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00:18 kaeza STHGOM, I pushed a some fixes to wiki mod to support mod security. Feel free to report any issues
00:19 kaeza you will need to add `wiki` to `secure.trusted_mods`
00:20 STHGOM great, thanks!
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00:21 STHGOM so was that the problem i was having
00:21 STHGOM i guess ill see
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00:46 freemint Hi guys it is urgent can you tell me where i need to place .me files to be able to load them a world
00:49 iska if you talking about we files put them in worlds/yourservernamehere/schems  by default
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00:50 freemint using local installation so world-mane instead od wserver name
00:50 freemint ???
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00:51 iska worldname = yourservername
00:52 freemint_ th
00:52 freemint_ thx
00:53 iska np, goin sleep now 3am ;) \o
00:55 garywhite Why hasn't anyone released MT to the Amazon store?
00:55 emunandPC there is no need to
00:56 emunandPC amazon's OS is based on Android
00:56 emunandPC just install F-Droid on there and download Minetest
00:57 garywhite True, but it would get more publicity...
00:58 garywhite Plus if the community wanted to make some money, the Underground program could make quite a bit of money for the devs if the game gets popular
00:58 emunandPC underground program?
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01:00 garywhite Basically, Amazon Underground is a program that devs can opt their apps into that pays them based on how much the app is used
01:01 emunandPC do the devs know about this?
01:01 garywhite Probably not yet. Why?
01:03 emunandPC like you said, this could help the devs out
01:05 garywhite nvm...You have to have in-app purchases to qualify :(
01:05 emunandPC then let's just keep it as a normal app
01:06 emunandPC people could just donate to the devs directly
01:08 emunandPC they should add a bitcoin or litecoin address
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01:22 emunandPC would it be a bad idea to sign up for a developer account and port Minetest for Android to the Amazon App Store?
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01:23 emunandPC or is that okay if i say i am just a maintainer of the package?
01:24 garywhite Have to ask #minetest-dev
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01:42 mootpoint wait so #minetest-dev is for engine development?
01:43 emunandPC i guess
01:44 mootpoint :) they say you learn something new everyday right?
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02:40 mootpoint i have a rather strange question to ask, what color is a gingerbread man in hex or rgb?
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09:50 JamesTait Good mornng all! Happy Thursday, happy Cat Herders' Day, and happy International Tea Day! ūüėÉ ¬†ūüźą ‚ėē
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10:00 DFeniks my minetest hung up and i cant even kill it in any way i know , in kubuntu system monitor says its in disk sleep (whatever that means)  i compiled it in 12 december i think
10:01 DFeniks ouch , and my cat is pulling on my mouse cord and piercing fingers
10:03 DFeniks i dunno wby i even writing this , because i doubt i would write error report or anything . anyway i wonder how to kill that window now
10:17 DFeniks never mind , it died eventually
10:18 Out`Of`Control client?
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10:29 DFeniks im not sure , it was singleplayer and i launched it with DRI_PRIME=1 ./bin/minetest to use my primary video device (i have one of thouse switchable things i dont really sure how its really called) and after it freezed i did sensors and saw that it is off so i thought game already died , but window was still on and frozen
10:31 DFeniks on second thought maybe i should have googled more about that command before use
10:32 DFeniks and this have actually happened twice actually
10:32 DFeniks meh whatever
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11:22 sfan5 DFeniks: disk sleep means it is currently waiting for an IO operation
11:22 sfan5 you cannot kill it during that
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12:59 DuCake Hello - for some reason my server is not loading a certain couple of mods (most visibly, "mobs" and "zmobs") causing a cascade of non-loading mods.
12:59 DuCake The reason for it however I cannot find - all mods are installed, all mods required are marked active in the world.mt and present in the mods folder, I checked the permissions on the folders and did chown -R the appropriate user (the same I am launching minetest as) but to no avail.... I ran it once with "--info --verbose" but that doesn't seem to tell me why the specific mods are not loading...
12:59 DuCake Change that happened previous - I did a git pull on tenplus1/mobs_redo -- but it shows no conflicts and the minetest log reveals that it didn't even try to load that mod ?
12:59 DuCake Env: Ubuntu 16.04 x64
12:59 DuCake Minetest: Build info: VER=0.4.14-dev-fb20b45-dirty BUILD_TYPE=Release RUN_IN_PLACE=1 USE_GETTEXT=0 USE_SOUND=1 USE_CURL=1 USE_FREETYPE=1 USE_LUAJIT=0 STATIC_SHAREDIR="."
12:59 DuCake http://pastebin.com/NAY73nLR
13:00 sfan5 (you could've linked the log entry for -dev instead of pasting that wall of text again)
13:00 sfan5 generally trying to run two mob mods at the same time isn't the best idea
13:00 sfan5 also is zmobs a modpack or a single mod?
13:00 DuCake didn't know it was live-logged
13:00 DuCake zmobs is a mod pack with a "zmobs" mod in it
13:01 DuCake they haven't been a problem before for the 5 or szo months we've had this server up. ..
13:02 DuCake and some mods request/require zmobs so .... OK I'll go edit them to remove zmobs dependency , though I doubt that's it - I would have otherwise expected a name conflict to register. In this case, the mods don't load at all (mobs:meat used to be registered, now not registering at all
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13:03 sfan5 what happens when you move the mods you want to a "worldmods" folder in the world folder?
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13:07 DuCake never come across that mechanic yet - is that literlayy a ./worlds/world/worldmods dir ? will try
13:08 sfan5 yes
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13:10 DuCake oh
13:10 DuCake I think I see it ....
13:10 DuCake mobs_redo and lucky_block seem to depend on eachother......
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13:12 DuCake that did it
13:12 DuCake I can't believe I missed that, apologies for flooding both channel;s :-/
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16:51 IhrFussel Let's say I have a mod called "xyz" now I want to display a JPG image inside an image formspec "pic.jpg" I define in init.lua ... do I have to move the image to xyz/textures? Or does it need to be in the mod directory?
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16:53 IhrFussel Cause right now pic.jpg is in xyz/textures and the engine says "generation error"
17:00 Jordach hint: all textures need to be in PNG format
17:00 Jordach and inside the textures folder
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17:06 IhrFussel Jordach, sfan5 told me the engine supports JPG
17:07 IhrFussel And the file is inside the textures folder...it's at xyz/pic.jpg and in my formspec inside init.lua I have "image[0,6;8,3;pic.jpg]"
17:08 IhrFussel xyz/textures/pic.jpg*
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17:09 DuCake if you have mod xyz and image in xyz/textures/pic.jpg then you should be able to just reference xyz.jpg
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17:09 DuCake the formsepc syntax expects itesms in a certain order though so if it's not displaying check you have added all the parameters
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17:09 DuCake and yes JPG is supported
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17:10 IhrFussel DuCake, it is showing the formspec ingame just not the image..it says error generating pic.jpg
17:10 DuCake that said I know this holds for the form background.... not particularly tested individual items but I believe it should follow similarly
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17:12 IhrFussel But I see a placeholder image (various colors)
17:12 DuCake try background[x,y;x2,y2;texturename.jpg]
17:12 DuCake try background[x,y;w,h;texturename.jpg] rather
17:13 IhrFussel DuCake, is background[] the same as image[]?
17:13 DuCake background sets the background of the form
17:13 DuCake iI haven't played around wmuch with formspecs in a while, but this may or may not help https://github.com/taikedz/minetes‚Äčt-formspeccer/blob/master/form.lua
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17:54 IhrFussel Nope still doesn't work...it downloads the image but doesn't display it "error generating image"
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18:08 garywhite Take a look at this guys https://forum.minetest.net/v‚Äčiewtopic.php?f=3&t=16045
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18:13 twoelk that shuold probably be linked to all them similar discussions that have sprung up over the years
18:14 garywhite They said about adding mesecons to minetest_game, but I said that would cause a massive increase in lag and in resource usage, especially on lower-end systems
18:14 twoelk in the end most list all the stuff that one would expect in a mc clone
18:15 IhrFussel garywhite, I don't see how the devs can think it's fine that torches make cheating possible...have no air left underwater? Just place a torch and the water is gone
18:15 twoelk that's not a bug, that is and always has been a feature
18:16 IhrFussel Feature? It's a VERY weird behavior and most people would see it as bug I'm sure
18:16 twoelk you use torches and papyrus (and slabs) to do stuff under water
18:18 IhrFussel The devs could add other items for that stuff...items that actually remove water in a senseful way
18:18 mootpoint i use torches to clear out underwater domes, well, before we got the scaffolding mod
18:18 * twoelk awaits for spongebob to appear
18:19 mootpoint ihrFussel: there was a sponge mod i saw a while back , but i dont think the devs would like to put that into default
18:19 * garywhite decides to just leave this conversation to mootpoint, twoelk & IhrFussel
18:20 mootpoint garywhite: you started it get back in here!
18:20 garywhite Um I said about mesecons not being able to go into minetest_game cause of lag, Ihr started the torch conversation
18:21 twoelk I find the wheat-flour-seeds complex or the iron-steel-bronze enigma more disturbing for my version of percieved reality in a videogame
18:21 IhrFussel mootpoint, doesn't have to be a sponge, there are a lot of things that are made to remove/reduce water, but yeah the devs only add the most barebone contents
18:21 agaran good afternoon
18:21 mootpoint what is the wheat-flour-seeds complex and the iron-steel-bronze enigma?
18:21 twoelk well that was the idea - keep the base game simple
18:22 mootpoint ihrFussel: i like using scaffolding, you can breath underwater, you can almost completely see through it, and it breaks in one hit
18:23 twoelk ingame you make flour from bushels of cut wheat and seeds drop randomly when harvesting
18:23 IhrFussel I don't think adding a few more items to default that make sense would make the mod heavy
18:24 mootpoint i dont either, however, the heaviness was the suggestion of making mesecons default, that would be way to much for just the vanilla
18:24 IhrFussel We are not talking about ABMs, animations etc
18:24 twoelk and bronze is harder than iron
18:24 IhrFussel At least not when it's about removing water*
18:25 mootpoint twoelk: on Fozland we have a threshing floor that you get seeds from and a mill to grind seeds into flour. that makes a whole lot more sense than the default.. however we still get the seed drops from wheat. also i dont use bronze often so dont have much input on that
18:25 twoelk I don't think much should be added to mt-game in the near future but rather the existing gameplay and balance reorganized and tweaked
18:26 IhrFussel mootpoint, no I agree there...mesecons should not be default cause they really cause LOTS of lag...but a simple node/item without timers doesn't
18:26 twoelk yeah, I think WildesLand also has a better system regarding wheat
18:27 mootpoint ihrFussel: what were we arguing about again? just kidding... but seriously, what item do you suggest to remove water that would be as fast and as cheap as torches
18:27 * twoelk makes a note to visit Fozland
18:28 mootpoint twoelk: if it helps you can earn fly after 60 days :)
18:28 IhrFussel mootpoint, maybe not an item to remove water but rather one that lets you breath underwater in a way
18:28 twoelk I guess the point is some people consider it wrong to be easy to replace water
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18:29 mootpoint well its not that easy, since water replicates, you have to fill the entire are with whatever node, then remove
18:29 IhrFussel I'm thinking about a "tool" that has uses
18:29 twoelk hehe, nope, mootpoint, wont have that much time for a single server, all them others would miss me
18:29 mootpoint we had a discussion about adding a mod called gillyweed, from the harry potter series, which would add a plant that lets you breathe underwater
18:30 mootpoint twoelk, 60 days account age, 8 hours play time
18:30 twoelk there is a scuba mod somewhere
18:30 mootpoint wasnt the scuba mod buggy or was it fixed and i didnt see it?
18:30 twoelk oops, never used it - I love using torches and papyrus
18:31 twoelk and recently slabs and pillars
18:35 mootpoint ill make a note to look at the scuba mod, its over 3 years old maybe i can polish it up enough that we could stop using torches
18:37 mootpoint all right well its off to work with me :) yall have a good evening
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18:55 sfan5 IhrFussel: does it work when you convert it to PNG?
18:55 sfan5 if yes that's a bug
18:55 sfan5 if not something else is wrong
18:56 IhrFussel sfan5, do you know some command line tool for Ubuntu that can convert JPG to PNG?
18:56 sfan5 convert
18:56 agaran IhrFussel: if you have imagemagick installed, then 'convert'
18:56 sfan5 (yes its called that)
19:00 IhrFussel How should I use it? the man page of convert is full of options
19:01 emuPhone you could use gimp to convert image files
19:02 agaran convert foo.png foo.jpg I think..
19:05 IhrFussel agaran, I think it worked..it copies and converts right?
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19:07 agaran IhrFussel: it converts simply leaving source intact
19:07 agaran you can try file foo.png and foo.jpg
19:07 agaran or identify foo.png, identify foo.jpg
19:07 agaran (identify comes with ImageMagick too)
19:08 IhrFussel agaran, the PNG one is FIVE times larger than the JPG file o.o
19:11 agaran well PNG isn't lossy format as far as I know, jpg is lossy
19:11 est31 yeah
19:11 agaran also it uses different palette width too, png can go up to 48bit one iirc
19:11 est31 use PNG instead of jpeg
19:11 est31 jpeg is not good for a game like minetest
19:11 IhrFussel But the image adds 3 MB to the mods file size now...
19:12 agaran what resolution it is then?
19:12 IhrFussel How do I see the resolution? identify?
19:13 agaran yes
19:14 IhrFussel PNG 1920x1280 1920x1280+0+0 8-bit DirectClass 3.334MB
19:14 IhrFussel I need a command to change the resolution I guess...
19:15 garywhite What about Bitmap?
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19:17 IhrFussel convert -resample gemetry?
19:17 IhrFussel geometry* I don't know how to write the geometry values
19:20 IhrFussel convert gives me too many options... -resize -sample -resample.....
19:21 agaran IhrFussel: what is that image?
19:22 IhrFussel agaran, a Christmas pic supposed to be shown on login
19:22 agaran oh, I thought it is some public mod so I could help with resize
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19:22 agaran I'd go either for convert -resize or use gimp to do work
19:24 IhrFussel agaran, so just convert pic.png -resize 50% ?
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19:24 IhrFussel Or even 25%?
19:27 garywhite Hello DuCake
19:27 DuCake hello garywhite
19:29 IhrFussel Seems like it worked: PNG 480x320 480x320+0+0 8-bit DirectClass 238KB
19:33 IhrFussel Here is the exact error when using the JPG file: Could not load image while creating texture
19:34 IhrFussel I'll test it with the PNG file as soon as my server isn't full of players anymore
19:36 twoelk hm, I use a jpg as background in the news mod
19:38 IhrFussel twoelk, just to make sure: Your file is inside the textures folder of your mod? And you define the form inside init.lua as "image[X,Y;W,H;image.jpg]" ?
19:38 twoelk uhm
19:38 twoelk formspec = formspec.."background[-0.22,-0.6‚Äč0;13,11.3;news_background.jpg]"
19:39 IhrFussel And news_background.jpg is in textures folder?
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19:40 twoelk yep
19:40 IhrFussel wait...does the image name HAVE TO contain the mod name?
19:40 VanessaE it's highly advised.
19:42 IhrFussel Okay I renamed it now
19:43 DuCake it doesn't functionally have to; as i understand it's a way to avoid name clashes...
19:43 DuCake namespacing
19:43 VanessaE basically that, yes
19:44 IhrFussel But do I use background[] even if I want the image to be in the foreground?
19:44 VanessaE that's how it works for formspecs more or less. it's the "background" that goes behind other widgets
19:45 VanessaE look at signs_lib's text entry formspec for an example
19:45 IhrFussel VanessaE, but smartshop mod uses image[] for item display and it works correctly
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19:47 IhrFussel What i want is an image that is only displayed below some other text form so I thought image[] would be better for that task
19:47 twoelk looks like this ingame blob:https://imgur.com/b4b3d7a0-‚Äč7e1e-45d0-946f-05c275e5e66e or rather used to as I have changed the splashscreen since
19:49 twoelk https://i.imgur.com/79N3KMx.jpg oops
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19:50 twoelk as you can clearly see at the top, a badly shrunk jpg
19:51 twoelk artifacts all over the place
19:53 DuCake ihrfussel i can imagine, you can make a large formspec, add a label around 1,1 and then just load your image as "background"
19:53 twoelk that's how the info mod does it
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19:58 twoelk I used the news mod from here: https://github.com/Bremaweb/news
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20:00 twoelk pff not my linking day today ; wrong link it seems
20:01 twoelk https://github.com/MinetestForFun/serve‚Äčr-minetestforfun/tree/master/mods/news thats the one
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20:21 IhrFussel twoelk, PNG file works so I guess it's a bug
20:23 twoelk hm, maybe a new bug as I use that mod on my Isarnho server which runs an old mt-0414version
20:24 twoelk (server has not run for long for some time now)
20:24 IhrFussel My server runs 0.4.14-dev from Oct
20:25 octacian from Oct? lol who's Oct?
20:25 twoelk some guy with too many arms?
20:25 octacian :rotfl:
20:25 octacian (not)
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20:26 octacian seriously, who's Oct?
20:26 twoelk or, using old roman tradition; the eighth sibling born
20:27 twoelk Juno and Julius have probably shifted the eighth month to tenth though - so that doesn't fit anymore
20:29 octacian wuh?
20:29 octacian ok, I do know my history, but just wuh?
20:29 Amaz That is a shame twoelk. It can be confusing, with the old seventh month as the new ninth, and so forth.
20:30 * twoelk is bored at office so he might be talking/typing rubish
20:30 Amaz Nah, not at all. It all makes perfect sense ;)
20:32 emuPhone Oct is not a name, it's a shorter way of saying octopus
20:32 octacian ok, now, WHAT?
20:32 emuPhone he got his server from an octopus
20:32 octacian so, IhrFussel got his server from an octopus..
20:32 octacian ok, now, I AM CONFUSED. lol
20:33 emuPhone octopi are extremely smart
20:33 emuPhone they have created waterproof computers
20:33 twoelk and they got their hands in a lot of things
20:33 emuPhone and they tap into the internet lines in the sea
20:33 emuPhone and downloaded minetest
20:33 twoelk they simply got more- er--- arms
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20:34 IhrFussel The octopus built it by "hand" :P
20:34 octacian ok, nvm.
20:35 * twoelk suspects Cthulhu might be behind this
20:35 emuPhone they compiled it by seaource
20:36 IhrFussel twoelk, you didn't visit my server since...Oct xD
20:36 Amaz xD
20:36 twoelk really?
20:37 IhrFussel Since octopus took over
20:38 IhrFussel Yeah I added quite a few mods in that time plus many new commands
20:40 twoelk I think the last thing I did was fix some stuff of the path and hut next to my house and wondering wether I should look for new land as  all my nieghbors built rather close
20:40 twoelk the place has become somewhat crowded
20:41 IhrFussel twoelk, we built an entirely new Spawn area that just opened today...you'd surely find an empty place for some building xP
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20:42 * twoelk can't find the song the octopus sang while building the raft in Misty The Mischievous Mermaid
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20:51 IhrFussel twoelk, I also improved the level up messages...now all level ups are merged into a single message and it will appear MAX once per 5 minutes
20:52 twoelk ah, I remember that spaming chat
20:54 IhrFussel And I added a command to hide/show player messages
20:55 IhrFussel And another that enables "moon physics" and lets you jump 20 nodes high
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20:57 agaran Hmm, moon physics sounds fun, do you need airtight suit to breathe too?
20:58 IhrFussel Lol haha...no it's just the way people jump that's modified but it's fun
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20:59 agaran and then, 'mare vaporum' 'mare imbirum' ?;)
20:59 IhrFussel agaran, falling 200 nodes without any damage :D
20:59 * twoelk finds out the singer of Ocky's song was also the voice actor for the Daleks in Dr.Who
21:00 agaran IhrFussel :) sounds like fun
21:01 IhrFussel agaran, you didn't visit in a while either ._.
21:01 agaran yes... now my computer can do 3-6fps at best..
21:01 agaran not overly appealing to do anything..
21:01 IhrFussel What happened?
21:02 agaran had to return gfx I had
21:02 * twoelk will be visiting family over the holidays - in remote places with slow internet
21:03 IhrFussel Graphics card?
21:03 agaran yep
21:03 IhrFussel Purchase a cheaper one for now
21:04 agaran sure if I find fitting one that does not cost arm and leg (has to be passive cooling and no external power connector)
21:04 * twoelk is therefor looking forward to long evenings with board games - or cards with nice graphics on them
21:04 agaran twoelk: like magic the gathering ?;)
21:04 IhrFussel agaran, got a phone/tablet? Play there x)
21:05 octacian I've got a $180 GTX 750Ti, get's me 60fps with all shader setting on.
21:05 agaran IhrFussel: phone has win CE 6.1.. ;) so.. -noway, no tablet either
21:05 agaran octacian: no point to put card that will double power consumption of machine I have nearly 99% of time running, where I only sometimes play in MT..
21:06 octacian true..
21:06 IhrFussel Just compile Minetest for your Win Phone...shouldn't be too hard /s
21:06 twoelk I really wish I had the time and will to pimp my old computers - such nice cases and motherboards so outdated
21:07 agaran IhrFussel: for WIN CE 6.1?
21:07 octacian I wonder how much power my tower draws... 700W power supply almost 24/7..
21:07 agaran octacian: mine has I think 160W psu.. ;)
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21:07 octacian ok... lol
21:07 IhrFussel agaran, I'm not serious by the way xD
21:07 agaran twoelk: thats other thing.. I have way too many computers stashed in places I did not even powerup in past decade..
21:07 agaran IhrFussel: ah..
21:09 IhrFussel I'm using an Intel Celeron from 2005 as my everyday computer in 2016
21:10 twoelk I did away with three old towers some time ago, still got two useless ones left. Not counting my ancient  386sx that I just can't do awy with as it was my first computer worth the name
21:10 octacian agaran: what are the full specs of your computer?
21:11 twoelk IhrFussel:  my everyday computer was an oudtated cheap one purchased in 2007 :-D
21:12 agaran octacian: this one? HP Compaq dc5800 Microtower with E8200  @ 2.66GHz
21:12 octacian huh not too bad honestly
21:12 agaran it is not bad, just onboard graphics is disaster
21:12 octacian yeah.
21:13 agaran and 8200 was one of best cpu in that family..
21:13 octacian At least they work at all, unlike my server. that's why it's a server.
21:13 twoelk I use portable software most of the time so I can just plug my work environment into some badass pc at office and do the demanding stuff there
21:13 IhrFussel A player on my server just requested their password to be changed to "12345" x.x
21:13 agaran twoelk: heh, I wish I could do that.. @work I can easilly grab something with two 8 core/16thread xeons, 128-256G ram..
21:14 agaran IhrFussel: I would change it, just first convert it to base85 at least..;)
21:14 twoelk agaran: what software do you need portable?
21:15 agaran twoelk: it is not problem with software, I use linux so.. I can recompile 99.999% of world..
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21:15 IhrFussel agaran, lol...the funny part is I already changed the password yesterday and the player found it too complicated to remember I guess
21:15 agaran it is just IT policy there.. and I am not so keen to drag my stuff to work and back..
21:16 agaran IhrFussel: looool :) too complicated, as having 32 characters?
21:16 twoelk well, I do the IT at office ... so ...
21:16 agaran twoelk: /me too, how otherwise I would be toying with set of machines that together has 2TB ram and 1PB hdd..
21:17 Fixer I can easily grab at work Pentium III and Windows 98 SE
21:17 twoelk although I was never hired for that - some 15 years ago
21:17 IhrFussel No it's also just numbers but not as easy as 12345 at least...I always tell my players to always include at least 1 letter and several numbers
21:17 agaran IDDQD and IDKFA make fine passwords..;)
21:17 garywhite back
21:17 Fixer no
21:17 agaran (if anyone still remembers doom codes)
21:17 Fixer they are easily brutforced
21:18 agaran Fixer, ^^
21:18 octacian The most annoying thing about my computer is the RAM. Though it has 8GB, it's only 1067 MGhz...
21:18 agaran Fixer, I have been using john the ripper 10 years ago..;)
21:18 Fixer tell your players to use PWGEN
21:18 agaran and I do use pwgen daily.. so..
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21:18 Fixer some people even use 1 as a password
21:18 Fixer in minetest
21:19 Fixer and in other applications
21:19 twoelk bah - think some sentance and use that for password
21:19 IhrFussel Sometimes I fear that one of my moderators or another player with more privs chose an easy one for the account...
21:19 twoelk swat7d <- snow white and the 7 dwarves
21:20 garywhite octacian: Your PC has only 1067MHz CPU?
21:20 octacian garywhite: no.. RAM.
21:20 agaran garywhite: not that odd, some atom or similar energy-efficient things have relativelly low clock
21:20 garywhite ohhh ok
21:21 agaran octacian: then some of your ram is slow.. grab dmidecode, check which one..
21:21 octacian cpu is Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
21:21 octacian agaran: AFAIK both 4GB sticks are both slow. I need to get new RAM, but that's expensive... lol
21:21 agaran my box was unstable with uneven memory populated across banks.. even if manual says it works..
21:21 garywhite Oh ok, wow. Mine is Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz
21:21 twoelk maybe it has just become dusty and will fail soon :-O
21:21 agaran heh. new toys
21:22 garywhite octacian it doesn't cost that much for RAM...
21:22 octacian Note that the CPU has 8 cores, 4 real, 4 virtual.
21:22 APileOfStickz1 How have I quit the server
21:23 agaran garywhite: say that after looking at ECC ram prices.. ;)
21:23 agaran (and some boards apparently -want- ecc ddr3 only..)
21:23 octacian garywhite: depends on how fast you want the RAM to be. and how much you want...
21:24 * twoelk hasn't oppened a pc case in ages
21:24 * agaran does that often..
21:25 * octacian thinks he has to open a PC case too much...
21:25 agaran too much, you mean, it is easier to put rotating door instead of side of enclosure to not stop you from opening it?;)
21:26 octacian that'd be nice... Rather than having to take out two screws for each side.
21:26 agaran well.. I am used to need to pull thing out of 19" rack first.. then opening it.. so..
21:26 twoelk oh there are some nice quick opening ones
21:26 agaran screws aren't stopping me much
21:27 twoelk I still have one with some lever you pulled
21:29 IhrFussel Off for now, bye =)
21:31 twoelk undtschuess
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22:43 kaeza greetings
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22:45 garywhite Hi
22:46 longerstaff13 hi
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23:21 as2j hi
23:21 as2j first time minetest (and minecraft) player here
23:21 as2j so i installed on my private server the minetestserver package
23:21 as2j started it and it runs
23:21 as2j now how can i configure that not everybody can join?
23:25 est31 you can set a default password
23:25 est31 and only tell it to people who you know
23:26 est31 also make sure to make it not announce on the serverlist
23:26 est31 both are settings in minetest.conf
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23:34 as2j i set default_password = testpassword
23:35 as2j and ran the server with: minetestserver --gameid minetest --config /etc/minetest/minetest.conf
23:35 as2j however i still can join with no password :(
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23:37 as2j oh no it seems only to be for the user which already connected before i required it
23:37 as2j so how to delete so the server doesnt know this user existed?
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23:43 GreenDimond i am trying to build the latest dev. i allready have an older build of the dev. It isn't working. Please see this post (by me): https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph‚Äčp?f=42&amp;t=15994&amp;p=242474#p242474 and help :(
23:43 Fixer as2j: you join as a simple player? or as admin?
23:43 Fixer nevermind
23:43 as2j simple player
23:43 Fixer it should work
23:44 as2j where does it store its known players?
23:44 as2j so i can just remove that file
23:45 GreenDimond under the 'players' folder in 'YOURWORLD' folder in 'worlds'.
23:45 GreenDimond thats where that is
23:45 GreenDimond i am assuming that is what you r talking about :P
23:46 as2j thanks
23:46 GreenDimond np :)
23:46 emunandPC testing
23:47 emunandPC okay let me try again
23:47 GreenDimond can anyone help meh?
23:47 emunandPC why is /g/ here?
23:47 emunandPC reeeeee normies
23:47 emunandPC what are you using GreenDiamond?
23:47 GreenDimond xubuntu
23:47 emunandPC then just install the package
23:47 GreenDimond you did not read the forum post
23:48 as2j and i cannot set my password as a normal user via /setpassword ?
23:48 GreenDimond or you would know what my problem is
23:49 emunandPC https://forum.minetest.net/v‚Äčiewtopic.php?f=42&amp;t=3837
23:49 emunandPC here you go greendiamond
23:49 GreenDimond not MT GAME
23:49 emunandPC this shoild help you
23:49 GreenDimond MT DEV
23:49 GreenDimond devel version
23:49 GreenDimond latest
23:49 emunandPC this is MT DEV
23:49 GreenDimond unstable
23:50 emunandPC it should be
23:50 GreenDimond https://launchpad.net/~minetestd‚Äčevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds
23:50 GreenDimond daily
23:50 emunandPC yes i know
23:50 emunandPC the command pulls it from git
23:50 emunandPC which is updated daily
23:51 GreenDimond but that command replaces the stable MT does it not?
23:51 emunandPC no, it doesn't
23:52 emunandPC it just matters where you run it
23:52 emunandPC just use the portable edition
23:52 GreenDimond |:|
23:52 GreenDimond wow
23:52 GreenDimond you are no help
23:52 GreenDimond i allready have minetest
23:52 GreenDimond i allready have stable
23:52 GreenDimond and i have daily
23:52 GreenDimond i want to UPDATE the daily ver
23:53 emunandPC this is how you update it then!
23:53 GreenDimond run cd minetest; git pull; make -j$(nproc) ?
23:53 emunandPC no
23:53 emunandPC https://forum.minetest.net/v‚Äčiewtopic.php?f=42&amp;t=3837
23:53 emunandPC this forum post
23:53 emunandPC "downloads and compiles Minetest Git"
23:53 GreenDimond i know
23:53 emunandPC the git is updated daily
23:53 GreenDimond cd minetest; git pull; make -j$(nproc) is what it says
23:54 GreenDimond "to update" @ bottom of post
23:54 octacian GreenDimond: unless you compiled from source originally, you have to do it the other way.
23:54 emunandPC i am talking about a different forum post
23:54 emunandPC wait hold on
23:55 GreenDimond hah. hah. hah. i am on that forum post.
23:55 GreenDimond the one you linked.
23:55 GreenDimond octacian: wat?
23:55 emunandPC then use the portable install and move it manually
23:56 emunandPC the bottom code doesn't seem to work
23:56 emunandPC all it does is move the directory
23:56 GreenDimond i orginally ran (to build daily):     sudo apt-get install -y git build-essential libirrlicht-dev libgettextpo0 libfreetype6-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev libluajit-5.1-dev liblua5.1-0-dev libleveldb-dev; cd; git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git; cd minetest/games; git clone https://github.co
23:56 as2j i can not script my player in minetest?
23:56 emunandPC you can do it manually with a gui or the terminal
23:56 GreenDimond rubenwardy said run this to update it: git pull origin master && make -j$(nproc)
23:57 GreenDimond but idk what to do with that.
23:57 octacian GreenDimand: huh then the update command should work. did you move or delete the "minetest" directory?
23:57 GreenDimond nope
23:57 GreenDimond why would i do that
23:57 GreenDimond octacian
23:57 octacian well, then what error does the update command give you?
23:57 GreenDimond what exactly IS the update command?
23:58 GreenDimond how do I use git pull origin master && make -j$(nproc)
23:58 emunandPC what is the output of it?
23:58 octacian cd minetest; git pull; make -j$(nproc)
23:58 GreenDimond i paste it into terminal as is and that obviously aint right
23:58 emunandPC does it say anything?
23:58 octacian what do you mean it isn't right? Have you not even tried to see what the result is yet?
23:58 emunandPC or does it do nothing?
23:59 GreenDimond i pasted git pull origin master && make -j$(nproc) into terminal and it said stuff about repos git not found. lemme try what you said

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