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benrob0329 |
Mobile irc clients just aren't as robust as desktop ones |
01:53 |
benrob0329 |
I mean, I can flippen enable airplane mode on my laptop and it'll stay connected (obviously turning it back off again quickly) |
01:53 |
benrob0329 |
But moble clients, pfff |
01:53 |
benrob0329 |
Your lucky if it stays connected whilst your sitting next to your router |
01:54 |
VanessaE |
benrob0329: not to mention they love to disconnect if you switch to some other task for more than 1-2 mins |
01:58 |
benrob0329 |
Anc they don't tell you about it |
01:59 |
benrob0329 |
I just need to make a couple eathernet cables so I can plug my rpi back in |
01:59 |
benrob0329 |
Use weechat-android |
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02:14 |
benrob0329 |
Hi paramat |
02:33 |
benrob0329 |
!ping |
02:33 |
ShadowBot |
pong |
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02:57 |
paramat |
Shara https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1708 |
03:11 |
benrob0329 |
paramat: never noticed hoe contrasting they were |
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03:14 |
benrob0329 |
Ugg |
03:14 |
benrob0329 |
paramat: I think that iron blocks have a bit too much contrast imo |
03:15 |
paramat |
steelblock? |
03:15 |
benrob0329 |
Yes |
03:16 |
benrob0329 |
It looks like steel plating right now |
03:18 |
paramat |
you mean the edge has too high contrast? |
03:18 |
benrob0329 |
Yes |
03:18 |
paramat |
i somewhat agree |
03:19 |
benrob0329 |
I tried to remove it a little while ago...lets just say I can't to textures ver well :P |
03:47 |
paramat |
i'm not too keen on our metal block textures, they look old, dull and dirty, i prefer a clean, modern, shiny look |
03:49 |
paramat |
they're by kilbith, tin block is too, at least they're consistent :] |
03:50 |
paramat |
weird thing is he's not credited for them in docs |
03:57 |
paramat |
i'll update my PR to do that |
03:59 |
VanessaE |
well, MT is supposed to be somewhat rustic isn't it? |
03:59 |
VanessaE |
so "old, dull" might be appropriate |
04:00 |
VanessaE |
at least for steel and tin anyway. |
04:06 |
paramat |
yeah i guess it is somewhat rustic (unfortunately for my tastes) |
04:08 |
paramat |
so perhaps we can make gold clean and shiny at least |
04:09 |
VanessaE |
yes |
04:09 |
VanessaE |
probably bronze and copper too |
04:40 |
benrob0329 |
shouldn't all textures look generally nice though? |
04:40 |
benrob0329 |
I mean, why do I want to build with giant steel panels? |
04:44 |
benrob0329 |
I think I've worked out a system for transitions |
04:44 |
benrob0329 |
If its part of the same scene, half a second |
04:44 |
benrob0329 |
If its a new scene, full second |
04:45 |
benrob0329 |
If its the start/end of a video, 2 seconds (maybe) |
05:27 |
benrob0329 |
!ping |
05:27 |
ShadowBot |
pong |
05:27 |
VanessaE |
ploink :) |
05:28 |
benrob0329 |
Why is it that I have a tendancy to push video editors to the point of previewing at 1 fps? |
05:29 |
VanessaE |
heh |
05:29 |
VanessaE |
well if that's what it takes to get it to render super-quality video in the end, so be it :P |
05:30 |
benrob0329 |
I kid you not, I have 16 gigs of ram, and 16 gigs of swap |
05:30 |
benrob0329 |
Flowblade was using 98% of both |
05:43 |
VanessaE |
wow |
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05:52 |
benrob0329 |
Ohmygosh |
05:52 |
benrob0329 |
Its rendering |
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05:54 |
benrob0329 |
now to have ice cream in celebration! |
06:00 |
benrob0329 |
http://imgur.com/a/SxpTV |
06:06 |
benrob0329 |
Honestly, I pretty much need a video editor with a 2D animator tacked on |
06:22 |
benrob0329 |
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08:05 |
benrob0329 |
Just some random thoughts: |
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08:06 |
benrob0329 |
SCP Containment breach is one of the least optomised, most graphically unimpressive games ever |
08:06 |
benrob0329 |
But the sound design is uncanny |
08:07 |
benrob0329 |
It responds, flows with the environment |
08:07 |
benrob0329 |
Something chasing you? |
08:07 |
benrob0329 |
you'll probably know |
08:07 |
benrob0329 |
event in game? Keep an open ear |
08:07 |
benrob0329 |
It helps bring the game to life |
08:08 |
benrob0329 |
Heck, the ambiant music even blends well |
08:08 |
benrob0329 |
Minecraft also feels "alive" |
08:08 |
benrob0329 |
the way things respond seems somehow "right" |
08:09 |
benrob0329 |
Mobs and players get pushed back when hit |
08:09 |
benrob0329 |
Not enough to make it annoying, just enough for smooth feedback |
08:10 |
benrob0329 |
Items bounce up and down when dropped, as if they are just waiting, anticipating to be picked up |
08:10 |
benrob0329 |
Buttons have a satisfying click, but not all buttons |
08:11 |
benrob0329 |
Only important ones |
08:11 |
* benrob0329 |
tries to think of another game to bring up |
08:14 |
benrob0329 |
idk, its 4 in the morning |
08:14 |
benrob0329 |
Basically what I'm trying to say is that yes, minetest needs the big things out of the way |
08:15 |
benrob0329 |
But time needs to be taken for the little things too |
08:15 |
benrob0329 |
If we want the game to be truly, honestly fun; |
08:15 |
benrob0329 |
It needs to feel like its engaging the player |
08:16 |
benrob0329 |
It needs to feel, alive |
08:16 |
benrob0329 |
this can be done without mobs |
08:16 |
benrob0329 |
But it needs to be done right |
08:17 |
benrob0329 |
Make the game feel alive, and people will play it. |
08:17 |
benrob0329 |
that's all, gnight |
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08:38 |
paramat |
essentially, MT sucks :] (joking) |
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08:44 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
08:44 |
VanessaE |
hey |
08:45 |
tenplus1 |
hi Vanessa |
08:48 |
tenplus1 |
the new leafdecay system does seem to be giving some problems |
08:49 |
tenplus1 |
especially when using default.dig_up() |
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09:33 |
tenplus1 |
hi Krock |
09:34 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
09:36 |
tenplus1 |
is there any reason the minetest.dig_up() function stops nodetimers from working ? |
09:36 |
Krock |
what? there's dig_up? |
09:37 |
Krock |
tenplus1, that must be a custom function |
09:37 |
tenplus1 |
when digging the bottom papyrus it uses dig_up to dig the rest above it... I use this for bamboo stalks but somehow the leafdecay doesnt activate for the leaves at the top |
09:38 |
VanessaE |
did you register them with the leafdecay call? |
09:38 |
tenplus1 |
yup |
09:38 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/moretrees/commit/2967c107d8e90a531ded53357e83ef904c3ea6cd |
09:38 |
tenplus1 |
works fine when I dig the topmost bamboos talk, but not the bottom |
09:38 |
VanessaE |
maybe there's something useful there. |
09:39 |
tenplus1 |
default.register_leafdecay({trunks = {"ethereal:bamboo"}, leaves = {"ethereal:bamboo_leaves"}, radius = 1}) |
09:40 |
VanessaE |
looks right to me anyway |
09:41 |
VanessaE |
though leaves are also in "leafdecay=1" group, at least in moretrees |
09:41 |
VanessaE |
(and "leafdecat_drop=1" for the various fruits and cones) |
09:41 |
tenplus1 |
same, ethereal is backwards compatible with 0.4.15 |
10:10 |
tenplus1 |
increased radius to 3, seems to work ok now but leaves only spawn 1 around stalk itself ?!?! weird |
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10:14 |
tenplus1 |
hi Fixer |
10:22 |
Krock |
tenplus1, apparently the first song I've seen on the infinite jukebox that can wrap around so easily: http://i.imgur.com/bq5f6Sa.png |
10:23 |
tenplus1 |
ooh |
10:23 |
Krock |
that's a real loop :D |
10:23 |
tenplus1 |
havent seen that page in a while :P nice |
10:23 |
Krock |
they disabled uploading songs but the old ones are still kept |
10:23 |
tenplus1 |
must be running out of space |
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10:40 |
tenplus1 |
hi Megaf |
10:43 |
Shara |
Hello all |
10:43 |
tenplus1 |
hi shara |
10:44 |
Megaf |
Hello onety one |
10:44 |
Megaf |
Hi Shara |
10:45 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
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11:03 |
tenplus1 |
hi cx384 |
11:06 |
cx384 |
hi tenplus1 (thank you :D) |
11:07 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
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11:36 |
tenplus1 |
am happy with knockback now :P will be adding to Xanadu |
11:42 |
Megaf |
onetyone, did you fix all incompatibilities of farming vs bushes? |
11:42 |
tenplus1 |
how do you mean ? |
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11:43 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
11:43 |
Jordach |
T+4 seconds |
11:43 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
11:44 |
Megaf |
<ERROR> 2017-04-23 07:44:05: [Server] Item "bushes:blueberry" not defined |
11:44 |
Megaf |
<ERROR> 2017-04-23 07:44:09: [Server] Item "bushes:raspberry" not defined |
11:44 |
Jordach |
F |
11:44 |
Megaf |
When I did those bushes, instead of getting the fruit I get unknow item |
11:44 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2017-04-23 07:41:57: [Server] Megaf digs bushes:blueberry_bush at (-30,1,124) |
11:44 |
tenplus1 |
? famring redo overrides farming plus items only, nothing else |
11:45 |
Megaf |
hm |
11:45 |
tenplus1 |
minetest.add_alias("bushes:blueberry", "farming:blueberry") |
11:45 |
Megaf |
add this upstream please |
11:46 |
tenplus1 |
link me the bushes mod you are using plz |
11:46 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2017-04-23 07:46:22: [Server] Megaf uses bushes:gooseberry, pointing at [node under=-37,0,120 above=-37,1,120] |
11:46 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2017-04-23 07:46:24: [Server] Megaf uses farming_plus:strawberry_item, pointing at [node under=-37,0,120 above=-37,1,120] |
11:46 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2017-04-23 07:46:26: [Server] Megaf uses bushes:blackberry, pointing at [node under=-37,0,120 above=-37,1,120] |
11:46 |
Megaf |
thats a mess anyway |
11:46 |
Megaf |
I remember I had problems with that way back |
11:47 |
Megaf |
but we never finished fixing everything |
11:47 |
Megaf |
tenplus1, is from VanessaE''s mod |
11:47 |
Megaf |
its been almost a year already |
11:47 |
Megaf |
or more. I dont know |
11:48 |
tenplus1 |
plantlife modpack, bushes ? |
11:49 |
Megaf |
yep |
11:50 |
tenplus1 |
so instead of using it's own fruit it alias' farming plus fruits which is messy in it's own... |
11:51 |
tenplus1 |
so I gotta add a check for bushes mod, and alias' for strawebrry, raspberry and blueberry items |
11:54 |
tenplus1 |
ok, farming redo doesnt have strawberries, but ethereal mod does so when running both together it'll use ethereal strawberries as an alias for farming plus one's |
11:54 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/GbJoIHW.jpg deja vy |
11:57 |
Megaf |
what about his mom? |
11:57 |
Megaf |
his mom loves him |
11:57 |
Megaf |
and his sister |
11:57 |
Megaf |
and, his grandmother! |
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11:57 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/dM7YXVH.jpg |
11:58 |
Megaf |
if he was looking at the plane it would be better |
11:58 |
Megaf |
terrible photoshop skills... |
11:58 |
Megaf |
I do better on inkscape |
11:59 |
Megaf |
what I have been doing lately http://megaf.imgur.com/all/ |
11:59 |
Jordach |
>Unfortunately, there's nothing to see here. |
11:59 |
Jordach |
me_irl |
12:01 |
tenplus1 |
Megaf: bushes_classic compatibility added (if ethereal found it'll use strawberry alias, otherwise raspberries, and rasp and blueberries alias set also) |
12:04 |
tenplus1 |
bushes_classic SHOULD have a check if farming_plus is running, if not then it defines and uses it's own fruit items |
12:04 |
Jordach |
~tell paramat http://imgur.com/a/jGt5H |
12:04 |
ShadowBot |
Jordach: O.K. |
12:05 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: i see you subscribe to /r/minecraft too |
12:05 |
Jordach |
or do it |
12:05 |
tenplus1 |
hi sfan |
12:05 |
sfan5 |
when biomes o' plenty port for mt |
12:05 |
sfan5 |
? :D |
12:05 |
Jordach |
sfan5, fuck it |
12:05 |
Jordach |
write a lua mapgen that doesn't suck balls like v5, v7, valleys |
12:06 |
tenplus1 |
is that what that was ??? nice... ethereal has a long way to go :D |
12:19 |
Megaf |
why dont we have a distcc+ccache thing for all of us maintained by us? |
12:19 |
Megaf |
to build minetest |
12:19 |
tenplus1 |
? |
12:20 |
Megaf |
tenplus1, distcc is a distributed compiler, it automatically share the load of compilation across two or more machine |
12:20 |
tenplus1 |
ohh, gotcha :P |
12:20 |
Megaf |
tenplus1, ccache caches already compiled files so you dont have to compile again |
12:20 |
Megaf |
you can make both work together |
12:21 |
Megaf |
the workflow will be almost identical in the developer side |
12:22 |
Megaf |
https://debian-administration.org/article/129/Speeding_up_recompilation_with_ccache |
12:22 |
tenplus1 |
sharing the load would be handy |
12:22 |
Megaf |
https://debian-administration.org/article/112/Speed_up_compiling_software_with_distcc |
12:23 |
Megaf |
and you can set priority levels to it. so it dont eat your CPU when you want to play minetest :) |
12:23 |
tenplus1 |
last night's changelog was over 600kb... mundo changes |
12:23 |
tenplus1 |
glad the fine pointing was fixed with slab./doors |
12:24 |
tenplus1 |
wish the entity unmount changes were added |
12:26 |
tenplus1 |
also find_node_near bool addition |
12:29 |
Calinou |
hi |
12:29 |
Calinou |
back from Godot meetup (which happened yesterday) :P |
12:30 |
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12:31 |
tenplus1 |
wb |
12:34 |
Megaf_ |
thanks |
12:35 |
nerzhul |
players into database is now merged |
12:36 |
nerzhul |
celeron55, can we have TLS in wiki.minetest.net? |
12:36 |
tenplus1 |
hi nrz |
12:37 |
celeron55 |
nerzhul: soon; i did already configure acme-client for one site on the VPS |
12:37 |
nerzhul |
okay :) |
12:37 |
nerzhul |
hi tenplus1 |
12:37 |
celeron55 |
my general to-do list is just like 1000 lines long |
12:38 |
Jordach |
isn't everyones? ;) |
12:38 |
celeron55 |
so roll your dice for where that's going on the list |
12:39 |
tenplus1 |
*cough* https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5622 and https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5255 |
12:44 |
nerzhul |
celeron55, lol |
12:46 |
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12:53 |
Jordach |
>sfan5 is playing CS:GO |
12:53 |
Jordach |
silver scrub |
12:53 |
sfan5 |
no u |
12:53 |
sfan5 |
gn3 |
12:53 |
Jordach |
>not GE |
12:54 |
Jordach |
gtfo P90 scrub |
12:54 |
sfan5 |
ikr |
12:54 |
Calinou |
relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejkHVAgzQ7U |
12:55 |
Calinou |
the comments <" |
12:55 |
Calinou |
the comments <3* |
12:55 |
Jordach |
ayyyyy ahoy |
12:56 |
Jordach |
literally the best presentation and voice i've ever seen |
12:58 |
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13:00 |
Calinou |
Jordach: yeah, always great to see and heaar |
13:02 |
Jordach |
just like Techmoan |
13:03 |
tenplus1 |
hi rubenwardy |
13:04 |
rubenwardy |
hi tenplus1 |
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13:21 |
tenplus1 |
hi octacian |
13:22 |
octacian |
hey tenplus1 |
13:28 |
tenplus1 |
back laters |
13:28 |
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13:34 |
Jordach |
~tell paramat http://accidentalnoise.sourceforge.net/minecraftworlds.html |
13:34 |
ShadowBot |
Jordach: O.K. |
13:47 |
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13:47 |
benrob0329 |
o/ |
13:50 |
Jordach |
hi benrob0329 |
13:51 |
benrob0329 |
Hi Jordach, its been..how long? |
13:51 |
benrob0329 |
5 mins? |
13:52 |
Jordach |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-rfBsWmo0M |
13:56 |
benrob0329 |
DECEARING EGG!! |
13:58 |
Jordach |
OOOOOOH |
13:58 |
Jordach |
OOOOHHHHHH |
13:58 |
Jordach |
OpenShot 2.x for Windows x64 |
13:58 |
Jordach |
MOM GET THE CAMERA |
13:59 |
Jordach |
http://github.com/OpenShot/openshot-qt/releases/ |
13:59 |
Jordach |
OpenShot-v2.3.1-x86_64.exe |
14:00 |
benrob0329 |
ITS ABOUT FRKING TIME!! |
14:00 |
benrob0329 |
heh |
14:00 |
benrob0329 |
I've been waiting for that for years |
14:01 |
* Jordach |
can finally toss the pirated vegas in the trash |
14:01 |
benrob0329 |
Have they fixed the memory leak? |
14:01 |
Jordach |
no idea |
14:01 |
Jordach |
it's a rewrite in QT5 |
14:01 |
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14:02 |
benrob0329 |
If they have, then I can add it to my duck taped arsenal of death |
14:03 |
benrob0329 |
Aka ~5 different video editors, WinFF, Blender, MediaInfo, and Youtube-dl |
14:04 |
benrob0329 |
Btw Kdenlive had a Windows release a while ago |
14:04 |
Krock |
youtube-dl is an _editor_ ? |
14:04 |
sfan5 |
winff is not an editor either |
14:04 |
sfan5 |
mediainfo is not an editor |
14:10 |
benrob0329 |
No, and yes |
14:11 |
benrob0329 |
~5 editors AND a few other tools |
14:13 |
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14:15 |
benrob0329 |
Hi nerzhul |
14:17 |
nerzhul |
hi |
14:21 |
Jordach |
m e o w |
14:27 |
benrob0329 |
meow meow like a cow |
14:36 |
octacian |
How can I light up a specific position without actually placing/changing the node? |
14:36 |
benrob0329 |
setting param1? |
14:38 |
benrob0329 |
it'll be undone on a light update though |
14:45 |
Jordach |
wat |
14:45 |
Jordach |
losing vocie |
14:45 |
Jordach |
blegblegl |
14:45 |
Jordach |
can't ever type3 |
14:46 |
* Jordach |
autistically screeeches |
14:47 |
red-NaN |
? |
14:47 |
Jordach |
i suck at typing recently |
14:48 |
red-NaN |
who is cx384 anyway> |
14:48 |
red-NaN |
? |
14:50 |
benrob0329 |
https://youtu.be/K7Hn1rPQouU |
14:51 |
benrob0329 |
I'm dying |
14:51 |
benrob0329 |
(Of laughter) |
14:51 |
Jordach |
is that NCIS or another one of those shows |
14:51 |
Jordach |
pretty sure it was that writer dude |
14:51 |
Jordach |
(going by memory of the title) |
14:53 |
red-NaN |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU |
14:53 |
Jordach |
>CSI |
14:53 |
Jordach |
thanks quassel preview |
14:54 |
benrob0329 |
Heh...hheheheh |
14:54 |
benrob0329 |
Can I slap Hollywood? |
14:55 |
red-NaN |
youtu.be/y6120QOlsfU is the closest hollywood got yet |
14:55 |
Jordach |
needs https |
14:56 |
benrob0329 |
Needs salt |
14:57 |
red-NaN |
Darude saltstorm? |
14:57 |
Jordach |
DUDUDUDU |
14:57 |
red-NaN |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_storm |
14:59 |
benrob0329 |
(Language) https://youtu.be/xh3Wveg4DMk |
15:00 |
red-NaN |
I though it would be that song by some guy called rick |
15:01 |
benrob0329 |
Heh, naw just a funny movie dub |
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octacian |
benrob0329: How do I set param1? Do you think it'd be suitable for a light that moves with the player to illuminate where he is currently standing? |
15:21 |
shivajiva |
octacian: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=36928 https://github.com/minetest-mods/torches 2 examples of walking light |
15:23 |
octacian |
shivajiva: Yep, those both use the method of placing a node AFAIK. |
15:23 |
octacian |
Works, but I was hoping to be able to do it without changing the node... |
15:25 |
shivajiva |
I just checked and they do use node swap, my bad |
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benrob0329 |
octacian: I'm not sure, id assume it would be done the same way as setting param2 |
15:45 |
benrob0329 |
Perhaps the screwdriver mod |
15:46 |
benrob0329 |
Might be worth looking at |
15:46 |
octacian |
Yeah, I will |
15:47 |
benrob0329 |
node.param2 |
15:47 |
benrob0329 |
perhaps node.param would do it? |
15:49 |
sfan5 |
i'm pretty sure you can't just set param1 on a random node like that |
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benrob0329 |
it'd sure be handy sometimes |
15:53 |
* Jordach |
wonders if Calinou voted today |
15:54 |
benrob0329 |
I have 101 views on my tardis pre alpha announcement |
15:54 |
benrob0329 |
Wtf |
15:55 |
benrob0329 |
that's double my lp videos |
15:55 |
benrob0329 |
Wait, those have 70, 80 views now |
15:55 |
benrob0329 |
but those are months old |
15:57 |
benrob0329 |
that's over half the views of the epicness of etheral in like, less than 1/4 the time |
15:58 |
benrob0329 |
For a one minute video |
15:59 |
red-NaN |
talking about voting isn't the french election or something like that soon? |
16:00 |
benrob0329 |
RIP Logic, 4000 BCE - 2016 CE |
16:00 |
red-NaN |
bit generous there |
16:01 |
benrob0329 |
Probably |
16:02 |
benrob0329 |
then again, my crap vids from when I first started doing youtube have more views than all my videos from the past 6 months combined |
16:07 |
Jordach |
kek |
16:07 |
nerzhul |
http://xproger.info/projects/OpenLara/ |
16:10 |
Jordach |
fuck me |
16:10 |
Jordach |
classic PSX era games native to a browser |
16:13 |
* Jordach |
has motivation |
16:21 |
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16:22 |
* benrob03291 |
is waiting for old instance to time out |
16:24 |
* benrob0329 |
wants the blender vse to figure it's crap out and become a proper video editor |
16:26 |
Jordach |
>expecting blender to do things right |
16:26 |
Jordach |
LUL |
16:26 |
benrob0329 |
Well, it does things more correctly than some |
16:27 |
Jordach |
i know more keyboard combos in blender than i do for windows |
16:27 |
Jordach |
(gimp, aseprite etc) |
16:27 |
benrob0329 |
But like, transform should be combined with base offset |
16:27 |
benrob0329 |
And the compositer should be usable as a vse strip |
16:28 |
benrob0329 |
Or the vse in the compositot |
16:28 |
benrob0329 |
*or |
16:28 |
benrob0329 |
Also, performance |
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16:29 |
benrob0329 |
Right now, blender could be the most powerful video editor money can't buy |
16:29 |
benrob0329 |
But they just dony focus on it |
16:31 |
Jordach |
>blender |
16:31 |
Jordach |
>powerful |
16:31 |
Jordach |
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
16:32 |
benrob0329 |
> confused |
16:34 |
Jordach |
75.6 hrs last two weeks / Blender |
16:34 |
Jordach |
*REEEEEE* |
16:35 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach, you're not making any gosh darn sense right now |
16:35 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, paid blender work |
16:35 |
Jordach |
steams been counting for me |
16:36 |
benrob0329 |
O_O paaaaiiidd? |
16:38 |
* red-NaN |
wonders if it's too soon to make "will it blend" jokes |
16:39 |
benrob0329 |
But the question is, will it blend? |
16:39 |
benrob0329 |
Dadada da da |
16:39 |
red-NaN |
will will it blend blend? |
16:40 |
benrob0329 |
will blender blend a blender blended wil blender? |
16:40 |
benrob0329 |
*with |
16:41 |
red-NaN |
-> #crimes_against_the_english_language |
16:42 |
Jordach |
*REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE* |
16:42 |
benrob0329 |
> excessiveunderscores |
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16:47 |
benrob0329 |
Hi Megaf_ |
16:47 |
Megaf_ |
Heya benrob0329 |
16:48 |
benrob0329 |
what's up? |
16:54 |
Megaf_ |
lets see |
16:54 |
Megaf_ |
!server Megaf |
16:54 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf_: server [--{name,address,ip,players,ping,port} <value>] |
16:54 |
Megaf_ |
!server Megaf |
16:54 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf_: server [--{name,address,ip,players,ping,port} <value>] |
16:54 |
Megaf_ |
eh |
16:54 |
Megaf_ |
the bot here is different, there's that |
16:54 |
Megaf_ |
:P |
16:54 |
Megaf_ |
benrob0329, going for a run in some minutes |
16:55 |
Megaf_ |
I want to see if I can make around 20 KM today :) |
16:55 |
Megaf_ |
Friday I ran 9.3 KM and I was fine. |
16:55 |
benrob0329 |
Wow, thays quite a bit |
16:55 |
benrob0329 |
Id just fall over after a little while |
16:55 |
Megaf_ |
20 it is. It would brake all my records if I make it |
16:59 |
Megaf_ |
I will be with good music at least. Gonna be listening to Daft Punk :D |
17:34 |
benrob0329 |
!ping |
17:34 |
ShadowBot |
pong |
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17:47 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
17:49 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
17:49 |
tenplus1 |
hi Krock :P |
17:50 |
Calinou |
Jordach: yep, I did |
17:50 |
Jordach |
inb4 Le Pen landslide |
17:50 |
Calinou |
votes end in 10 minutes |
17:51 |
tenplus1 |
?? |
17:51 |
Calinou |
we have results in 10-15 minutes too |
17:51 |
Calinou |
tenplus1: French presidential elections |
17:51 |
Calinou |
this is the first time I went voting |
17:51 |
tenplus1 |
ohhhh |
17:52 |
Krock |
Calinou, you should go voting more often |
17:53 |
Krock |
I don't want to see the pen as president |
17:53 |
Krock |
US-bing-bong is already enough for the moment |
17:54 |
Calinou |
I wasn't 18 before |
17:55 |
Krock |
oh |
17:57 |
Jordach |
Krock, you don't have a horse even in the EU |
17:57 |
Jordach |
you're neutral ffs |
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Krock |
"horse"? huh |
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17:59 |
* Jordach |
meows at paramat |
17:59 |
tenplus1 |
wb octacian, hi paramat |
17:59 |
paramat |
thanks for the link will read |
18:00 |
CWz |
i wonder if at any point in time during the long rich history of horse back ridding, did horse ever snap in to when a heavy rider hopped onto it's back. |
18:01 |
* CWz |
googles |
18:01 |
CWz |
ello Tenplus1-san |
18:03 |
benrob0329 |
Hi tenplus1, paramat, Calinou, Krock, CWz |
18:04 |
Calinou |
results are here btw |
18:04 |
tenplus1 |
hi CWz, hi ben |
18:04 |
Krock |
o/ benrob0329 |
18:04 |
* CWz |
hides behind a conveniently shaped candle |
18:04 |
Calinou |
Macron 23.0%, Le Pen 23.0%, Fillon 19.0%, Mélenchon 19.0% |
18:04 |
Calinou |
so, 4 candidates are almost equal, two by two |
18:04 |
Calinou |
also, a candidate has currently 0.0% |
18:05 |
sfan5 |
macron on the same level as lepen |
18:05 |
sfan5 |
fff |
18:05 |
CWz |
Uh, what are you talking about |
18:05 |
CWz |
sounds political |
18:05 |
benrob0329 |
French elections |
18:05 |
tenplus1 |
sodium 8%, invert sugar syrup 16% |
18:05 |
benrob0329 |
Heh |
18:06 |
CWz |
New alt account getting selected for Prime minister |
18:06 |
CWz |
? |
18:07 |
CWz |
Obama was just a reskin of bush, and Trump was just a defected copy of Obama |
18:08 |
CWz |
maybe not, Trump actully did exist prior to the elections; on the other hand Obama, never heard of them prior to him being chosen as an elective guy |
18:09 |
CWz |
this can only mean one thing, |
18:09 |
tenplus1 |
he's a robot / |
18:10 |
VanessaE |
nono, he's from the future duh |
18:10 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
18:10 |
CWz |
No, it means Obama was created in lab and given false history, either that or he was just a nobody |
18:10 |
benrob0329 |
what ide does everyone use for C/++ ? |
18:10 |
tenplus1 |
mousepad |
18:10 |
benrob0329 |
Kek |
18:10 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: german television says on twitter that macron is ahead of lepen |
18:10 |
sfan5 |
benrob0329: gedit |
18:11 |
nore |
sfan5: yeah, he is |
18:11 |
CWz |
Maybe there never really was an US president |
18:11 |
* nore |
is depressed about the results |
18:11 |
tenplus1 |
who won ? |
18:11 |
Jordach |
what's wrong, nore |
18:12 |
CWz |
was a "Trump" elected as prime minister for france |
18:12 |
CWz |
? |
18:12 |
VanessaE |
I know nothing about French politics, except that one of the guys who's running is the French counterpart to Bernie Sanders, and had a reasonable chance of winning. hope he does (or too bad if he didn't) |
18:12 |
nore |
Jordach: well, for the second round we have the choice between a xenophobic president or one that is the candidate of the banks |
18:13 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: CLion, or Visual Studio Code for small edits (in any language) |
18:13 |
nore |
VanessaE: nope, it's Mélenchon and that's why I'm depressed |
18:13 |
Calinou |
JetBrains IDEs are not free and open source, but nothing is better :( |
18:13 |
tenplus1 |
cant you vote for "none of the above" and have new candiates |
18:13 |
Calinou |
(I have a student license, so they're free for me, all of them :P) |
18:13 |
Jordach |
nore, take the one who isn't going to sell everything or privatize it |
18:13 |
Calinou |
they're also Java-based, but they're not that slow on good machines |
18:13 |
VanessaE |
nore: do you have a process in place to oust a bad choice later? |
18:13 |
Calinou |
(though something C++/Qt would likely be a bit faster) |
18:13 |
nore |
Jordach: ehm, that's none of the two I think |
18:13 |
CWz |
Who's Bernie Sanders, is he a bro or a jerk |
18:13 |
Jordach |
CWz, a communist |
18:13 |
VanessaE |
CWz: a democratic socialist |
18:13 |
Jordach |
fucking commies |
18:14 |
nore |
VanessaE: no. that's one of the things Mélenchon wanted to introduce though |
18:14 |
VanessaE |
he's the "we're all in this together, we all gotta pay for it" guy, basically |
18:14 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, yet he owns a audi supercar and three mansions |
18:14 |
Jordach |
:thinking: |
18:14 |
CWz |
So does it mean he is a good or a bad guy? |
18:14 |
VanessaE |
nore: your legislative branch doesn't have something similar to Articles of Impeachment? |
18:14 |
Krock |
Bernie Sanders is the good USA-future that nobody saw |
18:14 |
Jordach |
neither of any he paid for :thinking: |
18:14 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: [citation needed] |
18:15 |
CWz |
VanessaE-sama! |
18:15 |
nore |
Macron is the kind of guy who wants to raise the taxes for the poor people and lower those for the rich ones, to make workers conditions even worse, etc |
18:15 |
* tenplus1 |
woulda voted Bernie if I was US citizen... could see he was for the ppl |
18:15 |
sfan5 |
nore: would you prefer le pen over macron? |
18:15 |
nore |
sfan5: certainly not |
18:15 |
VanessaE |
nore: oh, so like every US republican ever. |
18:15 |
CWz |
wha would Macron do that, is he fucking stupid? |
18:15 |
Jordach |
https://twitter.com/CMSAF12/status/855249202233962497 VanessaE |
18:16 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: a twitter post from a hater? um, no |
18:16 |
sfan5 |
"why not move to europe?" to an american politician |
18:16 |
nore |
CWz: you can say that about 3 of the 4 candidates who had a chance unfortunately |
18:16 |
sfan5 |
:thinking: |
18:16 |
Jordach |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2016/08/10/bernie-sanders-buys-a-half-million-dollar-vacation-home-and-the-internet-cries-hypocrisy/ |
18:16 |
Jordach |
shit rag VanessaE |
18:16 |
Jordach |
from the dems mouthpiece |
18:16 |
red-NaN |
well shit someone said it on twitter |
18:16 |
red-NaN |
must be true |
18:17 |
Krock |
red-NaN, related: http://imgur.com/gallery/NQyUy |
18:17 |
sfan5 |
ï½ï½ï½Œï½‰ï½”ics |
18:17 |
nore |
well, *shrug* |
18:17 |
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18:17 |
nore |
going to watch Ponyo of the cliff by the sea to avoid depression now |
18:17 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: I don't see the problem. |
18:17 |
tenplus1 |
wb ben |
18:17 |
VanessaE |
the man's a democratic socialist, not a communist :P |
18:17 |
benrob0329 |
Ty |
18:17 |
VanessaE |
"the home is 1800 square feet" |
18:18 |
VanessaE |
for fuck sake, my house is 1536. |
18:18 |
VanessaE |
my mom's house was ~2200. that is NOT a mansion by any stretch |
18:19 |
red-NaN |
so did americans have a better choice? |
18:19 |
nore |
we have like 2 candidates accused of fraud |
18:19 |
VanessaE |
red-NaN: they did. |
18:19 |
VanessaE |
Bernie. |
18:19 |
VanessaE |
and failing him, Hillary |
18:19 |
nore |
Macron is believed to have cheated on his tax declaration as well |
18:19 |
red-NaN |
trump has intersting links to putin and is rich as f*** |
18:19 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, and when commisar cletus and commisar jamal come knocking... |
18:19 |
* sfan5 |
puts on a CD with classical music |
18:19 |
VanessaE |
red-NaN: HELL, I would have been happy-ish with any of the republican candidate other than trump, and I'm definitely no fan of that party. |
18:20 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: again, socialist != communist.. |
18:20 |
Krock |
sfan5, nightcore isn't considered as classical <.< |
18:21 |
sfan5 |
Krock: is this classical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kQZHYbZkLs |
18:21 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: look up "Back in Time" (the C64 CD series, not the Huey Lewis song :P ) |
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18:22 |
Jordach |
here's a cat |
18:22 |
Jordach |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-HQh60U0AACx8B.jpg:large |
18:22 |
Krock |
sfan5, the one from Simon & Garfunkel sounds better IMO |
18:22 |
Jordach |
sfan5, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9kteMZUIAACiNP.jpg:large meow |
18:22 |
Krock |
needs voice! |
18:22 |
red-NaN |
even if bernie is a communist he is hardly the stalin apologist kind |
18:22 |
CWz |
Macron is Tump |
18:22 |
Krock |
Jordach, quick, make a MTB pull |
18:23 |
Jordach |
Krock, https://twitter.com/CharweeMonster |
18:23 |
VanessaE |
red-NaN: exactly, but Americans have this illogical aversion to "socialism" and "communism" and any variants of them |
18:23 |
Jordach |
Freedom is worth the price it pays |
18:23 |
Jordach |
best work is produced when you get paid for it |
18:23 |
Jordach |
shitty work is produced when you don't |
18:23 |
red-NaN |
and Putin is |
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18:24 |
shivajiva |
didn't Trump borrow money from Russia when the west wouldn't bankroll him :) |
18:24 |
tenplus1 |
hi Fixer |
18:24 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: in the sense of "communism = the russians = bad" ? |
18:24 |
red-NaN |
^ |
18:24 |
CWz |
That's what you get when you name your president after a duck |
18:24 |
tenplus1 |
wait, isnt he a very rich man... ? why would he need russian funding ? |
18:25 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, yes |
18:25 |
red-NaN |
I mean I don't support commuism |
18:25 |
Jordach |
built his own fortune |
18:25 |
red-NaN |
it doesn't work |
18:25 |
CWz |
communism isn't good for the community |
18:25 |
Jordach |
http://www.politico.eu/article/france-election-2017-russia-hacked-cyberattacks/ |
18:26 |
Jordach |
AYY LMAO |
18:26 |
red-NaN |
you tend to just give power to people like stalin |
18:26 |
Jordach |
AYYY LMAO |
18:26 |
shivajiva |
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/richard-dearlove-mi6-trump-russia-money-2008-financial-crisis-us-election-a7684341.html |
18:26 |
Jordach |
>muh russia |
18:26 |
red-NaN |
but then democracy and capitalism can end up with the trainwreak that is trump |
18:26 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: yes, more or less, or today I suppose people equate it to China rather than Russia. same difference. |
18:27 |
CWz |
China and Russia are best chums |
18:27 |
red-NaN |
good thing trump doesn't own a rail company |
18:27 |
VanessaE |
tenplus1: of course he's rich, how do you think he stays rich? He spends other peoples' money of course. |
18:27 |
sfan5 |
does he own an oil company |
18:28 |
Jordach |
you can't buy someone if they're already rich ;) |
18:28 |
* tenplus1 |
runs for President of the World |
18:28 |
CWz |
red-NaN, becouse it would be a major derailment for the American dream |
18:28 |
red-NaN |
best way to get richer is to already be rich |
18:30 |
benrob0329 |
>political crap |
18:30 |
VanessaE |
the only things I know about being rich is that the rich pay a lower tax percent than I do, you don't stay rich by spending your own money, and what you DO spend your money on is ridiculously opulent compared to anything else. beyond, that, meh. no clue. |
18:30 |
tenplus1 |
I'd only need 1 million to live the rest of my natural life like a prince |
18:31 |
CWz |
prince don't live for very long |
18:31 |
benrob0329 |
At least Bill Gates didn't run for pres |
18:31 |
red-NaN |
so if trump screws everyone over we know it was for his own benfit and not someone else's? |
18:31 |
CWz |
they become kings at somepoint |
18:31 |
CWz |
benrob0329, he'd probably make the windows XP startup theme into the natinal anthem |
18:32 |
benrob0329 |
LOL |
18:32 |
CWz |
Windows 98 memorial day |
18:33 |
CWz |
Using Linux = as bad as drug use |
18:33 |
VanessaE |
red-NaN: more or less, though others may benefit as a side effect. |
18:33 |
red-NaN |
well thats a comforting thought |
18:34 |
CWz |
A lot of people misheard him, he actually said: Let's make America's Grave again |
18:35 |
CWz |
da same thing happened with starwars and "No, I am your father" |
18:35 |
benrob0329 |
*sigh* |
18:35 |
red-NaN |
huh you say a bit under half the population misheard him |
18:36 |
benrob0329 |
Conservatives complain about Obama, liberals don't care |
18:36 |
red-NaN |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD1TVZ47xZY |
18:37 |
red-NaN |
I promise it's not rick ashly |
18:37 |
benrob0329 |
Liberals complain about Trump, conservatives don't care |
18:37 |
benrob0329 |
Sounds familiar |
18:37 |
CWz |
I have a crazy plan, we need to elect one of the core devs as president, that way the presidential salary could go into better use, like feeding the starving sever owners and devs |
18:38 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, conservatives usually have 9-5 jobs |
18:38 |
red-NaN |
Can I haz president? |
18:38 |
CWz |
/grant red-NaN president |
18:39 |
red-NaN |
/grantme all |
18:39 |
Krock |
CWz, what are you even trying? /give red-NaN president |
18:39 |
red-NaN |
/ban * |
18:39 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
18:39 |
Krock |
also, rick astley ends with Q |
18:39 |
Krock |
(in the URL) |
18:40 |
Krock |
or M, if you see this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMyqQWcAuKM |
18:40 |
red-NaN |
/shutdown 0 false why did you people vote for me |
18:40 |
CWz |
<--- confused |
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tenplus1 |
hi lumidify |
18:41 |
lumidify |
Hi tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
wb rubenwardy |
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Calinou |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejkHVAgzQ7U - the top comment xD |
19:08 |
Calinou |
(the P90 video I posted this afternoon) |
19:22 |
shivajiva |
ROFL |
19:23 |
tenplus1 |
Xanadu now has player knock-back added to server for testing, we really need that entity detach pull added |
19:26 |
tenplus1 |
plz plz plz plz devs : https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5622 |
19:29 |
shivajiva |
it's being looked at carefully, need to make sure no errors are introduced by merging it |
19:30 |
tenplus1 |
:3 |
19:59 |
Fixer |
Jordach: what FTB pack you said you played? |
20:03 |
Jordach |
er |
20:03 |
Jordach |
waii |
20:10 |
red-NaN |
oh neat you can set the forum to hid certain users posts by default |
20:10 |
red-NaN |
hide* |
20:11 |
tenplus1 |
ooh |
20:12 |
red-NaN |
I wish there was a way to ignore offtopic |
20:32 |
tenplus1 |
nite all |
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20:32 |
Jordach |
GET SUM |
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20:44 |
shivajiva |
seen how it's ended? |
20:46 |
Amaz |
? |
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20:49 |
shivajiva |
wrong window =) |
20:49 |
Amaz |
:) |
20:49 |
shivajiva |
just following #minetest |
20:49 |
Amaz |
Ah, that drama :P |
20:51 |
shivajiva |
surreal |
20:51 |
Amaz |
Here we go again *sigh* |
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21:08 |
Fixer |
[fuck] |
21:08 |
Fixer |
[sneak can be enabled] |
21:08 |
sfan5 |
i believe you meant [blyat] |
21:11 |
Fixer |
[i don't swear IRL] |
21:11 |
sfan5 |
doesn't mean you can't use your native language ;) |
21:11 |
Fixer |
not my native |
21:11 |
Jordach |
c h e e k i b r e e k i |
21:12 |
sfan5 |
your native lang is not ukrainian? |
21:12 |
red-001 |
pretty sure blyat is russian |
21:12 |
Fixer |
blyat is russian word |
21:12 |
red-001 |
ukrian and russian are not that similar |
21:12 |
sfan5 |
oh thought you'd use it too |
21:12 |
Fixer |
ukraine has poland analogue |
21:12 |
Fixer |
we use both |
21:12 |
Jordach |
neeeat |
21:13 |
Jordach |
people taking SM64 apart byte by vyte |
21:13 |
Fixer |
this is bad kind of offtopic now |
21:13 |
Jordach |
it's minetest, of course we have offtopic when it's a slow day |
21:14 |
rubenwardy |
could be more offtopic |
21:14 |
sfan5 |
its always a slow day isnt it |
21:15 |
rubenwardy |
could be talking about actual completely irrelevant things like sneak |
21:15 |
* Jordach |
keks |
21:15 |
Fixer |
sneak can be enabled via mod |
21:15 |
sfan5 |
snek |
21:15 |
Fixer |
3 lines long iirc |
21:15 |
Jordach |
how about we put sneak in a box |
21:15 |
Jordach |
and push into fucking orbit and leave it there |
21:16 |
sfan5 |
http://i.imgur.com/RO1yCos.jpg |
21:16 |
Fixer |
server owners will decide to use it or not |
21:16 |
Jordach |
the sneak argument needs to cool off in cold vacuum |
21:16 |
sfan5 |
also relevant http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/017/890/426.png |
21:16 |
Jordach |
deport kebab |
21:17 |
Jordach |
Minetest -hub should be the staging ground for new _game content, as well as discussing the engine PRs more publicly |
21:18 |
Jordach |
i don't mean implementing new features, i mean testing it properly |
21:18 |
Fixer |
i hope so |
21:18 |
sfan5 |
yes make biomes great again |
21:18 |
Fixer |
do you have anything to stage in? |
21:18 |
Jordach |
Fixer, it's ***** ***** |
21:18 |
Jordach |
take a guess |
21:18 |
Fixer |
MTG is still a sandbox, decision must be made about the future of it |
21:19 |
Fixer |
will it be Minetest Sandbox / Minetest Survival games... |
21:19 |
Jordach |
in about a year when MCW10 ed catches up, MS will kill it |
21:19 |
Jordach |
(the java one) |
21:19 |
red-001 |
dunno they spent a lot on money on mc |
21:20 |
Jordach |
yes, to make it less of a shithole |
21:20 |
Fixer |
Jordach: har har... someone will write a proper launcher for it or whatever |
21:20 |
red-001 |
surely they know that mods are the only reason so many people still care about MC |
21:20 |
Jordach |
Notch's existing code is so much spaghetti that you can make so many meals to feed the homeless |
21:21 |
Fixer |
i'm more interested in minetest future |
21:21 |
Fixer |
minetest game future |
21:21 |
Jordach |
yes |
21:21 |
Fixer |
it is stuck more or less in sandbox territory |
21:21 |
red-001 |
there is a mythical creature called good code |
21:21 |
Jordach |
but relying on MTG to progress is expecting a dyslexic to win a spelling contest |
21:22 |
red-001 |
no one has yet witnessed it |
21:22 |
Fixer |
(?) split it in two: sandbox (current) and full blown survival (current + mobs + ambience/weather + automation + advanced (?)) |
21:23 |
Jordach |
Fixer, i'm actually going to expand Solar Plains into not only a game, but to fix builtin |
21:23 |
Fixer |
with automation you can finally utilise that ores you mine |
21:23 |
Jordach |
(builtin as in main menu) |
21:24 |
Fixer |
right now we have next new ore - TIN, with Bronze - those are two literally useless metals |
21:24 |
Jordach |
a good coat of paint and a proper functional main menu might do wonders |
21:24 |
Jordach |
why not use the existing auth handler to save a servers password locally |
21:25 |
sfan5 |
<Jordach> a good coat of paint and a proper functional main menu might do wonders |
21:25 |
sfan5 |
agree 100% |
21:25 |
Jordach |
with shit like that you can add a button with a new main menu called rejoin last connected server |
21:25 |
Jordach |
and play last selected singleplayer world |
21:25 |
Fixer |
whats wrong with main menu? i know you can merge few tabs and get rid of some others... |
21:25 |
Jordach |
Fixer, the whole fucking thing |
21:25 |
Jordach |
get rid of fucking tabs |
21:26 |
Jordach |
and use a true and tested button system |
21:27 |
Fixer |
calculatrice |
21:27 |
Fixer |
now this KEKS me a lot |
21:28 |
Jordach |
we had a perfect chance with Kenney, and your moral high ground of "muh FOSS" killed it |
21:28 |
Fixer |
not actually kek but interesting to note some similiratity with word I used in school |
21:28 |
Jordach |
you've had plenty of chances to improve MT, and blew the lot because of neckbeardy FOSS-ness |
21:29 |
Fixer |
Jordach: engine improved a lot, the problem is MTG |
21:29 |
Jordach |
Fixer, it's both and you know it |
21:29 |
sofar |
neckbeardy FOSS-ness |
21:29 |
sofar |
heh |
21:29 |
red-001 |
lol |
21:29 |
Jordach |
goddamn licensing zealots |
21:29 |
* sofar |
cheers on jordach |
21:29 |
Jordach |
go suck stallmans fucking cock if you want |
21:29 |
Fixer |
also, I wonder WTF with SUBgames... we want actual games for minetest, not just subgames for minetest_game |
21:30 |
Jordach |
Fixer, oh look at me, the one person doing something about it |
21:30 |
red-001 |
Jordach, I would watch out I heard stallman has a samuri sword |
21:30 |
Fixer |
Jordach: but will it be included with the game? |
21:30 |
* Jordach |
did get hired to make blender models for dosh |
21:30 |
Jordach |
Fixer, that remains to be seen |
21:31 |
red-001 |
https://i1.wp.com/imgs.xkcd.com/blag/rms_katana.jpg |
21:31 |
Jordach |
about as sharp as the bevel on a CRT |
21:31 |
Jordach |
Fixer, https://github.com/Jordach/Solar_Plains/blob/master/mods/hydrolics/init.lua#L4 |
21:31 |
Jordach |
technic like machines but with a super super quirky power system |
21:32 |
Jordach |
for basic machines |
21:32 |
Jordach |
(more advanced have their own separate sort) |
21:33 |
red-001 |
intersting |
21:33 |
rubenwardy |
I like that this community is so foss |
21:33 |
rubenwardy |
means that you can modify and fix any of the mods |
21:34 |
rubenwardy |
without stupid eulas, or worse - no source |
21:34 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, and it kneecaps potential developers (and commercial improvements) in the process |
21:34 |
rubenwardy |
nope |
21:34 |
Jordach |
see how many fucks are given with Forge |
21:34 |
Jordach |
open or not |
21:34 |
rubenwardy |
I'm not against proprietary subgames etc |
21:34 |
red-001 |
linux seems to get a good bit of commerical support |
21:35 |
Jordach |
and where would the world be without commercial support |
21:35 |
Jordach |
there's a thing called nescessary evils |
21:36 |
paramat |
kenney left because he was generally unhappy with the engine, it wasn't licensing |
21:36 |
rubenwardy |
^ |
21:36 |
paramat |
and MT can be good without changing licensing |
21:36 |
Jordach |
and was that a wake up call to pull your finger out or not? |
21:37 |
rubenwardy |
we're not paid for this |
21:37 |
Fixer |
btw, look at endless sky game, totally open source, sales on steam with nice reviewes |
21:37 |
rubenwardy |
we all have other commitments, and can't invest enough time |
21:37 |
red-001 |
looks like OC got more ips |
21:37 |
paramat |
we work very hard on MT |
21:38 |
red-001 |
doesn't seem to understand the idea behind ignore |
21:38 |
Jordach |
paramat, Fixer money is the best motivator ;) |
21:38 |
Fixer |
if there is limited time, there needs to be more people in MTG, with best mods and modders in deving it |
21:40 |
paramat |
most of us are here because it is not about money and commercial stuff |
21:40 |
Jordach |
paramat, doing it for fun is justifiable |
21:41 |
paramat |
and your ego and superiority complex is amazing, i can't take it seriously :] |
21:41 |
Jordach |
paramat, learn that anger is basically the second best motivator |
21:41 |
Jordach |
get pissed off and you'll find how much it helps |
21:43 |
Fixer |
you are lucky if pissed off person can code |
21:43 |
Jordach |
Fixer, then channel it |
21:43 |
Jordach |
or ask Cave Johnson |
21:43 |
rubenwardy |
there's a difference between pissed off and annoyed |
21:45 |
Jordach |
and like another proverb, use it or lose it |
21:46 |
sofar |
anger isn't a good long-term motivator |
21:46 |
sofar |
short term, maybe |
21:47 |
sofar |
but long term it needs to morph into something else otherwise you're more likely to walk away (ragequit) |
21:47 |
NathanS21 |
5 |
21:47 |
NathanS21 |
sorry, wrong keyboard. |
21:48 |
shivajiva |
negative energy isn't creative it's destructive short or long term imo |
21:51 |
Fixer |
when i go underwater in glass tunnel observing blinking everywhere i'm pissed off and annoyed at the same time |
21:52 |
paramat |
hehe |
22:02 |
sofar |
FYI, for those running minetest media servers |
22:02 |
sofar |
I've made a new media server tool that makes deployment a LOT easier |
22:02 |
sofar |
single program to do all the parts needed |
22:02 |
sofar |
I'd like reviews and testers |
22:02 |
sofar |
https://github.com/sofar/mtmediasrv |
22:02 |
sofar |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=17411 |
22:03 |
sofar |
binary releases are available for linux, but I can probably make other OS builds as well (easily) |
22:11 |
rubenwardy |
sounds good |
22:12 |
garywhite |
media servers? |
22:13 |
rubenwardy |
garywhite, remote media, makes loading faster |
22:13 |
rubenwardy |
media is loaded over http |
22:16 |
garywhite |
I see |
22:17 |
paramat |
can anyone kick iaamfriend200 in minetest? |
22:21 |
Shara |
Seems all the channels need more ops at the moment... |
22:27 |
garywhite |
All the channels? |
22:27 |
garywhite |
I think there's plenty in here |
22:28 |
Shara |
Here is fine. |
22:28 |
Shara |
There was no one fighting in here so far. :) |
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23:00 |
octacian |
What's the difference between default.grow_apple_tree and default.grow_new_apple_tree? |
23:03 |
paramat |
mgv6 appletree created using LVM or new design appletree schematic |
23:04 |
paramat |
schematics cannot recreate the mgv6 appletree |
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23:04 |
octacian |
Yep, just figured it out. |
23:04 |
octacian |
paramat: so, how do I create a schematic with the tree for my subgame? |
23:08 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: Minetest-Gamma is supposed to be a sort of staging ground |
23:09 |
benrob0329 |
Just..nothing has been done with it |
23:09 |
benrob0329 |
One some prs get there ill fire up a server for it |
23:10 |
red-001 |
personally I would be more intersted in something like that but for the engine |
23:11 |
benrob0329 |
An engine fork could be placed there as well |
23:11 |
benrob0329 |
But I'm not capable of maintaining one atm |
23:11 |
Fixer |
holy shit |
23:11 |
benrob0329 |
What? |
23:11 |
Fixer |
FTB beyond start up time is huuuuge |
23:12 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer, I told you to stau away from dope things |
23:13 |
benrob0329 |
They make you kek |
23:14 |
Fixer |
4gb min mem requirement |
23:14 |
Fixer |
start up time like 3 minutes or so |
23:17 |
Fixer |
status line with 80 000 receipes... |
23:17 |
benrob0329 |
What is it? |
23:19 |
paramat |
octacian you want to create a new tree schematic? |
23:20 |
benrob0329 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3961 |
23:20 |
benrob0329 |
*bump* |
23:20 |
octacian |
paramat: yes |
23:20 |
octacian |
For my subgame |
23:21 |
paramat |
ok .. |
23:21 |
paramat |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/saveschems |
23:21 |
paramat |
that's what we use to create all mtg schematics |
23:21 |
octacian |
Thanks :D |
23:22 |
octacian |
ok |
23:22 |
octacian |
I'll mess around |
23:22 |
benrob0329 |
Worldedit works too |
23:22 |
paramat |
once you add your schem as a table, just run the mod in a world and the schem file appears in the folder |
23:22 |
paramat |
worldedit nope |
23:23 |
paramat |
cannot do some things |
23:23 |
paramat |
cannot set per-node force-place |
23:23 |
benrob0329 |
what's that? |
23:23 |
paramat |
it's essential that trunks and branches are force-placed but leaves are not |
23:23 |
benrob0329 |
Ohh |
23:24 |
benrob0329 |
Yeah that's handy |
23:24 |
octacian |
paramat: so how can I get the schematic table? |
23:24 |
paramat |
force-place: replace any existing node |
23:24 |
paramat |
you write out the table manually |
23:25 |
paramat |
it's actually a fast and powerful way to design |
23:25 |
paramat |
copy-paste z-slices for symmetrical trees |
23:25 |
octacian |
Just read through the init.lua, I see. |
23:25 |
octacian |
Also, WHY does the mod depend on "flowers" and "default?" |
23:26 |
paramat |
those mods contain the nodes used in the schematics |
23:26 |
octacian |
OK, I guess I just have to edit a bit. My subgame has neither of those mods. |
23:27 |
paramat |
yeah you would depend on your own mod that contains the nodes you use in the schem |
23:29 |
octacian |
Now, you mentioned that I could just write out the table manually, but also indicated that there's another way to do it? |
23:30 |
paramat |
no other way, but if the tree is symmetrical you can copy-paste slices 1 and 2 to be slices 4 and 5 |
23:30 |
octacian |
Also, what's the difference between stuff like aspen tree, aspen tree from sapling, and mapgen aspen tree |
23:31 |
octacian |
OK |
23:31 |
paramat |
mapgen trees have force-placed trunks/branches by necessity, but this can grief builds when grown from saplings |
23:32 |
octacian |
I see |
23:32 |
paramat |
'from sapling': only the sapling position is force-replaced |
23:33 |
paramat |
i had complaints trees were growing through structures |
23:33 |
octacian |
Also, how do those data tables work? I'm a bit confused especially from all the air at the top |
23:33 |
paramat |
air prob = 0 is used for nodes you don't want to place |
23:34 |
paramat |
they're upside-down vertical z-slices |
23:34 |
paramat |
order is: x rows, increasing in y, increasing in z |
23:35 |
paramat |
you can see the shape of the trees in the slices |
23:35 |
octacian |
huh, ok... |
23:35 |
octacian |
How big is each slice? |
23:35 |
paramat |
you define that in the data |
23:36 |
octacian |
So each slice = 1 row? |
23:36 |
paramat |
it's all self explanatory when you study the data |
23:36 |
octacian |
I'll try :D |
23:36 |
paramat |
by 'slice' i mean a vertical slice, an XY plane |
23:36 |
octacian |
ok |
23:37 |
paramat |
like sliced bread |
23:38 |
paramat |
the whole table runs through all nodes in order XYZ |
23:39 |
paramat |
more info https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12011 |
23:56 |
octacian |
paramat: I got the idea I think :D |
23:56 |
octacian |
Mapping out an oak tree ATM |