Time Nick Message 00:18 kaeza STHGOM, I pushed a some fixes to wiki mod to support mod security. Feel free to report any issues 00:19 kaeza you will need to add `wiki` to `secure.trusted_mods` 00:20 STHGOM great, thanks! 00:21 STHGOM so was that the problem i was having 00:21 STHGOM i guess ill see 00:46 freemint Hi guys it is urgent can you tell me where i need to place .me files to be able to load them a world 00:49 iska if you talking about we files put them in worlds/yourservernamehere/schems by default 00:50 freemint using local installation so world-mane instead od wserver name 00:50 freemint ??? 00:51 iska worldname = yourservername 00:52 freemint_ th 00:52 freemint_ thx 00:53 iska np, goin sleep now 3am ;) \o 00:55 garywhite Why hasn't anyone released MT to the Amazon store? 00:55 emunandPC there is no need to 00:56 emunandPC amazon's OS is based on Android 00:56 emunandPC just install F-Droid on there and download Minetest 00:57 garywhite True, but it would get more publicity... 00:58 garywhite Plus if the community wanted to make some money, the Underground program could make quite a bit of money for the devs if the game gets popular 00:58 emunandPC underground program? 01:00 garywhite Basically, Amazon Underground is a program that devs can opt their apps into that pays them based on how much the app is used 01:01 emunandPC do the devs know about this? 01:01 garywhite Probably not yet. Why? 01:03 emunandPC like you said, this could help the devs out 01:05 garywhite nvm...You have to have in-app purchases to qualify :( 01:05 emunandPC then let's just keep it as a normal app 01:06 emunandPC people could just donate to the devs directly 01:08 emunandPC they should add a bitcoin or litecoin address 01:22 emunandPC would it be a bad idea to sign up for a developer account and port Minetest for Android to the Amazon App Store? 01:23 emunandPC or is that okay if i say i am just a maintainer of the package? 01:24 garywhite Have to ask #minetest-dev 01:42 mootpoint wait so #minetest-dev is for engine development? 01:43 emunandPC i guess 01:44 mootpoint :) they say you learn something new everyday right? 02:40 mootpoint i have a rather strange question to ask, what color is a gingerbread man in hex or rgb? 09:50 JamesTait Good mornng all! Happy Thursday, happy Cat Herders' Day, and happy International Tea Day! 😃 🐈 ☕ 10:00 DFeniks my minetest hung up and i cant even kill it in any way i know , in kubuntu system monitor says its in disk sleep (whatever that means) i compiled it in 12 december i think 10:01 DFeniks ouch , and my cat is pulling on my mouse cord and piercing fingers 10:03 DFeniks i dunno wby i even writing this , because i doubt i would write error report or anything . anyway i wonder how to kill that window now 10:17 DFeniks never mind , it died eventually 10:18 Out`Of`Control client? 10:29 DFeniks im not sure , it was singleplayer and i launched it with DRI_PRIME=1 ./bin/minetest to use my primary video device (i have one of thouse switchable things i dont really sure how its really called) and after it freezed i did sensors and saw that it is off so i thought game already died , but window was still on and frozen 10:31 DFeniks on second thought maybe i should have googled more about that command before use 10:32 DFeniks and this have actually happened twice actually 10:32 DFeniks meh whatever 11:22 sfan5 DFeniks: disk sleep means it is currently waiting for an IO operation 11:22 sfan5 you cannot kill it during that 12:59 DuCake Hello - for some reason my server is not loading a certain couple of mods (most visibly, "mobs" and "zmobs") causing a cascade of non-loading mods. 12:59 DuCake The reason for it however I cannot find - all mods are installed, all mods required are marked active in the world.mt and present in the mods folder, I checked the permissions on the folders and did chown -R the appropriate user (the same I am launching minetest as) but to no avail.... I ran it once with "--info --verbose" but that doesn't seem to tell me why the specific mods are not loading... 12:59 DuCake Change that happened previous - I did a git pull on tenplus1/mobs_redo -- but it shows no conflicts and the minetest log reveals that it didn't even try to load that mod ? 12:59 DuCake Env: Ubuntu 16.04 x64 12:59 DuCake Minetest: Build info: VER=0.4.14-dev-fb20b45-dirty BUILD_TYPE=Release RUN_IN_PLACE=1 USE_GETTEXT=0 USE_SOUND=1 USE_CURL=1 USE_FREETYPE=1 USE_LUAJIT=0 STATIC_SHAREDIR="." 12:59 DuCake http://pastebin.com/NAY73nLR 13:00 sfan5 (you could've linked the log entry for -dev instead of pasting that wall of text again) 13:00 sfan5 generally trying to run two mob mods at the same time isn't the best idea 13:00 sfan5 also is zmobs a modpack or a single mod? 13:00 DuCake didn't know it was live-logged 13:00 DuCake zmobs is a mod pack with a "zmobs" mod in it 13:01 DuCake they haven't been a problem before for the 5 or szo months we've had this server up. .. 13:02 DuCake and some mods request/require zmobs so .... OK I'll go edit them to remove zmobs dependency , though I doubt that's it - I would have otherwise expected a name conflict to register. In this case, the mods don't load at all (mobs:meat used to be registered, now not registering at all 13:03 sfan5 what happens when you move the mods you want to a "worldmods" folder in the world folder? 13:07 DuCake never come across that mechanic yet - is that literlayy a ./worlds/world/worldmods dir ? will try 13:08 sfan5 yes 13:10 DuCake oh 13:10 DuCake I think I see it .... 13:10 DuCake mobs_redo and lucky_block seem to depend on eachother...... 13:12 DuCake that did it 13:12 DuCake I can't believe I missed that, apologies for flooding both channel;s :-/ 16:51 IhrFussel Let's say I have a mod called "xyz" now I want to display a JPG image inside an image formspec "pic.jpg" I define in init.lua ... do I have to move the image to xyz/textures? Or does it need to be in the mod directory? 16:53 IhrFussel Cause right now pic.jpg is in xyz/textures and the engine says "generation error" 17:00 Jordach hint: all textures need to be in PNG format 17:00 Jordach and inside the textures folder 17:06 IhrFussel Jordach, sfan5 told me the engine supports JPG 17:07 IhrFussel And the file is inside the textures folder...it's at xyz/pic.jpg and in my formspec inside init.lua I have "image[0,6;8,3;pic.jpg]" 17:08 IhrFussel xyz/textures/pic.jpg* 17:09 DuCake if you have mod xyz and image in xyz/textures/pic.jpg then you should be able to just reference xyz.jpg 17:09 DuCake the formsepc syntax expects itesms in a certain order though so if it's not displaying check you have added all the parameters 17:09 DuCake and yes JPG is supported 17:10 IhrFussel DuCake, it is showing the formspec ingame just not the image..it says error generating pic.jpg 17:10 DuCake that said I know this holds for the form background.... not particularly tested individual items but I believe it should follow similarly 17:12 IhrFussel But I see a placeholder image (various colors) 17:12 DuCake try background[x,y;x2,y2;texturename.jpg] 17:12 DuCake try background[x,y;w,h;texturename.jpg] rather 17:13 IhrFussel DuCake, is background[] the same as image[]? 17:13 DuCake background sets the background of the form 17:13 DuCake iI haven't played around wmuch with formspecs in a while, but this may or may not help https://github.com/taikedz/minetest-formspeccer/blob/master/form.lua 17:54 IhrFussel Nope still doesn't work...it downloads the image but doesn't display it "error generating image" 18:08 garywhite Take a look at this guys https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16045 18:13 twoelk that shuold probably be linked to all them similar discussions that have sprung up over the years 18:14 garywhite They said about adding mesecons to minetest_game, but I said that would cause a massive increase in lag and in resource usage, especially on lower-end systems 18:14 twoelk in the end most list all the stuff that one would expect in a mc clone 18:15 IhrFussel garywhite, I don't see how the devs can think it's fine that torches make cheating possible...have no air left underwater? Just place a torch and the water is gone 18:15 twoelk that's not a bug, that is and always has been a feature 18:16 IhrFussel Feature? It's a VERY weird behavior and most people would see it as bug I'm sure 18:16 twoelk you use torches and papyrus (and slabs) to do stuff under water 18:18 IhrFussel The devs could add other items for that stuff...items that actually remove water in a senseful way 18:18 mootpoint i use torches to clear out underwater domes, well, before we got the scaffolding mod 18:18 * twoelk awaits for spongebob to appear 18:19 mootpoint ihrFussel: there was a sponge mod i saw a while back , but i dont think the devs would like to put that into default 18:19 * garywhite decides to just leave this conversation to mootpoint, twoelk & IhrFussel 18:20 mootpoint garywhite: you started it get back in here! 18:20 garywhite Um I said about mesecons not being able to go into minetest_game cause of lag, Ihr started the torch conversation 18:21 twoelk I find the wheat-flour-seeds complex or the iron-steel-bronze enigma more disturbing for my version of percieved reality in a videogame 18:21 IhrFussel mootpoint, doesn't have to be a sponge, there are a lot of things that are made to remove/reduce water, but yeah the devs only add the most barebone contents 18:21 agaran good afternoon 18:21 mootpoint what is the wheat-flour-seeds complex and the iron-steel-bronze enigma? 18:21 twoelk well that was the idea - keep the base game simple 18:22 mootpoint ihrFussel: i like using scaffolding, you can breath underwater, you can almost completely see through it, and it breaks in one hit 18:23 twoelk ingame you make flour from bushels of cut wheat and seeds drop randomly when harvesting 18:23 IhrFussel I don't think adding a few more items to default that make sense would make the mod heavy 18:24 mootpoint i dont either, however, the heaviness was the suggestion of making mesecons default, that would be way to much for just the vanilla 18:24 IhrFussel We are not talking about ABMs, animations etc 18:24 twoelk and bronze is harder than iron 18:24 IhrFussel At least not when it's about removing water* 18:25 mootpoint twoelk: on Fozland we have a threshing floor that you get seeds from and a mill to grind seeds into flour. that makes a whole lot more sense than the default.. however we still get the seed drops from wheat. also i dont use bronze often so dont have much input on that 18:25 twoelk I don't think much should be added to mt-game in the near future but rather the existing gameplay and balance reorganized and tweaked 18:26 IhrFussel mootpoint, no I agree there...mesecons should not be default cause they really cause LOTS of lag...but a simple node/item without timers doesn't 18:26 twoelk yeah, I think WildesLand also has a better system regarding wheat 18:27 mootpoint ihrFussel: what were we arguing about again? just kidding... but seriously, what item do you suggest to remove water that would be as fast and as cheap as torches 18:27 * twoelk makes a note to visit Fozland 18:28 mootpoint twoelk: if it helps you can earn fly after 60 days :) 18:28 IhrFussel mootpoint, maybe not an item to remove water but rather one that lets you breath underwater in a way 18:28 twoelk I guess the point is some people consider it wrong to be easy to replace water 18:29 mootpoint well its not that easy, since water replicates, you have to fill the entire are with whatever node, then remove 18:29 IhrFussel I'm thinking about a "tool" that has uses 18:29 twoelk hehe, nope, mootpoint, wont have that much time for a single server, all them others would miss me 18:29 mootpoint we had a discussion about adding a mod called gillyweed, from the harry potter series, which would add a plant that lets you breathe underwater 18:30 mootpoint twoelk, 60 days account age, 8 hours play time 18:30 twoelk there is a scuba mod somewhere 18:30 mootpoint wasnt the scuba mod buggy or was it fixed and i didnt see it? 18:30 twoelk oops, never used it - I love using torches and papyrus 18:31 twoelk and recently slabs and pillars 18:35 mootpoint ill make a note to look at the scuba mod, its over 3 years old maybe i can polish it up enough that we could stop using torches 18:37 mootpoint all right well its off to work with me :) yall have a good evening 18:55 sfan5 IhrFussel: does it work when you convert it to PNG? 18:55 sfan5 if yes that's a bug 18:55 sfan5 if not something else is wrong 18:56 IhrFussel sfan5, do you know some command line tool for Ubuntu that can convert JPG to PNG? 18:56 sfan5 convert 18:56 agaran IhrFussel: if you have imagemagick installed, then 'convert' 18:56 sfan5 (yes its called that) 19:00 IhrFussel How should I use it? the man page of convert is full of options 19:01 emuPhone you could use gimp to convert image files 19:02 agaran convert foo.png foo.jpg I think.. 19:05 IhrFussel agaran, I think it worked..it copies and converts right? 19:07 agaran IhrFussel: it converts simply leaving source intact 19:07 agaran you can try file foo.png and foo.jpg 19:07 agaran or identify foo.png, identify foo.jpg 19:07 agaran (identify comes with ImageMagick too) 19:08 IhrFussel agaran, the PNG one is FIVE times larger than the JPG file o.o 19:11 agaran well PNG isn't lossy format as far as I know, jpg is lossy 19:11 est31 yeah 19:11 agaran also it uses different palette width too, png can go up to 48bit one iirc 19:11 est31 use PNG instead of jpeg 19:11 est31 jpeg is not good for a game like minetest 19:11 IhrFussel But the image adds 3 MB to the mods file size now... 19:12 agaran what resolution it is then? 19:12 IhrFussel How do I see the resolution? identify? 19:13 agaran yes 19:14 IhrFussel PNG 1920x1280 1920x1280+0+0 8-bit DirectClass 3.334MB 19:14 IhrFussel I need a command to change the resolution I guess... 19:15 garywhite What about Bitmap? 19:17 IhrFussel convert -resample gemetry? 19:17 IhrFussel geometry* I don't know how to write the geometry values 19:20 IhrFussel convert gives me too many options... -resize -sample -resample..... 19:21 agaran IhrFussel: what is that image? 19:22 IhrFussel agaran, a Christmas pic supposed to be shown on login 19:22 agaran oh, I thought it is some public mod so I could help with resize 19:22 agaran I'd go either for convert -resize or use gimp to do work 19:24 IhrFussel agaran, so just convert pic.png -resize 50% ? 19:24 IhrFussel Or even 25%? 19:27 garywhite Hello DuCake 19:27 DuCake hello garywhite 19:29 IhrFussel Seems like it worked: PNG 480x320 480x320+0+0 8-bit DirectClass 238KB 19:33 IhrFussel Here is the exact error when using the JPG file: Could not load image while creating texture 19:34 IhrFussel I'll test it with the PNG file as soon as my server isn't full of players anymore 19:36 twoelk hm, I use a jpg as background in the news mod 19:38 IhrFussel twoelk, just to make sure: Your file is inside the textures folder of your mod? And you define the form inside init.lua as "image[X,Y;W,H;image.jpg]" ? 19:38 twoelk uhm 19:38 twoelk formspec = formspec.."background[-0.22,-0.60;13,11.3;news_background.jpg]" 19:39 IhrFussel And news_background.jpg is in textures folder? 19:40 twoelk yep 19:40 IhrFussel wait...does the image name HAVE TO contain the mod name? 19:40 VanessaE it's highly advised. 19:42 IhrFussel Okay I renamed it now 19:43 DuCake it doesn't functionally have to; as i understand it's a way to avoid name clashes... 19:43 DuCake namespacing 19:43 VanessaE basically that, yes 19:44 IhrFussel But do I use background[] even if I want the image to be in the foreground? 19:44 VanessaE that's how it works for formspecs more or less. it's the "background" that goes behind other widgets 19:45 VanessaE look at signs_lib's text entry formspec for an example 19:45 IhrFussel VanessaE, but smartshop mod uses image[] for item display and it works correctly 19:47 IhrFussel What i want is an image that is only displayed below some other text form so I thought image[] would be better for that task 19:47 twoelk looks like this ingame blob:https://imgur.com/b4b3d7a0-7e1e-45d0-946f-05c275e5e66e or rather used to as I have changed the splashscreen since 19:49 twoelk https://i.imgur.com/79N3KMx.jpg oops 19:50 twoelk as you can clearly see at the top, a badly shrunk jpg 19:51 twoelk artifacts all over the place 19:53 DuCake ihrfussel i can imagine, you can make a large formspec, add a label around 1,1 and then just load your image as "background" 19:53 twoelk that's how the info mod does it 19:58 twoelk I used the news mod from here: https://github.com/Bremaweb/news 20:00 twoelk pff not my linking day today ; wrong link it seems 20:01 twoelk https://github.com/MinetestForFun/server-minetestforfun/tree/master/mods/news thats the one 20:03 * twoelk notices new functions in that mod 20:21 IhrFussel twoelk, PNG file works so I guess it's a bug 20:23 twoelk hm, maybe a new bug as I use that mod on my Isarnho server which runs an old mt-0414version 20:24 twoelk (server has not run for long for some time now) 20:24 IhrFussel My server runs 0.4.14-dev from Oct 20:25 octacian from Oct? lol who's Oct? 20:25 twoelk some guy with too many arms? 20:25 octacian :rotfl: 20:25 octacian (not) 20:26 octacian seriously, who's Oct? 20:26 twoelk or, using old roman tradition; the eighth sibling born 20:27 twoelk Juno and Julius have probably shifted the eighth month to tenth though - so that doesn't fit anymore 20:29 octacian wuh? 20:29 octacian ok, I do know my history, but just wuh? 20:29 Amaz That is a shame twoelk. It can be confusing, with the old seventh month as the new ninth, and so forth. 20:30 * twoelk is bored at office so he might be talking/typing rubish 20:30 Amaz Nah, not at all. It all makes perfect sense ;) 20:32 emuPhone Oct is not a name, it's a shorter way of saying octopus 20:32 octacian ok, now, WHAT? 20:32 emuPhone he got his server from an octopus 20:32 octacian so, IhrFussel got his server from an octopus.. 20:32 octacian ok, now, I AM CONFUSED. lol 20:33 emuPhone octopi are extremely smart 20:33 emuPhone they have created waterproof computers 20:33 twoelk and they got their hands in a lot of things 20:33 emuPhone and they tap into the internet lines in the sea 20:33 emuPhone and downloaded minetest 20:33 twoelk they simply got more- er--- arms 20:34 IhrFussel The octopus built it by "hand" :P 20:34 octacian ok, nvm. 20:35 * twoelk suspects Cthulhu might be behind this 20:35 emuPhone they compiled it by seaource 20:36 IhrFussel twoelk, you didn't visit my server since...Oct xD 20:36 Amaz xD 20:36 twoelk really? 20:37 IhrFussel Since octopus took over 20:38 IhrFussel Yeah I added quite a few mods in that time plus many new commands 20:40 twoelk I think the last thing I did was fix some stuff of the path and hut next to my house and wondering wether I should look for new land as all my nieghbors built rather close 20:40 twoelk the place has become somewhat crowded 20:41 IhrFussel twoelk, we built an entirely new Spawn area that just opened today...you'd surely find an empty place for some building xP 20:42 * twoelk can't find the song the octopus sang while building the raft in Misty The Mischievous Mermaid 20:51 IhrFussel twoelk, I also improved the level up messages...now all level ups are merged into a single message and it will appear MAX once per 5 minutes 20:52 twoelk ah, I remember that spaming chat 20:54 IhrFussel And I added a command to hide/show player messages 20:55 IhrFussel And another that enables "moon physics" and lets you jump 20 nodes high 20:57 agaran Hmm, moon physics sounds fun, do you need airtight suit to breathe too? 20:58 IhrFussel Lol haha...no it's just the way people jump that's modified but it's fun 20:59 agaran and then, 'mare vaporum' 'mare imbirum' ?;) 20:59 IhrFussel agaran, falling 200 nodes without any damage :D 20:59 * twoelk finds out the singer of Ocky's song was also the voice actor for the Daleks in Dr.Who 21:00 agaran IhrFussel :) sounds like fun 21:01 IhrFussel agaran, you didn't visit in a while either ._. 21:01 agaran yes... now my computer can do 3-6fps at best.. 21:01 agaran not overly appealing to do anything.. 21:01 IhrFussel What happened? 21:02 agaran had to return gfx I had 21:02 * twoelk will be visiting family over the holidays - in remote places with slow internet 21:03 IhrFussel Graphics card? 21:03 agaran yep 21:03 IhrFussel Purchase a cheaper one for now 21:04 agaran sure if I find fitting one that does not cost arm and leg (has to be passive cooling and no external power connector) 21:04 * twoelk is therefor looking forward to long evenings with board games - or cards with nice graphics on them 21:04 agaran twoelk: like magic the gathering ?;) 21:04 IhrFussel agaran, got a phone/tablet? Play there x) 21:05 octacian I've got a $180 GTX 750Ti, get's me 60fps with all shader setting on. 21:05 agaran IhrFussel: phone has win CE 6.1.. ;) so.. -noway, no tablet either 21:05 agaran octacian: no point to put card that will double power consumption of machine I have nearly 99% of time running, where I only sometimes play in MT.. 21:06 octacian true.. 21:06 IhrFussel Just compile Minetest for your Win Phone...shouldn't be too hard /s 21:06 twoelk I really wish I had the time and will to pimp my old computers - such nice cases and motherboards so outdated 21:07 agaran IhrFussel: for WIN CE 6.1? 21:07 octacian I wonder how much power my tower draws... 700W power supply almost 24/7.. 21:07 agaran octacian: mine has I think 160W psu.. ;) 21:07 octacian ok... lol 21:07 IhrFussel agaran, I'm not serious by the way xD 21:07 agaran twoelk: thats other thing.. I have way too many computers stashed in places I did not even powerup in past decade.. 21:07 agaran IhrFussel: ah.. 21:09 IhrFussel I'm using an Intel Celeron from 2005 as my everyday computer in 2016 21:10 twoelk I did away with three old towers some time ago, still got two useless ones left. Not counting my ancient 386sx that I just can't do awy with as it was my first computer worth the name 21:10 octacian agaran: what are the full specs of your computer? 21:11 twoelk IhrFussel: my everyday computer was an oudtated cheap one purchased in 2007 :-D 21:12 agaran octacian: this one? HP Compaq dc5800 Microtower with E8200 @ 2.66GHz 21:12 octacian huh not too bad honestly 21:12 agaran it is not bad, just onboard graphics is disaster 21:12 octacian yeah. 21:13 agaran and 8200 was one of best cpu in that family.. 21:13 octacian At least they work at all, unlike my server. that's why it's a server. 21:13 twoelk I use portable software most of the time so I can just plug my work environment into some badass pc at office and do the demanding stuff there 21:13 IhrFussel A player on my server just requested their password to be changed to "12345" x.x 21:13 agaran twoelk: heh, I wish I could do that.. @work I can easilly grab something with two 8 core/16thread xeons, 128-256G ram.. 21:14 agaran IhrFussel: I would change it, just first convert it to base85 at least..;) 21:14 twoelk agaran: what software do you need portable? 21:15 agaran twoelk: it is not problem with software, I use linux so.. I can recompile 99.999% of world.. 21:15 IhrFussel agaran, lol...the funny part is I already changed the password yesterday and the player found it too complicated to remember I guess 21:15 agaran it is just IT policy there.. and I am not so keen to drag my stuff to work and back.. 21:16 agaran IhrFussel: looool :) too complicated, as having 32 characters? 21:16 twoelk well, I do the IT at office ... so ... 21:16 agaran twoelk: /me too, how otherwise I would be toying with set of machines that together has 2TB ram and 1PB hdd.. 21:17 Fixer I can easily grab at work Pentium III and Windows 98 SE 21:17 twoelk although I was never hired for that - some 15 years ago 21:17 IhrFussel No it's also just numbers but not as easy as 12345 at least...I always tell my players to always include at least 1 letter and several numbers 21:17 agaran IDDQD and IDKFA make fine passwords..;) 21:17 garywhite back 21:17 Fixer no 21:17 agaran (if anyone still remembers doom codes) 21:17 Fixer they are easily brutforced 21:18 agaran Fixer, ^^ 21:18 octacian The most annoying thing about my computer is the RAM. Though it has 8GB, it's only 1067 MGhz... 21:18 agaran Fixer, I have been using john the ripper 10 years ago..;) 21:18 Fixer tell your players to use PWGEN 21:18 agaran and I do use pwgen daily.. so.. 21:18 Fixer some people even use 1 as a password 21:18 Fixer in minetest 21:19 Fixer and in other applications 21:19 twoelk bah - think some sentance and use that for password 21:19 IhrFussel Sometimes I fear that one of my moderators or another player with more privs chose an easy one for the account... 21:19 twoelk swat7d <- snow white and the 7 dwarves 21:20 garywhite octacian: Your PC has only 1067MHz CPU? 21:20 octacian garywhite: no.. RAM. 21:20 agaran garywhite: not that odd, some atom or similar energy-efficient things have relativelly low clock 21:20 garywhite ohhh ok 21:21 agaran octacian: then some of your ram is slow.. grab dmidecode, check which one.. 21:21 octacian cpu is Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz 21:21 octacian agaran: AFAIK both 4GB sticks are both slow. I need to get new RAM, but that's expensive... lol 21:21 agaran my box was unstable with uneven memory populated across banks.. even if manual says it works.. 21:21 garywhite Oh ok, wow. Mine is Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz 21:21 twoelk maybe it has just become dusty and will fail soon :-O 21:21 agaran heh. new toys 21:22 garywhite octacian it doesn't cost that much for RAM... 21:22 octacian Note that the CPU has 8 cores, 4 real, 4 virtual. 21:22 APileOfStickz1 How have I quit the server 21:23 agaran garywhite: say that after looking at ECC ram prices.. ;) 21:23 agaran (and some boards apparently -want- ecc ddr3 only..) 21:23 octacian garywhite: depends on how fast you want the RAM to be. and how much you want... 21:24 * twoelk hasn't oppened a pc case in ages 21:24 * agaran does that often.. 21:25 * octacian thinks he has to open a PC case too much... 21:25 agaran too much, you mean, it is easier to put rotating door instead of side of enclosure to not stop you from opening it?;) 21:26 octacian that'd be nice... Rather than having to take out two screws for each side. 21:26 agaran well.. I am used to need to pull thing out of 19" rack first.. then opening it.. so.. 21:26 twoelk oh there are some nice quick opening ones 21:26 agaran screws aren't stopping me much 21:27 twoelk I still have one with some lever you pulled 21:29 IhrFussel Off for now, bye =) 21:31 twoelk undtschuess 22:43 kaeza greetings 22:43 emunandPC hello 22:44 Ducky1 Hello 22:45 garywhite Hi 22:46 longerstaff13 hi 22:47 PsychoVision Also hi 22:50 Markow Hi 23:21 as2j hi 23:21 as2j first time minetest (and minecraft) player here 23:21 as2j so i installed on my private server the minetestserver package 23:21 as2j started it and it runs 23:21 as2j now how can i configure that not everybody can join? 23:25 est31 you can set a default password 23:25 est31 and only tell it to people who you know 23:26 est31 also make sure to make it not announce on the serverlist 23:26 est31 both are settings in minetest.conf 23:34 as2j i set default_password = testpassword 23:35 as2j and ran the server with: minetestserver --gameid minetest --config /etc/minetest/minetest.conf 23:35 as2j however i still can join with no password :( 23:37 as2j oh no it seems only to be for the user which already connected before i required it 23:37 as2j so how to delete so the server doesnt know this user existed? 23:43 GreenDimond i am trying to build the latest dev. i allready have an older build of the dev. It isn't working. Please see this post (by me): https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=15994&p=242474#p242474 and help :( 23:43 Fixer as2j: you join as a simple player? or as admin? 23:43 Fixer nevermind 23:43 as2j simple player 23:43 Fixer it should work 23:44 as2j where does it store its known players? 23:44 as2j so i can just remove that file 23:45 GreenDimond under the 'players' folder in 'YOURWORLD' folder in 'worlds'. 23:45 GreenDimond thats where that is 23:45 GreenDimond i am assuming that is what you r talking about :P 23:46 as2j thanks 23:46 GreenDimond np :) 23:46 emunandPC testing 23:47 emunandPC okay let me try again 23:47 GreenDimond can anyone help meh? 23:47 emunandPC why is /g/ here? 23:47 emunandPC reeeeee normies 23:47 emunandPC what are you using GreenDiamond? 23:47 GreenDimond xubuntu 23:47 emunandPC then just install the package 23:47 GreenDimond you did not read the forum post 23:48 as2j and i cannot set my password as a normal user via /setpassword ? 23:48 GreenDimond or you would know what my problem is 23:49 emunandPC https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3837 23:49 emunandPC here you go greendiamond 23:49 GreenDimond not MT GAME 23:49 emunandPC this shoild help you 23:49 GreenDimond MT DEV 23:49 GreenDimond devel version 23:49 GreenDimond latest 23:49 emunandPC this is MT DEV 23:49 GreenDimond unstable 23:50 emunandPC it should be 23:50 GreenDimond https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds 23:50 GreenDimond daily 23:50 emunandPC yes i know 23:50 emunandPC the command pulls it from git 23:50 emunandPC which is updated daily 23:51 GreenDimond but that command replaces the stable MT does it not? 23:51 emunandPC no, it doesn't 23:52 emunandPC it just matters where you run it 23:52 emunandPC just use the portable edition 23:52 GreenDimond |:| 23:52 GreenDimond wow 23:52 GreenDimond you are no help 23:52 GreenDimond i allready have minetest 23:52 GreenDimond i allready have stable 23:52 GreenDimond and i have daily 23:52 GreenDimond i want to UPDATE the daily ver 23:53 emunandPC this is how you update it then! 23:53 GreenDimond run cd minetest; git pull; make -j$(nproc) ? 23:53 emunandPC no 23:53 emunandPC https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3837 23:53 emunandPC this forum post 23:53 emunandPC "downloads and compiles Minetest Git" 23:53 GreenDimond i know 23:53 emunandPC the git is updated daily 23:53 GreenDimond cd minetest; git pull; make -j$(nproc) is what it says 23:54 GreenDimond "to update" @ bottom of post 23:54 octacian GreenDimond: unless you compiled from source originally, you have to do it the other way. 23:54 emunandPC i am talking about a different forum post 23:54 emunandPC wait hold on 23:55 GreenDimond hah. hah. hah. i am on that forum post. 23:55 GreenDimond the one you linked. 23:55 GreenDimond octacian: wat? 23:55 emunandPC then use the portable install and move it manually 23:56 emunandPC the bottom code doesn't seem to work 23:56 emunandPC all it does is move the directory 23:56 GreenDimond i orginally ran (to build daily): sudo apt-get install -y git build-essential libirrlicht-dev libgettextpo0 libfreetype6-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev libluajit-5.1-dev liblua5.1-0-dev libleveldb-dev; cd; git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git; cd minetest/games; git clone https://github.co 23:56 as2j i can not script my player in minetest? 23:56 emunandPC you can do it manually with a gui or the terminal 23:56 GreenDimond rubenwardy said run this to update it: git pull origin master && make -j$(nproc) 23:57 GreenDimond but idk what to do with that. 23:57 octacian GreenDimand: huh then the update command should work. did you move or delete the "minetest" directory? 23:57 GreenDimond nope 23:57 GreenDimond why would i do that 23:57 GreenDimond octacian 23:57 octacian well, then what error does the update command give you? 23:57 GreenDimond what exactly IS the update command? 23:58 GreenDimond how do I use git pull origin master && make -j$(nproc) 23:58 emunandPC what is the output of it? 23:58 octacian cd minetest; git pull; make -j$(nproc) 23:58 GreenDimond i paste it into terminal as is and that obviously aint right 23:58 emunandPC does it say anything? 23:58 octacian what do you mean it isn't right? Have you not even tried to see what the result is yet? 23:58 emunandPC or does it do nothing? 23:59 GreenDimond i pasted git pull origin master && make -j$(nproc) into terminal and it said stuff about repos git not found. lemme try what you said