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benrob0329 |
IT BOOTS!!! |
| 01:26 |
benrob0329 |
Weeeew! |
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Shara |
benrob0329: apparently I like playing without node highlighting/outlining more than I expected. |
| 01:33 |
Shara |
thanks for that idea. This is fun |
| 01:34 |
benrob0329 |
Its nice, isn't it? Having a clean hud :P |
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Shara |
yea |
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Shara |
re-coded it now |
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Shara |
will ask a couple more people to look at the current version before I make a PR |
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garywhite |
what did I miss? |
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Shara |
not much. I was poking code a bit |
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benrob0329 |
garywhite: i installed gentoo :P |
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benrob0329 |
(Offtopic) https://youtu.be/lQ-UCI9nmis |
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Calinou |
yes, pretty sure all Minetest apps with ads are violating the LGPL |
| 06:23 |
Calinou |
due to proprietary ad SDKs |
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Calinou |
(none of them are open source-friendly) |
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benrob0329 |
(Kek) http://www.strawpoll.me/12947272 |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
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| 08:23 |
shivajiva |
Morning tenplus1 :) |
| 08:23 |
tenplus1 |
hi shiva |
| 08:24 |
tenplus1 |
getting the odd report that players are being teleported inside walls with the new knockback feature |
| 09:14 |
tenplus1 |
Mobs Redo updated to 1.35 - Added owner_loyal flag so that owned mobs will attack enemies, fixed group_attack to same mob type |
| 09:54 |
shivajiva |
hmm I've had no reports of that yet. lets see what the weekend brings, wouldn't mobs occasionally go through walls or get stuck in them or is this maybe a combo of lag and acceleration |
| 09:55 |
tenplus1 |
the new routine uses player moveto so lag and that may cause issue... |
| 09:55 |
tenplus1 |
added moveto(pos, true) flag for continouos |
| 09:55 |
tenplus1 |
might help |
| 09:56 |
shivajiva |
but the entity would have to enter the node to pass it's position as coinciding with a node surely |
| 09:57 |
tenplus1 |
true, it would... and the collisionbox of entity is same as player so should never happen... |
| 09:57 |
tenplus1 |
it's a weird one... might just be a glitch elsewhere |
| 09:58 |
shivajiva |
love these glitches :) |
| 09:58 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 09:58 |
tenplus1 |
the new mob loyalty works well though :D |
| 10:00 |
shivajiva |
good, do they fight to the death or is there a mechanism for fleeing when health is low? |
| 10:01 |
tenplus1 |
I may add that next :) sounds good |
| 10:01 |
shivajiva |
:) |
| 10:01 |
tenplus1 |
hogs and cows will attack normally when punched, so a tamed one will help protect it's owner now |
| 10:01 |
tenplus1 |
dogs also |
| 10:01 |
shivajiva |
nice |
| 10:10 |
tenplus1 |
xanadu updated |
| 10:12 |
tenplus1 |
brb, upgrading net-top memory |
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Zeno` |
not possible! All PRs are tested extensively |
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| 10:26 |
tenplus1 |
back, and with 4gb :PPP |
| 10:27 |
shivajiva |
wb :D |
| 10:27 |
tenplus1 |
thanks :D |
| 10:27 |
Zeno` |
there are officially no bugs that I know of |
| 10:27 |
shivajiva |
Hiya Zeno :) |
| 10:27 |
tenplus1 |
bugs for what ? |
| 10:27 |
Zeno` |
minetest |
| 10:28 |
shivajiva |
he's refering to my statement about loving glitches |
| 10:28 |
tenplus1 |
eheheh |
| 10:28 |
shivajiva |
there are none officially xD |
| 10:29 |
Zeno` |
there are a few features |
| 10:29 |
tenplus1 |
lol... "features" :PPPP |
| 10:29 |
shivajiva |
and everyone is nice and polite, never a cross word round here :) |
| 10:29 |
Zeno` |
that's right, shivajiva. You can shut tf up now |
| 10:30 |
* shivajiva |
wants to live in this strange world Zeno speaks of |
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| 10:30 |
tenplus1 |
hi Darcidride |
| 10:30 |
shivajiva |
shutting me up is quite difficult it seems :P |
| 10:31 |
tenplus1 |
the only bug I found is the chest inventory name, and am still waiting for pull to be accepted to fix it |
| 10:31 |
Zeno` |
be quiet you imbecilic moron! (no offense intended) |
| 10:31 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1731 |
| 10:31 |
shivajiva |
nice! None taken =) |
| 10:32 |
Zeno` |
with the IQ of a pea I would not have expected you to take offense, so good |
| 10:32 |
Zeno` |
it's good that we can be nice towards each other |
| 10:32 |
Darcidride |
Hi everybody |
| 10:32 |
shivajiva |
yea isn't it :) |
| 10:33 |
shivajiva |
Hi Darcidride o/ |
| 10:33 |
tenplus1 |
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9d/26/aa/9d26aacb9f296e5b25e59a40115931d6--funny-memes-funny-quotes.jpg |
| 10:34 |
shivajiva |
Zeno the hun maybe better? |
| 10:34 |
\o` |
I don't look at porn |
| 10:35 |
shivajiva |
hmm I was thinking Atilla but whatever floats your boat |
| 10:36 |
\o` |
I don't have a boat though |
| 10:36 |
\o` |
lol |
| 10:36 |
shivajiva |
wondered why you were swimming :) |
| 10:43 |
\o` |
I am the funky cold medina! |
| 10:44 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 10:46 |
\o` |
look, why are you so fly? |
| 10:46 |
* tenplus1 |
is pretty fly for a white guy :P |
| 10:46 |
\o` |
put a little medina in ya glass |
| 10:47 |
\o` |
a couple of sips of this love potion and... |
| 10:47 |
\o` |
gave some to my dog |
| 10:47 |
\o` |
and now all the poodles in my neighbourhood come runnin' to my door |
| 10:48 |
\o` |
tenplus1, give it to me baby |
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| 10:48 |
tenplus1 |
hi fixer |
| 10:49 |
Fixer |
hi |
| 10:49 |
\o` |
And all the girls say I'm pretty fly (for a white guy) |
| 10:49 |
shivajiva |
Hi Fixer |
| 10:50 |
\o` |
Uno, dos, tres, cuatro, cinco, cinco, seis |
| 10:50 |
\o` |
dunno the song though |
| 10:51 |
\o` |
tenplus1, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM9XkkrhUj0 |
| 10:52 |
tenplus1 |
lol, nice |
| 10:53 |
tenplus1 |
for some reason the video feels like it was created on an Amiga :D |
| 10:53 |
\o` |
maybe it was :D |
| 10:54 |
\o` |
era is right |
| 10:54 |
tenplus1 |
+1 :D |
| 10:55 |
\o` |
it's not a demo, but Amiga had that genkey thing (or whatever it was called) |
| 10:55 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, chroma key... I had one :DDDDDD |
| 10:55 |
tenplus1 |
amazing wee gadget |
| 10:55 |
\o` |
yeah |
| 10:56 |
\o` |
the original is from 1983/84/85 (somewhere around there) |
| 10:56 |
\o` |
but that remix could have been done using Amiga |
| 10:58 |
\o` |
tenplus1, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39YUXIKrOFk |
| 10:58 |
\o` |
LOL |
| 10:58 |
tenplus1 |
even back then I was rendering with it and using it for all sorts |
| 10:58 |
tenplus1 |
'das my karaoke song o.O |
| 10:58 |
\o` |
really? hahahah |
| 10:59 |
tenplus1 |
one of my first renders in Imagine 2.0 http://www.deviantart.com/art/Candy-Cog-804267 |
| 10:59 |
\o` |
hmm, that's pretty nice |
| 11:06 |
\o` |
Ooh Aah Just A Little Bit |
| 11:10 |
tenplus1 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPxoZbEA7sw |
| 11:11 |
\o` |
That's not I'm a Barbie Girl |
| 11:11 |
tenplus1 |
am also good at B52's Love Shack :D |
| 11:11 |
\o` |
no love for The Proclaimers? :( |
| 11:12 |
\o` |
or The Ketchup Song? |
| 11:12 |
tenplus1 |
good song but I cant sing that one |
| 11:12 |
\o` |
ot Cotton Eyed Joe? |
| 11:12 |
\o` |
yeah, gotta play that one! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcDy8HEg1QY |
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tenplus1 |
hi rubenwardy |
| 11:13 |
\o` |
Where did ya come from Cotton Eye Joe? |
| 11:13 |
\o` |
so handsome and strong |
| 11:25 |
\o` |
bwt, all that stuff I said to shivajiva was a JOKE. I PMd him before I said it |
| 11:25 |
\o` |
s/bwt/btw |
| 11:25 |
\o` |
just so there is no misunderstanding |
| 11:26 |
\o` |
most of it was a joke. I don't like his pink socks |
| 11:33 |
\o` |
it's a bit like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3kBDtjRtB0 |
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* Megaf |
sneaks in |
| 11:34 |
tenplus1 |
hi Megaf |
| 11:34 |
Megaf |
Hello 11 |
| 11:35 |
\o` |
probably a better version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOMMytOeU1g |
| 11:48 |
shivajiva |
tbh it just seemed disrespectful Zeno, something to amuse yourself with but there's a fair bit of that floating round MT |
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tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
| 11:57 |
* Jordach |
has the 1976 release of Rush - 2112 |
| 11:57 |
tenplus1 |
:P# |
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Jordach |
tenplus1, jesus this was a bitch to play the whole album in sequence in GH |
| 11:59 |
tenplus1 |
gh ? |
| 12:00 |
Jordach |
Guitar Hero |
| 12:00 |
tenplus1 |
ohhhhh |
| 12:00 |
Jordach |
had to play it all one after the other with no stops |
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| 12:28 |
\o` |
I miss her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d4xXvF2ukY |
| 12:28 |
\o` |
:( |
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tenplus1 |
hi nrz |
| 12:30 |
nerzhul |
hi |
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tenplus1 |
hi nathan |
| 12:36 |
NathanS21 |
hi tenplus1 |
| 12:38 |
tenplus1 |
brb, rebooting :) |
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| 12:39 |
tenplus1 |
back |
| 12:40 |
NathanS21 |
that was a fast reboot |
| 12:40 |
tenplus1 |
yup :) got ssdb drive running lubu 17.04 |
| 12:41 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, a copied the Guardians Vol 2 soundtrack to a cassette ;) |
| 12:42 |
Jordach |
I* |
| 12:42 |
tenplus1 |
good tape I hope :D |
| 12:45 |
Jordach |
i have a proper deck now, so yes |
| 12:47 |
tenplus1 |
was so funny during movie where his walkman was destroyed and he got a zune... ehe |
| 12:48 |
NathanS21 |
They still make Zunes. I thought those were dead. |
| 12:49 |
tenplus1 |
they are... that's why it was funny... |
| 12:49 |
NathanS21 |
ohhh. :D |
| 12:49 |
tenplus1 |
he went from one old tech straight to another :D |
| 12:50 |
NathanS21 |
I still have one, but it doesn't work with Linux, so it's just a paperweight. |
| 12:50 |
tenplus1 |
aww, shame... |
| 12:50 |
tenplus1 |
brb again, testing key boot |
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| 12:51 |
tenplus1 |
pah! why is it so difficult to boot w10 from a flash drive |
| 12:51 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, http://i.imgur.com/Y1iRMrQ.jpg |
| 12:52 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
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tenplus1 |
hi DS-minetest |
| 12:57 |
DS-minetest |
hi tenplus1 |
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| 13:01 |
tenplus1 |
brb again |
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| 13:04 |
tenplus1 |
worked that time |
| 13:04 |
DS-minetest |
wb |
| 13:04 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
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tenplus1 |
hi lumidify |
| 13:05 |
lumidify |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 13:09 |
tenplus1 |
o.O erk! the new youtube layout is crappy and slow |
| 13:10 |
DS-minetest |
again a new layout? and again slower?! -.- |
| 13:10 |
DS-minetest |
mean gockle |
| 13:10 |
tenplus1 |
why do they keep messing these things up... |
| 13:11 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, no new layout for me |
| 13:11 |
tenplus1 |
it appears 1 in 5 times supposidly for testing |
| 13:11 |
tenplus1 |
chrome especially |
| 13:11 |
DS-minetest |
because google seems to want to be annoying |
| 13:11 |
tenplus1 |
they cant just keep things simple and easy to look at |
| 13:11 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, this is one of the causes that will kill the tech industruy |
| 13:12 |
NathanS21 |
I haven't seen this new layout yet, will have to keep my eyes open |
| 13:13 |
tenplus1 |
it's quite laggy... |
| 13:13 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, the tech industry can;t stick to a design |
| 13:14 |
Jordach |
look at how long the coke logo has been around |
| 13:14 |
* tenplus1 |
just wants a site he can use without a million popups, ads and javascripts running |
| 13:14 |
DS-minetest |
hm, only new thing i see is a switch for autoplay |
| 13:16 |
tenplus1 |
new autoplay, new header, new stats below video with icons... weird slide-in animations |
| 13:19 |
benrob0329 |
hi tenplus1, Jordach, NathanS21, and DS-minetest |
| 13:19 |
tenplus1 |
hi benrob |
| 13:19 |
NathanS21 |
hi ben |
| 13:21 |
benrob0329 |
What is everybody up to? |
| 13:21 |
NathanS21 |
oh I'm just starting on a brand new subgame. |
| 13:21 |
DS-minetest |
hi benrob0329 |
| 13:21 |
tenplus1 |
building a windows 10 bootable flash drive |
| 13:21 |
benrob0329 |
NathanS21: cool cool |
| 13:22 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: eww |
| 13:22 |
* DS-minetest |
makes further his mesecons music player |
| 13:22 |
tenplus1 |
I know... thankfully it's not for me but a customer :D |
| 13:22 |
benrob0329 |
DS-minetest: Awesome! Is it on a server or singleplayer? |
| 13:22 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: oh, that's good :P |
| 13:23 |
tenplus1 |
also mobs redo api updated, has new mob loyalty flag so that tamed animals can defend player |
| 13:23 |
DS-minetest |
benrob0329: singleplayer |
| 13:23 |
benrob0329 |
To un-split the conversation, I got gentoo installed :D |
| 13:23 |
benrob0329 |
Even configured my own kernel :P |
| 13:24 |
NathanS21 |
ooohhhh, that sounds pretty sweet. Will have to look into that. I'm going to have some mobs in my subgame that I'd like to be able to have defend the player. |
| 13:24 |
tenplus1 |
the group attack feature has been fixed and if player hits a mob then tamed animals will come to their rescue :D |
| 13:25 |
NathanS21 |
nice |
| 13:25 |
benrob0329 |
that's pretty cool |
| 13:29 |
tenplus1 |
brb, booting frm usb |
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tenplus1 |
pah! no worky |
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| 13:31 |
tenplus1 |
hi octacian |
| 13:31 |
octacian |
hey tenplus1 |
| 13:39 |
tenplus1 |
brb |
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cx384 |
hi all |
| 13:48 |
tenplus1 |
hi cx384 |
| 13:48 |
DS-minetest |
hi |
| 13:49 |
tenplus1 |
back larters |
| 14:03 |
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| 15:03 |
DS-minetest |
hm, trapdoors are a nice alternative to sneak elevator as it seems |
| 15:30 |
rdococ |
two words: |
| 15:30 |
rdococ |
travelnet elevator |
| 15:32 |
DS-minetest |
yeah, but that needs a mod that's not included in minetest_game |
| 15:32 |
DS-minetest |
hm, i should see if mesecons can trigger trapdoors |
| 15:34 |
rdococ |
I don't think mesecons are included in minetest_game |
| 15:35 |
DS-minetest |
yes |
| 15:35 |
DS-minetest |
but that's only for convenience |
| 15:36 |
DS-minetest |
you can hold jump and rmb |
| 15:38 |
DS-minetest |
but it's a bit expensive >_< |
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| 16:07 |
benrob0329 |
Hi RobbieF |
| 16:08 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 16:10 |
RobbieF |
hi guys |
| 16:15 |
DS-minetest |
hi RobbieF |
| 16:19 |
rdococ |
hi |
| 16:22 |
Sokomine |
hmm. saplings seem to grow slowly...if at all? |
| 16:23 |
Sokomine |
rdococ: that's right. the travelnets and elevators have the added bonus not to have to load all the land inbetween |
| 16:39 |
benrob0329 |
I think we need real parkour |
| 16:40 |
benrob0329 |
Wall jumping, bracing, rolling |
| 16:40 |
benrob0329 |
Then we can do away with alk this sneak elevator crap :P |
| 16:41 |
rdococ |
that could be implementable in a mod |
| 16:41 |
rdococ |
...if minetest starts giving players VELOCITY |
| 16:43 |
benrob0329 |
We just need a real physics engine too :P |
| 16:43 |
rdococ |
That too. |
| 16:43 |
benrob0329 |
Bullet ftw |
| 16:43 |
benrob0329 |
Or Newte |
| 16:43 |
benrob0329 |
*Newton |
| 16:44 |
rdococ |
if we model all entities as spherical it wouldn't be too hard |
| 16:44 |
rdococ |
:P |
| 16:44 |
benrob0329 |
Heh |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
strafejumping in Minetest |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
how about that? |
| 16:44 |
benrob0329 |
Idek what that is |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HUsdNEaKMk |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
so we can have this in Minetest |
| 16:44 |
benrob0329 |
I know its a Doom thing |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
nope, Quake |
| 16:45 |
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* tenplus1 |
noms |
| 16:45 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 16:46 |
rdococ |
The only way we can influence player position right now is 1) setting it directly or 2) changing the gravity |
| 16:46 |
rdococ |
which makes me sad. |
| 16:46 |
tenplus1 |
hi rdococ |
| 16:46 |
tenplus1 |
+100 for player:set_velocity() |
| 16:46 |
cx384 |
wb tenplus1 |
| 16:46 |
rdococ |
we definitely need that, if only for vertical velocity |
| 16:47 |
rdococ |
can someone get to work on it? |
| 16:47 |
rdococ |
get_velocity would be nice too |
| 16:47 |
benrob0329 |
Unfortunately we can't have proper timing for animations in minetest |
| 16:47 |
benrob0329 |
So the hud/camera effect for say, rolling would be difficult |
| 16:48 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1731 |
| 16:52 |
tenplus1 |
this has to be added before 0.4.16 release |
| 16:52 |
rdococ |
I did hack together a system to update a player's velocity using gravity. I use it for my wings mod. |
| 16:53 |
tenplus1 |
you are basically controlling the entity which the player is attached to... no ? |
| 16:53 |
benrob0329 |
that's laggy as heck |
| 16:55 |
tenplus1 |
yup, did same routine in mobs api to ride/fly mobs |
| 16:55 |
tenplus1 |
*similar |
| 16:55 |
benrob0329 |
(Kek) http://www.strawpoll.me/12947272 |
| 16:56 |
tenplus1 |
Nooooooooooooooo's are winning |
| 16:56 |
benrob0329 |
Loooooooooooooools |
| 16:56 |
rdococ |
Pooooooooooooooo |
| 16:57 |
rdococ |
Yay for the dark side! |
| 16:57 |
benrob0329 |
Foooooooooooo |
| 16:57 |
rdococ |
They have cookies! |
| 16:57 |
rdococ |
Foooooooooooooood! |
| 16:57 |
benrob0329 |
Or do they? |
| 16:58 |
rdococ |
maybe4 |
| 16:58 |
rdococ |
4? |
| 16:58 |
rdococ |
lol |
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| 17:01 |
Sokomine |
i'd rather love to have players follow rails clientside... |
| 17:01 |
tenplus1 |
would be handy.. dont we have getnode clientside ? |
| 17:01 |
Sokomine |
isn't that all something where clientside modding might come in handily? eventually at least |
| 17:02 |
Sokomine |
what's the poll about, benrob? |
| 17:02 |
Sokomine |
getnode is available clientside i think. after all there's the oredetect mod |
| 17:04 |
tenplus1 |
could do same for playerplus |
| 17:04 |
red-002 |
yes csm has get_node |
| 17:04 |
red-002 |
even find node |
| 17:06 |
tenplus1 |
just gotta make sure players are running latest version of mt or it wont work tho |
| 17:07 |
DS-minetest |
(oredetect uses find_node_near, not get_node) |
| 17:07 |
DS-minetest |
hm, does csm have voxelmanip? |
| 17:09 |
red-002 |
no |
| 17:09 |
DS-minetest |
ooh |
| 17:09 |
DS-minetest |
k |
| 17:09 |
red-002 |
csm also has get_node |
| 17:09 |
DS-minetest |
does it have registered_items? |
| 17:10 |
DS-minetest |
i'm asking too much |
| 17:10 |
tenplus1 |
registered items should be global for all mods |
| 17:10 |
red-002 |
bigfoot is working on adding that |
| 17:10 |
benrob0329 |
Sokomine: just something fun I did last night, feel free to spread it around :P |
| 17:10 |
DS-minetest |
ok |
| 17:11 |
red-002 |
it's not going to work like the server-sided version through |
| 17:11 |
* rdococ |
hugs everyone |
| 17:11 |
rdococ |
red++ |
| 17:11 |
DS-minetest |
i've started some time ago to make a waypoints csm (only formspec yet) |
| 17:12 |
DS-minetest |
csm would need a way to store something world specific |
| 17:12 |
rdococ |
wait, red-004? |
| 17:12 |
DS-minetest |
red-004: that was one too much |
| 17:12 |
DS-minetest |
red-004-- |
| 17:12 |
Shara |
Hello all |
| 17:12 |
DS-minetest |
red--* |
| 17:13 |
DS-minetest |
hey Shara |
| 17:13 |
red-002 |
the ad hoc red-*** system is ad hoc |
| 17:13 |
tenplus1 |
hi Shara |
| 17:13 |
benrob0329 |
red += 1 |
| 17:13 |
tenplus1 |
what would be nice is multi-cpu support for engine... then server could handle a lot more easily |
| 17:14 |
rdococ |
red = 003 |
| 17:14 |
benrob0329 |
it'd need to be more modular |
| 17:14 |
benrob0329 |
So that bits could be split off into there own thread |
| 17:14 |
DS-minetest |
red = red:sub(1, 6)..red:sub(-1) |
| 17:14 |
tenplus1 |
true... but separating gfx, sound, mapgen etc. into their own processes would help game in the longrun |
| 17:15 |
tenplus1 |
or even using GPU to handle server control instead of cpu |
| 17:15 |
benrob0329 |
Eh..cpu is probably better for that afaik |
| 17:16 |
benrob0329 |
But dumping more into the gpu if possible would be good |
| 17:16 |
DS-minetest |
red-00: red:sub(-1) returned "3" |
| 17:16 |
rdococ |
red = "red-003" |
| 17:17 |
DS-minetest |
red = nil |
| 17:17 |
DS-minetest |
mwuhaha |
| 17:17 |
rdococ |
:c |
| 17:17 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
| 17:18 |
DS-minetest |
hm, so, it should be a number, not a string |
| 17:18 |
tenplus1 |
ooh, their is a pull for entity sanitize for NaN that would be handy going in... since no real error checking takes plaec for NaN |
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| 17:18 |
tenplus1 |
wb nrz |
| 17:18 |
DS-minetest |
hi nerzhul |
| 17:18 |
nerzhul |
hi guys |
| 17:18 |
nerzhul |
and girlz |
| 17:18 |
benrob0329 |
moving things into glsl and locking drivers to ogl might help with newer (>5 years old) systems |
| 17:19 |
DS-minetest |
so, noone? |
| 17:19 |
benrob0329 |
My computer was built early last year |
| 17:19 |
benrob0329 |
I think |
| 17:20 |
benrob0329 |
idr exactly |
| 17:20 |
tenplus1 |
most players will be using a multi-cpu computer/phone/tablet now |
| 17:20 |
benrob0329 |
But moving things to gpu will help with the cpu -> gpu bottleneck |
| 17:21 |
DS-minetest |
while true do red += red end |
| 17:21 |
benrob0329 |
And you'd need to modularize anyways for that |
| 17:21 |
garywhite |
what did I miss? |
| 17:21 |
tenplus1 |
hi gary |
| 17:21 |
benrob0329 |
The end of the world |
| 17:21 |
garywhite |
hi ten |
| 17:21 |
rdococ |
I wonder if anyone has tried to build a computer system without a CPU (relying solely on the GPU). |
| 17:21 |
DS-minetest |
garywhite: red-NaN changed his name |
| 17:22 |
benrob0329 |
rdococ: the gpu usnt built to manage hardware |
| 17:22 |
benrob0329 |
*isnt |
| 17:22 |
benrob0329 |
So yoy cant |
| 17:22 |
rdococ |
benrob0329, then give it a way to manage hardware. just not a fully fledged CPU. |
| 17:22 |
benrob0329 |
s/yoy/you |
| 17:23 |
benrob0329 |
Then that would be a cph |
| 17:23 |
benrob0329 |
*u |
| 17:23 |
rdococ |
okay, fine |
| 17:23 |
rdococ |
how about a CPU whose capabilities are closer to that of a GPU |
| 17:23 |
benrob0329 |
Intel? |
| 17:23 |
garywhite |
The architecture of the GPU, etc. would not be able to handle the instructions of a standard CPU |
| 17:24 |
tenplus1 |
am surprised that Nvidia havent merged a cpu/gpu like intel/ati yet |
| 17:24 |
benrob0329 |
I'm glad |
| 17:24 |
nerzhul |
Calinou, https://qz.com/981029/a-federal-court-has-ruled-that-an-open-source-license-is-an-enforceable-contract/ |
| 17:24 |
benrob0329 |
We don't need another proprietary cpu chipset on the market |
| 17:24 |
tenplus1 |
do arm own mali gfx controllers ? |
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| 17:25 |
tenplus1 |
hi LazyJ |
| 17:25 |
LazyJ |
Howdy tenplus1 ;) |
| 17:25 |
rdococ |
isn't a GPU good at array programming? |
| 17:25 |
garywhite |
& basically, you're saying about any modern Intel CPU rdococ |
| 17:27 |
Shara |
Hello the LazyJ |
| 17:27 |
benrob0329 |
>licensed under the GNL GPU. |
| 17:28 |
benrob0329 |
Kek |
| 17:30 |
Calinou |
nerzhul: yeah |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
GPL has been enforceable since like what, 1997? |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
tons of people still get away with GPL violations, unfortunately |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
tons of GPL violations are never discovered, too |
| 17:34 |
LazyJ |
Howdy Shara ;) |
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| 17:36 |
tenplus1 |
hi kaeza |
| 17:36 |
kaeza |
hi tenplus1 |
| 17:40 |
tenplus1 |
UdEdwin's multi-dimensions mod looks prtty good... it's the map layering feature I keep asking paramat for :DD |
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tenplus1 |
hi Krock |
| 17:46 |
Krock |
o/ tenplus1 |
| 17:48 |
Sokomine |
rdococ: isn't the raspberry pi what you're asking for? mostly gpu...with a cpu as add-on... |
| 17:48 |
Shara |
Hi Krock |
| 17:49 |
Sokomine |
hi |
| 17:49 |
rdococ |
tenplus1, can you link me to it? |
| 17:49 |
tenplus1 |
hi Sokomine |
| 17:49 |
tenplus1 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16009&hilit=multi+dimension |
| 17:50 |
tenplus1 |
been asking for this type of feature for years now... a way to have mapgen work in layers so make different dimensions |
| 17:50 |
tenplus1 |
granted this one uses voxelmanip, but would be a lot faster in engine |
| 17:53 |
LazyJ |
Mapgens - any harm switching between default mapgens on the same world? |
| 17:53 |
LazyJ |
Other than biome and mapgen edge clashing? |
| 17:53 |
tenplus1 |
the normal(default) mapgen is in play, the dimensions are separated by 800 nodes going into the sky |
| 17:53 |
tenplus1 |
and will be as close as 80 nodes at some points (whch can be changes) |
| 17:53 |
tenplus1 |
*d |
| 17:53 |
LazyJ |
I meant the current selection of mapgens in MT. |
| 17:54 |
tenplus1 |
it uses voxelmanip so I doubt using v5/v6/v7/flat/valleys would make a diff |
| 17:54 |
LazyJ |
Like taking a v6 world and changing the setting to v7. |
| 17:55 |
tenplus1 |
does anyone still ue v6? |
| 17:55 |
tenplus1 |
*use |
| 17:55 |
LazyJ |
I do. |
| 17:55 |
tenplus1 |
o.O |
| 17:55 |
LazyJ |
More specifically, LinuxGaming2. |
| 17:55 |
benrob0329 |
VE servers do I believe |
| 17:55 |
LazyJ |
No world wipes in the past four years. |
| 17:55 |
Sokomine |
er, yes. i usually use v6 (i think) |
| 17:56 |
tenplus1 |
doesnt v6 draw the tree's using voxelmanip, whereas the others place a schem |
| 17:56 |
Shara |
LazyJ: You'd probably get weird mapgen at the points where they switch at least |
| 17:56 |
LazyJ |
v6 may be boring to the current crowd but it has been the most stable for the longest time. |
| 17:56 |
Shara |
I've actually always liked v6 |
| 17:56 |
Sokomine |
the newer mapgens are too..strange...for me in some areas. admittedly i don't run a server and even switched to flat lately in a new world as that makes building the structures i need a lot easier |
| 17:56 |
Shara |
v7 is just weird at times |
| 17:57 |
tenplus1 |
lol, all depends on seed :D |
| 17:57 |
red-NaN |
^ |
| 17:57 |
rdococ |
fractal |
| 17:57 |
tenplus1 |
why is fractal there ? do ppl use that one |
| 17:57 |
benrob0329 |
v7 + floatlands + spacey mod stuffs |
| 17:57 |
Shara |
RC is on v7 and has some areas that are beautiful, then every so often you find something that is just mad |
| 17:57 |
rdococ |
I myself like the valleys mapgen |
| 17:57 |
Sokomine |
i don't like mapgens with extreme overhangs and floating parts. they can be impressive from time to time, but...i usually prefer "realistic". even if it's very small-scaled for that |
| 17:57 |
Shara |
rdococ: Yup, valleys is the best in my opinion |
| 17:58 |
Shara |
That's why I used it on DL |
| 17:58 |
tenplus1 |
he's part way there with floatlands... all we need now is the possibility to register a BASE biome which the other biomes can attach to at different levels in the map... |
| 17:58 |
LazyJ |
Weird mapgen at the switch points doesn't bother me. LG has gone through several code changes in v6. I believe that is where most of the box canyons/cliffs and squared-off, abrupt biome changes came from. |
| 17:58 |
Sokomine |
tenplus1: there used to be servers (one named road?) who used some fractal mapgens. might be fun for an experiment, but...not practical |
| 17:59 |
Shara |
I checked a fractal map once for like.. half hour |
| 17:59 |
Shara |
I don't see the point of it being included to be honest |
| 17:59 |
LazyJ |
As for mapgen preference, my main singleplayer world uses paramat's "Watershed". |
| 17:59 |
tenplus1 |
it's too weird to navigate |
| 17:59 |
rdococ |
I also like large scale terrain |
| 17:59 |
LazyJ |
That makes v7 look mild. |
| 18:00 |
rdococ |
watershed? |
| 18:00 |
Shara |
valleys + ethereal any day :) |
| 18:00 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 18:00 |
Shara |
it just works |
| 18:00 |
Krock |
brb |
| 18:00 |
Sokomine |
flat does have its merits as well :-) |
| 18:00 |
Shara |
and works is what I should be doing, if I ever want to finish that PR |
| 18:01 |
* Shara |
runs away |
| 18:01 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 18:01 |
* Sokomine |
wonders where shara has gone and why there's a wild PR hanging around |
| 18:05 |
benrob0329 |
*A wild PR has appeared! |
| 18:05 |
* tenplus1 |
tosses a git-ball |
| 18:06 |
* tenplus1 |
caught a rare issue |
| 18:08 |
benrob0329 |
Lol |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
>di.fm/classictrance |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
>sandstorm |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
*autistic screeching* |
| 18:10 |
rdococ |
... |
| 18:11 |
* tenplus1 |
likes trance |
| 18:11 |
rdococ |
. o O ( people who use autism as an insult may have autism and self-hatred ) |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
>doesn't know of the autistic screeching meme |
| 18:14 |
red-NaN |
>greentext on irc |
| 18:14 |
rdococ |
>clearly the best insult is your mother |
| 18:16 |
red-NaN |
>gets insulted |
| 18:24 |
tenplus1 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzisLewjHeM |
| 18:24 |
rdococ |
>clearly your mother is the best insult |
| 18:31 |
benrob0329 |
>clearly my mother dishes out the best insults |
| 18:32 |
rdococ |
>clearly your mother is Mrs. Who |
| 18:32 |
benrob0329 |
You lost me there |
| 18:32 |
rdococ |
The COW made a reference to COW Jim at the expense of Bob the Killer COW while Doctor COW listened, befuddled |
| 18:35 |
tenplus1 |
moo! |
| 18:35 |
rdococ |
hm |
| 18:35 |
rdococ |
Imagine a vampire and a human in a room with a big wall mirror. If the vampire bites the human, what happens to the human's reflection? |
| 18:36 |
tenplus1 |
translucency? |
| 18:36 |
rdococ |
I'm ignoring the fact that the human may turn into a vampire. |
| 18:36 |
rdococ |
The point is, does the reflection get bitten? |
| 18:37 |
tenplus1 |
yes |
| 18:37 |
kaeza |
no |
| 18:37 |
rdococ |
Huh. |
| 18:37 |
LazyJ |
I proffer "yes". |
| 18:38 |
tenplus1 |
vampires dont show up in mirrors but there effect on the world around them will, so biting a human you will see the teethmarks and blood until the human turns and becomes transparent over time until they vanish |
| 18:38 |
LazyJ |
The vampire may not be reflected in the mirror but the consequences of the vampire's actions are. |
| 18:38 |
LazyJ |
Though, in more modern terms, the victim will adorn an IRS badge. :0)- |
| 18:38 |
rdococ |
What happens if you imagine the mirror as a seamless portal to a flipped dimension? |
| 18:39 |
tenplus1 |
then it remains in your imagination :DDDDD |
| 18:39 |
* tenplus1 |
imagines the mirror as a huge glassy donut |
| 18:39 |
Calinou |
http://i.imgur.com/LRjEgGn.png |
| 18:39 |
Calinou |
http://i.imgur.com/SQaXhI5.png |
| 18:40 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 18:41 |
tenplus1 |
oh no, my donut is a vampire: http://onthegoinmco.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/IMG_3661.jpg |
| 18:41 |
rdococ |
Vampire mirrors? |
| 18:41 |
rdococ |
Do vampire mirrors reflect vampires? |
| 18:43 |
tenplus1 |
https://www.wattpad.com/90004129-why-vampires-have-no-reflection |
| 18:47 |
Fixer |
----, forgot to start my afk gdb acc |
| 18:50 |
rdococ |
"And last but not least, scatter seeds around your house because vampires like counting them and can get distracted, which will give you time to escape" |
| 18:50 |
rdococ |
Seriously? |
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| 18:50 |
tenplus1 |
lol ahahaha |
| 18:51 |
rdococ |
Well, how about the mirror thing? |
| 18:51 |
rdococ |
kaeza: do you think that vampires could "desync" a world from its reflection? |
| 18:52 |
rdococ |
Making different things happen. |
| 18:52 |
tenplus1 |
maybe they live in the plane next to the living so in turn do not reflect in mirrors but can manipulate objects |
| 18:53 |
tenplus1 |
and can only be seen by beings with pineal glands |
| 18:54 |
rdococ |
What about cameras? |
| 18:54 |
rdococ |
Can a vampire be photographed? |
| 18:54 |
tenplus1 |
cameras only pick up light in the current plane |
| 18:54 |
rdococ |
What if you're on land? |
| 18:54 |
rdococ |
:P |
| 18:55 |
tenplus1 |
lolz |
| 18:56 |
rdococ |
Also, what if you stuff a pineal gland into a camera? |
| 18:56 |
tenplus1 |
ahahaha |
| 18:56 |
tenplus1 |
biological and technological mixes arent so hot right now |
| 18:57 |
rdococ |
What if you manufacture a prosthetic pineal gland? |
| 18:57 |
tenplus1 |
cant be done... |
| 18:57 |
tenplus1 |
the pineal gland is responsible for dreaming, visions, the inner voice of your mind and hallucination |
| 18:58 |
rdococ |
The pineal gland produces melatonin, says Wikipedia. |
| 18:58 |
tenplus1 |
your effective 3rd eye |
| 18:58 |
rdococ |
What if you manufacture a melatonin emitting device? |
| 18:59 |
tenplus1 |
lol, it produces dmt also |
| 18:59 |
tenplus1 |
that's found in almost everything in nature |
| 18:59 |
rdococ |
what if you manufacture a melatonin and dmt emitting device? |
| 19:01 |
tenplus1 |
it's one thing to synthesize melatonin and dmt but it's another to have an electronic pineal gland use them in a way that would allow it to take other wordly photos :PP |
| 19:09 |
rdococ |
What about a human with a malfunctioning pineal gland? |
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| 19:10 |
tenplus1 |
hi DI3HARD139 |
| 19:10 |
rdococ |
hi DI3HARD139. we're discussing the physics of vampires and humans with malfunctioning pineal glands. |
| 19:11 |
tenplus1 |
a damaged pineal gland would result in sleep problems, learning difficulties, mood issues, no energy |
| 19:11 |
tenplus1 |
flouride effects pineal glands |
| 19:11 |
rdococ |
Would it also result in being unable to see vampires? |
| 19:11 |
DI3HARD139 |
Hello | That's an interesting topic |
| 19:12 |
tenplus1 |
since it's been called the third eye and our look into dreamstates and other things like that then maybe... |
| 19:12 |
DI3HARD139 |
More then likely |
| 19:13 |
rdococ |
If you have depth perception in your mind, does that mean you have a fourth eye? |
| 19:13 |
tenplus1 |
it is also really good at detecting light, hence the sleep assist... also when you arent wearing sunglasses it can detect the right amount of melanin to release in the body to stop you burning |
| 19:13 |
DI3HARD139 |
What do you refer to as "depth perception"? |
| 19:14 |
rdococ |
DI3HARD139, two-eyed perception. |
| 19:14 |
DI3HARD139 |
I see |
| 19:14 |
DI3HARD139 |
I would assume so |
| 19:15 |
DI3HARD139 |
Given that you are able to see further |
| 19:15 |
DI3HARD139 |
Into the thoughts |
| 19:16 |
tenplus1 |
it is said that the little voice we use to read to ourselves inside our head originates from the pineal, and when damaged we lose that function and find it harder to learn :) |
| 19:17 |
DI3HARD139 |
Now. What if you have trained yourself to ignore that voice in the head?? |
| 19:18 |
rdococ |
ah |
| 19:18 |
rdococ |
My little voice is advanced. It can play music. |
| 19:18 |
tenplus1 |
it's an extremely hard thing to do since it's ingrained into you |
| 19:18 |
tenplus1 |
rdococ: same :P |
| 19:19 |
tenplus1 |
you ever hold "what if" sessions in your head ? |
| 19:19 |
DI3HARD139 |
Yep |
| 19:19 |
rdococ |
I basically held a "what if" session on this channel a few minutes ago. |
| 19:20 |
DI3HARD139 |
I have had moments when I would walk around in rooms of an apartment that I lived in 12 years ago |
| 19:20 |
tenplus1 |
lol, it's one thing typing and asking other folk, it's another playing it inside your head and imagining the playback liek amovie |
| 19:20 |
DI3HARD139 |
indeed |
| 19:22 |
* DI3HARD139 |
is getting annoyed attempting to get used to his new keyboard. Keeps hitting caps lock instead of "a" and "w" instead of "e" |
| 19:22 |
tenplus1 |
it's strangely fun losing yourself in thought like that :D |
| 19:22 |
tenplus1 |
it's not dvorak is it DI3HARD139? |
| 19:22 |
DI3HARD139 |
Logitech G710+ |
| 19:22 |
rdococ |
Those are definitely QWERTY typos. |
| 19:23 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 19:24 |
tenplus1 |
has anyone ever read any books from Peter F. Hamilton ?? |
| 19:24 |
DI3HARD139 |
Never heard of him |
| 19:25 |
tenplus1 |
he's a british scifi author who writes many great stories with insight into technology and how it progresses from here into the future... |
| 19:26 |
tenplus1 |
and one of those tech is neural nanonics where we literally have a pc in our head which overlays it's functions into our vision/hearing and lets us THINK about typing to other people, reading email, surfing web, ordering taxi/food etc etc etc |
| 19:26 |
rdococ |
Heh. |
| 19:27 |
rdococ |
It would be interesting if vampires could desync a world from its flipped counterpart. |
| 19:27 |
DI3HARD139 |
indeed it would |
| 19:28 |
rdococ |
In fact, in my WIP fictional world, it would allow you to go through the mirror, and actually enter the mirror dimension. |
| 19:28 |
tenplus1 |
in astral projection it's said that the mirror can be a portal into another world.dimension.dream |
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| 19:40 |
Hijiri |
so what I'm getting is that fluoride water is a vampire conspiracy? |
| 19:40 |
tenplus1 |
hahaha |
| 19:40 |
DI3HARD139 |
lol |
| 19:40 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 19:40 |
rdococ |
and toothpaste. |
| 19:40 |
tenplus1 |
flouride is quite bad in many ways for the body, and many alternatives to anti-tooth decay substances |
| 19:41 |
tenplus1 |
are available |
| 19:42 |
rdococ |
see? |
| 19:42 |
rdococ |
vampire conspiracy |
| 19:42 |
tenplus1 |
lolz |
| 19:46 |
rdococ |
hi red-002 |
| 19:47 |
rdococ |
red = 3 |
| 19:47 |
tenplus1 |
wb red |
| 19:51 |
rdococ |
hi red |
| 20:04 |
benrob0329 |
flouride is bad for vampires, did I get that right? |
| 20:06 |
rdococ |
Actually, vampires put flouride into water to mess with our pineal glands and turn them invisible, because vampires can only be seen by entities with pineal glands. |
| 20:07 |
tenplus1 |
heh, yup :P |
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| 20:07 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
| 20:07 |
rdococ |
hi |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
>accidentially closes quassel |
| 20:08 |
Fixer |
something nice for windows users: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39901382 |
| 20:08 |
benrob0329 |
it'd be hard for me to accidentally close my weechat server |
| 20:08 |
rdococ |
Actually, vampires are the real heroes. If they're invisible to humans, then they can't desync the mirror world from the main world, and it won't open a giant barrel of philosophical worms. |
| 20:09 |
tenplus1 |
lol, win10 isnt as secure as ppl think |
| 20:09 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, and now you understand the use of Win 10 S ;) |
| 20:09 |
tenplus1 |
lol yep |
| 20:09 |
rdococ |
People think win10 is secre? |
| 20:09 |
rdococ |
secure* |
| 20:10 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 20:10 |
Jordach |
don't download stupid shit |
| 20:10 |
Jordach |
and use a goddamn adblocker |
| 20:10 |
tenplus1 |
and NOT edge or ie |
| 20:10 |
Jordach |
(plus i forked out for malwarebytes pro ;) ) |
| 20:10 |
rdococ |
and switch to Linux ;) |
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| 20:12 |
Jordach |
and then where's the major game devs |
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| 20:12 |
Fixer |
Jordach: "remote code execution if an attacker sends specially crafted messages to a Microsoft Server Message Block 1.0 (SMBv1) server." |
| 20:12 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 20:12 |
Fixer |
there is no way adblock will help you |
| 20:13 |
Fixer |
nor win s |
| 20:13 |
Fixer |
i'm behind CGNAT, should be safe, from that, but I also configured firewall |
| 20:14 |
Jordach |
Fixer, i'm using Malwarebytes Premium V3 |
| 20:14 |
Jordach |
they put their anti-exploit software into the main software |
| 20:16 |
Fixer |
and look how windows update is useless againts this attack |
| 20:16 |
Fixer |
people got infected before update |
| 20:17 |
Fixer |
literally after connecting to internet |
| 20:17 |
Fixer |
without browsing anything |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
Fixer, it still requires the attacker to know the IP addr |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
and then the local LAN addr |
| 20:17 |
Fixer |
Jordach: just spam it to everything |
| 20:18 |
Jordach |
Fixer, and any modern router that isn't ISP provided filters that shit out |
| 20:18 |
Jordach |
(read: don't run shit in a DMZ) |
| 20:20 |
Jordach |
and it's times like this where MS is vindicated about forced updates |
| 20:21 |
rdococ |
YaY |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
Fixer, >A patch for the vulnerability was released by Microsoft in March, but many systems may not have had the update installed. |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
that line proves that MS *was* right about forced updates |
| 20:21 |
rdococ |
so I'm hearing, windows was phcuked? |
| 20:21 |
rdococ |
yay! |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
people need to learn it's their fault if they don't get fucking the "vaccine" |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
not Microsofts |
| 20:21 |
Fixer |
Jordach: if talking about security only updates - probably, but not for ADS |
| 20:22 |
rdococ |
I didn't get a flu vaccine once. everyone else got the flu. I didn't. |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
Fixer, take that up with the IT industry |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
not MS |
| 20:22 |
rdococ |
Jordach, how is MS incorporating ads into their base OS anything to do with the rest of IT? |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
because they bandwagon'd |
| 20:22 |
benrob0329 |
I'm just gonna go use Linux, where people like updates and security holes are patched asap |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
*cough* heartbleed |
| 20:23 |
benrob0329 |
Which was...gues wgat...fixed! |
| 20:23 |
benrob0329 |
Shitty mobile keyboards |
| 20:23 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, fixed yes, but was there for *years* |
| 20:23 |
benrob0329 |
As was intels NIC vulnerability |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, no matter what shit you do to protect yourself: consumer tech by default is always insecure, including custom modifications |
| 20:24 |
* tenplus1 |
uses wired keyboard and mouse... dont like wireless |
| 20:25 |
* benrob0329 |
thinks he'd rather ditch computers than go back to M$ |
| 20:26 |
* rdococ |
would rather burn his computer rather than put windows back on it |
| 20:26 |
* tenplus1 |
is very happy with playonlinux, wine and steam for gaming now :D |
| 20:27 |
benrob0329 |
Windows: hide and abstract the overly complex system that nobody can figure out or tweak without use of external tools because who'd need to do that anyways? |
| 20:28 |
rdococ |
Microsoft: HANDS UP! THIS IS A ROBBERY! GIVE US ALL OF YOUR MONEY AND PERSONAL DATA! |
| 20:29 |
benrob0329 |
Linux/Unix: teach the user about how the simple to configure system works ubder the hood, use text files to write configurations and do so in bliss |
| 20:29 |
Jordach |
rdococ, yet you already gave that info to FB/Google |
| 20:29 |
benrob0329 |
*under |
| 20:29 |
rdococ |
Jordach, true but I have switched to DDG |
| 20:29 |
benrob0329 |
^^ and I don't post my whole fricking life on the internet |
| 20:30 |
tenplus1 |
a good idea, facebook owns whatever information you enter and can do anything with it |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, benrob0329 i wouldn't give a shit anyways, the tech bubble is about to burst again |
| 20:32 |
tenplus1 |
ooh, whaddya think will happen ? |
| 20:32 |
benrob0329 |
What I share on facebook: memes and tech articles |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
IT becomes a dead industry |
| 20:32 |
benrob0329 |
that's a bit far fetched |
| 20:32 |
tenplus1 |
the world is owned by computers so IT wont die so easily, unless they make the Os and tech idiot proof |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, think about it |
| 20:33 |
Jordach |
how much infrastructure dies when S3 or AWS falls over |
| 20:33 |
benrob0329 |
A lot |
| 20:34 |
benrob0329 |
But a lot of companies self host if they're doing that much |
| 20:35 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, and most bosses want shit there and then |
| 20:36 |
Jordach |
hubris is the only word that describes the current IT industry as a whole |
| 20:37 |
Fixer |
Jordach: there are a lot of places that has no IT bubble at all |
| 20:38 |
Jordach |
Fixer, because it's deemed un-neccesary |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
a lot of companies don't care about IT, don't have fancy web side nor admin team and use stuff like W98/WXP/W7 and don't care about anything much, using webmail and thats all |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
so you end up with little to no IT jobs |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
no sysadmin, no dev |
| 20:40 |
Jordach |
Fixer, people can't disconnect from the Internet anymore, and it's becoming a fucking issue nobody is talking about |
| 20:40 |
Jordach |
the literal monster in the room |
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benrob0329 |
"can't" is a strong word |
| 20:41 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, and yet the best way to put it |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, children now are living indoors without even experiencing what the world is like without a tablet as a parent |
| 20:43 |
benrob0329 |
that's the fault of the parents |
| 20:43 |
Jordach |
it isn't |
| 20:43 |
rdococ |
it's very hard to live life without the internet nowadays |
| 20:43 |
* DI3HARD139 |
is back |
| 20:43 |
benrob0329 |
Oh? Parents should be dictating what their child does |
| 20:43 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, to a degreee |
| 20:44 |
rdococ |
I disagreeee |
| 20:44 |
DI3HARD139 |
for their future or as they are growing up? |
| 20:44 |
benrob0329 |
as they are growing up |
| 20:45 |
benrob0329 |
What the child does for a living is not really up to the parents (not once 18 anyways) |
| 20:45 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, give them choice |
| 20:45 |
Jordach |
but don't take the fucking easy way out |
| 20:45 |
DI3HARD139 |
never take the easy way out |
| 20:46 |
benrob0329 |
Kids should be shown wholesome entertainment (not the crap known as edutainment necessarily) |
| 20:47 |
benrob0329 |
and should not just be plopped down with a tablet and the latest free game |
| 20:48 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, a child is naturally explorative |
| 20:48 |
Jordach |
a tablet strips that |
| 20:48 |
Calinou |
I grew up with a PC in my room since I was 9 or so |
| 20:48 |
Calinou |
it did not make me an evil person, like some people like to say |
| 20:48 |
Calinou |
it's the same thing as first-person shooters in the 90s: people thought players of these games would all become crazy guys, except they're not: they're perfectly normal now |
| 20:49 |
benrob0329 |
Oh yes the "violent video games" thing |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
kids know how to regulate themselves at a certain age |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
it depends on the person, though |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
Calinou, hedonism is the most powerful drug |
| 20:49 |
benrob0329 |
Except its a gosh darn kitten compared to most movies the adults watch |
| 20:50 |
rdococ |
I think that taking your stress out on violent video games could actually help prevent real violence |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
violent movies can make me uneasy, as well as some modern violent games (I played Wolfenstein: The New Order, sometimes it was pretty gory) |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
but 90s violent games are nothing, really |
| 20:50 |
benrob0329 |
"Oh there's a little blood in it? BURN IT WITH FIRE!" |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
what they depict is violent, but it is way too unrealistic |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
rdococ: it's debated |
| 20:51 |
Calinou |
people playing eg. GTA have been shown to be more agressive a few hours/days after playing |
| 20:51 |
Calinou |
and I tend to feel that a bit too, especially with GTA V which feels very realistic |
| 20:51 |
Calinou |
after playing GTA V, I sometimes even felt like I was in the game, while being outside… |
| 20:51 |
Calinou |
this did not happen with the older games |
| 20:51 |
rdococ |
depends how you play GTA though |
| 20:51 |
Calinou |
well, you pretty much have to play GTA V in a violent way |
| 20:51 |
Calinou |
few missions can be done without killing anyone |
| 20:52 |
Calinou |
multiplayer can involve killing quite a bit, too :P |
| 20:52 |
* Sokomine |
puts up a sign "WANTED: npc" (for work in singleplayer worlds) |
| 20:52 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 20:52 |
rdococ |
well, in some cases Mario Kart players have shown to be more aggressive during the game :P |
| 20:52 |
Calinou |
:) |
| 20:52 |
benrob0329 |
Heh, this is true |
| 20:52 |
tenplus1 |
lol Sokomine |
| 20:53 |
benrob0329 |
The non violent games are the most frustrating |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
well, I'm fine with Minecraft and the like |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
or even RTSes which are not that gory most of the t ime |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
time* |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
or racing games :P |
| 20:54 |
rdococ |
except mario kart :P |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
btw, Dirt Rally seems to be on sale |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
but not sure if I'll get it |
| 20:54 |
benrob0329 |
For linux? |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
it's €15, but I don't think I have the time to play it |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
too bad, because it has Linux support now |
| 20:54 |
benrob0329 |
Ooohhh |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
I have Dirt 3 but no Linux |
| 20:54 |
benrob0329 |
I'm gonna buy it |
| 20:54 |
benrob0329 |
Thanks Cal! |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
also Dirt Showdown but that one's very much 7/10 |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
no problem, saw it on Dealsb |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
Dealabs |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
http://store.steampowered.com/app/310560/DiRT_Rally/ |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
game is free until Sunday |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
but you can already buy it |
| 20:55 |
Sokomine |
Calinou: i don't know. the only time i played gta i played it in a diffrent way. i was more intrested in how far the simulation went, where there where inconsistencies. exploring the world was the most intresting part |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
https://steamdb.info/app/310560/graphs/ |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
heh, player graph showing the player base skyrocketing |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
Sokomine: yeah, exploring can be pretty interesting |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
trying out things with cheat codes too :D |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
GTA III had a ton of quirks and other idiosyncrasies |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
*falls down 15 meters, loses 20 health* |
| 20:57 |
Calinou |
*goes leg-deep in beach, dies* |
| 20:57 |
Calinou |
beach water |
| 20:57 |
Calinou |
:D |
| 20:57 |
rdococ |
everyone knows beach water is full of calconasepotisite, which is dangerous to GTA characters |
| 20:57 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, the monster that is caused by technology addiction isn't being treated as a serious problem |
| 20:57 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
| 20:58 |
Jordach |
think about how many kids you find now glued to their phone on whatever social app |
| 20:58 |
Calinou |
there's a difference between being a compulsive user and being an addict |
| 20:58 |
Calinou |
I'm on the computer a lot, since a while, but I would not define myself as an addict |
| 20:58 |
rdococ |
think how many people are discussing the issue of technology on IRC |
| 20:58 |
Calinou |
more like compulsive |
| 20:58 |
Sokomine |
Calinou: i also think that was an older version of gta. it ran on some sort of console some years ago. maybe newer games do indeed make a difference. hard to tell with my non-gaming graphics card :-) |
| 20:58 |
Jordach |
rdococ, because computer nerds can't socialise properly |
| 20:58 |
Calinou |
it's also resulting in plenty of positive things |
| 20:59 |
Jordach |
Calinou, no, that's bullshit |
| 20:59 |
Calinou |
it's how I can write/read English like I do today, it's how I learned programming, it's how I'll probably get my job |
| 20:59 |
rdococ |
Jordach, I have trouble socializing |
| 20:59 |
rdococ |
also, Calinou is right |
| 20:59 |
Sokomine |
but then...people where terribly worried about games like doom back then. and now it's considered unproblematic |
| 20:59 |
Calinou |
yeah |
| 20:59 |
Sokomine |
Calinou: those bugs sound fun :-) |
| 20:59 |
rdococ |
let's get our faces out of the ground and face the real problem: mario kart :P |
| 20:59 |
Calinou |
I played Doom when I was 4.5, but only a bit, I remember levels like E1M3 trolling me (the computer room with secret areas) |
| 21:00 |
Calinou |
I only played it again when I was 17, in late 2015 |
| 21:00 |
Calinou |
(finished episode 1 fully) |
| 21:00 |
Jordach |
Calinou, but using it like your only skillset is a bad idea |
| 21:00 |
Calinou |
then played it more and more until I was a fan :P |
| 21:00 |
Calinou |
now I have all Doom engine games (or almost) |
| 21:00 |
Calinou |
made a small map for fun, too |
| 21:00 |
Calinou |
(not released) |
| 21:00 |
Calinou |
read a ton of Doom wiki pages, too |
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| 21:01 |
Calinou |
Jordach: well, I'll admit it, there's not a whole lot of non-computer things I'm skilled or talented at |
| 21:01 |
Calinou |
when I draw, I draw like crap, when I color, I go over borders (:D) |
| 21:02 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i've began to hate technology now |
| 21:02 |
Calinou |
I wish I could do art stuff but I can't |
| 21:02 |
Calinou |
(very few people succeed in being both a programmer and an artist) |
| 21:02 |
Calinou |
it surely does exist |
| 21:02 |
Calinou |
but it's so rare |
| 21:05 |
Calinou |
did anyone here hear fireworks outside? |
| 21:05 |
Calinou |
I heard some 10 minutes ago, and someone I know (who's in a completely different timezone) did too |
| 21:06 |
Jordach |
no |
| 21:06 |
Calinou |
oh, my dad told me why |
| 21:06 |
Calinou |
thanks anyway |
| 21:12 |
Jordach |
https://80.lv/articles/stonequest-procedural-voxel-take-on-world-building/ |
| 21:12 |
Jordach |
ooh |
| 21:12 |
Sokomine |
for reasons unkown i can't draw with a computer. i wasn't too bad at it back in school with normal pens and brushes. but with a mouse and graphic editors i just don't get what i want |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
I can't draw with a PC either anyway |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
and my modelling always looks like crap |
| 21:13 |
Sokomine |
no, no fireworks here |
| 21:13 |
tenplus1 |
only artistic thing I've done lately is making textures :P |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
…our local soccer team won a match |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
that was why |
| 21:14 |
Sokomine |
aah |
| 21:14 |
Sokomine |
those can be pretty loud |
| 21:16 |
benrob0329 |
I can do modeling, I wouldn't say I'm great at it but I manage |
| 21:16 |
Jordach |
Calinou, HOLY FUCK |
| 21:17 |
* Jordach |
set Stonequest to maximum |
| 21:17 |
Calinou |
better set Terasology to maximum |
| 21:17 |
Calinou |
good for heating your room in the winter |
| 21:17 |
Jordach |
the executeable is 1,051KB |
| 21:17 |
Jordach |
according to windows |
| 21:17 |
Calinou |
procedural generation does wonders |
| 21:17 |
Calinou |
but it's at the cost of CPU/GPU usage and probably load times |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
GPUs can do procedural plenty fast usually, though |
| 21:18 |
Jordach |
Calinou, solid 60Fps here |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
it can be massively parralel |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
parallel* |
| 21:18 |
Jordach |
(on med/high) |
| 21:18 |
Jordach |
30-40fps on Ultra |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
Substance Designer is crazy fast to generate 2K or 4K textures |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
it uses the GPU for that exclusively |
| 21:18 |
Fixer |
Jordach: btw I was having january security only rollup, firewall+router+cgnat probably helped to avoid the problem, patched it |
| 21:19 |
Fixer |
cgnat sucks tbh |
| 21:20 |
Jordach |
Fixer, oh look, on time patching stopping malware? |
| 21:20 |
Jordach |
neverrrrr |
| 21:20 |
benrob0329 |
When I upgrade my gpu, I'm getting an amd card |
| 21:21 |
benrob0329 |
Nvidia drvers suck |
| 21:21 |
Fixer |
Jordach: closed ports via firewall usually helps with this |
| 21:22 |
tenplus1 |
amb/ati opensource drivers have come a long way in linux, they work really well |
| 21:23 |
Jordach |
Calinou, Fixer, tenplus1 http://stonequest.de/ |
| 21:23 |
Fixer |
Jordach: looking at it |
| 21:23 |
Jordach |
Fixer, my RX 480 runs high at 60fps |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
"Ce plug-in n'est pas compatible." |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
:D |
| 21:23 |
Jordach |
so there's no nVidia bollocks to fuck things up |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
(French for missing plugin) |
| 21:24 |
Jordach |
even the blades of grass have those scored thin lines on them |
| 21:25 |
Jordach |
"This makes the final .exe file just below 15 Megabytes (1 Mb client + 14 Mb content data)!" |
| 21:26 |
Fixer |
Jordach: where is singleplayer? |
| 21:26 |
Jordach |
Fixer, *shrug* |
| 21:26 |
Fixer |
it asks for acc and then password... |
| 21:26 |
Jordach |
Fixer, just like MT's system |
| 21:26 |
Jordach |
(no emails needed) |
| 21:27 |
Jordach |
i hear fireworks too |
| 21:27 |
Jordach |
wat |
| 21:27 |
Fixer |
Jordach: it is just a client? |
| 21:27 |
Jordach |
Fixer, basically |
| 21:28 |
tenplus1 |
nite folks |
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Fixer |
Jordach: 40 fps at med settings |
| 21:32 |
Fixer |
Jordach: UI is creepy |
| 21:32 |
Jordach |
wat |
| 21:32 |
DI3HARD139 |
Something is telling me someone is hating on Nvidia |
| 21:32 |
DI3HARD139 |
Imma read chat history |
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Fixer |
Jordach: was hoping it is open source... |
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red-002 |
great my debug.txt is over 200 mb large |
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Fixer |
Jordach: interesting concept |
| 21:55 |
Fixer |
Jordach: impressed |
| 21:57 |
Nathans21 |
You need a cronjob to delete that file every now and again. |
| 21:57 |
Jordach |
Fixer, in tl;dr |
| 21:57 |
Jordach |
innovation only occurs in non-free software, as hard as it is to say |
| 21:57 |
* Nathans21 |
should set that up himself. |
| 22:03 |
* benrob0329 |
slaps Jordach with an open source glove |
| 22:03 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, working for money produces the best work |
| 22:04 |
benrob0329 |
Yes, hired open source development |
| 22:05 |
benrob0329 |
No one said it had to be $0 |
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red-002 |
Jordach, doesn't work under wine |
| 22:14 |
red-002 |
well now it kinda works with about 0.5 of a frame per second |
| 22:17 |
Fixer |
Jordach: btw I can disconnect from the internet, I have tons of books/music/games/video, if someone strikes the internet: 1) Cataclysm DDA 2) Read that fucking Earth History books |
| 22:21 |
Fixer |
Calinou: yeah, a lot of people played doom/quake/carmageddon/gta in 90tees including me, no problem, AND, watched porno, still not a maniac, hmmm, not ISIL member, strange, maybe violent games and porno does not make you evil bastard after all |
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Calinou: GTA III blow my mind when I played it, and war on streets + guns for all made it awesome |
| 22:26 |
Fixer |
also, grandmothers with RPG are the best |
| 22:27 |
Fixer |
when you got high speed & comfy rushing through streets between granade explosions some grandmother decides to literally suicide bomb me with RPG |
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Jordach: "An audio driver installed in several HP laptops contains a keylogger-type feature that records every keystroke entered into the computer into a log file, according to a security researcher." |
| 22:36 |
Fixer |
http://www.zdnet.com/article/keylogger-found-on-several-hp-laptops/ |
| 22:37 |
red-002 |
fun |
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benrob0329 |
Ohh, I have an hp laptop |
| 22:37 |
benrob0329 |
Not running windows though |
| 22:38 |
benrob0329 |
First thing I did was get that crap off of it |
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red-002 |
thats why drivers should run in user-mode if at all possible |
| 22:38 |
benrob0329 |
Or be genaric |
| 22:38 |
red-002 |
then you don't get an audio driver with keyboard access |
| 22:39 |
benrob0329 |
You know, standards |
| 22:39 |
red-002 |
or even better both |
| 22:41 |
red-002 |
who was planning to make videos on freebsd? |
| 22:41 |
garywhite |
Did anyone hear about the newest ransomware attack on Windows-based PCs |
| 22:42 |
Hijiri |
yeah |
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Hijiri |
but I have to go so won't be here to talk about it |
| 22:46 |
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benrob0329: keylogger in audiodrivers, KARL, audiodrivers... |
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Fixer |
POSHP |
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benrob0329 |
red-002: i was, ran into trouble with some stuff |
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benrob0329 |
Went for gentoo instead |
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