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Anchakor |
did anyone get anywhere with making the Cube2 engine work on (chunk partitioned) nearly-infinite worlds? |
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| 15:02 |
Aerodynamic |
Can somebody please direct me to the source code for the latest minetest version? |
| 15:04 |
jordach |
Aerodynamic, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest |
| 15:06 |
Aerodynamic |
Thank you |
| 15:06 |
Calinou |
google helps, mkay? |
| 15:06 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest |
| 15:06 |
Calinou |
engine |
| 15:06 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game |
| 15:06 |
Calinou |
game |
| 15:09 |
Aerodynamic |
I realize google helps. But I dont know the full name of the latest version |
| 15:11 |
Calinou |
and MT's website, too :P |
| 15:13 |
Aerodynamic |
And I need Minetest Game as well correct? |
| 15:14 |
jordach |
yes |
| 15:14 |
jordach |
if you want the default mods that come with the windows builds |
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| 15:28 |
Aerodynamic |
So is github a source code download website or something? |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE |
but it can also supply binaries, whatever it is you put there |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE |
as long as it's open-source, it's free |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE |
I use it to distribute my texture packs and mods |
| 15:35 |
Aerodynamic |
Good idea |
| 15:35 |
Aerodynamic |
I have a new computer so I had to recompile from the other day. |
| 15:36 |
Aerodynamic |
So about how often does a new version release? |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
linus makes new installs and hardware upgrades quite painless now |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
"a new version"? |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
you mean of the code github itself uses? |
| 15:36 |
Aerodynamic |
Yeah, Like not 0.3 to 0.4, But just a new release |
| 15:36 |
Aerodynamic |
New source code I guess |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
you mean of the code for minetest. |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
it varies |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE |
c55's last commit was a few weeks ago |
| 15:37 |
Aerodynamic |
Yeah like 02fb912 to the next one coming |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE |
each time a person makes a new commit, that's effectively a new version |
| 15:37 |
Aerodynamic |
So many developers make new ones. |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE |
(but not necessarily a "release" as in "a stable package you can download and run right away" |
| 15:38 |
Aerodynamic |
Yeah thats what I mean |
| 15:38 |
Aerodynamic |
I mean just a new release.. Availible for compiling and playing |
| 15:38 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 15:38 |
VanessaE |
every new commit is that way |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
follow the instructions in the README and each new commit behaves like a new release |
| 15:39 |
Aerodynamic |
? I loaded up minetest and started it. And the terminal is busy running it but I see no window? |
| 15:39 |
Aerodynamic |
There it is |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
just make sure the cd celeron55-minetest-blahblah goes to the right hash. |
| 15:42 |
Aerodynamic |
Okay good I think my server is back up |
| 15:43 |
Aerodynamic |
Now I need to do all the configurations and stuff to set up admin and all |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE |
that's why I always compile with RUN_IN_PLACE=0 |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE |
no need to repeatedly set the program up, copy my mods+textures back over, etc. |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE |
the binaries end up in /usr/local and everything important sits in ~/.minetest where it belongs |
| 15:46 |
Aerodynamic |
Okay, Now I need to find that admin config file all over again. I forgot in all the chaos of trying to setup my server for the first time a few days ago |
| 15:47 |
VanessaE |
have fun :-) |
| 15:51 |
Aerodynamic |
Ill try lol |
| 16:14 |
Aerodynamic |
Ugh I cant figure it out |
| 16:17 |
Aerodynamic |
Hold on a sec I think I may have it |
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| 16:28 |
Aerodynamic |
Alright good I figured it out. Now all thats left is getting used to the commands and getting the server out there :) |
| 16:29 |
Calinou |
figured what out? |
| 16:29 |
Aerodynamic |
Setting up the admin privs. I had to shut the server down first -_- finally figured that out |
| 16:29 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: why, "it" of course. |
| 16:30 |
VanessaE |
I mean, he said so right there in the first sentence ;-) |
| 16:30 |
Aerodynamic |
You dont have to eat up my grammar lol |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2356 |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
answer |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
:3 |
| 16:30 |
Aerodynamic |
Or writing for using a better word. Or wording lol |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
it's straightforward though... |
| 16:31 |
Aerodynamic |
Yeah I got it figured out. I was gonna update on that but its too late now :) |
| 16:31 |
Aerodynamic |
Before I had my name in the field but I had to shut down the server first. That was the only issue |
| 16:31 |
Calinou |
/help for command list |
| 16:31 |
Calinou |
/help all to list all commands with decriptions |
| 16:31 |
Calinou |
F10 for console/chat log |
| 16:32 |
Calinou |
(can sometimes cause segfaults/access violations when opened) |
| 16:32 |
VanessaE |
F10 for random crashes you mean :-) |
| 16:32 |
Calinou |
^ less common on windows |
| 16:32 |
Calinou |
:D |
| 16:32 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 16:32 |
VanessaE |
interesting thing:\ |
| 16:32 |
VanessaE |
if you spin yourself around (i.e. slide the mouse to the side) and hit F10 while you're turning, it happens far less often |
| 16:33 |
Calinou |
experience FTW, FUCK KNOWLEDGE |
| 16:33 |
Calinou |
~VanessaE |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 16:33 |
Calinou |
:} |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
don't ask me why that's the case, but it is :-) |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
<celeron55> mouse movement isn't related to the chat console, stop shouting random things about shit you don't know about |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
(something's missing to make it look more like his writing style ;-) ) |
| 16:35 |
Aerodynamic |
Is there something wrong with my installation or something? Because my guy keeps slowly looking upwards. |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
Aerodynamic: running under a virtual machine or wine or something? |
| 16:36 |
Aerodynamic |
Na, I compiled it myself |
| 16:38 |
Aerodynamic |
How am I to get my cordinates on this Linux compiled version? |
| 16:39 |
Calinou |
press F5 (debug info) |
| 16:39 |
Calinou |
top left of screen |
| 16:39 |
Calinou |
(X,Y,Z) |
| 16:39 |
Calinou |
<Aerodynamic> Is there something wrong with my installation or something? Because my guy keeps slowly looking upwards. |
| 16:39 |
Calinou |
happens on my debian testing VM |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
doesn't happen to me for some reason |
| 16:40 |
Calinou |
it happens on some computers, reason is unknown |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
(xubuntu 12.04) |
| 16:40 |
Calinou |
doesn't happen natively (windows) |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
but then, I get the crashing bug with F10, and the "server version is different from client version" bug with only 1400 defined items in the game |
| 16:41 |
Calinou |
"only" lol |
| 16:41 |
VanessaE |
yes, only |
| 16:41 |
VanessaE |
you install a mod that provides 200 different items only to use one or two |
| 16:41 |
VanessaE |
stack that up with enough mods to get just those things you need and you can very easily exceed that limit |
| 16:42 |
Calinou |
dunno how many definitions I have |
| 16:43 |
Aerodynamic |
Great, Now when I use "minetestserver" I am getting an error. Wasnt doing that before -_- |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
minetestserver === minetest with --server argument |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
;) |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
Aerodynamic, what error? may I ask? |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
:P |
| 16:43 |
Aerodynamic |
09:43:31: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: Failed to bind socket (port already in use?) |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
rm ~/.debug.txt and run minetest. Start a world and then immediately exit. cat debug.txt |grep "ItemDefManager: registering" |wc |
| 16:44 |
Aerodynamic |
I wasnt getting this before. So after the first time it must be accomanied by an argument? |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
the first number returned is the number of items defined in the game across all mods, including default |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
<VanessaE> rm ~/.debug.txt |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
why a ~? |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
oops, typo |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
~/.minetest/debug.txt |
| 16:45 |
Calinou |
graphical file managers FTW |
| 16:45 |
Calinou |
getting used to thunar is hard :s |
| 16:45 |
Aerodynamic |
Okay I deleted debug.txt |
| 16:45 |
Calinou |
(my debian runs Xfce) |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
Aerodynamic: oh, that wasn't meant for you! that was for Calinou :-) |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
(it won't break your install though) |
| 16:46 |
Calinou |
debug.txt can grow a lot. :P |
| 16:46 |
Calinou |
especially in 0.4; a shitton of stuff is logged |
| 16:46 |
VanessaE |
vanessa rainbird:~$ cat ~/.minetest/debug.txt |grep "ItemDefManager: registering" |wc |
| 16:46 |
VanessaE |
1377 6885 106222 |
| 16:46 |
VanessaE |
1377 items defined in my install right now |
| 16:46 |
Calinou |
lol, your hostname |
| 16:46 |
Calinou |
wc? what's that |
| 16:46 |
Calinou |
:D |
| 16:46 |
VanessaE |
what, you don't like my hostname? :-) |
| 16:46 |
VanessaE |
wc = word count |
| 16:47 |
Calinou |
my debug.txt was 22MB; removed it |
| 16:47 |
VanessaE |
first number is lines, second is words, third is chars |
| 16:47 |
Aerodynamic |
What does my error appear the problem is? |
| 16:47 |
Calinou |
my "best" one was 131MB |
| 16:47 |
Calinou |
<Aerodynamic> 09:43:31: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: Failed to bind socket (port already in use?) |
| 16:47 |
Calinou |
"port already in use" explains it |
| 16:47 |
Calinou |
you're already running some service on port 30000 |
| 16:47 |
Calinou |
tip: "top" for a process list |
| 16:47 |
VanessaE |
Aerodynamic: are you trying to start a singleplayer game while the server is running separately? |
| 16:47 |
Calinou |
^ NEVER do that |
| 16:47 |
Calinou |
can cause corruption |
| 16:47 |
Aerodynamic |
Even though I have minetest off |
| 16:47 |
Aerodynamic |
Its not even on |
| 16:48 |
VanessaE |
ps axuww |grep minetest |
| 16:48 |
VanessaE |
see if it's been backgrounded. |
| 16:48 |
Calinou |
kill -9 *, see if it exists *trollface* |
| 16:48 |
VanessaE |
hah |
| 16:49 |
VanessaE |
don't ever do that either :-) |
| 16:49 |
VanessaE |
less'n you want to re-login ;-) |
| 16:49 |
Aerodynamic |
Looks like it may be. But my friend is telling me the server is not working |
| 16:49 |
VanessaE |
if it is running, you need to use multiplayer mode in your client to connect to it |
| 16:50 |
Aerodynamic |
Of course. |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
localhost, port 30000 should do it. |
| 16:50 |
Aerodynamic |
He has connected to it before |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
hrm |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
firewall? |
| 16:50 |
Aerodynamic |
I can connect to it. The issue is him, And on my previous computer i forwarded the ports. Maybe the new CPU's firewall? |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
"CPU firewall" facepalm |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
Aerodynamic, your internal IP has changed maybe |
| 16:51 |
* VanessaE |
repeats Calinou's facepalm |
| 16:51 |
Aerodynamic |
Ill find that out now then |
| 16:51 |
Aerodynamic |
Yeah looks like it changed |
| 16:51 |
VanessaE |
why does everyone use 192.169.whatever for internal IPs? I always use 10.1.1.x |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE |
easier to type :-) |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE |
er, 192.168.whatever.. |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 16:52 |
jordach |
because 192.168 is a windows address |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
jordach: wrong. |
| 16:53 |
Aerodynamic |
Okay it should be fixed |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
192.168.x is one of a few IP ranges intended entirely for LANs. Windows probably just defaults to it because everyone else does |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
10.x.x.x is another, I forget what the others were |
| 16:59 |
Aerodynamic |
Hmm.. Yeah I need to work with the firewall. Is there a way I can get to that here from Ubuntu Linux? |
| 16:59 |
Aerodynamic |
Trying to do this as fast as possible or else I would just search it |
| 17:02 |
VanessaE |
you know, I've never figured out firewalling in linux, short of using iptables from the command line |
| 17:02 |
VanessaE |
and even then I'm not too good at using it |
| 17:03 |
Aerodynamic |
Should I switch to Windows Firewall for this then? |
| 17:03 |
VanessaE |
no. :-) |
| 17:03 |
Aerodynamic |
It worked last time |
| 17:04 |
VanessaE |
well if it works, I guess use it. but I'm not exactly a fan of windows, so.. |
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| 17:34 |
Aerodynamic |
Can one of you guys please check out my server to see if it works for you guys? Because my friend JUST cant connect |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
address? |
| 17:38 |
* VanessaE |
waits... |
| 17:39 |
Aerodynamic |
Hold on |
| 17:39 |
Aerodynamic |
74.138.121.73 |
| 17:39 |
Aerodynamic |
Sorry I was busy |
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VanessaE |
no, NOW! :-) |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
ok, checking |
| 17:40 |
VanessaE |
nope, no good. |
| 17:40 |
Aerodynamic |
My friend was able to connect ha ha |
| 17:40 |
VanessaE |
what port? |
| 17:40 |
Aerodynamic |
30000 |
| 17:40 |
VanessaE |
trying again... |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
Nope, I can't connect. |
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jordach |
night all |
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Aerodynamic |
Hello |
| 21:03 |
Aerodynamic |
I think I know the reason you had trouble connecting earlier VanessaE, I need to add an exeption for you in my firewall. I Installed a particular one after failing to figure out how I get an exeption for minetest connections earlier. (Turns out I didnt even need it.) |
| 21:03 |
Aerodynamic |
But I need to add an exeption for your IP |
| 21:04 |
Aerodynamic |
Or just turn it off |
| 21:06 |
VanessaE |
ah, that would do it |
| 21:10 |
Aerodynamic |
So what do you do with most of your time here on minetest? Play? Develop things? |
| 21:12 |
Aerodynamic |
Alright I'm headin off |
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VanessaE |
um.. |
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