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00:01 paramat i seem to remember that drowning can now be enabled in any defined node, but perhaps it cant be in the "air" node due to that being hardcoded ... :|
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00:02 VanessaE kaeza: I patched over the sticky spot to just make it 'return' if 'text' comes up niol.
00:02 VanessaE nil*
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00:03 kaeza ok, that should work
00:03 kaeza don't know why MT does not let me write accented chars anywhere ._.
00:03 STHGOM I'M FAMOUS!!!
00:05 VanessaE you are?
00:05 VanessaE (who are you again?)
00:05 VanessaE ;)
00:06 VanessaE kaeza: I bet it's from writing *only* accented/non-supported chars
00:06 VanessaE there's another bug I didn't bother to fix, which I discovered earlier today.  delete all of the fonts and the mod can't initialize :)
00:07 kaeza well, duh
00:07 VanessaE (I figured no one would do that)
00:07 kaeza :P
00:07 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/​hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%​20-%2011052013%20-%2002:11:09%20PM.png
00:07 kaeza just yell "USER ERROR" in that case :P
00:07 VanessaE ^^^^^ from a performance test I was doing.
00:07 VanessaE fisher-price land :D
00:08 kaeza lol
00:08 VanessaE (I was testing the engine's mesh rendering without any textures - just the models)
00:09 STHGOM I'm on the IRC stats by sfan5! : http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
00:09 STHGOM ndjdjksisksk wrote the shortest lines, averaging 18.9 characters per line.
00:09 STHGOM STHGOM was tight-lipped, too, averaging 19.1 characters.
00:09 VanessaE STHGOM: yay \o/ : )
00:09 STHGOM :D
00:09 VanessaE I'm still the blabbermouth (-fingers?) of the channel :D
00:10 kaeza hah!
00:10 kaeza "Poor PilzAdam, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 15 times."
00:11 kaeza :D
00:11 VanessaE haha
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00:14 STHGOM Jordach is aggressive
00:14 STHGOM :D
00:15 STHGOM JamesTait brings happiness to the world. 42.8% lines contained smiling faces. :)
00:15 STHGOM D:
00:16 STHGOM what about these faces: :D
00:18 paramat i love the look of fisher-price land 8} im always amazed how good ultra simple textures look
00:19 STHGOM :D
00:19 STHGOM and there compatible almost anywhere!
00:21 paramat however my understanding is that there isnt much performance increase between plain 1x1 and lets say a detailed 16x16, because both have tiny image files
00:21 VanessaE paramat: those weren't "ultra-simple" textures - those were *no* textures at all :D
00:21 paramat V, even better heh
00:22 VanessaE basically,  find /home/minetest/.minetest -type f -name *.png -exec rm \{\} \;
00:22 VanessaE (and then fill in homedecor's sign font to avoid the previously-mentioned crash)
00:22 paramat i dont notice any performance increase between my minimal textures and default
00:23 paramat okay thanks
00:23 VanessaE (and search/remove textures from /usr/share/minetest also)
00:24 VanessaE kahrl: if you pushed http_fetch now, would it break anything?
00:24 VanessaE s/pushed/were to push/
00:30 VanessaE d'oh, wrong channel.  That was meant for -dev
00:30 STHGOM :D
00:30 * VanessaE shrugs and adds a few more random lines and words to sfan5's statistics page :D
00:31 JamesTait :-P
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00:43 VanessaE sfan5: *poke*
00:45 stormchaser3000 lol
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00:46 Coltenellis Hey
00:46 OldCoder Yeh
00:46 OldCoder Reactor will be awake soon. Is anybody able to comment on the serialize mobf issue?
00:47 VanessaE no clue, OldCoder
00:47 kaeza "Most referenced nicks" --> "i"
00:47 OldCoder VanessaE, thanks
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00:48 kaeza hi Coltenellis
00:48 OldCoder kaeza, do you have any thoughts on the error
00:48 kaeza nope :/
00:48 OldCoder k ty ok
00:49 us`0gb I don't know what I was thinking .... Building a 32767 node game was a bad idea on my part.
00:49 us`0gb I'm going back to my minimalistic approach, but making it less minimalistic.
00:49 VanessaE why?
00:50 stormchaser3000 lol us'0gb
00:50 us`0gb For one, I'm not an artist.
00:50 us`0gb I can't draw all that.
00:50 VanessaE us`0gb: protip:  there are lots of open-source-friendly artists on commons.wikimedia.org and clker.com :-)
00:50 dafull97 Coltenellis, sup
00:50 us`0gb Second, I'm not you. You're the one with the huge fun game. I'm the guy that makes the minimalistic game very closely tied to the default game.
00:51 kaeza us`0gb, make that 40000 nodes, and somebody will come up with 15bit color wool :P
00:51 kaeza (the extra ones are for misc nodes :P)
00:51 Coltenellis dafull97, nothing much you?
00:51 VanessaE us`0gb: speaking of minimalistic, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/​hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%​20-%2011052013%20-%2002:11:09%20PM.png
00:51 us`0gb VanessaE: The plan was to make that many nodes myself. If I get help (for example, with the textures), it's not the insane game I was trying to build.
00:52 dafull97 check tabs at top you should see one from me, Coltenellis
00:52 Coltenellis I do, and I'll switch.
00:52 us`0gb Yeah .... Minimalistic game, not texture-less game.
00:53 dafull97 Coltenellis, good
00:54 us`0gb Anyway, I'm going to try to do my work in using only three new nodes. Plus, all regular items will be changed into nodes, for several reasons, and behavior of the game will be tweaked making most things that are consumed renewable.
00:54 us`0gb Sort of a middle ground.
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00:55 us`0gb I don't know what to do about default:nyancat and its rainbow. Those are furnace fuel, so should be renewable, but making them renewable makes them too plentiful.
00:56 EvergreenTree Sup people
00:56 us`0gb Hello EvergreenTree!
00:56 kaeza sky
00:56 us`0gb Death rate.
00:57 VanessaE hi Evergreen
00:59 us`0gb Working with fire should be interesting as well. A bug in the game prevents me from dampening it directly.
01:04 EvergreenTree Hey VanessaE what linux distro do you use?
01:04 VanessaE Xubuntu 13.10
01:05 stormchaser3000 nice xubuntu
01:05 us`0gb Xubuntu is fun. It's my favorite of the *buntus.
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01:05 stormchaser3000 lol
01:05 stormchaser3000 i use ubuntu lucid
01:05 stormchaser3000 10.04
01:06 kaeza O_o
01:06 stormchaser3000 ikr
01:06 us`0gb I keep a copy of Xubuntu in a virtual machine for my courses.
01:06 EvergreenTree Xubuntu is awesome
01:07 VanessaE stormchaser3000: you need to upgrade soon.
01:07 EvergreenTree I am using ubuntu +xfce atm (12.04 LTS)
01:08 us`0gb 10.04 is LTS, right? So it should be fine until 2015.
01:12 stormchaser3000 i nnow
01:12 stormchaser3000 but i can't i can only download stuff with 14.7 kb a sec internet
01:12 stormchaser3000 and tha is the down speed
01:14 VanessaE stormchaser3000: had you just upgraded when you were advised tom you'd be done by now :P
01:14 VanessaE to,*
01:16 stormchaser3000 no
01:16 stormchaser3000 i almost had it done
01:16 stormchaser3000 but my internet slowed down just before it aws downloaded
01:16 stormchaser3000 :(
01:16 stormchaser3000 so i stoped it
01:16 * stormchaser3000 is waiting til the end of the month
01:17 stormchaser3000 when my internet is faster
01:23 OldCoder Would anybody like to try to connect to a new and large world?
01:24 OldCoder You will need the latest clients (less than 2 days old)
01:24 OldCoder I can provide one for Windows
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01:28 us`0gb Do you have an address?
01:29 us`0gb I think my client is from yesterday, but I forget.
01:29 us`0gb Yes, definitely yesterday, because I upgraded to play with string seeds.
01:29 us`0gb It's such a simple feature, but I love it.
01:30 OldCoder us`0gb, Shall I give you a preloaded cache?
01:31 OldCoder It will greatly speed up the load
01:31 us`0gb Okay, sounds great. Thanks!
01:31 OldCoder Allow 15 minutes for me to finish loading it myself and I will post the cache
01:31 OldCoder You are welcome to connect now
01:31 us`0gb Okay, no rush.
01:31 OldCoder But it will be quite slow
01:31 us`0gb WHat is the address though?
01:32 OldCoder Server is minetest.org
01:32 OldCoder There are two worlds this week; I will start the 2nd in a minute
01:32 OldCoder 1st world is new. Very large. At port: 30017 The name is Pripyat
01:32 OldCoder 2nd world is Zeg9 Zegaton. At port: 30015
01:32 OldCoder I will start both now
01:32 us`0gb Okay, cool. WHich am I connecting to?
01:33 us`0gb (I'll still wait for the cache though.)
01:33 OldCoder Both are up
01:33 OldCoder Try the new world 30017 as reactor will want feedback
01:33 us`0gb (I have some patch work to do for a bit anyway.)
01:33 OldCoder He is in Russia and should wake up soon
01:44 OldCoder us`0gb, done and preparing cache zip. I don't see the world. Let me give you fly and so on once you are in.
01:44 us`0gb OldCoder: Okay, cool. Standing by.
01:45 OldCoder ETA 2 minutes
01:46 * us`0gb needs to find a way to automate his minimal/minetest_game updates
01:46 NakedFury the files we download when we join a server, are they saved in our system for faster access to server later?
01:46 us`0gb NakedFury: Correct.
01:47 us`0gb I don't know if that's why they are stred, but it has that effect.
01:47 us`0gb *stored
01:48 OldCoder NakedFury, and they can be ZIPped and shared
01:48 OldCoder us`0gb, upload aborted. Retrying. Worth another shot. If it continues I will upload later from home.
01:48 OldCoder I am at work and the network is substandard
01:49 us`0gb Minetesting from work? Ha ha.
01:49 OldCoder It is nearly 6:00pm here
01:50 OldCoder And I work 7 days a week
01:50 OldCoder Often 16 hours
01:50 us`0gb My condolences. That must be tiring.
01:50 EvergreenTree OldCoder, it's 8:00pm here
01:50 EvergreenTree That's a lot of work
01:51 OldCoder EvergreenTree, Eh. It is an odd period.
01:51 OldCoder Usually much less. More like 10 to 13 hours.
01:51 OldCoder And last weekend was largely Minetest
01:52 OldCoder Upload might make it this time
01:53 us`0gb NICE! I just tested to see what Minetest would do in case there were multiple modules with the same name. Minetest properly reports the name conflict and aborts!
01:53 OldCoder Good
01:55 us`0gb I thought it would just choose one (possibly dependent on order of discovery), and feared it would run both init.luas, but bind one directory as the canonical one for get_mod_path().
01:56 OldCoder us`0gb, The world is there. What is the correct format for the /time command?
01:56 OldCoder 71% uploaded for cache
01:57 us`0gb "/time 6000" is about mid-day. I don't know what format the number is in though.
01:57 OldCoder Hmm
01:57 OldCoder I forget how to fly. I need to find the world again so I can give you the coords.
01:58 NakedFury I think its k or j to fly
01:58 us`0gb Oops, I'm out of time. I'll pick up the cache and try connecting when I get out of my seminar in about an hour.
01:58 OldCoder us`0gb, I will provide the link to others here
01:58 us`0gb "k" is fly, "j' is fast.
01:58 OldCoder Got it c u
01:59 us`0gb (I can stay on and chat, but I can't run the seminar on my system AND Minetest at the same time.)
01:59 OldCoder Yes of course
02:02 OldCoder NakedFury, wish to try this?
02:03 NakedFury ok
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02:15 OldCoder NakedFury, the ZIP link is:
02:15 * us`0gb franticly clicks the blank space trying to download
02:15 OldCoder http://minetest.org/clients​/minetest-cache-131105.zip
02:15 OldCoder The cache folder there replaces your current cache folder
02:16 us`0gb Oh, that's easier.
02:16 OldCoder Find the current cache folder and rename it
02:16 OldCoder Then unpack this one there
02:16 OldCoder I will grant both of you all privs
02:16 OldCoder Find the world for me... it is there but I lost it
02:16 kaeza lol us`0gb
02:16 OldCoder There is some type of break in mobf but the world seems to run
02:22 OldCoder Well, I found *part* of the world
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02:25 NakedFury what server
02:26 NakedFury and what do you mean by find the world?
02:26 NakedFury that is something I havent understood in this entire conversation
02:26 OldCoder NakedFury, It is fine
02:27 OldCoder After replace cache you can connect to two worlds tonight
02:27 OldCoder server is minetest.org for both
02:27 us`0gb minetest.org:30017
02:27 OldCoder port 30015 is Zeg9 Zegaton world
02:27 OldCoder Well established
02:27 OldCoder port 30017 is a huge new world. I have been shown the map. But did it convert? I only see a small part of it.
02:27 OldCoder reactor needs to look at it and tell us if the world is actually there.
02:28 OldCoder I can't find it :-)
02:28 OldCoder NakedFury, what are the fly and teleport permission grant commands?
02:28 OldCoder 63, 100, -16
02:28 OldCoder will put you above the part I found
02:28 OldCoder Ah I C U
02:28 OldCoder NakedFury, what are the fly and teleport permission grant commands?
02:28 NakedFury im not sure the commands for those. I always do grant all
02:29 NakedFury I think fly is simply gly
02:29 NakedFury fly
02:29 OldCoder What is grant all
02:29 NakedFury ./grant name Fly
02:29 us`0gb /grant NakedFury fly,teleport
02:29 OldCoder Have fun
02:29 us`0gb It needs to be lower case.
02:29 OldCoder It worked. See if the world is there. If not, try Zegaton at port 30015
02:29 NakedFury all= gives the players ALL priviledges. basicly make the guy able to do all
02:30 OldCoder Both worlds are experimental and using latest stuff
02:30 OldCoder NakedFury, you have that for now here
02:31 OldCoder Odd
02:31 OldCoder I see more of the world now
02:31 OldCoder This is about some type of view range parameter
02:31 OldCoder Is there a setting I should change?
02:32 OldCoder The whole world is there
02:32 OldCoder It is simply invisible until you are up close
02:32 OldCoder
02:32 OldCoder Hmm. NakedFury us`0gb VanessaE thexyz is that normal now? Or do I need to change a setting?
02:32 us`0gb Hit shift +.
02:33 us`0gb THat's a litteral plus, not a plus period.
02:33 us`0gb If the view range is set to five nodes, it messes up and goes to zero nodes.
02:33 NakedFury actually just hitting + or - changes view range
02:34 us`0gb For me, plus requires shift, minus requires a lack of shift.
02:35 OldCoder us`0gb, what should minetest.conf setting be?
02:36 us`0gb I don't know. I'll look it up.
02:37 us`0gb OldCoder: I think it's "viewing_range_nodes_min".
02:37 OldCoder What would you recommend
02:37 OldCoder NakedFury, what do you think of the world?
02:37 OldCoder There is a nice building near me
02:37 NakedFury exploring it
02:37 OldCoder 234, 57, 144
02:37 us`0gb It depends on your machine. THe default, 35, is usually fine.
02:37 NakedFury I like how the roads look old abandoned
02:37 OldCoder us`0gb, Maybe it was too low for some reason
02:38 us`0gb If you are not seeing nodes at that setting, that setting isn't the issue.
02:38 us`0gb To see nodes, you just need to have it higher than 5.
02:39 us`0gb Or maybe higher than 15. 15 works, 5 doesn't. I don;t know where the threshold is exactly.
02:40 EvergreenTree Gotta go
02:40 EvergreenTree See you guys
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02:44 NakedFury found a race track
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03:01 OldCoder Back
03:01 OldCoder NakedFury, us`0gb the world seems to work
03:01 OldCoder It is supposedly a huge MC World
03:01 OldCoder I need to go soon
03:01 OldCoder Tell reactor where it is
03:01 OldCoder THe only bug so far is that modf (I think) has a startup error about serialize.lua and sdata being nil
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03:01 OldCoder So I don't know if there are animals
03:02 OldCoder iqualfragile, Hi! There is a large new world
03:02 us`0gb Okay, I'll tell reactor when I next see him/her.
03:02 us`0gb SOme of the textures are missing.
03:02 OldCoder Information for everybody follows shortly
03:02 OldCoder us`0gb, Tell him that
03:02 us`0gb Okay.
03:02 OldCoder I added his textures in worldmods
03:02 OldCoder
03:04 OldCoder # CACHE! Use this for Windows or Linux!
03:04 OldCoder http://minetest.org/clients​/minetest-cache-131105.zip
03:04 OldCoder # Use that and my worlds will go zoom!
03:04 OldCoder
03:04 OldCoder # Windows Client - Replace the cache with the above
03:04 OldCoder http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-131102.zip
03:04 OldCoder # Should work with both 32 and 64 bits
03:04 OldCoder
03:04 us`0gb Is that for all your worlds, OldCoder?
03:04 OldCoder Server: minetest.org
03:04 OldCoder Ports: 30015 for Zegaton and 30017 for Pripyat
03:05 OldCoder It is all temporary but I will release updated cache and clients
03:05 OldCoder One cache
03:05 OldCoder Should work for all of my worlds
03:05 OldCoder When we are done
03:05 OldCoder
03:05 * OldCoder hereby announces the beta release of Pripyat World! Have fun!
03:05 OldCoder Do not build too much, these worlds are temporary
03:05 us`0gb Okay, cool. I should pick up VanessaE's cache at some point as well. Does ShadowNinja have a cache?
03:06 OldCoder us`0gb, You can make your own caches
03:06 VanessaE my cache needs updated
03:06 OldCoder us`0gb, Just connect to a world and collect the files out of the resulting cache/media folder
03:06 OldCoder I believe you can probably merge the resulting folders
03:06 OldCoder
03:06 us`0gb Yeah, I just merged yours with mine, I didn't replace.
03:07 us`0gb I should have replaced though. I need to throw out my cache anyway.
03:13 OldCoder One step at a time
03:13 OldCoder us`0gb, we will figure out the missing images
03:13 OldCoder Tell reactor I will contact him later about world edits
03:13 us`0gb Okay, cool.
03:13 OldCoder
03:13 us`0gb Will do.
03:16 OldCoder I will return later. The two upgraded worlds will stay up overnight. May reboot them for fixes tomorrow. Other worlds will be added.
03:16 OldCoder 20 worlds will live again!
03:16 * OldCoder salutes and exits
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03:40 VanessaE sfan5: around?
03:58 iqualfragile VanessaE: unlikely, its 4:48 in the morning around here
03:58 VanessaE no worries, left him a message.
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06:30 sfan5 VanessaE: *poke*
06:35 sfan5 :-/
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07:10 * us`0gb sighs
07:10 us`0gb It seems bones can be used to kill other peoples' locked chests again ...
07:11 us`0gb Oops, missed a line. Scratch that.
07:12 us`0gb It can still be used to make half doors though, and half doors are quite buggy.
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07:16 john_minetest Hello everypony.
07:21 kaeza hey john_minetest
07:26 john_minetest Lol, leaving in 4 minutes for university :D
07:31 john_minetest cya
07:34 us`0gb Is it possible to redefine functions that are attached to "userdata" objects? I seem to be able to call inv:get_size(), but if I attempt to defile it the normal way, I get an error. Is there some sort of other way to do it?
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07:38 kaeza us`0gb, nope
07:38 kaeza at least not from Lua
07:38 us`0gb Okay. Thanks!
07:39 kaeza (the long answer is that userdata does not actually "contain" the functions, but rather are obtained through their __index metamethod)
07:39 us`0gb Ah, I see.
07:40 us`0gb Okay ... That might be usable ....
07:41 kaeza well, theoretically you could just modify the userdata metatable, but I have not tried that
07:41 us`0gb Do you know where that table is?
07:42 kaeza getmetatable(val)
07:42 us`0gb Great. Thank you!
07:42 kaeza np :)
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09:41 adama_ hello all
09:41 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Stress Awareness Day!  :-D
09:41 adama_ lol
09:45 adama_ wondering if any one know how to disable fire on a server or what the command is
09:49 adama_ ok i figured it out thans all
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10:11 kaeza that was quick
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10:41 reactor Ehlo.
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10:53 reactor ПРОМЕЖBULIT
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10:55 reactor OldCoder: how's the progress?
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11:47 OldCoder reactor, hello
11:48 OldCoder reactor, I assume people were asleep by the time you arrived
11:48 OldCoder The world is running and seems to work
11:49 OldCoder There are some textures related to Technic, Animals, and Food missing. And the "mobf" mod, which is apparently needed for Animals, is throwing an error. But the world is there and is said to be interesting.
11:52 OldCoder
11:52 OldCoder Is anybody else able to talk a little about missing Technic, Animals, and Food textures or about a "serialize.lua" error related to "mobf" ?
11:52 OldCoder
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11:54 reactor OldCoder: why would we need these there?
11:55 OldCoder We may not and they can be removed
11:55 reactor Also, what mods would you recommend if I want to make some interiors more detailed?
11:55 OldCoder I will talk further in 5 to 10 minutes
11:55 OldCoder I will show you a current mods list
11:55 reactor Well, mobs would be good.
11:55 OldCoder And I will explain what has been done. We can also proceed with the "scheme" that you were working on
11:55 reactor mk
11:55 reactor I've split that scheme in about ten pieces.
11:55 OldCoder For "mobs" I will need somebody who can explain a "serialize.lua" error message
11:56 reactor mk
11:56 OldCoder I will confirm the world is still running and we will begin
11:56 OldCoder See you in 5 to 10 minutes; possibly 15
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11:59 reactor mk
12:01 kaeza reactor, homedecor :3
12:01 kaeza re: better interiors
12:02 kaeza and Living Room Furniture (lrfurn)
12:09 OldCoder Back
12:09 OldCoder reactor, here?
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12:13 reactor Yes.
12:14 reactor I think I will process the underground schemes on my own, then give you the new map.
12:14 reactor Because I've already made some more changes.
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12:17 OldCoder reactor, that is fine
12:17 OldCoder Shall we talk for a few minutes now? I will explain some things
12:19 reactor Yes.
12:21 reactor OldCoder: yes.
12:22 OldCoder I am nearly done with notes for you
12:22 OldCoder Wait briefly
12:23 OldCoder
12:24 OldCoder reactor, remarks follow. I will say done when done.
12:24 OldCoder
12:24 OldCoder Temporary link for Pripyat mod list: http://minetest.org/pripyatmt.txt
12:24 OldCoder
12:24 OldCoder Easy to add or remove mods
12:24 OldCoder
12:24 OldCoder Textures you provided are included
12:24 OldCoder
12:24 OldCoder Temporary zipped cache folder: minetest-cache-131105.zip
12:24 OldCoder The cache folder is needed to enter the world without a half hour delay
12:24 OldCoder The final cache may be smaller
12:24 OldCoder
12:24 OldCoder Oops
12:24 OldCoder was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
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12:25 reactor o_0
12:25 OldCoder That was considered a flood? Irritating but probably necessary
12:25 OldCoder reactor, You were not here last year
12:25 OldCoder Some degree of strictness is advisable
12:25 OldCoder To proceed...
12:25 OldCoder
12:25 OldCoder Temporary zipped cache folder: http://minetest.org/clients​/minetest-cache-131105.zip
12:26 OldCoder The cache folder is needed to enter the world without a half hour delay. The final cache may be smaller.
12:26 OldCoder
12:26 OldCoder Windows MT client (cache folder must be replaced): http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-131102.zip
12:26 OldCoder
12:26 OldCoder Client is believed to work with both Win 32 and Win 64 bits
12:26 OldCoder
12:26 OldCoder Server: minetest.org
12:26 OldCoder Current port: 30017
12:26 OldCoder World will run 24 hours a day but will reboot periodically for mod experiments
12:26 OldCoder
12:26 OldCoder There is an error in serialize.lua that says sdata is nil. I need somebody to comment on that or there may be no animals. There are also about 5 missing textures in Technic, Food, and Animals. Whether or not we use those mods, I'd like to ask you to find somebody who can comment.
12:27 OldCoder
12:27 OldCoder You can have FTP access later to upload or download "schemes" directly.
12:27 OldCoder
12:27 OldCoder The world has been converted from SQLite3 to LevelDB format. However, you may have SQLite3 versions exported for your use if you wish.
12:27 OldCoder
12:27 OldCoder Done. Is all of this satisfactory?
12:27 * OldCoder is At Your Service! :P
12:27 OldCoder
12:28 reactor Ty
12:28 reactor Uh. I'm confused.
12:28 * OldCoder assumes that these humble efforts are acceptable
12:28 OldCoder Questions?
12:29 reactor Idk
12:29 reactor Leveldb... hmm.
12:29 reactor What are the advantages?
12:30 reactor And is there a way to use it here, too?
12:30 OldCoder As follows:
12:31 OldCoder Advantages: 1. Much faster and more reliable.  2. No 4GB limit. Make a nice big world! 3. Can be converted back and forth to SQLite3. But only up to 4GB.
12:31 OldCoder Any Linux MT server can use LevelDB. Windows support is not ready.
12:31 OldCoder Done
12:32 reactor Hmm.
12:32 ruskie why is there a 4gb limit?
12:32 reactor Are there special optins I need to compile it with?
12:32 OldCoder Note: There are no requirements for LevelDB on the client side.
12:32 OldCoder There is no 4GB limit for LevelDB
12:32 ruskie I mean sqlite itself doesn't have those limits
12:32 reactor And, can singleplayer handle it?
12:32 ruskie so I'm wondering why there are
12:32 OldCoder But SQLite3 DOES have that limit
12:32 ruskie OldCoder, it doesn't
12:32 ruskie according to the sqlite pages
12:32 OldCoder In a MT context it does
12:32 ruskie ok
12:32 ruskie so implementation detail then
12:32 OldCoder This issue has broken several worlds
12:33 OldCoder Yes, apparently
12:33 OldCoder reactor, if you have a Linux box, you can have LevelDB
12:33 OldCoder It is now part of upstream
12:33 reactor Good.
12:33 OldCoder I have been polite for 1.5 years as people work hard on MT
12:33 ruskie but yeah I guess key value store would be better in such case
12:33 OldCoder But I told them if they didn't merge LevelDB I'd fork
12:34 * OldCoder is quite happy with MT now except for the slow network speed
12:34 OldCoder reactor, I will give you my LevelDB MT build script now if you wish it
12:34 OldCoder Shall I?
12:34 * ruskie more or less stopped playing all block based online games for a while... got tired of them
12:35 OldCoder ruskie, does that include MT? We must reignite the interest
12:35 ruskie that includes MT and MC ;)
12:35 ruskie and no I just get bored of sandbox games
12:35 OldCoder Well glad you are here. What exactly is a sandbox game?
12:35 ruskie MT is one example ;)
12:35 ruskie of a sandbox game
12:35 OldCoder I know
12:35 OldCoder But what is the definition?
12:36 ruskie you get a world defined by some limitations and are let lose in it
12:36 OldCoder That is a very broad category!!
12:36 reactor OldCoder: yep
12:36 ruskie yup
12:36 reactor OldCoder: I still haven't fixed uploads on my FTP, though.
12:36 OldCoder reactor, I can link the script here. Wait.
12:36 reactor mk
12:37 ruskie having tools to modify the world generally is also a bit more narrower
12:38 OldCoder http://minetest.org/build-mtserver.txt
12:38 OldCoder reactor, there are some details specific to me but this will give you the idea
12:38 OldCoder You will need to install curl and leveldb for your distro
12:39 OldCoder Also change -j 4 to -j 2 if you have a single core machine
12:39 OldCoder And the tarball name may vary
12:39 OldCoder But that is what I am presently using
12:39 OldCoder In world.mt
12:39 OldCoder You would change the backend from sqlite3 to leveldb
12:39 OldCoder For a new world
12:39 OldCoder To convert an existing world, there is another script
12:40 OldCoder But I need to nap before going to work soon; ask me for the convert script another time
12:40 OldCoder
12:40 OldCoder Reactor have you received sufficient assistance for the moment? Is your money ($0.00) well spent :P ?
12:40 OldCoder
12:40 reactor a sec
12:40 OldCoder We trust you are pleased and invite you to visit your new world
12:40 reactor Too many interrupts.
12:40 OldCoder You will be opped the next time I am there
12:40 OldCoder Interrupts?
12:41 reactor Hang on, I'm handling telephone.
12:44 reactor Back.
12:45 reactor OldCoder: thank you, it is :)
12:48 OldCoder All right!
12:48 OldCoder We will talk further
12:48 OldCoder I may need to nap soon
12:48 OldCoder reactor, try to find people who can comment on the missing textures and on the serialize.lua error
12:48 OldCoder No rush
12:48 reactor I have no idea.
12:48 reactor They might... be here?
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12:55 dafull97 Hey Guys!
12:56 reactor eH yuGsy !
12:56 dafull97 what reactor?
12:56 dafull97 lol
12:58 reactor Endinanness.
12:58 dafull97 Lol, so what you guys doing?
12:59 reactor s/at/at are/
12:59 reactor Correcting people's spelling and grammar.
13:00 dafull97 =/, "Hey Guys!" is correct... =P
13:01 kaeza speling* grammer*
13:01 reactor gramer
13:01 dafull97 I'm Confused =/
13:04 thexyz oh wow
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13:05 thexyz sorry can't stop laughing
13:05 thexyz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHTUlF7NA2o
13:05 EvergreenTree !title
13:05 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: Internet Explorer: The Anime -- feat Inori Aizawa - YouTube
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13:09 OldCoder dafull97, Good morning
13:10 OldCoder reactor, so far nobody seems to know what to do about the error
13:10 dafull97 Hey OldCoder, how are you?
13:10 reactor OldCoder: ...yes.
13:10 OldCoder dafull97, A bit tired. It is 5:10am here
13:10 reactor OldCoder: what are we gonna do?
13:10 OldCoder reactor, we shall put up the world and have fun with it
13:10 dafull97 OldCoder, oh it is 8:10 here
13:11 OldCoder All right
13:11 OldCoder reactor, work on your edits; we will speak further
13:13 reactor ?
13:14 reactor mk
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13:14 reactor I'm loading the underground level
13:17 reactor OldCoder: I've joined the server, now I'm falling
13:18 OldCoder falling?
13:18 OldCoder Hang on. I shall come and op you.
13:18 OldCoder We need to set spawn.
13:18 OldCoder Oh
13:18 OldCoder reactor, you will need to wait 10 minutes
13:19 OldCoder I can't run MT while VirtualBox is open
13:19 OldCoder Heh
13:19 OldCoder Hang on... as you fall :P
13:19 reactor mk
13:19 reactor The spawn... Uh, let it be the bus.
13:19 reactor In fact, the coach is the only thing that is not abandoned.
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13:24 OldCoder reactor, coords?
13:24 OldCoder I will shut down the world briefly and make two quick changes
13:24 OldCoder Set coords and view range
13:25 reactor hmm
13:25 reactor a sec
13:26 OldCoder Does anybody have a thought on what active_block_range should be?
13:26 OldCoder I am going to set: viewing_range_nodes_min = 15
13:27 OldCoder I could adjust active_block_range too
13:27 reactor What does it affect?
13:29 OldCoder If I knew, I would have the answer :-)
13:29 OldCoder So where do you wish spawn?
13:29 OldCoder So that people do not fall into space
13:30 reactor -105, 2, -171
13:31 OldCoder Hang on
13:31 OldCoder reactor, any other changes before restart?
13:31 OldCoder BTW Obsidian
13:31 OldCoder is in _game now
13:31 OldCoder firearms are added as you requested
13:31 reactor mk
13:32 OldCoder And I have been advised NOT to use Nether until it is fixed
13:32 reactor Do any mods exist that add grenades?
13:32 reactor I will not use nether.
13:32 reactor I only need nether blocks.
13:32 reactor Because the map ported depends on them.
13:32 OldCoder Ah
13:32 OldCoder Tell me how to do that
13:32 OldCoder I don't know about grenades
13:32 OldCoder PM me later as I must rest
13:32 reactor I used minecraft nether blocks due to shortage of blocks.
13:32 OldCoder Restarting world now
13:32 OldCoder OK
13:33 OldCoder reactor, world is restarted. Check spawn. Tell me later how to add nether blocks. And I will upload the next version of map when ready.
13:33 OldCoder Time to rest. I will check for messages in 10 minutes and then nap.
13:34 OldCoder If you are in the world at that time I will op you.
13:34 reactor Good night, if I don't say anything.
13:34 OldCoder Well, join so I can op
13:34 OldCoder Also check spawn
13:34 reactor I'm there.
13:34 OldCoder om then
13:34 OldCoder That was fast!
13:34 reactor ?
13:35 OldCoder You got in quickly
13:35 OldCoder Sure you do not need to restart?
13:35 OldCoder I restarted the world
13:35 OldCoder I am entering now myself
13:35 reactor ?!
13:36 * OldCoder is confused by all the ?
13:36 OldCoder I'd like to get animals working
13:36 OldCoder If you meet somebody who can comment on the serialize error send them to me
13:36 reactor the game hung
13:37 OldCoder I think
13:37 OldCoder You were in a defunct copy
13:37 OldCoder Did you restart when I did?
13:37 reactor No
13:37 reactor that's why
13:37 OldCoder Yep
13:37 OldCoder I am there
13:37 OldCoder Join, please
13:37 reactor mk
13:37 reactor joining
13:38 reactor hmm
13:38 reactor Stuck on media, despite having unpacked the cache.
13:38 OldCoder You used the ZIP file I provided?
13:39 OldCoder And it is unpacked so that cache folder lines up?
13:39 OldCoder Should take less than 4 minutes to enter
13:39 OldCoder I will take a short break and check back
13:39 OldCoder I like all the flowers
13:39 OldCoder Nice buildings too
13:39 reactor mk
13:40 reactor I'm finally there.
13:40 reactor But in the void.
13:40 OldCoder Because
13:40 OldCoder I changed spawn after you started
13:40 OldCoder Hang on
13:40 reactor yep
13:40 OldCoder What nick are you using?
13:40 reactor mike
13:41 OldCoder Teleport to spawn
13:41 OldCoder You have op
13:41 OldCoder c u later
13:41 OldCoder We will add IRC mod later
13:41 OldCoder Remember my requests... I need people to comment on missing Technic Animals Food textures and on a serialize.lua problem
13:41 OldCoder
13:41 reactor Later. And thank you, again.
13:42 OldCoder Oh, Reactor...
13:42 OldCoder Here is part of the price for your world:
13:42 reactor I don't know how I can resolve that.
13:42 OldCoder use Places to record interesting places
13:42 reactor Oh.
13:42 reactor Hmm.
13:42 reactor I will.
13:42 OldCoder I wish coords, screenshots, and brief remarks
13:42 reactor That one I can do.
13:42 OldCoder About what you and others build here
13:42 OldCoder Do you follow? Let us get a nice little tour of the world
13:42 * OldCoder is on a break
13:42 reactor I do.
13:43 reactor I think first I'll make coords and descripting.
13:43 reactor s/ing/ions/
13:43 reactor I'm not very good at making screenshots.
13:43 OldCoder Others can do that
13:43 OldCoder Just make a text file of coords *and* remarks
13:43 reactor This is strange.
13:44 OldCoder Places mod may help
13:44 OldCoder Bug?
13:44 reactor Vertical slabs don't work.
13:44 OldCoder Well, make a list of problems
13:44 reactor I mean, slabs ar not displayed correctly.
13:44 OldCoder We will review debug.txt etc.
13:44 reactor s/ar/are/
13:44 reactor mk
13:44 OldCoder It is fine... expect glitches and crashes. But this is not bad for one day, is it?
13:44 OldCoder
13:46 reactor Is there a command for creating coords?
13:46 reactor Clicking the GUI would be tedious.
13:46 reactor Also, should I add _all_ the places of interest, or only that are appropriately modeled?
13:49 reactor oh
13:49 reactor I see.
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15:00 sfan5 hi everyone
15:00 sfan5 VanessaE: I have time now..
15:04 VanessaE hi all
15:05 reactor VanessaE: o/
15:05 reactor VanessaE: Pripyat tour?
15:05 harrison ow
15:05 VanessaE sfan5: I just wanted you to make a tweak to the "wrongly-formatted topics" script and re-run it.  If a link has both no download and no license link, or if both are set to n/a (case insensitive), these should not be considered as errors.
15:06 VanessaE your script flagged several of my obsolete mods :)
15:06 VanessaE reactor: sure
15:06 sfan5 it does not try to parse anything
15:06 reactor VanessaE: minetest.org:30017
15:06 sfan5 it just "if 'someword' in post_content: ..."
15:06 VanessaE s/if a link/if a post/
15:06 reactor Not sure if the spawn is right.
15:06 harrison that's what she said
15:07 VanessaE sfan5: ah ok.  well re-run your script :P
15:07 sfan5 ok
15:07 reactor harrison: GLaDOS didn't say that.
15:08 harrison beauty is momentary in the mind / the fitful tracing of a portal
15:09 VanessaE reactor: I'm in.  waiting for daylight.
15:12 reactor I'm not. stuck on resources, again :(
15:14 reactor Hmm. The instance of Minetest I ran to process underground schemes has started eating the memory after I exited the world to save changes.
15:14 reactor I'm  afraid it's gonna receive bus error this way.
15:15 VanessaE mind giving flay/fast/daytime? :)
15:15 reactor When I come, I will.
15:15 VanessaE k
15:15 reactor I'm currently useless: another Minetest is eatnig up the memory.
15:18 VanessaE found an error on your map
15:18 reactor ?
15:18 reactor All slabs are bugged.
15:18 VanessaE at -862,0,-73  there is a plantlike node with the default_grass.png texture.  Probably should be one of the default_grass_x.png textures
15:19 VanessaE so far everything else looks right enough
15:20 reactor How are slabs?
15:20 reactor Last time I joined all slabs were misoriented.
15:20 IceCraft hi
15:20 VanessaE this map has gloopores (or glooptest)?  kalite in one the main road along the eastern edge of the city
15:20 VanessaE nothing wrong with the slabs, they're fine
15:21 reactor Seen that, too.
15:21 VanessaE (location of the kalite:  -893,0,7 )
15:21 reactor If you mean the red ore and the purple one.
15:21 VanessaE yeah
15:23 reactor Finally, I've logged in.
15:25 OldCoder Leaving shortly
15:25 OldCoder reactor, how is it going?
15:25 VanessaE quite a bit of lag here
15:25 OldCoder None here
15:26 OldCoder Let me check CPU
15:26 OldCoder Load is zero
15:26 OldCoder Network issue
15:26 VanessaE yeah, must be network lag
15:26 OldCoder This server can handle 50 times the current load
15:26 VanessaE it's just slow to load the map
15:26 OldCoder Yes
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15:27 OldCoder VanessaE, I need to find out who can comment on a serialize.lua error that says sdata nil. Seems to be connected to mobf.
15:27 OldCoder Plus us* has reported missing PNGs related to Animals, Food, and Technic
15:27 VanessaE hm, this area looks familiar.  Maybe the large-but-derelict apartments I've seen in photos once or twice?
15:27 OldCoder But all of the latter except maybe Food are git current
15:27 VanessaE OldCoder: I've never had MOBF throw that error, are you sure your copy is up-to-date? (and the server itself)
15:27 reactor OldCoder: o/
15:28 VanessaE ok
15:28 reactor OldCoder: I have a preliminary list of places.
15:28 reactor OldCoder: may I paste?
15:29 OldCoder reactor, the bot will kick you
15:29 OldCoder best to paste externally and link
15:29 reactor mk
15:29 OldCoder VanessaE, everything is from the past few days
15:29 OldCoder I pasted the exact error several times the other day; I will get it again now
15:29 reactor ftp://mike402.no-ip.org:65421/pub/Pripyat/remarks
15:30 OldCoder error:...opt/minetest047/share/mi​netest/builtin/serialize.lua:168:
15:30 OldCoder attempt to index local 'sdata' (a nil value)
15:30 OldCoder reactor, t y
15:30 OldCoder VanessaE, ^
15:30 reactor OldCoder: the environmental sounds are "too lively"
15:30 VanessaE reactor:  error resolving that domain.
15:30 reactor Oops.
15:30 OldCoder reactor, we can work on sound
15:30 OldCoder he is biz
15:30 reactor ftp://mike402.no-ip.biz:65421/pub/Pripyat/remarks
15:31 OldCoder reactor, you no longer need that to be private?
15:31 reactor OldCoder: addicental birds would be fine, but mostly the sound of empty space
15:31 OldCoder reactor, can be adjusted
15:31 OldCoder put it on the list
15:31 reactor OldCoder: I've properly virtualised the server.
15:31 OldCoder What does this mean? And thanks for the list
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15:32 reactor OldCoder: ?
15:33 OldCoder What does your point about virtualise mean?
15:33 reactor As in, mostly wind blowing.
15:33 * OldCoder is curious
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15:33 OldCoder NakedFury, Hi
15:33 reactor Curiosity killed the cat.
15:33 OldCoder reactor, if you wish sound changes, put it on the list
15:33 OldCoder and
15:33 OldCoder Satisfaction brought her back :P
15:33 reactor Well, I run several servers on a single machine.
15:33 OldCoder <reactor> Curiosity killed the cat
15:33 OldCoder She got hit with a bat
15:33 reactor And I need to make sure they are kept isolated from each other.
15:33 OldCoder But that was not the end of that
15:33 OldCoder Satisfaction brought her back
15:34 OldCoder reactor, k
15:34 OldCoder technic_akalin_dust.png technic_alatro_dust.png technic_arol_dust.png technic_talinite_dust.png
15:34 OldCoder VanessaE, those Technic dusts are coming up missing
15:35 pitriss OldCoder: i think those dists shouldnt be in default technic..
15:35 pitriss *dusts
15:35 OldCoder So are food_cigar.png food_soup_chicken_raw.png and other foods
15:35 pitriss OldCoder: it should be in if then clause and depend on other mod installed
15:35 OldCoder pitriss, so how should I resolve the errors?
15:35 reactor The most bothering problem so far is slabs not being placed properly.
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15:36 OldCoder reactor, have fun perhaps it can be fixed
15:36 reactor mk
15:36 pitriss OldCoder: hmm hmm try to find those definition and recipes and just delete it
15:36 OldCoder Not much time but we will see
15:36 VanessaE the slabs look fine, reactor
15:36 reactor Eh?!
15:36 OldCoder g2g folks c u sometime later busy day ahead
15:36 OldCoder o/
15:36 VanessaE if you're using an old version of Minetest, you'll see that
15:36 reactor o/
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15:36 pitriss OldCoder: if you don'ŧ have alantro etc in your game, of course..
15:37 reactor Their placement changed again?
15:37 reactor Does that mean the map generated in old MT will be useless?
15:37 OldCoder Make notes on problems. pitriss But I just installed default Technic. I will grep later thank you.
15:37 OldCoder No
15:37 OldCoder Can be adjusted
15:37 OldCoder Or can regenerate with new MT
15:37 VanessaE when 6dfacedir was added, it made old clients act weird.
15:37 reactor oh
15:37 VanessaE but I see nothing whatsoever wrong over here
15:38 OldCoder If anybody can find out about the serialize.lua error later let me know I would like to have cows
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15:39 reactor By the way, cooked rats would be fine for health replenishment.
15:39 reactor I replaced their texture with Soviet medkits.
15:39 OldCoder Yum
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16:02 VanessaE the map's too slow-loading :(
16:02 VanessaE hey EvergreenTree
16:02 reactor Yep.
16:03 reactor EvergreenTree: o/
16:03 EvergreenTree Heyo
16:03 EvergreenTree reactor, I guess that's your official greeting for me now?    :P
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16:03 reactor EvergreenTree: What do you mean?
16:03 EvergreenTree Saying o/ every time I join
16:03 EvergreenTree Hi Jordach
16:04 VanessaE o/ is waving
16:04 reactor Okay. Next time I will use " o/' ". And that " ' " is a lumberjack's axe.
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16:05 Jordach EvergreenTree, i send you a email and you don't reply :(
16:06 EvergreenTree Whoops, sorry Jordach
16:06 EvergreenTree I check emails rather infrequently
16:06 reactor Since when replying to every mail is mandatory?
16:08 EvergreenTree Because I don't get many of them
16:08 EvergreenTree (I should be thankful though, no spam to be seen)
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16:11 EvergreenTree RealBadAngel, o/
16:11 RealBadAngel hi
16:11 VanessaE hey RBA
16:12 reactor RealBadAngel: oh hi.
16:12 reactor Bump mapping is unnecessary in MT.
16:12 RealBadAngel for you, so dont use it
16:12 RealBadAngel simple as that
16:13 RealBadAngel many folks out there want the game to shine
16:13 RealBadAngel btw, all the minecraft like games have excellent shaders
16:14 reactor But shaders can be used for something else.
16:14 RealBadAngel and are way ahead with them, we have just started
16:14 reactor Like water reflections.
16:14 RealBadAngel ofc
16:14 RealBadAngel it will be done
16:14 reactor And reflections would be good.
16:15 VanessaE but first you need to resolve the version-compatibility issues before we talk about adding more shaders.
16:15 VanessaE :)
16:15 RealBadAngel yeah
16:15 RealBadAngel today i have definitely fixed issues with geometry problems that affected bumpmapping and oclussion mapping
16:16 VanessaE you mean the issue that made the textures sorta 'slide past' one another at the corners?
16:16 RealBadAngel parallax mapping now works perfectly
16:17 VanessaE did you test it with your current copy of HDX? :)
16:17 RealBadAngel hold on for screenshots
16:17 VanessaE (don't pull, you'll lose the normals)
16:18 RealBadAngel shaders off: http://realbadangel.pl/images/wall1.png
16:18 RealBadAngel bumpmapping only: http://realbadangel.pl/images/wall2.png
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16:18 RealBadAngel bumpmapping + parallax mode 1: http://realbadangel.pl/images/wall3.png
16:21 reactor HD textures do look out of place on blocky landscape.
16:23 VanessaE RealBadAngel: with those bricks, they actually look better with shaders off
16:23 VanessaE your bumpmaps are too round and smooth for those bricks
16:23 VanessaE the parallax depth looks right, though
16:23 VanessaE but the bumpmap surfaces are too smooth and rounded.  there's no detail
16:25 reactor The bricks looks slimy.
16:26 VanessaE yes
16:26 VanessaE or like they're made of glass
16:26 VanessaE RealBadAngel: but forget about the parallax stuff for now.  fix your damn water shader
16:27 * Jordach agrees
16:27 Jordach that one sfan5 complained about had me too
16:28 RealBadAngel i had to start with solving tangents
16:29 VanessaE jordach, what?
16:29 RealBadAngel and that affects almost everything in shaders
16:29 Jordach VanessaE, one of the shaders didn't compile for sfan5 either
16:29 VanessaE oh ok
16:29 VanessaE well for me the shader compiles but does not work properly.  seen the screenshots of my attempt?
16:30 RealBadAngel Jordach,  i have changed some things to work with older version of OpenGl
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16:30 Jordach BETTER.
16:30 Jordach MUCH BETTER.
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16:30 Jordach it'd be better without Calinou :P
16:30 RealBadAngel hi Calinou
16:31 reactor Calinou: ohaider.
16:31 Calinou hi
16:31 RealBadAngel have you tried latest patch i posted? i wonder if errors you have reported are still there
16:32 RealBadAngel Vanessa, those bricks are just an example to highlight the effects
16:32 VanessaE Jordach, RealBadAngel:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/​hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%​20-%2011062013%20-%2011:31:49%20AM.png
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16:33 RealBadAngel i played even with 2048px textures to test it
16:33 VanessaE that's with Haven and the shaders fork pulled and compiled yesterday
16:33 RealBadAngel Vanessa, i know, we will fix it sooner or later
16:34 VanessaE and this config file was used just now to take that screenshot:  http://pastebin.com/p4TMshng
16:35 RealBadAngel this can be caused by 3 thigs: different version of irrlicht (unlikely), OpenGL version or your video drivers
16:36 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi. Not here yet. But I'd like to install the large trees you made. And there are several missing technic dust errors.
16:36 VanessaE RealBadAngel: my video driver is fully up-to-date.  I'm at the very latest amd has to offer.
16:37 RealBadAngel have you tried running mt with wine?
16:37 VanessaE yes
16:37 RealBadAngel and?
16:37 VanessaE exact same effect.
16:38 RealBadAngel funny ;) here it works either on windows and linux
16:38 Jordach VanessaE, serves your right for buying the shittier processor and gpu
16:38 RealBadAngel and rather low end GPU
16:38 Jordach RealBadAngel, i get the water shaders under OGL 2.1.2
16:39 VanessaE slightly older build, under WINE:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/​hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%​20-%2011062013%20-%2011:39:16%20AM.png
16:40 VanessaE same config file.
16:40 Jordach VanessaE, oh look, it works :P
16:40 RealBadAngel i will add new tangents to water shaders too
16:40 VanessaE Jordach: no, it doesn;t.
16:41 RealBadAngel first i need to push new parallax mapping
16:41 Jordach and how about learning how to branch while you're at it too RealBadAngel
16:41 VanessaE those two gradients move around on the water widely and randomly, and there's no actual water rippling effect as what RBA is trying ot make
16:43 VanessaE in the linux screenshot, that blue circular region, and the pinkish circular blur in the distance move about randomly, though less so; the blue always stays close to the bottom of my screen, the other one usually stays just out of frame off to the top and side.
16:44 RealBadAngel its weird that youre the only one not able to see correct water
16:45 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/images/wall4.png
16:45 RealBadAngel btw, here you go with another bricks
16:45 VanessaE I'm not the only one.  tkerwel, cHyper, hoodedice can't either it seems
16:46 VanessaE well hoodedice has intel gfx so he doesn't count
16:46 VanessaE and as you know sfan5 couldn't either because the shader wouldn't compile
16:47 RealBadAngel it would be useful if i know opengl version of all that have problems
16:47 reactor That's better.
16:47 reactor Not as scary.
16:47 reactor But still scary.
16:47 VanessaE RealBadAngel: OpenGL core profile version string: 4.3.12614 Core Profile Context 13.25.18
16:47 VanessaE OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.30
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16:48 VanessaE RealBadAngel: are you using anything not listed in here?  http://pastebin.com/H9ah1qfD
16:51 RealBadAngel idk whats that list means at all
16:53 OldCoder Does anybody know who work on serialize.lua ?
16:53 VanessaE I presume it's every shader feature my card supports.
16:53 OldCoder * works
16:53 VanessaE OldCoder: don't work on it.  leave it as found in upstream and just back the mod down until it works :P
16:54 VanessaE it's most likely just a bug in MOBF.
16:54 OldCoder VanessaE, I do not plan to work on that mod; I wish to know who does. ANd I have no idea what to do with mobf. I suppose cows and chickens cannot be had.
16:54 OldCoder But it is good the world works as well as it does.
16:55 VanessaE well serialize.lua is part of builtin, so it's minetest core territory
16:55 OldCoder By "that mod" I mean serialize.lua as opposed to Animals; I assume that Animals still belongs to Sapier.
16:55 OldCoder Hmm.
16:55 VanessaE so you have to approach it from the standpoint of MOBF being the problem
16:55 OldCoder Has anybody seen Sapier recently?
16:55 VanessaE he comes on here most days
16:55 OldCoder All right, thanks
16:56 OldCoder I have not seen him this past week though I have been more active
16:56 VanessaE I might expect him just about any time time in fact
16:56 OldCoder We will see; good luck with the shader issue
16:56 VanessaE (he's in germany, so for him it's just about quttin' time I guess)
16:56 OldCoder k
16:56 VanessaE quittin'
16:56 reactor Wb OldCoder.
16:56 reactor I'm almost done processing the underground.
16:56 OldCoder ty
16:57 OldCoder k
16:57 OldCoder I am here for about an hour then hours of meetings
16:57 reactor I wish commands could be used remotely.
16:57 reactor I mean, without client.
16:57 VanessaE reactor: IRC mod.
16:57 reactor It supportes that?
16:58 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3905
16:58 VanessaE yes, particularly with the irc_commands add-on
16:58 VanessaE I use it frequently.
16:58 reactor Hmm.
16:58 reactor Worledit still has no setting pos1 and pos2 by coordinates, afaik.
16:59 VanessaE it requires you to compile a library for your machine though, but that's not hard.
16:59 reactor I think I can do that.
16:59 VanessaE sure it has.
16:59 reactor Huh?
16:59 VanessaE /p set    if you wanna puch to set then.  else, //pos1 <coords>   //pos2 <coords>
16:59 VanessaE //p set
17:00 reactor //pos1 only accepts current coordinates
17:00 VanessaE oh right
17:00 * VanessaE is stupid
17:00 VanessaE I'm mixing it up with the areas mod :P
17:00 RealBadAngel if some1 wanna try, its win build with latest changes to shaders and Haven TP
17:00 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/uploa​d/minetest-shaders-win32.zip
17:00 OldCoder -       settings->setDefault("enable_texture_atlas", "true");
17:00 OldCoder +       settings->setDefault("enable_texture_atlas", "false");
17:01 OldCoder VanessaE, is that still good?
17:01 reactor By far not everyone runs that bad OS.
17:01 reactor s/bad/toy/
17:01 VanessaE OldCoder: there is no texture atlas anymore.
17:01 RealBadAngel there are not texture atlas
17:01 OldCoder Very well t y
17:01 VanessaE why are you patching the engine?
17:01 RealBadAngel it has been removed
17:02 VanessaE RealBadAngel: BAH!  no containing folder
17:02 RealBadAngel ?
17:02 VanessaE just try unzipping it.
17:03 VanessaE it spills its folders all over the work dir.
17:03 RealBadAngel shit :)
17:03 RealBadAngel i will repack it
17:03 reactor tar bomb
17:04 * Jordach claps
17:06 VanessaE RealBadAngel: my guess as to why your shaders fail for me is that your hacky way of getting those attributes and uniform sample buffers to your shaders is not possible with my particular setup.
17:06 Jordach solids shader still shitty
17:06 OldCoder VanessaE, I have two patches that may still apply. One trivial patch that Sapier gave me for Animals. And a definite bug related to audio.
17:06 OldCoder Checking them now
17:06 VanessaE OldCoder: don't apply any patches.
17:06 OldCoder VanessaE, I must
17:06 VanessaE run clean upstream.
17:06 OldCoder Cannot
17:06 VanessaE it's very different from what you had before.
17:06 OldCoder Without the audio patch...
17:06 OldCoder I cannot take screenshots
17:06 VanessaE try it anyway
17:06 OldCoder I will post the patches and you may judge
17:06 * Jordach smells ssh
17:06 OldCoder No; already did
17:07 OldCoder I will post the patches and you may judge
17:07 OldCoder But let me resync them first
17:07 OldCoder If you agree with them, push or pull them later
17:07 OldCoder Whatever
17:07 VanessaE why would an audio patch affect your ability to take screenshots?
17:07 VanessaE that makes no sense
17:08 VanessaE (Oh G*d I'm starting to sound like c55)
17:08 Jordach how about we re-write minetest to use another graphics lib by 0.6
17:08 VanessaE yeah right
17:08 Jordach then shaders would actually work :P
17:09 VanessaE better to make it go direct to OpenGL and ditch support for DX and irrlicht anyway
17:09 RealBadAngel Jordach, whats shitty in solids shaders?
17:09 Jordach doesnt compile
17:09 reactor Minetest no longer needs irrlicht?
17:10 OldCoder VanessaE, You will see momentarily. Both patches are still valid.
17:10 RealBadAngel Jordach, what errors?
17:10 Jordach RealBadAngel, it fails to compile
17:10 RealBadAngel if so it report errors
17:10 RealBadAngel please copy them
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17:10 VanessaE Jordach: serves you for using a shitty CPU/drivers/GPU :P
17:11 VanessaE +right
17:11 OldCoder http://minetest.org/mtpatch-131106a.txt
17:11 OldCoder VanessaE, ^ two patches
17:11 VanessaE OldCoder: I know this sounds lame, but did you actually try current git HEAD, master branch?  without those patches?
17:11 OldCoder VanessaE, ^ two patches
17:12 OldCoder Of course I did
17:12 OldCoder And I don't know if the first one is still needed
17:12 OldCoder I need to ask Sapier about that one
17:12 VanessaE ok just making sure.
17:12 OldCoder This assumes that current git HEAD is:
17:12 OldCoder git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git
17:12 VanessaE current HEAD is 8903c68460d79aeac6b1c5074003743f98371339
17:12 OldCoder Is this correct:
17:12 OldCoder git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git
17:12 OldCoder ?
17:12 VanessaE should be yes
17:13 OldCoder Very well
17:13 * Jordach pokes EvergreenTree
17:13 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/XwIx5FG.png
17:13 VanessaE but which commit are you at?
17:13 OldCoder Two patches; I would like the 2nd one added
17:13 OldCoder Does it matter? The patches have been correct for a year
17:13 OldCoder Except Sapier needs to comment on the 1st one
17:13 VanessaE OldCoder: it matters.
17:13 OldCoder Go on
17:13 OldCoder I have simply done a git cline
17:13 OldCoder I have simply done a git clone * a few days ago
17:13 VanessaE OldCoder: a few days ago?  you're not current then.
17:14 OldCoder Fine; I can build every day then
17:14 OldCoder It does not matter unless somebody has added the 2nd patch
17:14 * OldCoder shrugs
17:14 VanessaE the last commit was yesterday morning
17:14 OldCoder Yes?
17:14 VanessaE just making sure it all
17:14 VanessaE is*
17:14 OldCoder Shall I rebuild now?
17:14 VanessaE yes
17:14 VanessaE just to see where your client stands relative to what you remember
17:14 * OldCoder proceeds
17:15 OldCoder VanessaE, Unless somebody modified the OpenAL code in the last 3 days... it stands exactly where it was
17:15 OldCoder But I am proceeding
17:16 OldCoder VanessaE, FWIW The 2nd patch simply disables warning messages that flood my screen
17:16 VanessaE OH
17:16 VanessaE you can get rid of those by pressing F2
17:16 OldCoder The messages in question are connected to OpenAL
17:16 VanessaE just turn off the chat when taking screens
17:16 OldCoder The messages are there all the time and mess up the game
17:16 VanessaE (not that it helps you actually chat)
17:17 OldCoder Need to be gone by default
17:17 OldCoder Regarding the 1st patch, as I said, Sapier will need to comment on that one
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17:19 OldCoder Patches apply cleanly
17:19 OldCoder dafull97, wb
17:19 dafull97 Thanks OldCoder, how are you so far today?
17:20 dafull97 Megaf you here/
17:20 OldCoder dafull97, Day is still young. Physically rested quite a bit. Yesterday was difficult but progress on MT was fun. Reactor Pripyat world is up.
17:20 dafull97 ?
17:20 dafull97 nice, havn't see that... and here it is 12:40
17:21 OldCoder Stopping my worlds and rebuilding now Vanessa... let us see what the Octocore can do
17:21 dafull97 12:20 sorry =/ and what is Reactor Pripyat?
17:21 VanessaE OldCoder: you need to disable all of your performance tuning on the server configs and start over, btw.  Pripyat world loads *really* slowly.
17:21 OldCoder COmpile started
17:21 OldCoder VanessaE, OK
17:22 VanessaE most of the old performance tuning stuff just doesn't apply anymore
17:22 OldCoder Let me finish compile and show you the conf
17:22 OldCoder You may state changes
17:22 VanessaE ok
17:22 OldCoder Hmm. Nice and fast.
17:23 OldCoder Done
17:23 VanessaE OldCoder: here's what my survival server uses.  The other four are similar:  http://pastebin.com/fKPw2EFC
17:23 OldCoder VanessaE, was that fast enough to rebuild from scratch?
17:23 VanessaE yes, quite so
17:23 OldCoder Reviewing the paste
17:23 OldCoder VanessaE, I will show you my conf in a moment
17:24 reactor dafull97: ?
17:25 OldCoder http://minetest.org/pripyat-conf.txt
17:25 OldCoder VanessaE, suggest changes ^
17:25 dafull97 what is Reactor Pripyat, meaning is server or a map?
17:25 dafull97 reactor^
17:25 * Jordach 's hair got caught in the headphones hinge again
17:26 reactor dafull97: it's my Pripyat map.
17:26 reactor dafull97: not mine, but I'm porting it.
17:26 reactor dafull97: making corrections along the way
17:26 dafull97 nice, i will stop by later =)
17:26 reactor mk
17:26 dafull97 im in school so i can't =(
17:26 OldCoder Jordach, That sounds interesting
17:27 Jordach OldCoder, it hurts, my beard is getting long
17:27 OldCoder I will need to shift focus to work shortly
17:27 OldCoder Beard?
17:27 Jordach (they've been doing so for years!)
17:27 OldCoder Keep it trimmed
17:27 Jordach it's a nice ginger-y brown
17:27 VanessaE get rid of the congestion_control*, max_block_send_distance, and dedicated_server_step settings entirely.  definitely enable rollback_recording.  change max_simultaneous_block_sends* to what you see in my conf.  Don't use remote_media, it's broken.
17:27 OldCoder Beards have pros and cons
17:27 OldCoder VanessaE, remote_media works for me I have kahrl code
17:27 VanessaE I changed my map save interval to 600 (every 10 minutes) but you may wanna tune that to your needs.
17:27 VanessaE OldCoder: ok, in that case keep it.
17:28 OldCoder Oh... remind me...
17:28 OldCoder Is that a client side patch or a server one?
17:28 reactor VanessaE: is it about speeding up the map loading?
17:28 VanessaE kahrl's code is both I think.
17:28 VanessaE reactor: the max_sim* settings will help some, yes.
17:28 OldCoder Hmm... I had best put back the 131102 files until we talk to him
17:28 OldCoder I don't recall using a server side patch
17:28 VanessaE the other settings just don't matter anymore
17:29 OldCoder VanessaE, rollback slows things down doesn't it?
17:29 VanessaE OldCoder: kahrl's code is server-side for sure, because clients already have basic cURL support.
17:29 reactor OldCoder: I've just finished processing underground.
17:29 VanessaE it can, but it doesn't usually.
17:29 VanessaE especially if you have a fast disk
17:29 reactor There are still some holes in it, but it's better.
17:29 OldCoder I think we need to talk to him... Not sure patch is applied correctly here
17:29 OldCoder Removed congestion control
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17:30 OldCoder Removed max_block_send_distance
17:30 VanessaE OldCoder:
17:30 VanessaE [11-06 12:26] <celeron55> uhm... i guess the feeding of error messages to the chat could be removed
17:30 VanessaE [11-06 12:29] <celeron55> it's just a few lines that deal with chat_log_error_buf in game.cpp
17:30 OldCoder k
17:30 VanessaE so maybe there will be an upstream commit to that soon
17:30 dafull97 How would i go about making maps for minetest?
17:30 OldCoder Removed dedicated_server_step
17:30 OldCoder dafull97, Just build
17:30 OldCoder In offline mode
17:30 VanessaE [11-06 12:30] <celeron55> just adding a third boolean parameter to ChatBackend::addMessage to determine whether they go to the non-console buffer would work fine
17:31 dafull97 so cannot use somthing like scratch 3d?
17:32 rubenwardy Hi all!
17:32 OldCoder VanessaE, I made the conf changes except for rollback. I think I need to go back to the other day's server sources until we discuss kahrl code with him. Any chance of getting his stuff sent upstream?
17:32 OldCoder rubenwardy, Hi
17:32 OldCoder dafull97, No
17:32 OldCoder dafull97, actually sort of
17:32 OldCoder dafull97, There may be offline map editors or they could be written
17:32 VanessaE OldCoder: soon actually yes.  one sec please.
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17:37 RealBadAngel VanessaE, http://realbadangel.pl/images/hdx_bricks.png
17:38 VanessaE not too bad but a but too smooth
17:38 VanessaE bit*
17:38 RealBadAngel i made this normalmap tricky
17:39 RealBadAngel i desaturated your bricks, inverted them and made normalmap out of such image
17:41 OldCoder VanessaE, I will check back in a little while. RealBadAngel I wish the large trees. And I am getting reports of missing Technic Dusts of different types.
17:41 * OldCoder will bbiab
17:41 RealBadAngel OldCoder, regarding moretrees ask VanessaE
17:41 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I have that I think; are those the large trees you showed off months ago?
17:41 OldCoder The really big ones?
17:42 OldCoder bbiab
17:42 RealBadAngel yes
17:45 OldCoder k t y
17:46 VanessaE OldCoder:  irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-11-04
17:46 OldCoder R
17:46 VanessaE OldCoder: moretrees, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4394
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17:47 VanessaE needs plantlife, which you already have (btw, please pull, there are updates)
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17:47 MNR Hi
17:47 VanessaE hi
17:48 RealBadAngel VanessaE, so another try: http://realbadangel.pl/images/hdx_bricks2.png
17:48 OldCoder VanessaE, IIRC I have moretrees. What was the conclusion about httpfetch? I don't see a conclusion.
17:48 OldCoder Pulling plantlife now
17:48 VanessaE OldCoder: just that what you read there is what needs done.  it has not yet been done afaik
17:48 * VanessaE pokes kahrl
17:49 VanessaE RealBadAngel: the parallax is not bad, but still not enough detail on the bricks and mortar
17:49 MNR I am to minetest so how do you fly??
17:49 MNR new
17:49 Menche MNR, press 'k'
17:50 RealBadAngel type /grant singleplayer all
17:50 MNR thanks
17:50 reactor You are new to English, too, aren't you?
17:50 RealBadAngel then press K for fly
17:50 VanessaE RealBadAngel: you need to shrink the size of the bricks parts of the normalmaps so that the mortar doesn't get stretched.
17:50 VanessaE the side edges of the brick should look like brick :P
17:51 Jordach !next
17:51 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
17:51 OldCoder VanessaE, updated most of your mods including moretrees
17:52 VanessaE OldCoder: sweet :)
17:52 OldCoder Takes only seconds. I will need to go soon. Will probably run server from a few days ago until we talk to Kahrl. I'm trying to remember what we did. He seemed satisfied at the time.
17:52 * OldCoder is hesitant to break things
17:55 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/images/hdx_bricks3.png
17:56 VanessaE RealBadAngel: getting better.
17:56 VanessaE push the code.
17:56 VanessaE and fix the damn water shader :)
17:56 VanessaE (you know I won't let up on that :) )
17:56 OldCoder RealBadAngel, technic grinder recipes references akalin_dust but there is no such image. There are multiple instances of this issue. Should the images be pulled from some old version of Technic?
17:56 Jordach more code less textyres
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17:57 markveidemanis Hi
17:57 OldCoder markveidemanis, Hi
17:57 RealBadAngel Oldcoder, that are just recipes, nekogloop shall take care of the items, those are from gloopores
17:57 RealBadAngel he asked for those recipes
17:58 OldCoder That is fine; but I am getting errors
17:58 OldCoder How shall I fix the errors? Delete those lines from Technic?
17:58 RealBadAngel what errors are you getting?
17:58 RealBadAngel if there are no items, recipes wont do anything
17:59 OldCoder I said before
17:59 OldCoder Several Technic Dust images
17:59 OldCoder do not exist
17:59 OldCoder If they are to be provided by gloopores
17:59 OldCoder But are not
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17:59 OldCoder I suppose I should remove the lines that cause the errors
18:00 OldCoder PilzAdam, was it you or sfan5 who gave me a simple anti-lava mod a year ago?
18:00 OldCoder Very simple but things were a bit messed up and I don't have it now
18:00 Exio4 what would you do with an old pc w/ 16mb ram + 512mb hdd?
18:00 OldCoder Hmm
18:00 OldCoder Run a startup
18:01 Jordach Exio4, linux + bare minetest server
18:01 Exio4 with 16mb of ram?
18:01 OldCoder Sure
18:01 Exio4 and.. a 96' cpu?
18:02 OldCoder Good enough for static web server
18:02 VanessaE 16MB?  jeez, my commodore 64 has more than that
18:02 OldCoder 16MB is 16 times
18:02 OldCoder What Bill Gates said was more RAM than we would ever need :P
18:03 kaeza oh teh irony
18:03 Exio4 640kb is enough for anyone
18:03 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
18:03 Exio4 the hdd has atm a working windows 95
18:03 PilzAdam OldCoder, ummm.... a year ago?, dunno
18:03 Jordach s/everyone!/world!
18:03 OldCoder PilzAdam, Very simple mod that did something about lava traveling vertically down
18:04 OldCoder Eliminated a too-easy way to explode worlds
18:04 OldCoder Angle 90 degrees and lava was locked out; something like that
18:04 OldCoder c u later o/
18:04 * OldCoder is AFK working
18:04 VanessaE bill gates never actually said that 640k line
18:04 OldCoder No? Pripyat World and Zegaton are restarted with server from weekend. I will upgrade server to git current after talking to kahrl
18:05 OldCoder For cache to speed up loads of worlds, see the link I posted earlier
18:05 kaeza Exio4, make some cool game in JS. does not matter how complex; processing power in needed client-side anyway :P
18:06 kaeza is*
18:06 Exio4 haha
18:08 * Jordach evilly laughs
18:08 VanessaE that reminds me...
18:09 * VanessaE updates her servers' cache archive.
18:09 Jordach VLC can steal audio sources and record from them, suck it DRM
18:10 VanessaE Jordach: always remember this mantra:  "If I can see or hear it, I can copy it."
18:10 Jordach heh
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18:13 sfan5 Exio4: I have two 128MB RAM thingys lying around..
18:14 * Jordach has a pile of ram sticks several inches high
18:14 * dafull97 has nothing
18:14 Exio4 i have some [cs jere
18:14 Exio4 pcs
18:15 * dafull97 and laughs Evil
18:15 dafull97 idk, im bored
18:15 Exio4 an amd duron, 900mhz, with 80gb hdd (ide ofc), and 256+128mb of ram
18:15 reactor AMD Moron
18:15 Exio4 a sempron with ddr2 ram and overclocked w/ fsb to 3500mhz
18:15 Exio4 and an 486SX now
18:15 * sfan5 has an 64GB HDD (IDE 3,5') and 250GB HDD (SATA 2,5') lying around
18:16 kaeza 486 O_O
18:16 Exio4 what kaeza
18:16 Exio4 :D
18:16 * dafull97 is switching to 4th block
18:16 * dafull97 then he will go home =)
18:16 sfan5 and 2 cooling fans and an AMD turion 64 x2
18:17 reactor Night.
18:17 Jordach sfan5, post me that 250gb pl0x
18:17 Jordach im running out of room :D
18:18 Exio4 i have a 160gb hdd sata atm
18:18 Jordach 160gb isnt enough for me :P
18:18 Exio4 but there is a small problem, it is broken
18:18 Exio4 :D
18:18 Jordach i'd completely move my media partition to the 250gb
18:19 sfan5 oh, I also have an 17'' TFT WXGA+ TFT with LVDS interface lying around
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18:19 sfan5 and a laptop keyboard with some unknown interface
18:20 Jordach unknown interface
18:20 Jordach pics pl0x
18:21 sfan5 coming
18:23 sfan5 godangit
18:23 sfan5 +d
18:24 sfan5 i just wanted to post that img and first the irc client crashes and then my whole ipod crashes
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18:26 sfan5[iPod] Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/AMdraWAh.jpg
18:26 sfan5[iPod] meow
18:29 sfan5 I also have a 3,5' FDD and a network card with an RTL8029AS
18:29 sfan5 and a DVD burner/reader with another unknown interface
18:31 sfan5 and a TV card with another unknown interface and finally a small TFT from a digital camera
18:31 sfan5 thats all :P
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18:32 OldCoder I'm here for 10 minutes and I'll note suggestions related to Pripyat. But I think we're paused for now. To summarize for anybody interested: (1) Holding software updates pending kahrl httpfetch questions (2) Will update the map for reactor (3) Hoping to speak with Sapier regarding mobf serialize error (4) Need to edit Technic, Food, Animals to fix missing images (5) Made config changes suggested by VE
18:33 OldCoder Thank you to people for assistance over the past few days
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18:35 rubenwardy Awards Mod 0.3 -!- https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/commi​t/773f7993203ee0d953bf019fd5e0f818e7008241
18:35 rubenwardy Fixed a ton of bugs
18:35 sfan5 !title
18:35 sfan5 MinetestBot!
18:35 MinetestBot sfan5!
18:35 sfan5 :-/
18:35 sfan5 !title
18:36 PilzAdam sfan5, IIRC !me didnt work yesterday
18:36 sfan5 hmmm
18:36 MinetestBot sfan5: Restructure for bulletproof-ness · 773f799 · rubenwardy/awards · GitHub
18:36 sfan5 MinetestBot: too late
18:36 MinetestBot sfan5: Restructure for bulletproof-ness · 773f799 · rubenwardy/awards · GitHub
18:39 rubenwardy Basically the ton of errors that occured before are fixed
18:39 rubenwardy (and probably new ones added)
18:40 dante123 hi all i set max_users = 25 in minetest.conf but evertime I reboot server it allows something like 15 people in....then get too many users error.  How do I make the max_users option stick or stay permanent
18:40 dante123 when i check minetest.conf, the max_users line is missing even though i saved it with it in there
18:41 PilzAdam have you edited minetest.conf while a Minetest server is running?
18:42 dante123 probably
18:42 PilzAdam you shouldnt do that
18:42 dante123 ok will shut it down then try again
18:43 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=117269#p117269
18:43 rubenwardy !title
18:43 MinetestBot rubenwardy: [Mod] Achievements [0.3 -!- bug fix to be usable] [awards] (Page 3) — Mod Releases — Minetest Fo[...]
18:43 rubenwardy :P
18:44 dante123 thanks PilzAdam that seemed to do the trick
18:53 Rhy5 joined #minetest
18:54 Rhy5 Now with me banned and rollbacked from RealTest, the server will be a better place.
18:54 dafull97 NAND FLASH memory?
18:54 dafull97 what is ^^
18:56 Jordach Rhy5, hm
18:56 Rhy5 Don't worry Jordach.
18:57 markveidemanis https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7635 I think someone attempted this with mods a while ago...
18:58 Rhy5 Mark? It's been a long time
18:59 Jordach bb shadow
19:00 sfan5 Jordach: seen the image?
19:01 ShadowNinja :-| This is unusual, the server had very good uptime before I moved ShadowBot to it.
19:01 Jordach sfan5, http://www.darfon.com.tw/English/
19:01 Jordach i get lead there
19:01 sfan5 there is no info there
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19:02 Jordach sfan5, http://www.darfon.com.tw/En​glish/HID_NBkb.asp?item=AF
19:02 Jordach does that look familiar
19:02 sfan5 ye
19:02 sfan5 s
19:02 sfan5 but there is no info about the connector
19:02 Jordach hm
19:03 Rhy5 I'll come back on IRC later.
19:04 Rhy5 Wait, I'll stay
19:05 dafull97 who would like to look at my animations so far?
19:05 dafull97 i did them in school
19:06 dafull97 PM please if you want to, thanks...
19:06 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/emqTmAg.png
19:06 Jordach fuck the animations
19:07 dafull97 -_- lol, ok
19:07 dafull97 =)
19:07 Rhy5 Lovely image. :)
19:07 dafull97 well not trouble post links>
19:07 dafull97 who would like to look
19:07 Jordach prototype http://i.imgur.com/faOuDSU.png
19:08 dafull97 http://cpu.gozure.com/Animations.html
19:08 sfan5 >Flash
19:08 Jordach > flash
19:08 sfan5 *D:*
19:08 dafull97 second one to you Jordach, and yes indeed
19:09 * Jordach dies
19:09 * MinetestBot dies
19:09 * dafull97 kills
19:09 dafull97 lol
19:10 dafull97 what is sooo wrong with flash?
19:10 Jordach because everyone uses HTML5 now
19:10 Menche buggy, slow, obsolete...
19:10 sfan5 it eats resources (cpu, gpu)
19:10 Jordach works on my SGS4, iPhone 5C
19:10 dafull97 yes true to both =/
19:10 dafull97 well, haha
19:10 sfan5 Jordach: you have an iPhone 5C?
19:11 dafull97 i attempt
19:11 Jordach sfan5, im a cheap bastard :D
19:11 Jordach also: NSA
19:11 Jordach i aint givin no thumb prints
19:11 * Jordach will probably use a nipple for it
19:11 sfan5 >iPhone 5C >cheap
19:11 sfan5 haha
19:11 sfan5 yeah sure
19:11 sfan5 cheap..
19:11 Jordach (other body parts work with the fingerprint thingy)
19:11 sfan5 the cheapest apple product is the iTouch5G 16 GB
19:11 Menche >i[anything] >cheap
19:12 Jordach Menche, +1 for regex
19:12 sfan5 after that comes the iPad mini 16 GB WiFi
19:12 Jordach > iPad >cheap
19:12 Jordach i'd rather buy a fucking surface 2
19:13 sfan5 ^i[a-zA-z]+ ([a-z]+ )?[0-9]GS?$
19:14 sfan5 I mean ^i[a-zA-z]+ ([a-z]+ )?[0-9](G|C|S)?$
19:14 kaeza A-z ?
19:14 Jordach sfan5, on a contact, the 5C is free as in free beer
19:16 dafull97 i have a good idea.. =)
19:16 sfan5 Jordach: s/contact/contract/ ?
19:16 Jordach that
19:16 Jordach you know my spelling is shit this time of night
19:16 sfan5 >night >20:16 GMT+2
19:17 Jordach GMT+1 actually
19:17 sfan5 oh right..
19:17 Jordach i'm in the GMT+0 range
19:17 Jordach because London
19:17 sfan5 lol, they now sell a Raspberry Pi XMAS bundle at Reichelt
19:17 Jordach *Third
19:18 dafull97 anyone selling a Raspberry pi or a similar board?
19:18 Jordach its fuck all cash dude
19:19 Jordach i'd buy 64 of em and make a render farm
19:19 sfan5 lolno
19:19 sfan5 a http://www.parallella.org/ would be way better for that
19:19 Jordach gram*
19:19 sfan5 wow, a 320 GB HDD is 36 €
19:19 sfan5 s/a/an/
19:20 Jordach i can get 1tb for ~£70
19:20 sfan5 83€...
19:21 dafull97 nah, not the best Jordach
19:21 sfan5 this one ( http://www.reichelt.de/?ARTICLE=121850;PROVID=1024 ) is 55€
19:21 Jordach sfan5, *third
19:21 dafull97 https://www.olimex.com/Products/O​LinuXino/A20/A20-OLinuXino-MICRO
19:21 dafull97 the best so far ^^
19:22 dafull97 for a reasonable price
19:22 sfan5 dafull97: why would you not want to buy a raspberry pi from a distributor?
19:22 * Jordach found a top hat in a clothing store on GTA5
19:22 dafull97 sfan5, i do.... but second hand is cheaper =D
19:22 sfan5 I won't sell mine for sure :D
19:23 sfan5 wow
19:23 sfan5 a 2TB 2,5' HDD costs almost as much as a 4TB 3,5' HDD
19:23 dafull97 wow? what?
19:24 dafull97 ohh, haha
19:24 sfan5 hmm
19:24 sfan5 I have around $150 stuff lying around..
19:24 sfan5 +worth of
19:25 dafull97 such as/
19:25 dafull97 *?
19:25 sfan5 <sfan5> oh, I also have an 17'' TFT WXGA+ TFT with LVDS interface lying around
19:25 sfan5 * sfan5 has an 64GB HDD (IDE 3,5') and 250GB HDD (SATA 2,5') lying around
19:26 sfan5 does anyone here have a Pebble?
19:27 thexyz I have a 16 gb IDE 3.5, am I cool?
19:27 sfan5 yes :P
19:27 thexyz I've also covered a hole it says not to hover
19:27 thexyz how's that?
19:28 sfan5 post a pic to /r/firstworldanarchists
19:29 dafull97 sfan5, you are in #minetest?
19:29 dafull97 i mean #minecraft?
19:30 sfan5 yes
19:30 dafull97 they are brats
19:30 markveidemanis anyone know of any simple web apps, like mtremote?
19:31 dafull97 i have an idea for minetest
19:33 Menche and... ?
19:33 dafull97 make it so you can play minetest on the internet, such as a webpage
19:34 Menche that's been discussed before. it would probably be rather difficult.
19:34 dafull97 it which ways?
19:34 Menche minecraft can because it's written in java, which can be run as a browser plugin.
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19:35 dafull97 ohh, and minetest isnt
19:35 Menche i'm not sure, but minetest would probably have to be rewritten or heavily modified to run in a browser.
19:36 dafull97 yes, =/ sucks
19:36 Menche would definitely be nice, but not really practical.
19:36 dafull97 yes... =/ hah
19:37 rubenwardy Irrlicht has a webgl port
19:37 rubenwardy but not cpp!
19:37 rubenwardy You could make a plugin for it
19:37 thexyz emscripten!
19:37 rubenwardy I dont think it is worth it
19:37 thexyz hey, we'll probably get to the news
19:38 Jordach oh it is
19:38 thexyz with crazy shit like this
19:38 thexyz even if it works at 5 fps on top hardware
19:39 sfan5 I have compiled irrlicht using emscripten
19:39 sfan5 but linking it to something takes like 10 minutes
19:39 Jordach ...what hasnt sfan5 compiled
19:39 sfan5 I haven't compiled MinetestBot
19:40 MinetestBot Meow, you've compiled Python...
19:40 thexyz sfan5: does it work?
19:40 sfan5 nope, emscripted is missing some SDL function
19:40 sfan5 MinetestBot: thats right, how did you know?
19:40 sfan5 emscripten*
19:40 sfan5 functions*
19:42 thexyz wow so unfriendly
19:42 Jordach so wow thexyz butthurt
19:42 EvergreenTree y u so mean?   :(
19:42 EvergreenTree jk
19:42 sfan5 y u so tree?   :(
19:43 * Jordach has a joke related to wood
19:43 thexyz Jordach: try harder next time
19:43 EvergreenTree because I'm a tree
19:43 * Jordach might introduce EvergreenTree with the words: morning wood!
19:43 * EvergreenTree barks at MinetestBot
19:43 Jordach hah bark
19:43 rubenwardy I haven't compiled MinetestBot
19:44 rubenwardy bye all
19:44 EvergreenTree cya
19:44 MinetestBot grr, EvergreenTree
19:44 MinetestBot meow~
19:44 EvergreenTree rar
19:44 EvergreenTree .rar
19:44 * MinetestBot runs away
19:44 sfan5 kill it with a free trail
19:44 EvergreenTree plol
19:44 sfan5 trial*
19:44 Jordach trial*
19:44 rubenwardy Wow! Minetestbot is saying stuff! he must be self-aware
19:45 sfan5 she*
19:45 * MinetestBot comes back
19:45 * MinetestBot claws at rubenwardy
19:45 Jordach naughty girtl
19:45 Jordach girl*
19:45 rubenwardy autocorrect girtl -> git
19:45 EvergreenTree !sit
19:45 * MinetestBot sits
19:46 * Jordach pets MinetestBot
19:46 * MinetestBot purrs
19:46 Jordach :3
19:46 sfan5 !stand
19:46 * MinetestBot stands up and serves Jordach a tea
19:46 Menche !fetch
19:46 Jordach woo tea
19:46 * MinetestBot fetches the ball
19:46 * Jordach cuddles MinetestBot
19:46 rubenwardy Are the real commands, or is sfan5 using !say, !me?
19:46 * MinetestBot purrs
19:46 EvergreenTree rubenwardy, can you guess?   :P
19:46 sfan5 ^
19:47 rubenwardy yeah
19:47 Jordach ^
19:47 sfan5 ^
19:47 Jordach ^
19:47 sfan5 ^
19:47 EvergreenTree carrot!
19:47 rubenwardy ^
19:47 sfan5 tree!
19:47 Jordach C-C-C-C-OMBO BREAKER
19:47 sfan5 haha
19:47 Menche ^
19:47 rubenwardy Bedtime children
19:47 Menche ^
19:47 EvergreenTree I have to hand it to you Jordach, that was the best comob breaker I've seen in a while
19:47 sfan5 rubenwardy: it's only 20:47
19:47 EvergreenTree *combo
19:47 * Jordach pisses self laughing
19:48 rubenwardy dirty Jordach
19:48 Jordach Jordach:self_piss(laughing)
19:48 * MinetestBot purrs
19:48 rubenwardy wear a napy
19:48 Jordach fuck that
19:48 rubenwardy nappy
19:48 Jordach it's an expression rubenwardy
19:48 rubenwardy I know :P
19:48 rubenwardy Jordach:piss(laughing);Jor​dach.piss(sfan5,laughing);
19:48 Jordach rubenwardy, Lua
19:48 rubenwardy yeah
19:48 Jordach i use fucking Lua you boron
19:48 sfan5 Lua Lua Lua Lua Lua Lua Lua Lua Lua
19:49 * MinetestBot meows silently
19:49 Jordach sfan5[1]: unexpected character before
19:49 rubenwardy you use ; to put commands on to one line
19:49 rubenwardy s/commands/instructions
19:49 EvergreenTree !sleep
19:49 * MinetestBot meows and goes to sleep
19:50 rubenwardy !s -s -t 1000 -m bye!
19:50 MinetestBot Zzz..
19:51 sfan5 MinetestBot: wake up!
19:51 * MinetestBot wakes up
19:51 EvergreenTree ^ Yes I notice that you noticed that this notice is not worth noticing
19:51 EvergreenTree rise and shine MinetestBot
19:51 EvergreenTree after that 5 second nap
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19:52 sfan5 I noticed that you noticed that you noticed that the notice is not worth noticing
19:52 EvergreenTree /s/notice/infinity
19:52 sfan5 stack overflow error
19:55 EvergreenTree That was the most hilarious chat I've had in a while on this channel
19:55 sfan5 I liked it :D
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19:56 sfan5 init: goddangit, I need to add another nickname to pisg.conf
19:56 sfan5 wait no
19:56 sfan5 I already have this
19:56 * sfan5 generates a new irc statistics
19:56 sfan5 -a
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19:58 Jordach OH SHITR
19:58 Jordach -R
19:58 sfan5 lol
19:58 * Jordach machine guns down sfan5 with an Uzi
19:59 * sfan5 points his /dev/urandom cannon at Jordach and fires
19:59 * Jordach grabs a /dev/null shield
20:00 sfan5 :-/
20:00 * sfan5 pulls out his black hole gun and shoots a black hole into /dev/null
20:00 Jordach Program Exception: Swag Overflow
20:00 sfan5 plol
20:00 sfan5 you know what
20:01 Jordach new quote time
20:01 sfan5 animate what just happend in blender and ..
20:01 sfan5 dunno... would be awesome though
20:01 Jordach mhm
20:01 Jordach could be done within 2000 frames
20:02 Jordach \o/
20:02 Jordach Minetest Forums has made 8th on chrome most visited
20:03 EvergreenTree It's 3rd most visited forme
20:03 EvergreenTree *for me
20:03 * Jordach sets the channel tune to Savant - ISM (Original Mix)
20:03 sfan5 I need 993 posts to have 3000
20:03 sfan5 Jordach: that .. is awesome
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20:04 Jordach sfan5[1] Concat error; string not finished
20:04 EvergreenTree Savant is awesome
20:04 sfan5 ^
20:04 * sfan5 opens up Spotify
20:04 Jordach sfan5, Best of Savant playlist is made by me
20:04 Jordach ;)
20:04 * sfan5 searches
20:05 thexyz https://www.facebook.com/internetexplorertan
20:05 Jordach sfan5, or search thejordach ;)
20:05 EvergreenTree Jordach, I can think of some good artists:   Virtual Riot, Nitro fun, most artists in monstercat...
20:05 sfan5 thexyz: dat title picture, why would anyone draw something like that D:
20:07 * EvergreenTree swings at sfan5 with an 8-bit lightsaber
20:07 Jordach Shall we explore the web? <- I know where I wanna search :D
20:07 Jordach </trollface>
20:07 * sfan5 throws a kitten at EvergreenTree
20:07 thexyz I want to download it but the link just brings me back to facebook
20:07 sfan5 Jordach: oh please no
20:08 sfan5 thexyz: you mean that? https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-​ak-ash3/1208666_465281160254296_746856983_n.png
20:08 Calinou facebook photo warning
20:08 thexyz sfan5: > www.internetexplorertan.com/download
20:08 PilzAdam sfan5, did you just place a kitten on a tree?
20:08 sfan5 PilzAdam: yes
20:08 sfan5 thexyz: oh..
20:08 * Jordach gets a ladder to retrieve MinetestBot
20:09 Jordach come 'ere girl
20:09 PilzAdam sfan5, you are a mean person, that kitten is afraid of height!
20:09 EvergreenTree someone get MinetestBot off of me
20:09 sfan5 PilzAdam: who said EvergreenTree is a full grown tree?
20:09 PilzAdam I implied it
20:09 * Jordach carries MinetestBot down the ladder
20:09 sfan5 thexyz: I think it is supposed to be a facebook app >https://www.facebook.com/internet​explorertan/app_1422641071287146
20:10 thexyz sfan5: uh, facebook's got such unfriendly interface
20:10 sfan5 yep
20:10 thexyz where's the app?
20:11 thexyz I see the same page as https://www.facebook.com/internetexplorertan/
20:11 sfan5 I guess it's not there yet
20:11 Jordach MinetestTan anyone
20:11 EvergreenTree This is me ->  http://bioweb.uwlax.edu/bio203/​s2009/madisen_neil/IMG_0111.JPG
20:11 sfan5 I still wonder how many money M$ paid
20:11 thexyz alright
20:11 Jordach EvergreenTree, i thought that was a legit pic
20:11 Jordach :P
20:11 EvergreenTree lol
20:12 EvergreenTree it is, I'm a tree after all
20:12 khonkhortisan He is a cat. He's a cat. He's got a cat. He has got a cat. He has a cat.
20:12 sfan5 s/cat/kitten/
20:13 EvergreenTree Now can someone get this kitten off me?
20:13 thexyz also http://sdrv.ms/internetexplorertan
20:13 sfan5 Jordach: which of the 4 playlists is it?
20:13 sfan5 EvergreenTree: Jordach already did
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20:14 EvergreenTree Oh, this one isn't MinetestBot then
20:14 EvergreenTree shoo other kitten shoo
20:14 Jordach sfan5, Savant's Ultimate Tunes
20:14 PilzAdam I would get it, but pilztest doesnt have ladders...
20:14 Jordach renamed it :D
20:15 init lol sfq
20:15 init sfan5: *
20:15 sfan5 ^ how to not use tab
20:16 EvergreenTree Jordach, Au5 - Blossom, Eminence - Falling Stars, Tristam & Braken - Flight
20:16 EvergreenTree tab
20:16 EvergreenTree ^ not how to use tab
20:16 PilzAdam
20:16 PilzAdam ^ not how to use tab
20:16 Jordach Bananonymous FTW
20:16 PilzAdam (i.e. 4 spaces)
20:17 sfan5 EvergreenTree: are you looking at my soundcloud stream or what?
20:17 EvergreenTree No,just throwing some good tracks out there
20:18 EvergreenTree Nice to see someone who likes the same music as I do though
20:18 * Jordach wants to play Scrabble with EvergreenTree and sfan5
20:18 EvergreenTree ^ true dat
20:18 * sfan5 needs to prepare for an exam on friday
20:19 EvergreenTree Scrabble is one of my favorite board games
20:19 Jordach prepare for your examination!
20:19 EvergreenTree I once got 35 points for just putting "ye"
20:20 Jordach forums scrabble
20:20 Jordach your tiles will be PM'ed to you
20:21 Jordach anyone like RISK
20:21 PilzAdam Jordach, 68 posts
20:22 EvergreenTree Hmm, haven't played it much
20:24 EvergreenTree Email chess anyone?   :D
20:24 sfan5 lol
20:24 sfan5 someone made chess in assembly for the pi
20:24 EvergreenTree Imagine mail chess...
20:24 sfan5 (bare-metal ofc)
20:24 sfan5 that is how I got the idea to write a C kernel for the pi
20:25 sfan5 NO SPOTIFY I DON'T WANT TO HEAR BF4 ADS!
20:27 EvergreenTree M-M-M-M-MANSLAUGHTER (Let's be Friends - Manslaughter (original mix))
20:27 EvergreenTree Whoops, I mean (VIP mix)
20:28 sfan5 very ontopics discussion in #minetest ....
20:28 sfan5 -s
20:29 EvergreenTree Yep
20:29 EvergreenTree This is the channel for chit-chat though
20:29 sfan5 yeah
20:29 EvergreenTree -dev is for minetest development
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20:37 init sfan5: was at droid
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20:47 PilzAdam bye
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21:29 ShadowNinja Baaad ISP, baaad. :-(
21:31 * TheLastProject hits ShadowNinja's ISP with a stick
21:32 * init hits ShadowNinja with a stick and runs
21:33 ShadowNinja !kick init /me hits back. ;-)
21:33 init was kicked by MinetestBot: /me hits back. ;-)
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21:33 EvergreenTree init, .lua
21:34 ShadowNinja init: Auto-rejoin, a good way to get banned...
21:34 init i don't get kicked, normally
21:34 init ;)
21:35 Peacock dumb reason to kick anyhow
21:35 Peacock this place is soo lively we can hardly afford to lose any more warm bodies :P
21:36 * init puts Peacock's body in the freezer
21:37 Peacock i already have lousy circulation :P guess i shoulda thought of that before buying a touchscreen smartphone in a winter country lol
21:41 * sfan5 cuts the cable of the freezer Peacock is in
21:41 Peacock there are fish sticks in here
21:46 Peacock wait, those arent fishticks... omg, what did you guys do to cornernote?!
21:49 sfan5 D:
21:55 * EvergreenTree is learning how to use vim
21:56 Peacock apply on surface, use wet sponge to wipe excess
21:57 Menche stick with it. it took me a week or two to get used to vim
21:57 Menche now it's the only editor i use
21:57 Peacock that's a text editor right?
21:57 Menche ...yeah
21:57 Peacock what kind of text editor has a learning curve? lol
21:57 Menche a text editor with features.
21:58 Peacock gedit has features, didn't take me a week to learn lol
21:58 Menche vim is waay more powerful and efficient.
21:59 Peacock well its not the text editor that makes the code, it's the coder :P
22:01 EvergreenTree Peacock, vim has commands.   Lots of commands
22:02 EvergreenTree It's a terminal application if you didn't know
22:02 Peacock ugh, terminal apps lol
22:02 Peacock sorry but i was using comps in the early 90s, no need to go back to that
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22:16 TheLastProject EvergreenTree: VIM IS AWESOME
22:16 Peacock lemon pledge > vim
22:16 TheLastProject Pro-tip: Press "i" before you type, "esc" whenever you pause typing
22:17 TheLastProject Don't stay in input mode, you'll end up doing stupid stuf f:P
22:17 EvergreenTree well, obviously
22:17 TheLastProject Heh, wasn't so obvious for me
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22:20 Peacock jesus christ, what is it with news outlets hiding the volume button and setting it to max
22:23 Menche joined #minetest
22:23 EvergreenTree Peacock, if you don't like terminal applications, try gvim
22:24 Peacock gtk frontend?
22:24 Menche yeah
22:24 Peacock worth a shot yeah
22:25 Menche it has added menus and toolbars, but it's still recommended to use commands the same way as the console version
22:25 Peacock i dont really get what the commands are for though
22:25 Menche so your fingers don't have to leave the home position on the keyboard
22:26 Peacock all i need is syntax highlighting, line numbers, bracket highlighting and decent color schemes
22:26 Menche gvim "desert" color scheme = awesome
22:26 Peacock i need light text on dark backgrounds otherwise = headaches lol
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22:33 jojoa1997 hi
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22:55 OldCoder Hi
22:56 jojoa1997 hi and bye
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23:19 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest_game: Fix tree growing and jungle sapling growth rate 9fdbc1f407 2013-11-06T15:13:51-08:00 http://git.io/n7wQoQ
23:19 VanessaE hi all, back
23:20 VanessaE oh I better grab that
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