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00:00 octacian running git pull... &&... won't work. do "cd minetest; git pull; make -j$(nproc)" (without "s)
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00:01 GreenDimond hm.
00:01 GreenDimond it seems it worked but....
00:01 GreenDimond idk what the older daily ver was
00:01 GreenDimond so idk if it really updated
00:01 as2j emunandPC: in lua?
00:03 octacian GreenDimond: well, does the version you just updated to have skeleton keys? I doubt the one you had before did, so...
00:03 GreenDimond no the one before did
00:03 emunandPC what "in lua"?
00:03 emunandPC oh you mean the command?
00:03 emunandPC no it's run in bash
00:04 as2j well i wonderd if i can script my player to walk around
00:04 as2j then watch him do it ;)
00:04 GreenDimond the one I updated from I got maybe a week ago? 2 weeks?
00:04 emunandPC as2j: i don't think it would be possible
00:04 as2j ok
00:04 emunandPC as2j: just run a dedicated server and connect to it
00:04 as2j still have to find my way around first time with such a game
00:04 as2j i am alrady at a server
00:04 as2j when i fly, how to i get back to earth? ;)
00:05 emunandPC most likely you will have to do /spawn
00:05 emunandPC or something else
00:05 octacian GreenDimond: ok, well. Considering that you last updated such a short time ago, I wouldn't worry about whether it updated or not at this point. Cause unless it gave you and error, there's about a 99% chance that it did.
00:05 GreenDimond https://launchpad.net/~minetestd​evs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds says latest is 5223 but my ver isnt even a 4 dig. #.
00:05 GreenDimond (latest ver)
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00:07 octacian AFAIK the version numbers there are entirely different.
00:08 octacian Let me update my version of MT, and I'll tell you what my version number is.
00:08 as2j there are no enemies?
00:08 GreenDimond kk
00:09 octacian as2j: not yet.
00:09 as2j octacian: meaning the game doesnt have it yet or i didnt play long enough? ;)
00:10 GreenDimond probly wont have mobs 4 a while
00:10 octacian the game doesn't have any yet.
00:11 octacian and hopefully, when the game does get enemies, they are not "monsters." I'd prefer real creatures (they can still be enemies, e.g. lions).
00:11 GreenDimond i like the new carts ")
00:11 GreenDimond *:)
00:12 as2j so if you play that game, what do you actually do?
00:12 as2j just build stuff?
00:12 GreenDimond or servers
00:12 GreenDimond also get mods and do survival
00:12 GreenDimond skelton keys are also nice
00:13 GreenDimond tnt mechanics have also changed greatly
00:14 octacian as2j: at this point, I guess so. Some servers have mobs through mods, but.
00:14 emunandPC what deos AFAIK even mean?
00:14 emunandPC "As Friendly As I Know"
00:14 octacian GreenDimond: my MT version is: 5dc6198
00:14 GreenDimond As far as i know
00:14 octacian emunandPC: As Far As I Know
00:14 emunandPC oh
00:15 GreenDimond i have 0614da3
00:15 emunandPC "Always Fetch Any Internet Knowers"
00:15 GreenDimond your dev version yes?
00:15 GreenDimond *daily
00:15 octacian I wonder if the build numbers are different for each person. I wonder if a new build number is generated each time it is built. I see no other reason.
00:16 garywhite 5dc6198 = Nov 30, 2016
00:16 octacian garywhite: it = now. I just built it 60 seconds ago.
00:16 octacian It's a build number, not commit hash.
00:16 garywhite ohhhhhh ok
00:17 GreenDimond hm.
00:17 GreenDimond so i have no way of knowing. that is fine.
00:18 GreenDimond if ruben replies then maybe ill get a better way of updating? idk :P
00:18 GreenDimond rubenwardy is the one who told me how to build it :P
00:18 as2j that tutorial zip really doesnt load ;?
00:18 as2j :(
00:19 octacian GreenDimond: I think you have the latest version. I believe the build number is generated as you build it. and, AFAIK, the method you used is the only way.
00:19 GreenDimond kk
00:20 GreenDimond well cya laterz
00:20 GreenDimond thx 4 the help!
00:20 octacian ok
00:24 whitephoenix testjam starts day after tommorow
00:24 octacian whitephoenix: I really hope I can actually do it.. Just got sick recently.
00:25 whitephoenix that's too bad
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00:25 octacian been sick since monday in fact.. maybe I'll be fine though. have been feeling better recently.
00:26 whitephoenix I was gonna set up the mumble server today until xubuntu decided to break everything
00:27 octacian My friend has a mumble server. I'm sure he'd be OK with it being used for the competition.
00:27 whitephoenix eh I have someone letting my borrow a server, just need to install some stuff
00:27 octacian ohk
00:28 octacian I wish my internet was faster... I used to have a mumble server running right here, but internet proved to be too slow.
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00:29 asdf_ so people tell me to play minecraft because its "better"
00:29 asdf_ but i like foss so i want to play minetest
00:30 asdf_ since i play either for the first time, will it matter?
00:30 octacian asdf_: well, I must say that it is more advanced, but I far prefer Minetest.
00:30 asdf_ octacian: for which reason?
00:30 octacian no weird monsters, and it's FOSS.
00:30 * asdf_ dont knows about monsters
00:30 garywhite I especially like the F in FOSS because it's Free
00:30 asdf_ so there are no enemies at all? can i find other players?
00:31 octacian well, if you play minecraft, there's zombies, skeletons, and other weird stuff. Which I don't like.
00:31 octacian asdf_: if you join a server.
00:31 asdf_ i see
00:31 asdf_ well sometimes having animals would be cool
00:31 asdf_ i cannot download the tutorial zip :(
00:32 asdf_ want to learn how to play this game
00:32 octacian Hopefully Minetest will get animals soon. Minetest doesn't have as many developers though.
00:32 whitephoenix I'm thinking about install gentoo
00:32 garywhite asdf_: What operating system do you have?
00:33 asdf_ linux
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00:33 asdf_ octacian: in what is the game written?
00:33 garywhite There are 2 programming languages for MT.
00:34 garywhite C++ & Lua IIRC
00:34 whitephoenix yes
00:34 octacian asdf_: the actual core game itself is written in C++. The mods, which power in-game content, are written in Lua.
00:35 asdf_ i installed minetest via my packagemanager, does it mean it already has mods or its just the core?
00:35 whitephoenix probably core + default minetest_game
00:35 whitephoenix I just realized, I lost the gift link for the humble bundle book thing for testjam
00:36 garywhite D'oh whitephoenix
00:36 asdf_ whitephoenix: so mintest_game is already lua?
00:36 whitephoenix yes
00:36 asdf_ cool
00:36 asdf_ where can i see that code?
00:36 octacian asdf_: yes.
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00:36 whitephoenix garywhite, they have a game programming bundle, so I'll give that as a prize instead
00:36 whitephoenix github
00:36 kaeza asdf_, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game
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00:37 asdf_ kaeza: thank you
00:37 asdf_ so if i install a mod on the server, this will be automatically active when i start the server and all players will get it?
00:37 kaeza asdf_, more or less, yes
00:37 kaeza asdf_, except players don't "get" anything except media files
00:38 kaeza all code runs server-side
00:38 asdf_ or is this what the gameid switch is for? i am not so sure yet how to understand 'mod'
00:38 asdf_ i thought a mod is an entirely different version of a game. but it seems here it can also mean that the game gets added functionality?
00:39 kaeza asdf_, mods are collections of code (.lua) and media (textures, sounds, models) that extend the game by adding blocks or other things
00:39 garywhite asdf_: A mod is an addition to the game that adds more stuff, a subgame is an entire different version of a game here
00:39 asdf_ ah okay
00:39 asdf_ :)
00:40 kaeza asdf_, "modpacks" refer to collections of mods with more or less related functionality
00:40 kaeza "games" (aka subgames) refer to "ready to play" collection of mods
00:41 kaeza when you install minetest_game, you're just installing a bunch of mods that provide the base
00:41 asdf_ is there a way when running minetestserver to see what i can use for 'gameid' ?
00:41 whitephoenix I updated the prizes on the post, sorry guys https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=3&t=15999&p=241853#p241853
00:42 kaeza asdf_, --gameid is the name of the "subgame" directory (usually in ~/.minetest/games)
00:42 whitephoenix last time I use anything canonical makes
00:42 kaeza sans `_game`, if present
00:43 kaeza so e.g. to select minetest_game, you use `--gameid minetest`
00:44 asdf_ and the mods are loaded automatically?
00:44 * longerstaff13 appears
00:44 kaeza game mods do; "external" ones, you need to enable separately
00:44 asdf_ my distribution has some mods in the package manager. i installed some. they reside in  /usr/share/minetest/mods it seems
00:44 asdf_ following ones i installed: farming_plus  homedecor_modpack  moreblocks  quartz  streets  torches
00:45 octacian whitephoenix: look through you history maybe. Game development is honestly less interesting..
00:45 kaeza asdf_, to enable a mod named `farming_plus`: echo "load_mod_farming_plus = true" >> worlds/yourworld/world.mt
00:45 octacian wait, so what OS are you running?
00:45 whitephoenix yeah sorry
00:46 whitephoenix I'm running xubuntu right now, but am switching away because it messed up my hard drives
00:46 octacian that's honestly rare...
00:46 longerstaff13 how?
00:46 octacian lol
00:46 whitephoenix I don't know, I think a video card driver went wrong
00:46 octacian use Ubuntu if all else fails.
00:46 longerstaff13 I use LXDE
00:46 asdf_ kaeza: and a 'world' is like a version of a game? i mean a save game?
00:46 whitephoenix next thing I new I couldn't mount my drive
00:46 octacian what video card do you have?
00:46 asdf_ kaeza: the state of  the game?
00:46 whitephoenix data recovery stuff got only some stuff back
00:46 whitephoenix r9 280
00:47 octacian huh never heard of it.
00:47 kaeza asdf_, a "world" is the state of the game (map+metadata+player info+...)
00:47 asdf_ ok
00:47 whitephoenix but yeah I'm switching to gentoo I think, that way if something breaks I can only blame myself, not canonical for removing stuff I needed
00:47 asdf_ so loading those mods is always done via editing that file?
00:47 octacian Ubuntu rocks! ..and it can't really be Canonical's fault... I mean, really
00:48 asdf_ it seems the world file already has contents with the mods, all set to false. i wonder when they got added since i installed the mods later only
00:48 whitephoenix eh they removed the fglrx driver which I needed
00:48 whitephoenix screw amd users right?
00:48 kaeza asdf_, you can also manually put mods into `yourworld/worldmods` and they will load automatically IIRC
00:48 kaeza that's probably easier
00:49 octacian whitephoenix: you sure they removed it? It had to have been something you did.. (no offence)
00:49 * octacian is afk
00:49 kaeza (worldmods is a directory you need to create manually)
00:49 whitephoenix octacian, yes they totally dropped the package
00:49 whitephoenix try apt install fglrx see what happens
00:49 asdf_ so how to get all the mods into the world.mt file already? although disabled
00:49 asdf_ does it genreally contain all mods even if not installed?
00:49 * octacian is back.
00:50 octacian whitephoenix: what had you done first? typically, you install something, dependencies get messed up, and weird stuff happens.
00:50 kaeza asdf_, the mainmenu adds those lines when you configure a world
00:50 asdf_ hm cannot remember to have configured anything honestly
00:50 whitephoenix The video drivers they gave me instead worked horribly so I downloaded some from the amd website
00:51 whitephoenix idk what happened then but everything froze, things crashed, hard drives got messed up
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00:53 whitephoenix oh right, the hard drives getting messed with actually happened while I was reinstalling xubuntu
00:53 whitephoenix I made sure that the format box was unchecked for the drives but I guess it did it anyways
00:54 asdf_ hm it seems i can only gathre flowers, earth and trees? not the stone?
00:56 octacian whitephoenix: so, it wouldn't boot? did it like freeze when attempting to boot?
00:56 whitephoenix I forget already, I think there was kernel panicing
00:56 kaeza a crafting guide in default is really needed :(
00:57 octacian ..did you try nomodeset in grub? did it drop you to initramfs?
00:57 octacian initramfs would explain the HDD issues, but..
00:57 whitephoenix eh I stopped caring at that point, I've used better distributions anyways
00:58 whitephoenix I reinstalled it to recover what I could and prepare for a new install
00:58 octacian kaeza: I agree. I don't get why people want progressive crafting guides. It ruins the entire idea...
00:58 octacian well...
00:58 kaeza liberal crafting guides are better
00:58 * kaeza hides
00:58 octacian yep
00:59 * octacian agrees
00:59 kaeza but seriously, I don't like the UI's approach of showing everything and the dog
01:00 kaeza it should be progressive IMHO, to avoid spoiling the experience
01:00 asdf_ yes i need to learn crafting
01:00 asdf_ i found out how to made some wodden planks now
01:00 asdf_ but still not sure how to mine stone
01:01 asdf_ and no idea whether my mods have loaded
01:01 asdf_ since i dont see any farms anywhere
01:01 asdf_ and no streets
01:01 asdf_ but probably its somehitng i an build now?
01:01 octacian yeah. Still though, I disagree with progressive. It kinda ruins it. As somebody said, why would people make random stuff if they don't know what it can be used for?
01:01 garywhite asdf_: The streets and farms do not generate automatically
01:02 octacian Maybe if you can get something like a wiki for each item, showing several things it could be used for.. that'd be ok.
01:03 * octacian is again AFK. He is currently looking for scrap paper (like that's easy) to begin planning for TestJam
01:03 kaeza octacian, ever played Terraria? its crafting system is quite nice: http://terraria.gamepedia.com/Guide:Crafting_101
01:04 kaeza except for the "proximity to crafting stations" bit :P
01:04 asdf_ can somebody tell me where i can get a better mining-thing? i dont see iron or anything anywhere
01:04 asdf_ or am not able to pick it at least
01:05 kaeza asdf_, you need a pickaxe: three planks on top row, and sticks in middle column (forming a 'T')
01:05 kaeza that's the only spoiler you get :P
01:05 garywhite celeron55, paramat, all devs, IhrFussel: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&t=16048
01:06 * octacian is back.
01:06 octacian kaeza: yes, I have.
01:06 octacian you know, I guess it is. That wouldn't honestly be too bad...
01:06 asdf_ kaeza: wow you mean i can build stuff just like that? but in some way i need to build things that the computer already knows right? otherwise it wouldnt know that this thing is stronger thatn what i had before
01:07 whitephoenix thats hilarious
01:07 whitephoenix css sure is hard
01:07 octacian CSS?
01:07 whitephoenix the minehacker website
01:07 octacian IKR.
01:07 whitephoenix Buy -> "not yet, buddy."
01:07 octacian "First ever hacked Client" :rotfl:
01:08 whitephoenix I kinda feel sad for anyone who look to cheating in video games for validation
01:09 fuddie what is 'mese crystal'?
01:09 octacian Yeah... I made a hacked client once cause I didn't believe that it was that easy, but... I deleted it later, I'm not that bad.
01:09 kaeza asdf_, yep. once you have the "wooden pickaxe", you should be able to mine at least stone
01:09 whitephoenix I bet this is just a useless mod he's gonna sucker people in paying $30 for
01:09 whitephoenix otherwise, I'll get the decompiler ready
01:10 BrandonReese I doubt anybody buys it.
01:10 octacian nope, it's probably an actual client. IK noclip, fly, and fast is easily possible. In fact, it's just one line. AFAIK damage is client-side, not sure about the other stuff though.
01:10 kaeza asdf_, try same recipe but with cobblestone instead of wood planks this time
01:10 octacian just that it's a paid MT client, is like, weird.
01:10 emunandPC i know
01:10 asdf_ not sure how to use the new tool now actually, kaeza
01:10 whitephoenix How do you even get a client mod to load on a server that doesn't have it enabled?
01:11 emunandPC but minetest is liscened under LGPL
01:11 asdf_ i have too much stuff in the bar below, flowers and such
01:11 emunandPC so iguess its fair?
01:11 whitephoenix yeah its legal, just a jackass thing to do
01:11 asdf_ yeah got it!
01:11 kaeza asdf_, on the inventory screen, the top row is your hotbar. move items as you see fit
01:11 BrandonReese Is he required to share the source no matter what, or is he only required to include the source to those who purchase?
01:11 octacian emunandPC: but he has to provide source code, unless he's used MT like a library, which is ridiculous. And he doesn't seem interested in doing so.
01:12 whitephoenix oh right forgot about that
01:12 whitephoenix getting my licenses mixed up yet again
01:12 emunandPC he is legally obliged to
01:12 emunandPC time to make like Nintendo and do a DMCA
01:12 asdf_ can i somehow get my position so i can return there later?
01:12 emunandPC asdf_: do F5
01:13 whitephoenix emunandPC, do you do 3ds hacking?
01:13 emunandPC atlast someone notices
01:13 emunandPC yes
01:13 emunandPC or rather, homebrew
01:13 asdf_ emunandPC: more such trick? :)
01:14 whitephoenix Nice, I did that for a while too
01:14 fuddie What is the use of "Mese Crystal"?
01:14 emunandPC asdf_: F9 brings up a minimap
01:14 emunandPC mese has no use really
01:14 emunandPC mesecons can be installed to use it as redstone
01:14 fuddie ok thanks
01:14 VanessaE mese is sometimes used as a currency too
01:15 octacian emunandPC: you can use it for tools....
01:15 emunandPC octacian: almost anything can be used as a tool though, e.g. stone, wood, diamond
01:15 octacian true.
01:16 garywhite VanessaE did you read the link above?
01:16 whitephoenix I guess I'd better start compiling gentoo before it gets too late
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01:17 emunandPC someone buy it and extract the mods he has
01:17 VanessaE garywhite: about minehack? yeah, seen it already
01:17 emunandPC then put it up under gpl
01:17 octacian emunandPC: well, I'm not doing it. But when he releases it, if someone does, please let me know.
01:17 VanessaE the proper way to handle minehack is DMCA and similar takedown notices
01:18 fuddie what is minehack?
01:18 octacian Yeah. I agree.
01:18 VanessaE everyone who has a bit of code in the engine or game should be doing so.
01:18 VanessaE fuddie: a modified clone of the engine
01:18 VanessaE dedicated to bypassing servers' rules
01:18 VanessaE e.g. noclip and the like
01:18 fuddie is it any better?
01:18 VanessaE no.
01:19 fuddie oh so it's just a cheaters' client?
01:19 whitephoenix yes
01:19 VanessaE yep basically
01:19 VanessaE and one which they're charging money for :P
01:19 emunandPC even though there are free ones already
01:19 fuddie that is funny
01:20 garywhite Would it be possible to have a server mod that kicks any such client that does this sort of bullcrap hacking?
01:20 octacian garywhite: though I don't it, the client supposedly can avoid kicking and banning :P
01:21 emunandPC garywhite: i guess there might be a way
01:21 garywhite xban, bans IP, anything & EVERYTHING possible to remove these clients and make them worthless
01:21 VanessaE garywhite: not precisely but if, for example, the server says a user doesn't have noclip, and that user is seen passing through a solid wall (according to where the server says nodes are at), then surely it can kick the player
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01:22 octacian the client could (though I doubt it, again) have some kind of vpn/tor type thing builtin. I honestly don't think the guy is that smart though. just a possibility.
01:22 VanessaE so what?
01:23 VanessaE kick == server stops exchanging packets
01:23 octacian It could just reconnect. I really doubt it though.
01:23 whitephoenix honestly this has all the things they advertise in minecraft hacked clients
01:23 VanessaE (as for tor and vpns, ban every last G*d damned one of them)
01:24 whitephoenix even the annoying overused dubstep in the trailer
01:24 whitephoenix I think they use proxies
01:24 octacian yep lol.
01:24 octacian probably.
01:25 emunandPC oh yeah, the generic dubstep music in the trailer
01:25 emunandPC stopped watching it after i heard it
01:29 * octacian has to use both monitors, so is AFK.
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01:37 asdf_ i installed that https://github.com/minetest-mods/craftguide
01:37 asdf_ but have no idea how to display it?
01:38 asdf_ also i enabled it in world.mt
01:39 kaeza looks like you need a book
01:39 kaeza look in the craftguide how to... oh
01:40 octacian lol
01:40 VanessaE heh
01:41 kaeza asdf_, three papyrus horizontally in a row -> paper
01:42 kaeza three papers vertically in a column -> book
01:42 kaeza book -> craft guide
01:42 asdf_ wonder how to get papyrus
01:42 * kaeza says fsck it and /giveme craftguide:book
01:42 asdf_ the stuff at the water maybe?
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01:44 asdf_ oh nice
01:45 asdf_ great runtime error :)
01:45 kaeza lol
01:46 asdf_ item_onuse -> attempt to call field colorize a nil value.
01:46 asdf_ dont see why https://github.com/minetest-mods/c​raftguide/blob/master/init.lua#L40 seems to be god
01:47 asdf_ or did the minetest api change?
01:48 asdf_ doesnt look like it either
01:52 kaeza that was probably after 0.4.14, so yes
01:53 kaeza you could replace that line with just `return str` for now
01:54 kaeza I'm getting craftguide/init.lua:72: attempt to index local 'recipes' (a nil value) instead, so something else's broken there
01:54 asdf_ i just looked at some api reference
01:54 * kaeza suggests https://github.com/minetest​-technic/unified_inventory
01:54 asdf_ seems that one was old then too?
01:55 asdf_ what is that exactly?
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02:15 jubalh hi
02:15 jubalh i saw there are many mods, is it the goal for them to stay mods or will some be included in the main game?
02:15 jubalh some seem to make senes..
02:15 jubalh and its alwaysa a hassle to install mods
02:33 jubalh how comes i never met one of those: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mobs ?
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02:36 octacian jubalh: cause it requires a special mod.
02:37 octacian good night everybody.
02:39 jubalh octacian: i wonder why that fact is not mentioned in tha wiki article
02:39 octacian IDK, all IK is that I didn't wite it :D
02:44 jubalh so i used some time to build a nice houes for myself
02:44 jubalh but i suppose i cannot somehow save this and put in another world?
02:44 jubalh or save that world?
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03:02 primary11 can someone help me? I'm playinh minetest with a lot of mods that adds mobs like nssm and mobs-redo. And i can't find a way to dig the cobweb
03:03 primary11 which tool should i use?
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04:21 garywhite Don't be surprised if I disconnect...I just got a Flash Flood Warning for our area
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07:48 cheapie This is what happens when I get bored enough to start reading random sections of the MUTCD: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=3&t=156&p=242803#p242803
07:49 cheapie The part in question here would be chapter 4J, "Traffic Control for Movable Bridges".
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08:26 ikradulov hello . I tried to run a sub game called minetest saturn . But afer that every game has no gravity . I deleted the config file (gravity set by the mod there) but no luck . Any help ?)
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09:17 Out`Of`Control ikradulov: move/delete gravity mod
09:18 ikradulov does not work
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09:27 ikradulov apperantly i fixed it by recompiling latest git version and deleting the config file
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09:54 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Ugly Christmas Sweater Day! 😃
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11:27 jubalh hi folks
11:27 jubalh i really think minetest should get some enemies/animals
11:27 jubalh its awfully lonely in that big world all by your own
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12:40 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest: Mapgen: Make mgv7 the default in UI 78bf7c4 https://git.io/v1HHl (2016-12-16T12:31:38Z)
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16:24 Baker Hello
16:24 garywhite Hello Baker
16:25 Baker I finally figured out how to use irc.....
16:26 Baker Hey Gary : )
16:26 garywhite Wait...BakerPrime? Is that you?
16:26 Baker Yup
16:26 garywhite Oh hey
16:27 Baker What's up?
16:27 longerstaff13 BakerPrime?
16:27 Baker Yes longer?
16:27 juhdanad Who is BakerPrime?
16:27 longerstaff13 a player from my server and some other servers
16:28 Baker Am I on the right channel to be chatting? Or is this a dev
16:28 longerstaff13 this is #minetest
16:28 Baker Channel?
16:28 longerstaff13 yes
16:29 garywhite This is the right channel Baker
16:29 Baker So I should join a different channel?
16:29 garywhite You can join #ls-servers
16:29 Baker Ok Gary
16:29 longerstaff13 no, you are correct to join here
16:30 longerstaff13 and #ls-servers is my IRC :P
16:30 garywhite But you don't have to leave here
16:30 Baker Ok longer
16:31 Baker I just came on to let you know I won't be on ls-world for a while
16:32 longerstaff13 oh why?
16:32 Baker I lost my computer for a few weeks
16:32 longerstaff13 oh
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16:33 longerstaff13 you can join the IRC though, /join #ls-servers
16:33 garywhite oh ok...If you don't mind me asking Baker, why did you lose it?
16:33 Baker But I will try (now that I know how) to connect to irc once in a while
16:33 longerstaff13 ok
16:34 Baker I failed to do some chores the other day because I was playing computer
16:34 longerstaff13 :/
16:34 Baker Not very bright of me
16:35 longerstaff13 can DerpyCow still visit?
16:35 Baker He lost his too because he is even worse then me with computers
16:36 longerstaff13 XD oh no
16:36 Baker Oh yeah XD if I go down, we both go down.
16:36 longerstaff13 XD
16:37 Baker So, what's new on the server?
16:37 longerstaff13 a hacker :/
16:38 Baker Uh oh, did he destroy anything?
16:38 longerstaff13 nah, he did however give himself privs and ban a few people, but I banned him b4 he could do worse
16:39 Baker Good, NO Hackers allowed
16:39 longerstaff13 exacto
16:39 longerstaff13 I'll brb
16:39 sfan5 lel
16:39 Baker Has he gotten back on yet?
16:40 sfan5 longerstaff13: if a "hacker" can manage to acquire ban privileges then you are doing something seriously wrong
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16:41 red-001 that should be impossible...
16:41 red-001 unless he used social engineering
16:41 Baker No, not necessarily, hackers (to my knowledge) can pretty much get any private they want
16:41 red-001 a.k.a one of your admins gave him provs
16:41 red-001 privs*
16:41 Baker Who?
16:42 sfan5 Baker: no, sorry, they can't
16:42 Baker Oh, ok
16:42 Baker *Privilege
16:43 red-001 well he could in theory get access to the machine...
16:43 garywhite If he got access to the machine, then the same person hosts 10+ servers
16:43 red-001 but then he would be able to do a lot more
16:43 red-001 well sounds like someone gave him the privs
16:44 garywhite Plus, it's not like it's hosted at Yahoo
16:44 red-001 you got any logs of the incident?
16:44 red-001 he might have exploited a poorly made mod....
16:47 Baker Ughh, where I live we are getting temps in the - 40f: (
16:47 garywhite :/
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16:49 rickmcfarley I thought we had it bad with -1f
16:50 Baker Or were, last night.... now it's come up to like 0f with windmills around- 20
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16:50 Baker *Windchills
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16:52 DerpyCow \JOIN
16:53 DerpyCow ...
16:53 garywhite Hi DerpyCow
16:53 DerpyCow Hi
16:53 Baker You r on derpy
16:53 Baker *Your
16:54 DerpyCow How u doing?
16:54 DerpyCow Yep I am
16:54 DerpyCow ?
16:56 DerpyCow Baker's AFP
16:56 DerpyCow :away fom
16:56 DerpyCow Phone
16:56 DerpyCow *from
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17:04 DerpyCow Back
17:06 DerpyCow Gary?
17:06 DerpyCow U there?
17:07 longerstaff13 ?
17:08 DerpyCow Is Gary still here?
17:08 longerstaff13 dunno
17:08 longerstaff13 garywhite: ^
17:08 DerpyCow Kk
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17:10 DerpyCow Hi baker!
17:10 Baker Hi
17:10 DerpyCow =)
17:11 Baker Longerstaff? Will you still be on mt fourms after you leave?
17:12 DerpyCow Long???
17:12 garywhite Yes
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17:13 DerpyCow LONGER?
17:13 DerpyCow Not gary
17:13 Baker Will longer still be on the fourms?
17:14 Baker I'll try to get connected on ls servers
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17:50 Ducky Hi
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18:53 juhdanad Is there a platformer mod for Minetest?
18:53 juhdanad I mean when you have to jump on the head of your enemies.
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19:10 Fixer lol
19:10 juhdanad It was a serious question...
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19:18 Fixer Mario Mod for minetest?
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19:19 juhdanad Yes, why not? Digging and building nodes would be part of the gameplay, but in a limited form.
19:20 Persi[m] I think Mario 64 kinda taught us jumping on enemies in 3d doesn't quite work
19:21 Persi[m] But then Mario 3d land showed it does work if you have a stereoscopic screen and fixed camera...
19:24 Persi[m] It would require improving the client to make the third person camera not suck for platforming, and it would still be terrible underground and inside buildings
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20:47 garywhite Has anyone heard of snapcraft?
20:47 garywhite http://snapcraft.io
20:47 est31 yes
20:47 est31 flatpak is better
20:47 est31 http://flatpak.org/
20:48 garywhite Cause longerstaff13 usually gets 5-8 FPS using the regular MT build for Ubuntu (I think) but he's getting 40 FPS on an unofficial snapcraft snap
20:50 est31 well, thats probably caused by different configuration of the snap, and less caused by the actual snap process
20:50 est31 but whatever
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21:00 longerstaff13 25-40FPS yes
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21:11 whitephoenix Reminder that testjam 2016 starts tommorow at 10am PST
21:13 garywhite whitephoenix have you gotten any official entries?
21:13 whitephoenix No it hasn't started yet
21:13 whitephoenix hopefully I can get gentoo setup by then
21:14 garywhite Shouldn't you start finding out who plans to compete and have a preliminary list of contestants? If you use something like Google Forms, that can export the list to a Microsoft Excel (*.xlsx) file
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22:25 Fixer config may be different
22:25 Fixer it may also contain superfl shader PR that was merged recently that greatly enhances fps
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23:33 kaeza VanessaE, around?
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23:50 kaeza VanessaE, https://github.com/minetest-technic/item​_tweaks/issues/3#issuecomment-267723647

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