09:40 |
tenplus1 |
noo, not that one... the one I added to playerplus |
| 09:41 |
tenplus1 |
it detects if in singleplayer... if so then it'll attach player to entity, calculate knockback and move entity and then detach... works well when no-one can see you sliding in |
| 09:41 |
tenplus1 |
if on server it moves entity only and uses moveto so the lag causes player to slide into position which looks same :) but no slide bug from 0,0,0 |
| 09:41 |
tenplus1 |
shiva helped me with this one |
| 09:46 |
tenplus1 |
k, the new function looks better when you hit someone else and see them sliding around... but... when someone hits you it feels like a quick shudder into position |
| 09:46 |
tenplus1 |
I hope the 0,0,0 detatch bug gets sorted soon |
| 09:49 |
nerzhul |
tenplus1, it's hacky, it's why the Dumbeldor pr should be finished and merged, as i say everytime MT is modular, but some hacky things should be cut in favor of properly specialized behaviour (respecially on physics :p) |
| 09:50 |
tenplus1 |
I hope dumble's pull gets finished and accepted...we really need proper knockback in game |
| 10:02 |
shivajiva |
^ +1 |
| 10:03 |
tenplus1 |
even using player:moveto(newpos, true) hplayer jerks into position... pah! |
| 10:27 |
shivajiva |
until we understand where and why the reset back to 0,0,0 occurs on a remote server / client configuration the bug will continue to exist |
| 10:28 |
tenplus1 |
if only they wuld add the ability to player:set_velocity() |
| 10:30 |
shivajiva |
I guess I need to search for all references to 0,0,0 to understand what's going on |
| 10:30 |
tenplus1 |
a challenge awaits! |
| 10:32 |
shivajiva |
we know it's not in the detach now that's fixed so it's picked up in the delay somewhere else |
| 10:33 |
tenplus1 |
hrm |
| 10:34 |
shivajiva |
you don't agree? |
| 10:34 |
tenplus1 |
trying to think where it could be |
| 10:35 |
tenplus1 |
what's involved in entity attach.detatch |
| 10:35 |
nerzhul |
i don't agree |
| 10:35 |
nerzhul |
(i don't read what you said :p) |
| 10:36 |
shivajiva |
I think it's outside of that process as I tinkered with attach and detach |
| 10:36 |
shivajiva |
Nerzhul: lol thanks |
| 10:42 |
shivajiva |
heh 46 files containing 0,0,0 |
| 10:42 |
shivajiva |
I need a more realistic search term I think :) |
| 10:43 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 10:44 |
shivajiva |
who's the expert dev on player code? |
| 10:45 |
nerzhul |
it's rdococ |
| 10:46 |
shivajiva |
answers like 'you after you looked at the 46 files' are not welcomed XD |
| 10:47 |
shivajiva |
thanks I'll have a chat with them :) |
| 10:52 |
Shara |
nerzhul: rdococ is a dev? |
| 10:56 |
tenplus1 |
wasnt docOc one of the spiderman villans ? :P |
| 10:57 |
Shara |
Just curious because he's been a player on my server for well over a year, but these days mostly just meows at people and things. :) |
| 10:57 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 10:57 |
Shara |
He talked about working on mods, but never saw anything |
| 10:57 |
Shara |
which is a pity, because some of it sounded interesting |
| 10:58 |
* Shara |
will just go digging |
| 10:58 |
tenplus1 |
any good ideas? |
| 10:59 |
Shara |
He mentioned things about space mods I think |
| 10:59 |
tenplus1 |
ooh |
| 10:59 |
Shara |
found him on github, but nothing much there |
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tenplus1 |
hi fixer |
| 11:01 |
Shara |
hi Fixer |
| 11:02 |
Zeno` |
https://github.com/orgs/minetest/people |
| 11:03 |
Shara |
Hi Zeno` |
| 11:04 |
Zeno` |
hi :) |
| 11:04 |
shivajiva |
hi Zeno o/ |
| 11:04 |
tenplus1 |
hi Zeno |
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tenplus1 |
hi Da |
| 11:28 |
tenplus1 |
hi Darcidride |
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Darcidride |
Hi everybody |
| 11:41 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 11:42 |
tenplus1 |
hi cal |
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Fixer |
hi |
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| 12:06 |
Jordach |
hi tenplus1 |
| 12:07 |
Jordach |
:^) |
| 12:07 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach :P |
| 12:09 |
tenplus1 |
been watching "American Gods" tv show... it pretty good :D |
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tenplus1 |
hi RobbieF |
| 12:21 |
Shara |
Hi RobbieF |
| 12:26 |
Jordach |
*autistic screeching* |
| 12:26 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 12:26 |
Jordach |
why does firefox do that but chrome can't |
| 12:27 |
tenplus1 |
do what ? |
| 12:27 |
Jordach |
restore tabs in a paranoid mode |
| 12:30 |
RobbieF |
Hi TenPlus1, Shara, and all. |
| 12:30 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 12:30 |
RobbieF |
All well? |
| 12:31 |
Shara |
Pretty good thanks :) |
| 12:31 |
shivajiva |
Hi RobbieF, yea good and you? |
| 12:31 |
tenplus1 |
doing okies, you ? |
| 12:31 |
RobbieF |
Hi shivajiva. Very well thanks. |
| 12:31 |
RobbieF |
Get the new van on Friday! |
| 12:31 |
tenplus1 |
kewl |
| 12:31 |
Shara |
:) |
| 12:32 |
tenplus1 |
we both got something to looko forward to on friday :D |
| 12:32 |
RobbieF |
there's a picture of it on episode 503 - just uploading it now |
| 12:32 |
RobbieF |
what's friday for you ten? |
| 12:32 |
tenplus1 |
memory upgrade arrives for net-top... will have a whopping 4gb in total :PPP |
| 12:34 |
* Jordach |
feels like building tenplus1 a real ITX build |
| 12:34 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe, am happy with my wee net-top :P |
| 12:35 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, it can then actually run Minetest |
| 12:35 |
shivajiva |
heh snappy, hope it yields the expected result for you ten |
| 12:35 |
tenplus1 |
I can run minetest :) works well, andlets me feel any lagg which I need |
| 12:36 |
Jordach |
then again my tower is a workstation |
| 12:36 |
tenplus1 |
http://cdn.liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/acer-3700.jpg .. https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/02/uk-electronics/product_content/Acer/R3700_feat_L.jpg |
| 12:38 |
tenplus1 |
beb |
| 12:38 |
tenplus1 |
er... brb ;P |
| 12:40 |
RobbieF |
oh nice tenplus1! That's twice your RAM! |
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tenplus1 |
hi NathanS21 |
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NathanS21 |
hi tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
hi lumidify |
| 13:01 |
lumidify |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 13:01 |
lumidify |
Did you get tired of the capitals? |
| 13:02 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, am out in the country today |
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tenplus1 |
hi octacian |
| 13:31 |
Jordach |
https://youtu.be/TuZTnZLzb0Q?t=18m43s tenplus1 lmao |
| 13:35 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 13:57 |
tenplus1 |
was about to say that the pepperflash plugin seems to work well with Midori browser... and then it crashed :D |
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| 14:06 |
tenplus1 |
you shall not pass! |
| 14:07 |
tenplus1 |
Jordach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlWwIBwExaI |
| 14:07 |
tenplus1 |
Windows 10 S *HELL* |
| 14:11 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, cheap ass upgrade to Pro tho |
| 14:11 |
Jordach |
then copy the key to a desktop |
| 14:12 |
tenplus1 |
it kinda is extortion tho... free update to 10S but you can only run our apps... want steam or minetest, give us 50 dollars to upgrade to pro |
| 14:15 |
Shara |
ewww |
| 14:16 |
tenplus1 |
MicroSh*t has seriously lost the plot |
| 14:17 |
Jordach |
it's designed for schools and shit |
| 14:17 |
Jordach |
not fucking home use |
| 14:17 |
tenplus1 |
am so glad that I turned to linux all those years ago |
| 14:18 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 14:18 |
Calinou |
lol, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/libreoffice-5-3-3-released-works-better-microsoft-office-documents |
| 14:18 |
Calinou |
is there a single LibreOffice release that's not advertised as "working better with Microsoft Office documents"? |
| 14:18 |
Calinou |
I wonder... |
| 14:18 |
tenplus1 |
that's the problem Jordach, schools can only use what's on the app store... you wanna run or teach programming or like they say "make a robot" you cant without paying 50 quid to run your own software |
| 14:18 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, the admins can sideload win32 apps as usual |
| 14:19 |
tenplus1 |
not unless you run the pro version, they've made sure you can only run store apps unless you update |
| 14:19 |
Calinou |
Windows 10 S is intended as a Chrome OS competitor, but I consider Chrome OS-like things to be flawed by design |
| 14:19 |
Jordach |
it's group policy on steroids |
| 14:19 |
Calinou |
they are poor student machines anyway, so I don't care at first, but it makes me sad that those poor students can't enjoy freedom |
| 14:19 |
tenplus1 |
10s and 10s pro are exactly the same apart from a flag stating you can run your own stuff |
| 14:19 |
Calinou |
I guess we're back to the Windows NT era :P |
| 14:19 |
Calinou |
(where you could pay to allow more TCP connections or something, I read) |
| 14:20 |
Calinou |
dem antifeatures... |
| 14:20 |
tenplus1 |
lol, wsnt that Winxp lite ? |
| 14:20 |
tenplus1 |
could only run 3 apps at one time, no wallpaper etc etc |
| 14:20 |
Jordach |
Vista Basic ^ |
| 14:20 |
tenplus1 |
I'd so convert schools to linux usage :) |
| 14:20 |
Jordach |
and anyways, tenplus1 |
| 14:21 |
Jordach |
Win 10 S is meant to literally be a stripped down copy of windows |
| 14:21 |
tenplus1 |
they removed desktop |
| 14:21 |
Jordach |
you do realise that most normal people don't need anything but facebook, twitter, instagram/pinterest and youtube |
| 14:21 |
Jordach |
and nothing more |
| 14:22 |
tenplus1 |
true, the things that a tablet or phone could run |
| 14:22 |
tenplus1 |
they are stripping users of the freedom to run whatever they want on the Os... the Os should only give you a base to work on... |
| 14:22 |
Jordach |
you expect normal people to understand the mathematical concepts of computer science? |
| 14:23 |
Jordach |
people want to unbox it and it works straight off the ba |
| 14:23 |
tenplus1 |
I expect normal users to at some point wanna use something that isnt in the app store and have the freedom to run it without paying 50 quid |
| 14:23 |
Jordach |
no fucking messing with DEs and nano just to get video drivers working |
| 14:24 |
Jordach |
Linux will take off once it stops expecting users to be COMPUTING LITERATE |
| 14:24 |
tenplus1 |
so far any user I've installed Ubuntu for has been quite happy and had no issue using it |
| 14:25 |
tenplus1 |
you can make it as easy or as advanced as ya like |
| 14:25 |
Jordach |
and that's a prepacked OS |
| 14:26 |
Jordach |
MS stopped doing Home Basic and Home Premium, Ultimate, Professional for a reason |
| 14:26 |
Jordach |
choice confuses consumers |
| 14:26 |
tenplus1 |
now you only have 1 choice :) use our apps or give us 50 quid to use your own |
| 14:27 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, not really |
| 14:27 |
Jordach |
you don't have to buy the laptop |
| 14:27 |
tenplus1 |
am talking about when the update comes out and makes ppl run it |
| 14:28 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, it's strictly for their "chromebook like" range |
| 14:28 |
tenplus1 |
same as win7/8 users being bombarded with win10 update |
| 14:28 |
tenplus1 |
give it time... |
| 14:28 |
tenplus1 |
microsoft runs a certain way... this I expect |
| 14:28 |
Jordach |
crying wolf just because the old guard has caught up and is fighting the behemoth called Google |
| 14:28 |
Jordach |
it's google you should be having fucking issues with |
| 14:28 |
Jordach |
not MS |
| 14:28 |
tenplus1 |
I have my own issues with google as well :P |
| 14:30 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, and guess what, chromebooks are far more locked down than a W10 S laptop |
| 14:30 |
Jordach |
but a browser is almost what anyone needs these days |
| 14:30 |
tenplus1 |
for the most part, true... what I'm saying though is that M$ is taking their flagship Os and locking it down to app store and making you pay to unlock it |
| 14:30 |
tenplus1 |
that's the issue |
| 14:31 |
Jordach |
an issue spawned by other tech giants |
| 14:31 |
tenplus1 |
how many millions of pc's run windows, and how many of those will update when that little popup appears in teh corner to 10S |
| 14:31 |
Jordach |
10S is it's own thing |
| 14:31 |
Jordach |
Windows 7/8 won't recieve GWX anymore |
| 14:32 |
Jordach |
10S is not designed for Home use |
| 14:32 |
Jordach |
that's what Windows 10 Home is for |
| 14:32 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 14:33 |
Jordach |
and businesses already volume license Win10 Enterprise |
| 14:33 |
Jordach |
and in some situations, like for grandad who ends up installing malware |
| 14:34 |
Jordach |
win 10 S is actually useful in very specific cases |
| 14:34 |
Jordach |
it's more specialised than Pro and Home editions |
| 14:35 |
tenplus1 |
depending if the app store apps are actually tested for malware in advance :D |
| 14:35 |
Jordach |
most kids i know at school now say that Windows is what they use at school |
| 14:36 |
Jordach |
they think of windows as a educational / business thing |
| 14:36 |
tenplus1 |
*shudder* |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
<Jordach> choice confuses consumers |
| 14:37 |
Jordach |
their first IT experience is either a tablet with iOS or Android |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
while what you say is true, proprietary software still has a lot of segmentation going on, though it's getting better since ~5 years |
| 14:37 |
tenplus1 |
slow but sure |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
we have 3 Windows editions right now (Home, Pro, Enterprise), but many branches of it: LTSB (for Enterprise), N (no codecs), Single Language, China... |
| 14:38 |
Fixer |
Jordach: who on earth spends money on windows, especially on garbage w10? only way is pirated win 10 enterprise with all crap and tracking removed and still it feels like shit and want to go back to 7 :trollface: |
| 14:39 |
Jordach |
Calinou, N is just the Euro version of Windows |
| 14:39 |
Calinou |
well, the Windows 10 Home on my laptop has a preinstalled key in UEFI |
| 14:39 |
Calinou |
so I paid for it indirectly |
| 14:39 |
Calinou |
so I'm not on Pro, but I don't have to deal with the software whose name starts with a K and ends with a o :) |
| 14:39 |
Calinou |
(since I have Office "for free" too as part of an university program...) |
| 14:40 |
Calinou |
fun fact: Windows 10 Home does not have Group Policy (gpedit.msc), but with regedit, some settings to disable things still work, such as disabling Windows Defender in a permanent manner. However, as of the Creators Update, you get a fancy error icon in your tray area, which is permanent |
| 14:40 |
Calinou |
(Defender icon with an error sign) |
| 14:40 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: you have two choices: 1) suck MS d--k and be happy 2) use other OS |
| 14:41 |
Jordach |
>doesn't realise the entire gaming industry uses windows |
| 14:41 |
tenplus1 |
hi Fixer and yeah, linux all the way :D |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
I do pretty much all of my gaming on Linux now |
| 14:43 |
tenplus1 |
same... steam runs pretty well in Wine 2.01 now :) and anything I can run native I will |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
I mean... now you can play CS:GO comp games with friends running Windows |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
you couldn't dream of that 5 years ago |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
and it works very well |
| 14:43 |
tenplus1 |
interesting -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNf0zGZJbXM |
| 14:44 |
Calinou |
I think I'll buy Dirt Rally when it's on sale, too |
| 14:44 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, every DE looks like a fucking Mac now |
| 14:44 |
Jordach |
ew |
| 14:44 |
Fixer |
Jordach: windows was business OS from the start... it even looked workstation like, before XP era glamurofication/dumbing-down for masses |
| 14:44 |
Calinou |
I have Dirt 3 and Dirt Showdown, the former is not on Linux (yet?), the latter is meh but is on Linux |
| 14:44 |
Calinou |
Dirt Rally is apparently quite good, and has Linux support now |
| 14:44 |
Calinou |
but outside of sales, it's expensive |
| 14:44 |
Calinou |
it was at €12.50 once |
| 14:44 |
tenplus1 |
kewl |
| 14:45 |
tenplus1 |
I wanted "Alice: Madness Returns" for the longest time and got it during a steam sale for 3.50 :)))))) windows only but hey, wine is amazing now |
| 14:45 |
Fixer |
Jordach: todays kiddies start with SHITTY android/IOS, then see REAL OS, ofc it will feel business like for them, you can do actual stuff with it, not like removing glands via anal on smartphone/tablet |
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| 14:46 |
Jordach |
Fixer, any iOS / Android suits their needs |
| 14:46 |
Jordach |
they don't care as long as they have the newest cool app on the store |
| 14:46 |
Fixer |
i had the same feel after ZX spectrum and seeing Win95 in office, it felt good |
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| 14:46 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 14:46 |
Fixer |
Jordach: if you don't do any work - yes |
| 14:47 |
Fixer |
Jordach: if you just watching youtube & shit - sure |
| 14:47 |
Jordach |
Fixer, and i doubt kids want to do anything like that |
| 14:47 |
tenplus1 |
android/ios is probably more than enough for most folks aily usage... |
| 14:48 |
Calinou |
Serious Sam Fusion (currently in beta) works well on native, too |
| 14:48 |
Jordach |
IT in the UK is now trying to get kids programming, and they dont give a single fuck about it |
| 14:48 |
tenplus1 |
if anything they want a bigger screen in a tablet and not desktop usage |
| 14:48 |
Calinou |
tried only OpenGL, but it has Vulkan in beta |
| 14:48 |
Calinou |
now I no longer need WINE for the Serious Sam HD games, which is always a good thing |
| 14:48 |
tenplus1 |
Jordach: not all kids, but some... I went into programming when I was at school |
| 14:48 |
Calinou |
Croteam being Croteam, I guess :P |
| 14:49 |
Fixer |
Jordach: kek, you have not seen my school turbo pascal lessons... stuff like a+b was too hard for 99% |
| 14:49 |
Fixer |
Jordach: it is a myth that everyone wants/can program |
| 14:49 |
tenplus1 |
lol, i wrote a GUi librari in pascal :) was fun |
| 14:49 |
Fixer |
while i was better at that IT stuff, I never went into it, because i dislike all this cancer |
| 14:50 |
Fixer |
Jordach: kids want to play with the stick on the yard (tm) |
| 14:50 |
tenplus1 |
pascal/amos gave me the freedom to make what I wanted... |
| 14:50 |
Fixer |
or football |
| 14:50 |
tenplus1 |
but still found time to get out when I wanted :D |
| 14:51 |
Jordach |
i expect IT to be a dead industry in 30 years |
| 14:51 |
Fixer |
nope |
| 14:51 |
Fixer |
too autistic |
| 14:51 |
Jordach |
Fixer, and theres the problemn |
| 14:51 |
tenplus1 |
definitely not gonna happen... |
| 14:51 |
tenplus1 |
IT will still be there in a big way in teh background... but disposable devices will be more prevalant |
| 14:51 |
Jordach |
everyone who does IT now won't want to do it in 10 years time, and those that do program won't want to either |
| 14:52 |
tenplus1 |
depends on the stress levels of the job I suppose |
| 14:52 |
tenplus1 |
I do it as a hobby and for fun mostly |
| 14:52 |
Jordach |
the veterans are unable to train new blood, tenplus1 |
| 14:53 |
Jordach |
because children are uninterested in the technical aspects |
| 14:53 |
CWz |
What ever happened to PilzAdam |
| 14:53 |
tenplus1 |
no idea CWz, might be taking a haitus |
| 14:53 |
Fixer |
Jordach: thats why I don't went into IT, because IT is not developing Minecraft (tm) or something you like, but developing some FUCKING PURE enterprise SHITE written in SHIT BY SHITHEADS for some shitbank or whatever |
| 14:53 |
tenplus1 |
did you hear about the Cobol situation in banks ??? |
| 14:53 |
CWz |
Python ftw |
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| 14:54 |
Fixer |
you think IT is cool, but you end up with boring shit nobody wants to do |
| 14:54 |
Fixer |
who wants to develope some shitty program for shitty bank, thats very sad and depressing |
| 14:54 |
tenplus1 |
the older IT peeps who know Cobol are slowly dying off and no-one wants to learn it anymore, so they are scurrying around trying to get the banking systems converted to another language which is more popular and has support :D gonna cost millions |
| 14:55 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: nobody cares, fuck cobol, fuck banks, fuck everybody |
| 14:55 |
tenplus1 |
thanks dude :P |
| 14:55 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: bank will fail anyway in sometime, why care dealing with IT-autists... :trollface: |
| 14:56 |
tenplus1 |
convert it all to Visual Basic :PPPP ahahaha |
| 14:56 |
Calinou |
in Minetest, you don't Cobol. You Cobble. |
| 14:56 |
Fixer |
CEO has his money and shareholders are happy |
| 14:56 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 14:57 |
Fixer |
Calinou: in minetest you are Cobble, because MTG is "simple" (tm)(r)(c) |
| 14:57 |
Jordach |
fun fact |
| 14:58 |
Jordach |
Mojang were too late with MC:Edu |
| 14:58 |
Jordach |
MC is now uncool |
| 14:58 |
tenplus1 |
ahahahahah |
| 14:58 |
tenplus1 |
and I've heard that some schools are using Minetest instead :D |
| 14:58 |
tenplus1 |
lua is easier |
| 14:58 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, by too late i mean MC is no longer cool to kids |
| 14:58 |
Jordach |
they've moved on |
| 14:58 |
tenplus1 |
what they gagging for now ?? |
| 14:59 |
tenplus1 |
better not be a new candy crush |
| 14:59 |
Jordach |
Roblox |
| 14:59 |
Jordach |
which has a Windows 10 store app |
| 14:59 |
tenplus1 |
*shudder*... it's like a simplified version of gary's game |
| 14:59 |
Jordach |
and it's free |
| 15:00 |
tenplus1 |
but hey ho... each to their own |
| 15:00 |
Fixer |
Jordach: MC not cool for kids? finally, kid free environment soon! |
| 15:01 |
tenplus1 |
eheheheh |
| 15:01 |
Jordach |
Fixer, exactly, their YT'ers have moved on |
| 15:01 |
tenplus1 |
we still have loads of android/ios users on server... sadly using bogus clones |
| 15:01 |
Jordach |
(it appears to be somewhere between GTA:O and Roblox) |
| 15:01 |
Fixer |
Jordach: there are still lots of MC YTbers |
| 15:01 |
Jordach |
Fixer, but are switching their games out to be fresh |
| 15:02 |
Fixer |
yep |
| 15:02 |
Jordach |
things like DW20 and co aren't going to; it's their thing |
| 15:02 |
tenplus1 |
yeah... Yogscast is pretty funny atm, watching Duncan |
| 15:03 |
Fixer |
Jordach: minetest game accept cars after 6 years of development, viable alternative to MC, says expert |
| 15:03 |
tenplus1 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pu5fRGP6PE |
| 15:03 |
Fixer |
carts* |
| 15:03 |
tenplus1 |
MT will slowly become a game but for now it relies on servers to give it that |
| 15:04 |
Fixer |
on modders |
| 15:04 |
tenplus1 |
modders write but it's up to the servers/players to use what we make |
| 15:05 |
tenplus1 |
I've only seen one other server using Lucky Blocks... |
| 15:05 |
Fixer |
yes, but I want a game, not crippled sandbox i will be bored in 30 min |
| 15:05 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, again, out of fashion |
| 15:05 |
tenplus1 |
bums! |
| 15:07 |
tenplus1 |
we need players to come up with adventure maps that others will play... something to bring a story to mt |
| 15:07 |
tenplus1 |
I asked bodil40 a whlie back if he'd be that person... nothing yet :OP |
| 15:09 |
Shara |
Ten, you know that's something I'm looking at... |
| 15:10 |
tenplus1 |
adventure/story games ? |
| 15:10 |
Shara |
Yup |
| 15:11 |
tenplus1 |
w00t! :) if players have a goal with some adventure inbetween it'd make for a great game... |
| 15:11 |
tenplus1 |
I keep meaning to work on the command blocks but never have the time |
| 15:11 |
Shara |
don't know if it will fully do what you are thinking, but taking my time to get everything I want right for it :) |
| 15:12 |
tenplus1 |
step at a time :) is the way to go |
| 15:12 |
tenplus1 |
Don's soundblocks will come in handy as well for mob battle music etc |
| 15:12 |
Shara |
well, this will have puzzles, not mobs |
| 15:13 |
tenplus1 |
puzzles are good :D |
| 15:13 |
Shara |
it's one of the reasons I was interested in the collission box changes |
| 15:13 |
tenplus1 |
was gonna put item gravity on dropped items so they would have different effects when you drop them... aiming into gaps etc, detectors etc |
| 15:14 |
* Shara |
really really wants a way to flip gravity |
| 15:14 |
tenplus1 |
player can attach to entity to flip gravity |
| 15:15 |
tenplus1 |
but controlling entity vs real player contol is a pain in the butt |
| 15:15 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: lag |
| 15:16 |
tenplus1 |
yup |
| 15:16 |
Shara |
I'm just mainly looking at things that can be done to players to help/hinder them getting through obstacles |
| 15:16 |
tenplus1 |
kinda wish you could assign a player flag to an actual entity and take control |
| 15:17 |
Shara |
it would help |
| 15:18 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, would give you more freedom with player look/collision/etc and give you proper gravity changes |
| 15:18 |
tenplus1 |
and flipping |
| 15:18 |
tenplus1 |
back laters :S |
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| 15:27 |
benrob0329 |
<+Jordach> tenplus1, every DE looks like a fucking Mac now |
| 15:28 |
benrob0329 |
Lxde, KDE Plasma, Xfce, Literally every Window manager + panel is defaulted to a windows like look |
| 15:28 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, not the prepacked Distros |
| 15:28 |
benrob0329 |
heh |
| 15:28 |
benrob0329 |
Xubuntu, Lubuntu |
| 15:28 |
benrob0329 |
Antergos running anything but Gnome |
| 15:29 |
benrob0329 |
Kubuntu/kde neon |
| 15:29 |
benrob0329 |
You clearly don't know Linux, Jordach |
| 15:30 |
benrob0329 |
And yeah, gnome got smart and started to innovate |
| 15:31 |
benrob0329 |
Some people like it, some dont |
| 15:32 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: gnome got apple |
| 15:33 |
benrob0329 |
Apples are good, full of fiber. |
| 15:33 |
Fixer |
and i'm really tired of copying apple |
| 15:33 |
benrob0329 |
I'm really tierd of copying windows |
| 15:34 |
Fixer |
still gravitation to NT/W2K UI times, simple yet powerful, now it is degenerated into clusterfuck |
| 15:34 |
benrob0329 |
The only thing Gnome does that's apple like by default is have a bar on top |
| 15:35 |
Fixer |
gnome is cancer |
| 15:35 |
benrob0329 |
outide of that its almost completely different |
| 15:35 |
benrob0329 |
You are cancer |
| 15:36 |
Fixer |
Jordach: turns out some MC modpacks eat all my VRAM and has like 3 fps, after disabling mipmaps it goes back to 80-100 fps |
| 15:36 |
benrob0329 |
tell me, why the hell is gnome so bad? |
| 15:36 |
Jordach |
Fixer, ^ |
| 15:36 |
Fixer |
and i have 1gb of vram |
| 15:36 |
benrob0329 |
Heh, that's cute |
| 15:36 |
Fixer |
not much by today standards |
| 15:37 |
benrob0329 |
again, why is gnome so bad, aside from just "I don't like it" |
| 15:37 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: HIG, elitism, low customise, copy apple, remove features |
| 15:37 |
benrob0329 |
Hig, translation please |
| 15:38 |
benrob0329 |
Elitism, no more than KDE |
| 15:38 |
Fixer |
https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/ |
| 15:38 |
benrob0329 |
Low customize, ever heard of Dconf and extensions? |
| 15:38 |
Fixer |
KDE is bloat |
| 15:38 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: yes, even heared gconf |
| 15:39 |
Fixer |
GTK is shitmess |
| 15:39 |
benrob0329 |
Copy apple, what because there is a bar on top? Screw off |
| 15:39 |
Fixer |
there are tons of holywars about gnome and apple :D |
| 15:40 |
benrob0329 |
Remove features, like what? I hear this all the time but no one can ever give me an example |
| 15:40 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: i was reading lots of holywars since release of gnome 2 and gnome 3 at the time |
| 15:41 |
Fixer |
and it was all about "HIG, elitism, low customise, copy apple, remove features" |
| 15:41 |
benrob0329 |
early gnome3 was pretty bad from whar I hear |
| 15:41 |
Fixer |
kde also had some problem with keyboard switcher |
| 15:41 |
Fixer |
KDE4 = total kek |
| 15:41 |
Fixer |
KDE4.0 is not KDE4 |
| 15:41 |
* red-002 |
dislikes KDE |
| 15:41 |
Fixer |
that was shitmess |
| 15:42 |
benrob0329 |
gnome3 was rejected because it was different, and early in development |
| 15:42 |
benrob0329 |
Its slowly fixed many of the problems it had early on |
| 15:43 |
Fixer |
somewhere near 2010 people were: eh, GNOME2 2.20 is shiiiiiiiiit, but it is my shit and I'm used to it; KDE3 is so bloat/windowsy - used to it, then they both ruined it and started global linux DE shitshow, so big, that XFCE became so popular now |
| 15:43 |
benrob0329 |
But some still hang on to criticizing the early problems it had |
| 15:43 |
benrob0329 |
Yes, people hate change |
| 15:43 |
Fixer |
kde5 = plasma still crashing |
| 15:44 |
benrob0329 |
Funny how they change when they don't like the change |
| 15:44 |
benrob0329 |
Its more stable now, but yeah |
| 15:46 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: in 2010 or so it was polished shit, now it is unpolished hipster shit |
| 15:46 |
Fixer |
gtk2/3/4 compabitibity problems |
| 15:47 |
Fixer |
gimp still at gtk2, hipsters rush to gtk4 |
| 15:47 |
benrob0329 |
Gtk4 isn't even in dev yet |
| 15:47 |
Fixer |
very soon |
| 15:47 |
benrob0329 |
Possibly |
| 15:48 |
benrob0329 |
At least its not trying to use gtk2 themes for all of its apps |
| 15:48 |
benrob0329 |
Sure, gimp uses 2 |
| 15:49 |
Fixer |
gtk 3 theme support is shitshow |
| 15:49 |
Fixer |
if you are theme creator you are mazohist |
| 15:49 |
benrob0329 |
because its css? |
| 15:49 |
Fixer |
because of changes every release, themes break every release |
| 15:49 |
benrob0329 |
haven't noticed, but ok |
| 15:50 |
Fixer |
and then once gtk 3 "stabilise", they throw it out in garbage and start unstable gtk4 |
| 15:50 |
benrob0329 |
again, you say that |
| 15:50 |
benrob0329 |
But there are no dates for 4 |
| 15:51 |
benrob0329 |
its only been talked about for starting somewhere in the future |
| 15:52 |
benrob0329 |
But as I've said in the past, and as ill say now |
| 15:52 |
benrob0329 |
Imgui ftw |
| 15:53 |
benrob0329 |
It doesn't reinvent the wheel like QT |
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| 15:54 |
benrob0329 |
and its not GTK (which gets more hate than the sneak changes) |
| 15:55 |
benrob0329 |
Its dead simple, and as cross platform as the renderer you use. |
| 15:56 |
red-002 |
sn**k |
| 15:56 |
benrob0329 |
Lol |
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| 15:56 |
red-002 |
don't curse in here |
| 15:57 |
* red-002 |
missed the chance to curse while saying that |
| 16:01 |
rdococ |
meow |
| 16:01 |
Shara |
Hi rdococ-cat |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
Jordach: I remember Overwatch being fairly cool to kids too |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
(especially Reaper…) |
| 16:08 |
rdococ |
hi Shara |
| 16:08 |
Jordach |
Calinou, pie pie pie |
| 16:10 |
rdococ |
Tasty |
| 16:14 |
Fixer |
Calinou: why would not it? |
| 16:15 |
Calinou |
it's marketed super well anyway |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
so they can sell it at €40 average, €35 at best, and get away with it |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
:| |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
and not have any macOS or Linux support :P |
| 16:17 |
benrob0329 |
Proprietary software, isn't it great? |
| 16:18 |
benrob0329 |
"You cant tell us what to do, we hold the monopoly." |
| 16:21 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/e3K7eqL.png TRIGGERED |
| 16:24 |
benrob0329 |
DOUBLE TRIGGERED |
| 16:24 |
rdococ |
TRIPLE TRIGGERED |
| 16:25 |
Shara |
I just /kick without even thinking these days :) |
| 16:27 |
benrob0329 |
"Oh what, you thought you could roleplay on MY server?" |
| 16:27 |
benrob0329 |
"Well you can't, so bye." |
| 16:31 |
Shara |
It's in the rules. |
| 16:31 |
Shara |
Can't stand this family stuff. |
| 16:31 |
Calinou |
we have this in #redeclipse, TRIGGERED ECLIPSE |
| 16:31 |
Calinou |
:P |
| 16:31 |
benrob0329 |
~tell tenplus1 https://github.com/matrix-org/purple-matrix/ |
| 16:31 |
ShadowBot |
benrob0329: O.K. |
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red-003 |
lol apprently the european central bank has a youtube channel and I'm subscribed to it |
| 17:00 |
DS-minetest |
thanks Shara :) |
| 17:00 |
DS-minetest |
btw |
| 17:00 |
Shara |
No problem :) |
| 17:04 |
benrob0329 |
Hi DS-minetest |
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DS-minetest |
hi benrob0329 |
| 17:17 |
rdococ |
hi DS-minetest |
| 17:17 |
DS-minetest |
hi rdococ |
| 17:17 |
rdococ |
hi benrob0329 |
| 17:18 |
benrob0329 |
Hi rdococ |
| 17:18 |
* benrob0329 |
restarts the gentoo install because he didn't make /boot big enough |
| 17:20 |
Fixer |
gentoo @ 2017 |
| 17:23 |
kaeza |
hurd @ 2117 |
| 17:24 |
cx384 |
hi |
| 17:24 |
benrob0329 |
Hi cx384 |
| 17:25 |
Shara |
Hi cx384 :) |
| 17:25 |
Fixer |
kaeza: 2217 |
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| 17:56 |
rdococ |
hi Krock |
| 17:56 |
Krock |
hi rdococ |
| 17:56 |
benrob0329 |
o/ Krock |
| 17:56 |
Krock |
and really. IRC is the only stable connection here |
| 17:57 |
kaeza |
o/ Krock |
| 17:57 |
kaeza |
rdococ! |
| 17:57 |
Fixer |
ＣＹＢＥＲＢＡＴＯＮＳ |
| 17:57 |
Krock |
ping to 8.8.8.8 (google) and github time out.. wtf |
| 17:57 |
benrob0329 |
What |
| 17:57 |
nerzhul |
Krock, maybe they block ICMP |
| 17:57 |
Shara |
Hi Krock |
| 17:57 |
sofar |
carrier pidgeon internet |
| 17:57 |
Krock |
nerzhul, it just worked 3 mins ago |
| 17:58 |
Krock |
with an average response time of 16ms |
| 17:58 |
* Krock |
keeps whois'ing to check if IRC is still alive |
| 18:00 |
Krock |
mhm. how am I supposed to read the notifications here? :/ |
| 18:01 |
rdococ |
hi |
| 18:01 |
Krock |
brb, trying to fiddle a bit with the wireless card settings. maybe it helps |
| 18:03 |
Fixer |
what notifications? |
| 18:04 |
cx384 |
bye |
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| 18:08 |
Fixer |
Krock, github went bankrupt |
| 18:09 |
benrob0329 |
Heh |
| 18:09 |
Fixer |
btw, we need actual backup plan for everything minetest related hosted on github |
| 18:10 |
Fixer |
i doubt it will happen soon enough |
| 18:10 |
Fixer |
but still amusing to think how much headache it will cause |
| 18:11 |
red-003 |
not really |
| 18:11 |
red-003 |
there is gitlab |
| 18:11 |
Fixer |
say it goes off in 1 year, so you need to get the list or minetest-related repos, including active forks, then close thousands of them to other platform, etc |
| 18:11 |
Fixer |
list of* |
| 18:11 |
kaeza |
most core devs have local copies of the repo |
| 18:12 |
Fixer |
"then close" wth i'm typing |
| 18:12 |
kaeza |
so it doesn't matter |
| 18:12 |
Fixer |
"then clone" |
| 18:12 |
red-003 |
I kinda doubt that github will go down |
| 18:12 |
Fixer |
kaeza: mods |
| 18:12 |
Fixer |
red-003: lets say they decide not to host open source stuff anymore |
| 18:12 |
kaeza |
Fixer, modders have local copies :P |
| 18:13 |
red-003 |
^ |
| 18:13 |
kaeza |
well, except in the case of *ahem* HDD crash |
| 18:13 |
Fixer |
kaeza: and some don't care or died |
| 18:13 |
kaeza |
;_; |
| 18:13 |
red-003 |
well we have a lot of mods |
| 18:13 |
Fixer |
i have an idea for April 1 minetest joke |
| 18:13 |
Fixer |
greatest idea ever |
| 18:14 |
kaeza |
do tell |
| 18:14 |
Fixer |
Minetest is moving to Sourceforge |
| 18:14 |
red-003 |
sourceforge is too respectable |
| 18:14 |
red-003 |
try znet |
| 18:14 |
kaeza |
google code? |
| 18:15 |
benrob0329 |
Bitbucket |
| 18:15 |
Fixer |
red-003: have you seen sourceforge UI? |
| 18:15 |
benrob0329 |
Or KDE's git servers, and is being renamed to Kminer :PP |
| 18:15 |
red-003 |
I meant cnet |
| 18:15 |
kaeza |
does SF even support git? |
| 18:15 |
benrob0329 |
I think.it does |
| 18:15 |
red-003 |
have you seen cnet ads? |
| 18:15 |
kaeza |
last time I used it it only supported CVS IIRC |
| 18:15 |
Fixer |
you need to have double PHD in sourceforge to actually browse it |
| 18:16 |
kaeza |
that was looong ago, tho |
| 18:16 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: moves to Savannah... |
| 18:17 |
Fixer |
red-003: sourceforge is respectable? you probably was in cryo few last years |
| 18:18 |
Fixer |
there was a shitshow with sourceforge with ragequits and stuff |
| 18:18 |
red-003 |
I didn't say it was respectable |
| 18:18 |
Fixer |
ah, too respectable, ok |
| 18:18 |
red-003 |
just cnet is so much worse |
| 18:19 |
Fixer |
it is very cancerous |
| 18:22 |
benrob0329 |
Nonono |
| 18:22 |
benrob0329 |
MetaFire/whatever its called |
| 18:29 |
rdococ |
Meow? Meow. Meow! |
| 18:30 |
benrob0329 |
Woof |
| 18:31 |
* rdococ |
turns into a vampire and runs through an infinite mirror tunnel |
| 18:31 |
rdococ |
weeee |
| 18:31 |
benrob0329 |
But you cant see yourself |
| 18:31 |
rdococ |
I know. |
| 18:31 |
rdococ |
but I can walk through mirrors, because magic. |
| 18:31 |
benrob0329 |
oh |
| 18:31 |
rdococ |
and I have no reflection blocking me. |
| 18:32 |
benrob0329 |
mmmk then |
| 18:32 |
rdococ |
It's a part of a fictional thing I'm working on. |
| 18:32 |
benrob0329 |
I'll just pretend like I didnt just hear some serios parallel univers stuff and move on |
| 18:33 |
* rdococ |
places a mirror below, and a mirror above him, and falls infinitely. "Weeeeee!" |
| 18:33 |
* benrob0329 |
places an inverse mirror under him |
| 18:33 |
benrob0329 |
s/inverse/anti |
| 18:34 |
rdococ |
An anti-mirror? O_o |
| 18:34 |
benrob0329 |
Yes, it reflects everything that can't be reflected |
| 18:34 |
benrob0329 |
So transparent objecs, air, |
| 18:34 |
benrob0329 |
Vampires |
| 18:35 |
rdococ |
Air can be reflected. Otherwise you wouldn't see the sky when you place a mirror outside. |
| 18:36 |
benrob0329 |
Only the long blue wavelengths of light that slowly collect due to distortion |
| 18:36 |
rdococ |
Does that count as a form of reflection? |
| 18:36 |
rdococ |
Imagine the Sun was a vampire. Would the sky still be blue? |
| 18:37 |
rdococ |
Also, imagine a tiny cube whose inside surfaces are mirrors. Could a vampire survive in such a small space by virtue of being able to go through mirrors? |
| 18:37 |
rdococ |
Also, what happens if you open the cube? |
| 18:37 |
rdococ |
How would you get a vampire in there in the first place? |
| 18:38 |
benrob0329 |
Why don't vampires have a reflection? |
| 18:38 |
benrob0329 |
Lets just answer that one |
| 18:39 |
rdococ |
I once tried a thought experiment to transfer information FTL through a vampire's interaction with photons. |
| 18:40 |
rubenwardy |
sfan5, #minetest |
| 18:40 |
rdococ |
It didn't work. |
| 18:40 |
rubenwardy |
omg guys |
| 18:40 |
rubenwardy |
you won't believe this |
| 18:40 |
rubenwardy |
there is a mt TLD |
| 18:41 |
rdococ |
TLD? |
| 18:41 |
rubenwardy |
top level domain |
| 18:41 |
rdococ |
ah |
| 18:42 |
rubenwardy |
you can't buy example.mt though :( Only example.[com|org|net].mt |
| 18:43 |
rdococ |
ooh |
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| 18:48 |
benrob0329 |
Can we get minetest.mt? |
| 18:48 |
benrob0329 |
Or game.mt |
| 18:48 |
benrob0329 |
Or mtg.mt |
| 18:48 |
rdococ |
nah |
| 18:50 |
rdococ |
.mt is malta :P |
| 18:51 |
CWz |
sorry i am not planing to malta way here |
| 18:52 |
CWz |
I plan to remain a glacier for the next couple hundred years |
| 18:52 |
Fixer |
mine.io |
| 18:52 |
Fixer |
hip level above 9000 |
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| 18:53 |
CWz |
io nothing to know one |
| 18:53 |
* CWz |
will stop trying to make puns now |
| 18:55 |
CWz |
How come most server players don't help with codding minetest? because they don't want to commit to the project. |
| 18:55 |
* CWz |
is angry at himself |
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* garywhite |
appears |
| 18:55 |
* CWz |
disappears |
| 18:55 |
garywhite |
because a lot of us don't know how to code C++ |
| 18:57 |
benrob0329 |
Ok, things should be mounted correctly this time around |
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* benrob0329 |
builds base desktop configuration |
| 19:06 |
paramat |
Shara we cannot yet invert the player with true inverted gravity, but, have you tried 'physics override' with gravity = -1? player might rise to the ceiling |
| 19:07 |
paramat |
and maybe walk on the ceiling on it's head |
| 19:07 |
Shara |
paramat: will try thanks :) |
| 19:29 |
Wayward_One |
hi all :) |
| 19:34 |
Hijiri |
someone registered minetest.moe |
| 19:37 |
red-003 |
did someone get the free domains as well? |
| 19:41 |
Calinou |
minetest.sexy |
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benrob0329 |
red-- |
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red-002 |
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vneVi-0dODZvg0KMjAbIbp3EMvlOwb8x8sjLRAxFfRRvS7c2nAf4L-ZPU-480Eq-4mD2=h900-rw |
| 21:08 |
red-002 |
seen on an uncredited version of minetest in the app store |
| 21:10 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 21:10 |
rubenwardy |
please may a moderator move this to offtopic? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17576&view=unread#unread |
| 21:10 |
rubenwardy |
it has no place in 'Feature Discussion' |
| 21:11 |
red-002 |
do meta post belong in general? |
| 21:11 |
red-002 |
posts* |
| 21:12 |
rubenwardy |
it has the quality of an offtopic post, so should be there |
| 21:13 |
red-002 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17508&view=viewpoll |
| 21:14 |
rubenwardy |
heh |
| 21:15 |
rubenwardy |
that's basically offtopic |
| 21:15 |
red-002 |
whats with android forks and using google drive as a hosting service |
| 21:22 |
red-002 |
lol looking at the lua code of one of these "forks" and it seems someone took serious offence to the existence of a settings menu |
| 21:24 |
Hijiri |
did they put insults in comments |
| 21:25 |
red-002 |
-- core.debug("MAINSCUM *U*K THIS SHIT, BTN_SETTINGS") |
| 21:25 |
red-002 |
censored by me |
| 21:26 |
Fixer |
nice |
| 21:26 |
Fixer |
at least it is not a suicide |
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nerzhul |
red-002, lol |
| 21:35 |
Fixer |
what is mainscum? |
| 21:41 |
Hijiri |
the primary evil |
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| 22:40 |
red-002 |
I assume main refers to main menu but honestly I don't know |
| 22:46 |
red-002 |
oh neat |
| 22:46 |
red-002 |
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=MG17+Games |
| 22:46 |
red-002 |
the only thing this developer does it release illegal copies of minetest |
| 22:48 |
red-002 |
looks like the business model is |
| 22:48 |
red-002 |
1. find new map |
| 22:48 |
red-002 |
2. get it to kinda work |
| 22:48 |
red-002 |
3. ads? |
| 22:48 |
red-002 |
4. profit |
| 22:49 |
rubenwardy |
yep |
| 22:51 |
red-002 |
well at least it's only singleplayer |
| 22:53 |
Shara |
I find it funny how the screenshots on some of them have lots of unknown nodes :) |
| 22:54 |
benrob0329 |
Can I barch report someone for IP infringement? |
| 22:55 |
red-002 |
Shara, see step 2 |
| 22:55 |
benrob0329 |
Not only is it stolen content (maps aren't automatically free!) But the game itself it licensed illegally |
| 22:55 |
Shara |
I know. Still amusing :) |
| 22:56 |
benrob0329 |
I just...want to slap some people and say "What is wrong with you?" |
| 22:56 |
rubenwardy |
is it definitely IP infringement? |
| 22:57 |
rubenwardy |
ie: do they not give source at all |
| 22:57 |
Shara |
benrob0329: people will do whatever for easy money. |
| 22:57 |
red-002 |
well I didn't try to run the game |
| 22:57 |
red-002 |
but they don't seem to add it to the description |
| 22:58 |
rubenwardy |
do they mention it in the main menu? |
| 22:59 |
red-002 |
I looked at the main menu source code and it seems to be a no but I might have missed it |
| 22:59 |
red-002 |
I will try installing the apk tomorrow |
| 22:59 |
benrob0329 |
I legit just flagged evetything of his/her's for ip infringement |
| 23:01 |
rubenwardy |
:P |
| 23:02 |
red-002 |
looks like they also removed the credits tab but even if the didn't that still links to minetest.net |
| 23:02 |
rubenwardy |
we need to have a resource which links to all minetest clones on the play store |
| 23:02 |
rubenwardy |
and whether they attribute |
| 23:02 |
rubenwardy |
sorry, follow the source |
| 23:02 |
rubenwardy |
*license |
| 23:02 |
rubenwardy |
they we can go through and send emails to the developer |
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| 23:07 |
benrob0329 |
(Kek) https://vid.me/mNI4 |
| 23:07 |
rubenwardy |
I'd like to ask that know one takes any action on any infringing apps |
| 23:07 |
rubenwardy |
especially aggressive actions |
| 23:07 |
rubenwardy |
you should just report it |
| 23:07 |
rubenwardy |
to us, that is |
| 23:08 |
benrob0329 |
Ok |
| 23:08 |
benrob0329 |
Will do |
| 23:08 |
red-002 |
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=freeWorld.blockcraft.pocketedition |
| 23:08 |
red-002 |
someone should tell them |
| 23:11 |
paramat |
'blox craft' uh great name. at least the world is not 'near-infinite' though |
| 23:15 |
Fixer |
my current base: https://i.imgur.com/ic45cSW.png |
| 23:16 |
garywhite |
Hey everyone, Amazon has the Pi 3 rn for under 40 bucks |
| 23:19 |
benrob0329 |
isn't it suppised to be $35? |
| 23:33 |
rubenwardy |
all Minetest apps with ads are infringing, probably |
| 23:33 |
rubenwardy |
as you need to license as LGPL |
| 23:33 |
rubenwardy |
and you cannot do that if you use ad code in LGPL code |
| 23:33 |
rubenwardy |
so you need to use Minetest as a library |
| 23:34 |
rubenwardy |
and call the ad code from a proprietary Java wrapper |
| 23:34 |
rubenwardy |
however, LGPL requires that the user can replace the LGPL code |
| 23:41 |
rubenwardy |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Licensing#Complying_with_the_License |
| 23:41 |
rubenwardy |
celeron55, sofar ^ |
| 23:41 |
rubenwardy |
from reading the license source, and from googling |
