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00:01 JesseH The latest is 0.4.7 right?
00:01 FreeFull The latest is git that claims to be 0.4.7 but is newer AFAIK
00:03 Menche the latest stable is 0.4.7
00:03 Menche it's sort of old, i use the latest dev from git
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00:03 FreeFull Maybe the git was changed to not claim it is 0.4.7 anymore
00:04 Menche i think it was
00:04 Exio4 the version is 0.4.7-numbers
00:04 Menche anyway, i've been setting VERSION_EXTRA so i have a different version number for the git version
00:04 Menche i think it does that automatically now
00:10 VanessaE off to bed.  bbl
00:12 OldCoder c u
00:15 OldCoder
00:15 OldCoder I am looking for people to play on updated worlds and assist with them
00:15 OldCoder Very fast server
00:15 OldCoder Loads of CPUs and RAM
00:15 OldCoder But you must help
00:15 OldCoder May get ownership of worlds
00:15 OldCoder Anybody?
00:15 OldCoder
00:17 * NekoGloop bites ShadowBot
00:17 OldCoder NekoGloop, Hi
00:17 OldCoder Trying to bring worlds back
00:17 OldCoder There does not seem to be much interest
00:17 NekoGloop Good for you
00:17 OldCoder Oh well
00:17 OldCoder But server is very powerful
00:19 OldCoder Down to just 4 mods before Zegaton test: pulverize_all  spawn  teleporters  xdoors2
00:19 OldCoder Can anybody at all comment on these mods?
00:19 * OldCoder bbs
00:25 OldCoder Back
00:25 OldCoder Nobody?
00:26 Naked gonna need to download latest client
00:26 OldCoder Hm?
00:26 OldCoder k
00:27 * OldCoder is offering a powerful server and worlds... but apparently few takers
00:27 Naked I will try them
00:27 OldCoder Ah!
00:27 OldCoder t y
00:28 OldCoder I don't suppose you know who made the "spawn" mod or where to get it?
00:28 Naked no
00:28 OldCoder t y
00:28 OldCoder Nor pulverize all
00:28 OldCoder All right
00:29 Naked same server address as before?
00:30 Naked trying minetest.org 30000
00:33 OldCoder Not yet
00:33 OldCoder The same worlds are running on an old server
00:33 OldCoder I have updated Zegaton
00:33 OldCoder and will try to restart it in the next hour
00:33 OldCoder If the world can be saved and updated
00:34 Naked I found a set spawn mod by sdzen from 8-11-2013
00:34 OldCoder The others will follow
00:34 OldCoder Those who help
00:34 OldCoder Get the worlds
00:34 OldCoder Oh?
00:34 Naked https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6890
00:34 OldCoder R
00:34 OldCoder I think Zegaton's spawn is by sfan5
00:34 OldCoder But one step at a time
00:34 Naked looking for more just in case
00:34 OldCoder Thank you!
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00:35 Shurtugal Compiling takes a long time- i made myself a tv dinner :)
00:37 Naked Mods: Sethome by xyz, Home GUI by cornernot. both are 2012 mods dont know if they will work without trouble in newest version
00:37 zat https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6890 ← what for?
00:38 zat would like to know before downloading
00:38 Naked thats it from searching  spawn on the forums Old mods, modding, and released mods pages
00:38 Menche what does the spawn mod do?
00:40 Naked brb
00:40 Shurtugal Thank you so much mench, compiling worked
00:41 Shurtugal bye ^-^
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00:53 shurtugal Taking forever to connect to a server :( says stuck on "media..."
00:53 JesseH Are minetest mods forced to use lgpl
00:54 shurtugal The bar is actually moving now :|
01:04 khonkhortisan mods can choose their licences
01:04 khonkhortisan or none at all if you don't want it to be "official"
01:08 JesseH What are the biggest problems modders have?
01:08 * JesseH wishes to make peoples lives easier
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02:14 dante123 hi all, got dev version installed.....wanting to create a "continents" map.....do I need worldedit mod for this??
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02:23 dante123 is this syntax right?  load_mod_worldedit = true
02:26 Menche if the mod is named "worldedit" that's right. I think worldedit is a modpack composed of many submods though
02:27 dante123 do i just move the worldedit folder to the mods folder or do i open it and then move its contents
02:27 dante123 cause right now it doesn seem to be finding the mod (i moved the folders contents to mod folder...but not the main folder itself)
02:28 Menche to use it as a modpack, just copy the entire folder to mods/
02:29 Menche just install it and run minetest; if it finds it, it will add load_mod_whatever to the world.mt set to false. just close minetest and set them all to true.
02:29 dante123 MineTest-WorldEdit-1.0 is the name of the folder...just move the whole thing into mods folder right?
02:30 Menche yeah, if it contains several sub-folders and a file named "modpack.txt"
02:31 dante123 it does have a file named modpack, but it still isn't finding it....there is a mod tab do I use that
02:32 dante123 still not showing up
02:32 dante123 hmmm
02:33 dante123 when I made the world I made it singlenode,....could that be part of the problem
02:33 dante123 what does v6, v7, singlenode, indev, math actually mean?
02:36 Menche those are different c++ mapgens
02:36 Menche if you set it to singlenode, your world will be empty. that means only 1 type of node, by default just air.
02:37 Menche unless you have some mapgen done in lua, of course, which is what singlenode was made for.
02:38 Menche indev is probably the best general-purpose mapgen. it's basically v6 with a few more features. v7 isn't complete yet and math is a crazy abstract mapgen.
02:44 Naked v7 s only generating stone
02:49 Menche you can define biomes for v7 in lua, but nobody wants to do that by default
02:49 Naked Ill give it a try
02:51 Naked is there a doc on how to do that in v7?
02:52 Menche i don't think so
02:52 Menche Pilztest has biome definitions
02:52 Menche that's what i looked at as a reference
02:55 Naked where di you find the?
02:55 Naked them
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03:13 Naked https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?id=7272&p=2
03:13 Naked love the menu mockups
03:26 NekoGloop public nudity is indecent
03:26 NekoGloop *says the cat*
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04:27 GNADev|zRokh hi
04:28 GNADev|zRokh i'm making a website where you can order websites (HTML, PHP and CSS) from :D
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04:43 GNADev|zRokh bye biggums
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06:12 JesseH Can anyone provide feedback on this? https://github.com/jessehorne/modhelp What else does it need to be really useful, or could it become useful in the first place?
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07:48 Krock hello people
07:49 Calinou hi
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08:44 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Habitat Day! :-D
08:44 Jordach ...is that a scripe
08:44 Jordach script*
08:46 VanessaE hi all
08:51 JamesTait Jordach, no, but I should script it.
08:51 * JesseH waves
08:52 JamesTait But if I did, *I* wouldn't know what day I should be celebrating. ;)
08:52 VanessaE haha
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09:21 Hunterz trying sea mod, but even if enable noairblock, still around sea plants are air :(
09:21 Hunterz like plant are in the air node
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10:39 Exio4 hi
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10:54 jojoa1997 Thanks a lot for a huge headache and scare Ubuntu users
10:55 jojoa1997 Can anyone help me with some Linux/windows stuff on dual boot. I can't find anything online
10:56 Hunterz what problem have you?
10:57 jojoa1997 Well after 6 hours total of researching I found out that if I install Ubuntu onto an external hard disk it will move grub onto that disk and the one on the computer is gone. Ubuntu is on the external and windows internal. How would I get windows to work without having to connect the external hdd
10:58 jojoa1997 Also I have gotten to grub by starting PC with HDD but had to leave before going into any os
11:00 Hunterz is in internal disk boot flag?
11:00 jojoa1997 What
11:00 Hunterz boot flag for win partition
11:00 jojoa1997 I installed ubuntu via install ubutnu on the desktop after pressing try ubuntu
11:01 jojoa1997 Yes
11:01 Hunterz dont know ubuntu
11:01 jojoa1997 But both OS's are on separate diska
11:01 Hunterz just take windows dvd a try to repair booting of this os
11:02 jojoa1997 Yeah tried that don't work
11:02 jojoa1997 Do I have to install grub on the internal disk?
11:02 Hunterz think no
11:03 Hunterz try search what ubuntu installer overwrite on internal disk
11:04 Hunterz maybe boot sector or something
11:05 jojoa1997 Well I will find out later somehow gtg
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11:23 Pelayo is there a parameter or something for forcing minetest to run under opengl 1.0 or 2.0 or something?
11:27 Jordach nope
11:28 Jordach if you are on windows with OpenGL 1.x, you should be using Direct3D8/9, if you are on windows with OpenGL 2.1.x you should be using OpenGL
11:29 Pelayo I'm in linux, and it works really fast in my worst laptop with opengl 2.something, and slow in my good laptop with opengl 3.0
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11:38 GNADev|zRokh hi!
11:38 GNADev|zRokh (^.^)
11:45 Jordach don't you just fucking love MIT? http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2013/simple-s​cheme-for-self-assembling-robots-1004.html
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11:47 GNADev|zRokh woah :D
11:47 GNADev|zRokh nice :D
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11:50 * GNADev|zRokh loves Led Zeppelin - The Ocean
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11:58 dafull97 Hey guys
11:58 JesseH Jordach, I love MIT license yes :P
12:00 mahomet self assembling robots?!
12:00 mahomet they'll colonise us!
12:04 Jordach I have seen the future; and it is awesome
12:06 * JesseH personally can't wait for robots to take over manual labor and for libertarian socialism to take over :P
12:06 JesseH wont take too long
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12:08 * dafull97 is bored in school already
12:09 JesseH dafull97, what grade ya in
12:09 Jordach dafull97, https://news.google.com
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12:16 GNADev|zRokh OMFG!!!!! i was on the last level of D-Pad Hero 2 and i wanted to click ALT+Enter but clicked ALT+Delete... :( and i didnt save :(
12:18 JesseH :(
12:18 JesseH I'm playing a song on my keyboard now, inspired by your sad story.
12:18 JesseH I call it "life is full of sadness"
12:19 GNADev|zRokh :D
12:19 JesseH ^_^
12:20 JesseH Jordach, Ill love MIT when they let me go there for free
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12:21 GNADev|zRokh :D
12:22 GNADev|zRokh well, JesseH, get a full scholarship
12:22 GNADev|zRokh then i think you can...
12:22 JesseH I don't believe college life is for me
12:22 JesseH Who knows, that could change
12:22 JesseH But they don't teach you world domination in college
12:22 JesseH (that i know of)
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12:24 GNADev|zRokh do you really think they would advertise that? like "Hey you! Want to be the dictator of the world? Study at that top-secret cave in area 51
12:24 JesseH There are caves in government facilities? Bad ass
12:24 VanessaE sure, in old bomed-out locales ;))
12:24 VanessaE bombed-out*
12:25 JesseH My goal is to not run the world, as dictator
12:25 GNADev|zRokh LOL, i haven't ever been to the US and yet i know a bit about it :D
12:25 JesseH I want to run the world, secretly, to improve it
12:26 JesseH 1.) we need to unite all the people under one nation
12:26 JesseH 2.) get a high level of education out to all of the world
12:26 JesseH (all
12:26 JesseH )
12:26 JesseH basic income, wealth spreading etc
12:26 VanessaE dream on
12:26 JesseH Then, space colonization
12:27 JesseH meanwhile, let the robots do all of our labor
12:27 VanessaE never gonna happen, not without at least another couple of world wars
12:27 JesseH No one said it was going to be easy.
12:27 GNADev|zRokh WWIII, WWIV, GTAV etc...
12:27 JesseH A lot of stupid people are going to have to die off before it can happen :P
12:27 JesseH Not stupid as in uneducated, but stupid as in, greedy educated
12:28 JesseH Oh and those radical religious types
12:28 JesseH The ones that still stone people ._.
12:28 GNADev|zRokh OMFG, i did a song in D-Pad Hero II and ended up with MAX HEALTH!!! YAYUH!!! :D
12:28 VanessaE JesseH: right
12:29 JesseH but until then ill write lua codes and just pretend i rule the world :P
12:29 VanessaE heh
12:29 GNADev|zRokh well, you rule as many worlds as there are in your worlds folder :P
12:30 JesseH Yes indeed
12:30 JesseH can someone look at github.com/jessehorne/modhelp and see if i can improve that to be more useful
12:33 GNADev|zRokh omg, i finished the song but i got no achievements :/
12:35 JesseH nes lova
12:35 GNADev|zRokh yes, nes, but whats lova?
12:35 JesseH lover
12:35 JesseH :P
12:35 GNADev|zRokh oh :D
12:35 GNADev|zRokh nah dood
12:35 GNADev|zRokh i'm a retro lover :P
12:35 GNADev|zRokh i LOVE classic games
12:36 dafull97 JesseH, 11th
12:36 GNADev|zRokh Zelda (SNES), SMB (NES/SNES), Quake (DOS) :P
12:37 JesseH dafull97, I was in 11th once :D
12:38 JesseH Well, I said I was. It turns out the school system secretly had me in 10th
12:38 JesseH End of year, I'm like "finally 12th grade", then they tell me nope you're going to 11th
12:38 GNADev|zRokh :D
12:38 GNADev|zRokh LOL :D
12:38 JesseH it wasnt funny at the time :(
12:38 GNADev|zRokh well, im in the 8th grade :D
12:39 JesseH oh lord
12:39 JesseH good times
12:39 GNADev|zRokh :D
12:39 JesseH <3 middle school man
12:39 JesseH best years of my life
12:39 GNADev|zRokh ikr :D
12:39 GNADev|zRokh no, not rlly..
12:39 JesseH highschool, thanks to the shitty school system changes, were my worst
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12:39 GNADev|zRokh lol :D
12:40 JesseH How to succeed in highschool: 1.) have sexual intercourse with lots of women
12:40 JesseH 2.) try not to let the teachers dumb you down
12:40 JesseH 3.) learn a lot, dont be a dick etc etc
12:40 * GNADev|zRokh only has ONE. MORE. ACHIEVEMENT.
12:40 JesseH ~!
12:40 JesseH good luck GNA dev zrokh
12:40 GNADev|zRokh well, what if i told you that im the best in my class at English and math :D
12:40 GNADev|zRokh thanks :D
12:41 GNADev|zRokh JesseH, two words... State Saved!
12:41 JesseH then I would say good job
12:41 GNADev|zRokh oh, and also best at Programming :D
12:41 JesseH I assume no one else programs in your school? :P
12:42 JesseH Thats how it was in mine
12:42 GNADev|zRokh dunz know dood
12:42 GNADev|zRokh wait... you program?
12:42 JesseH O_o
12:42 JesseH Do I code? O_o
12:42 JesseH I am unsure
12:42 JesseH I think its what i do
12:42 JesseH could be wrong
12:42 VanessaE why do I sense a "do you even lift?" reference here?
12:42 GNADev|zRokh dunz == don't and dood == dude (thats how the Baccas speak)\
12:42 JesseH VanessaE, o behave
12:43 VanessaE no :P
12:43 GNADev|zRokh xD
12:43 VanessaE :)
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12:43 JesseH austin powers reference much? :P
12:43 GNADev|zRokh yeah :D
12:43 * JesseH likes GNADev|zRokh
12:43 GNADev|zRokh i was jsut going to say that :D
12:43 * GNADev|zRokh is not gay
12:43 JesseH and i dont like little boys ._.
12:44 GNADev|zRokh (T_T)
12:44 * JesseH likes VanessaE two
12:44 GNADev|zRokh too**
12:44 * JesseH is just derpin around
12:44 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, what languages do you know
12:44 JesseH or use
12:45 GNADev|zRokh ugh... actual languages or do programming languages also count?
12:45 JesseH programming languages
12:45 JesseH of course
12:45 VanessaE well I'm very likable I think :)
12:45 JesseH you're wrong >:(
12:45 JesseH I jk you're right
12:46 GNADev|zRokh well, Java, PHP (like 25%), (when also counting in markup languages and similar stuff then) HTML, CSS, Python, Python3
12:46 VanessaE :O
12:46 VanessaE :'(
12:46 GNADev|zRokh English, Russian, Estonian
12:46 GNADev|zRokh btw, JesseH, it's >:O
12:46 GNADev|zRokh :D
12:46 JesseH :P
12:46 JesseH Java will land you a job easily
12:46 GNADev|zRokh really?
12:46 JesseH So yeah if you like that sort of thing, stick with it
12:47 GNADev|zRokh i dont get it why do people hate Java?
12:47 JesseH Don't listen to them, most of them don't know what they are talking about
12:47 GNADev|zRokh !*
12:47 GNADev|zRokh yeah
12:47 JesseH and the ones that do, are not relevant to your needs
12:47 GNADev|zRokh yeah :D
12:48 JesseH If you like it, you have a upper hand. I know a lot of java devs that hate it but still have to use it XD
12:48 GNADev|zRokh an upper hand**
12:48 GNADev|zRokh LOL :D
12:48 GNADev|zRokh well, i think that Java is easy and understandable
12:48 JesseH i learned basic before I learned english, so my english is bad
12:48 GNADev|zRokh LOL :D
12:49 GNADev|zRokh yeah, GREAT example......
12:49 GNADev|zRokh btw, one does not learn Basic before English... -_-
12:49 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, just dont build any games with it and youll be fine
12:49 dafull97 JesseH, ohh, how old are you?
12:49 GNADev|zRokh <:O
12:49 GNADev|zRokh but im making a game... for a school project
12:49 JesseH Nope, I learned how to do simple BASIC things before I fully understood english :P
12:49 GNADev|zRokh <:/
12:50 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, okay but keep it there. :P
12:50 GNADev|zRokh ok :D
12:50 JesseH dafull97, I am infinite
12:50 GNADev|zRokh rlly? that must be pretty old... well, im ageless :D
12:50 JesseH I don't like revealing my age.
12:51 dafull97 JesseH, haha funny!
12:51 dafull97 JesseH, why not?
12:51 JesseH Lets not refer to each other by how ages, lets refer to each other by our skill level.
12:51 JesseH I am a beginner, with a beginners mind.
12:51 JesseH dafull97, secret reasons
12:51 GNADev|zRokh i am a 14 year old with a 24 year olds brain :P
12:52 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, lets hope not
12:52 GNADev|zRokh yet pretty immature :D
12:52 GNADev|zRokh why?
12:52 JesseH Go ahead and say that you are 11
12:52 GNADev|zRokh no, i really am 14... >:O
12:52 JesseH Because, if you know that much at 11, imagine what youll know when you are 24
12:53 GNADev|zRokh well, i am the same height as an 11 year old......
12:53 GNADev|zRokh xD
12:53 JesseH I understand what you mean
12:53 JesseH I feel like I am speaking with my past self
12:53 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, I have some advice to give you.
12:53 * GNADev|zRokh got the last achievement
12:53 GNADev|zRokh ok, let it rip :D
12:53 VanessaE I feel like I'm managing a nursery school here..
12:53 JesseH Take school fucking seriously
12:54 GNADev|zRokh i am dood :D
12:54 JesseH okay, thats it :P
12:54 JesseH oh and code everyday
12:54 JesseH dont aim for a 9-5
12:54 JesseH aim to own 5-9 companies
12:54 JesseH or more
12:54 JesseH :P
12:54 JesseH VanessaE, You are, isnt it great?
12:54 VanessaE no :P
12:54 GNADev|zRokh 1. i haven't missed a single lesson at school this quarter, i haven't gotten any F's this quarter and i haven't gotten to any trouble this quarter
12:55 JesseH So much better than myself GNADev|zRokh you really should be proud
12:55 GNADev|zRokh JesseH: well, i am making a small group-company :D GNADev :D
12:55 VanessaE yeah but this is only the first quarter isn't it
12:55 VanessaE ?
12:55 GNADev|zRokh rlly?
12:55 GNADev|zRokh yeah....
12:55 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, good shit, keep that attitude
12:55 GNADev|zRokh last year i was like the devil itself :D
12:55 JesseH please do good in school :P
12:55 GNADev|zRokh nah, dood, its dat guuuuuud shit :D
12:56 * JesseH feels like he is referring to cannabis
12:56 GNADev|zRokh nah
12:56 JesseH oh, good ._.
12:56 GNADev|zRokh thats how the baccas say it!
12:56 JesseH The baccas?
12:56 JesseH Is that like saying "niqqa" in america?
12:56 GNADev|zRokh i have smoked (cigarettes) but i quit like 3 years ago :D
12:56 GNADev|zRokh no
12:56 GNADev|zRokh bacca == Human chewbacca :D
12:57 GNADev|zRokh google ASFJerome :D
12:57 JesseH ._.
12:57 JesseH Thats another tip
12:57 * GNADev|zRokh has 6/6 D-Pad Pieces!
12:57 JesseH Do not ever pick up a cigarette
12:57 GNADev|zRokh yeah :P
12:57 GNADev|zRokh how about light drinks?
12:57 JesseH if you are really the past me, then you will love it, and waste so much money on it >_<
12:57 GNADev|zRokh like Pina Colata?
12:57 JesseH dont ever drink, youll become addicted to the taste itself
12:57 JesseH not even the feeling
12:58 JesseH wait until you are at least 18 to experiment with mind altering substances :P
12:58 JesseH Do it for the future GNADev|zRokh
12:59 GNADev|zRokh well not that much, i only drink 1-2 pina colatas a year (maybe twice that much, depends...) on Christmas and new year's eve
12:59 JesseH Anyone else want to create a brand new game using the MT engine? :P i do
12:59 GNADev|zRokh :P
12:59 GNADev|zRokh hey, how about GTA VI :D
12:59 JesseH I have gta v
12:59 JesseH on xbox
12:59 dafull97 i am starting a Virus Removal business somtime this week LOL
12:59 JesseH Do et
12:59 JesseH Youll be rich
13:00 dafull97 who me?
13:00 JesseH yes
13:00 dafull97 oh... not really LOL
13:00 JesseH Eventually. It's a good start
13:00 JesseH You should be like, 16-17?
13:01 dafull97 16
13:01 JesseH wicked :D
13:02 dafull97 LOl
13:02 dafull97 LOL*
13:02 GNADev|zRokh :D
13:03 dafull97 well, i cannot say i am not dumb... i made a program that shuts down a whole routers computers
13:03 dafull97 used it in my class room
13:04 dafull97 LOL
13:04 GNADev|zRokh JesseH, wanna see what i've started yesterday?
13:04 GNADev|zRokh wait
13:04 JesseH used to love playing with netsend :3
13:04 JesseH until they figured out netsend sends the name of your computer >:(
13:04 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, sure man :D
13:05 GNADev|zRokh http://i.imgur.com/zY6ydsI.png
13:05 JesseH oh lawd :D
13:05 GNADev|zRokh do you like it?
13:05 JesseH We have an aspiring web dev here :D
13:06 GNADev|zRokh LOL, not rlly, i only do HTML, CSS and a LITTLE BIT PHP when it comes to web developing :D
13:06 GNADev|zRokh and the logo was generated in Gimp
13:06 JesseH Good stuff
13:06 GNADev|zRokh :D
13:06 JesseH fiddle around with bootstrap, and frameworks like django and rails
13:06 GNADev|zRokh no!
13:06 GNADev|zRokh i will not use them
13:06 JesseH D:
13:06 GNADev|zRokh i will make my own :D
13:06 JesseH That's what I'm doing :D
13:06 GNADev|zRokh LOL :D
13:07 GNADev|zRokh will it be called WebJH?
13:07 JesseH I warn you, you will need to have a deep understand on exactly what you need :P
13:07 GNADev|zRokh i know... :P
13:07 JesseH So its best to make lots of web apps and then youll know
13:07 JesseH how to create a framework
13:07 * JesseH is learning this now
13:07 GNADev|zRokh lol :D
13:07 GNADev|zRokh so, JesseH, what do you think of the name: WebJH :D
13:07 JesseH It is interesting
13:08 JesseH I want to name a weird veggie
13:08 JesseH like Corn
13:08 JesseH or Sausage
13:08 JesseH sausage isnt a veggie tho!
13:08 GNADev|zRokh veggie as in the underwear pull?
13:08 JesseH vegetables
13:08 * JesseH goes to find food, brb
13:08 GNADev|zRokh oh :D
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13:12 Jordach wat wat wat]
13:12 GNADev|zRokh https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7379
13:12 Jordach > adblock
13:12 Jordach > youtube
13:12 Jordach > displayed ad
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13:12 GNADev|zRokh ???
13:13 GNADev|zRokh well bye!
13:13 GNADev|zRokh oh, and Jordach, could you please tell JesseH to look at the link when he gets back?
13:13 GNADev|zRokh thanks!
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13:15 dafull97 ok im back
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13:31 dafull97 time change classes, be back later
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13:51 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/ww1hY5Y.jpg
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14:05 pitriss please how i can redefine default:water_flowing ? I just copied that definition from default into my own lua file and I'm getting "Name default:water_flowing does not follow naming conventions: "modname:" or ":" prefix required"
14:10 * Jordach thinks adding two new rules to the forum: No adf.ly links and No .rar archives
14:10 Jordach pitriss, :default:water_flowing
14:10 pitriss ahh ok, ty.. I will try that:)
14:10 Jordach if you put a colon in front of :<mod name>:<node name>
14:10 Jordach then it will override anything
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14:12 pitriss Jordach: ah okay.. I'm trying add drowning into technic_game.. I figured that in water definition is missing drowning=1
14:13 Jordach hmm
14:13 pitriss but i want it as separate file to be able easily update this game
14:13 pitriss eh not file, more like mod..
14:15 CraigyDavi I'm still getting this error while loading my server: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Player::deSerialize(): PlayerArgsEnd of player "abcdefg" not found.
14:16 CraigyDavi All player files have no text although I can still hilight it.
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14:17 CraigyDavi Seems like a player called "D" has done this as they are the only player which still has thier file/
14:19 CraigyDavi There are these wierd files called .~Mt Could this have anything to do with this?
14:19 Pelayo why no rar? O_o
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14:20 Pelayo before that I would forbid any mac user the right of submitting archives, because of all the extra shit mac os x adds to directories... :P
14:23 Exio4 minetest actually doesn't work that well under mac
14:24 Pelayo I have to try it, but even if it worked perfectly it would probably fail on my computer... a barely working hackintosh partition -_-
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14:36 * Jordach pokes sfan5
14:36 * sfan5 pokes Jordach
14:38 JesseH quit it you two ._.
14:39 CraigyDavi Or is there anything else I could do... I have tried everything apart from deleting all the player inventories and they will have to start agian. Is there also anything I can do to stop this from happening. Is it the so called "hackers"?
14:40 Jordach CraigyDavi, Minetest sometimes (accidentially, no idea why) corrupts player files
14:42 CraigyDavi Hmm. I think I'll make more backups more often. Oh and does this mean the port forwarding isnt working or something: ERROR[ServerThread]: Serverlist at url servers.minetest.net error (Timeout was reached)
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14:47 CraigyDavi Because I hope the port forwarding has'nt gone wrong again.
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15:11 Krock I would like to know how to use the minecart... can someone help a newbie?
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15:12 CraigyDavi You first have to place them on rails.
15:12 CraigyDavi Rightclick to get in it.
15:12 CraigyDavi And left click to speed it up
15:12 Jordach (you need to left click it to get it moving then right click)
15:13 Krock okay thanks
15:13 Krock and can i put tihngs inside it?
15:14 CraigyDavi You can on this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=730
15:14 Krock thx
15:14 CraigyDavi but i presume you are using Pilzadam's Carts mod.
15:14 CraigyDavi In which you can't
15:15 Krock oh
15:15 Krock so it's an useless mod until now?
15:16 CraigyDavi Well that mod will only be usefull for traveling in and not transporting stuff.
15:16 Krock hmm but it only goes away without me :3
15:17 Krock if i understood that right...
15:19 twoelk you have to be fast
15:19 twoelk or make a loop
15:20 twoelk or attach a button
15:20 twoelk or...or...
15:20 Krock i'm using pilzadams minecart :/
15:21 twoelk actually powered rails with a button on a mese block near the tracks is a good thing
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15:26 Ritchie_ https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=113490#p113490 spam on forums
15:27 Krock omg! thats the world's END!
15:30 Jordach ninja'd by VanessaE
15:30 Jordach or sfan5
15:30 * sfan5 shows his hand
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15:33 VanessaE afk
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15:36 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
15:37 Krock hey
15:37 Krock new errof for you
15:38 Krock *error
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16:19 markveidemanis Hi
16:21 Calinou hi
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16:24 thefamilygrog66 What does Redd Foxx say?
16:25 Krock It says "Hello"
16:25 Krock Can I ask for asking?
16:30 Calinou yes
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16:48 rubenwardy Hi all
16:49 PilzAdam /nick all ; /msg #minetest hi rubenwardy ; /nick PilzAdam
16:50 rubenwardy ?
16:50 rubenwardy Oh right, I get it
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17:04 Dan_D I have made a car mod.See modding general.
17:04 rubenwardy what are you all doing?
17:04 rubenwardy saw it
17:04 Dan_D Just now
17:05 Dan_D I probs won't continue development, was just a test I thought worth posting
17:06 markveidemanis I have a strange question about the depencencies..
17:06 Dan_D I dunno what they are. None I think
17:06 markveidemanis Would it be possible to install them, and their dependencies, offline
17:06 markveidemanis I wont have internet in xubuntu
17:06 Dan_D What do you mean?
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17:07 markveidemanis $depends=
17:07 markveidemanis build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfreetype6-dev
17:07 rubenwardy You need the internet to download stuff
17:07 markveidemanis Would it be possible to automatically find their depends?
17:07 Dan_D Oh right
17:07 rubenwardy if you have them installed, then no internet
17:07 markveidemanis Or is that __all__
17:07 rubenwardy Have you installed them already?
17:07 markveidemanis No in on windows
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17:08 markveidemanis Its install offline or find a driver for my usb wifi adaptor
17:08 markveidemanis Which is a TP-LINK TL-WDN3200
17:08 markveidemanis I think it worked once but crasjed soon after
17:09 Dan_D In Blender, can you change the size of a shape,eg makie it 'shorter'on one side, without using scale?
17:10 rubenwardy You can use the scale tool, or input the values into the object tab
17:11 rubenwardy is that what you mean?
17:12 Dan_D I mean, if you use scale, when texturing,textures get stretched
17:14 rubenwardy I wish there was a program that displayed steam like pop ups when some one forum posts
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17:24 rubenwardy http://ubuntuone.com/3PbAAp2JsrWTFPtwd2mW4c !
17:24 rubenwardy (screenshot)
17:29 rubenwardy Bas080: https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/commi​t/076f91853cbbd8d33a26927d5c0caa7c9aa89289
17:34 thefamilygrog66 Since I make a lot of roads out of cloud -- they can't be griefed, for one reason -- I added this to the stairs mod: http://pastebin.com/zzdDC1kf
17:34 Calinou you could use maptools
17:34 Calinou maptools has unbreakable nodes
17:39 thefamilygrog66 Is that a mod, Calinou?
17:39 Calinou yes
17:39 Calinou made by me :3
17:40 thefamilygrog66 At any rate, I like the aesthetics of cloud roads; they're dream-like... :)
17:40 Calinou it's cool for making server-protected buildings or adventure maps
17:40 thefamilygrog66 Ahh, cool.
17:41 rubenwardy You can make force fields!
17:41 rubenwardy :P
17:41 Calinou clip, yes
17:41 rubenwardy or just transparent blocks that the player can not get through
17:41 rubenwardy Force field sounds better
17:41 rubenwardy :PPP
17:43 thefamilygrog66 I made a climbable, invisible node for my magic beanstalks, and it's proven to be pretty handy for making invisible elevators.
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18:02 NakedFury how is everyone?
18:05 rubenwardy Good thanks!
18:05 * rubenwardy is making a map editor for irrlicht
18:05 NakedFury map editor?
18:05 NakedFury for minetest or another game?
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18:16 zat Is there a way to make fonts bigger? to make them at least readable.
18:17 PilzAdam font_size in minetest.conf
18:18 zat thx
18:18 PilzAdam what is your screensize and resolution?
18:19 zat 15.9 inches, 1920x1200
18:20 PilzAdam why dont you use SI?
18:21 zat what is a SI
18:21 PilzAdam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI
18:22 zat Mainly for screen sizes are always measured in inches
18:22 zat (diagonally)
18:24 rubenwardy I answered that. "making a map editor for irrlicht)
18:24 PilzAdam everything should be measured in SI units or units based on them with a base of 10
18:25 rubenwardy NakedFury: I answered that. "making a map editor for irrlicht"
18:26 rubenwardy It will be a custom map loader code for a program to embed in their game, and load dynamic maps
18:26 zat PilzAdam: yes, everything should.
18:43 rubenwardy bye all
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18:50 zat PilzAdam: there?
18:50 PilzAdam where?
18:50 zat there
18:51 zat you know if Minetest can limit the CPU usage of flowing liquids?
18:51 PilzAdam ah, there
18:51 PilzAdam you can limit the max loop count
18:53 zat found it thx
18:54 zat how much you think is appropriate to not kill my cpu?
18:54 PilzAdam I dont know your CPU personally, so dunno
18:57 zat Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2212 @ 1.98Ghz
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19:04 Krock PilzAdam: My minetest is using 99% of CPU and the FPS always go down to 5 at digging... what canproblem)
19:04 Krock *what can i do to silve this? ( the server is not the problem)
19:04 Krock *solve
19:04 Jordach digging always drops fps, even for people with dedicated graphics
19:05 Krock hmm okay
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19:23 VanessaE that digging thing has been an issue since...shit...forever.
19:23 PilzAdam bye
19:28 zat # Update liquids every .. recommend for finite: 0.2
19:28 zat means? seconds?
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19:30 Calinou probably seconds
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19:33 zat probably......
19:35 Calinou Pelayo: PelayoI'm in linux, and it works really fast in my worst laptop with opengl 2.something, and slow in my good laptop with opengl 3.0
19:35 Calinou that has nothing to do
19:36 Calinou it's your graphics card, your desktop effects, your CPU that cause low FPS
19:36 Calinou or game settings (eg. too high view distance)
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19:47 Pelayo Calinou, I'm not sure about that, the settings are the same in both machines... the bad one's gpu is an intel gma 950 that can barely run the first portal, while the good one has a radeon hd that runs portal 2
19:47 Calinou which radeon HD?
19:47 Pelayo both are using a desktop that makes no use of acceleration (Mate)
19:47 Pelayo let's see..
19:47 Pelayo Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470] bus-ID 01:00.0
19:47 Pelayo X.Org 1.13.3 drivers ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution 1280x800@60.0hz
19:47 Pelayo GLX Renderer Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV620 GLX Version 3.0 Mesa 9.1.4 Direct Rendering Yes
19:47 Calinou woah, that's old and low end
19:47 Pelayo 3470
19:48 Calinou don't complain about low performance :P
19:48 Pelayo low end compared to what?
19:48 Pelayo :P
19:48 Pelayo it's the best gpu I have, but I'm getting better performance from an intel gpu O_o
19:48 Calinou 3470: HD 3000 series (very old), 470 (very low end), M (mobile = slower)
19:48 Calinou a dedicated card can be slower than an IGP
19:48 Pelayo but only on selected things like minetest
19:48 Pelayo strange
19:48 Calinou a GT610 will be slower than an iris pro 5200 :P
19:49 Pelayo it's about 4 years old I think
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19:58 jojoa1997 i love linux
19:59 jojoa1997 once i solved my computer problem this is great
19:59 sfan5 heh
19:59 VanessaE jojoa1997: https://github.com/VanessaE/display_blocks/co​mmit/c536e9ca4e5745795f03ef56a7851b2a2f2a0cb9
19:59 VanessaE er, https://github.com/jojoa1997/display_blocks/pull/1
19:59 VanessaE merge this, please
20:00 jojoa1997 ok
20:00 jojoa1997 i had meant to fix it but didnt know how then forgot
20:01 jojoa1997 though why did you chnage the interval from 1.00 to 2.00
20:01 VanessaE to reduce CPU a bit more
20:01 VanessaE running an abm every second is not always necessary, and the crystal shows up fast anyhow
20:01 jojoa1997 is one interval a second
20:03 jojoa1997 VanessaE: merged
20:04 VanessaE thanks
20:04 VanessaE it's already in service on the servers anyways, but this cuts CPU usage nicely.
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20:04 dafull97 Hey guys
20:05 jojoa1997 can anyone tell me how i could build hexchat in ubuntu/linux
20:05 VanessaE every time you set a node (or remove one), you cause a change to the mapblock, which forces the mesh generator to run, consuming CPU
20:05 VanessaE use xchat
20:05 VanessaE it IS hexchat
20:05 VanessaE hexchat == xchat for windows
20:06 jojoa1997 :(
20:06 * jojoa1997 wants hexchat
20:06 jojoa1997 whatever
20:08 Miner_48er https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-le​bihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable
20:10 jojoa1997 gtg
20:11 Calinou xchat exists on windows, but is pais
20:11 Calinou paid
20:11 Calinou er, they left
20:11 Calinou VanessaE: hexchat has a decent number of improvements, but is said to be less stable
20:12 Calinou it's not in *buntu repos, need to use PPA or source. :(
20:13 VanessaE ohhhhhh
20:14 VanessaE I thought one was simply the other, built for "that other" OS :)
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20:19 tinoesroho_ Uh, how do I combine textures? Like this? inventory_image = "clothing_shirts_inv_overlay_"..colour.​.".png"^"clothing_shirt_inv_white.png",
20:20 VanessaE almost
20:20 Calinou "texture_1.png^texture_on_top.png"
20:20 Calinou I think it's that
20:20 VanessaE "somename"..var.."^somename2"..var2
20:20 VanessaE and the like
20:20 VanessaE ^ goes inside the quoted strign
20:20 VanessaE string
20:20 tinoesroho_ Oh.
20:20 Calinou .. goes outside though
20:20 Calinou concatenation
20:20 VanessaE yes
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20:23 tinoesroho_ ... So, like: inventory_image = ""clothing_shirts_inv_overlay_"..colour.​.".png"^"clothing_shirt_inv_white.png"", or inventory_image = "clothing_shirts_inv_overlay_..colour​...png^clothing_shirt_inv_white.png", ?
20:24 thefamilygrog66 Cloud stairs/slabs = a fine addition to stairs mod, if you ask me.
20:26 tinoesroho_ 'twould be.
20:27 tinoesroho_ I was a bit sick of custom skins, so I figured a Clothing mod would be better. It's awesome for LAN play, and offers a ton of customization.
20:28 tinoesroho_ Now it's just a matter of fixing the overlay code, and voila! Hey presto! Capes, shirts, pants/shorts! Full on Club Penguin alternative train is pulling into the station. Choo choo1
20:28 Calinou that's what she said
20:29 VanessaE thefamilygrog66: white wool stairs.  gloopblocks.
20:29 VanessaE close enough?
20:30 thefamilygrog66 nope
20:30 thefamilygrog66 haha
20:30 VanessaE damn
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20:30 VanessaE I tried.
20:30 thefamilygrog66 I mentioned earlier that I like to make roads outta cloud, so stairs and slabs are a logical extension
20:30 thefamilygrog66 :)
20:30 VanessaE I could perhaps add cloud stairs to gloopblocks
20:30 tinoesroho_ ... Ah.
20:30 VanessaE maybe, possibly.
20:30 VanessaE with a suitable amount of prodding :
20:31 VanessaE :P
20:31 thefamilygrog66 I already added the code for 'em in my custom grog mod on my server
20:32 VanessaE heh ok
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20:48 Nocte You know what kind of server there should be for Minetest? A server where the main purpose is to try and troll others. :D /joke
20:50 roguejedi79 i'm going to try and set up a server tonight on ubuntu 12.04. any recommend mods i should include?
20:50 VanessaE everything :P
20:51 Nocte Everything cool...
20:51 VanessaE seriously though
20:51 Nocte Moreblocks, Moreores...
20:51 proller roguejedi79, liquid_finite=1
20:51 MinetestBot GIT: RealBadAngel commited to minetest/minetest: FIx wrong error message on invalid use of the formspec element image_button 5598f3c81b 2013-10-07T13:50:26-07:00 http://git.io/b1c6YQ
20:51 VanessaE recommended depends on the theme of your server.
20:51 Calinou roguejedi79: moreblocks, maptools
20:51 Nocte How can I see the user list in a server?
20:51 * Calinou gallops away
20:51 Calinou Nocte: /status -- tells you players and uptime in seconds
20:51 Calinou (also server MOTD)
20:52 roguejedi79 thanx
20:54 Nocte Lol, I suck at hunger games map.
20:54 Nocte I jumped into a water hole. :|
20:55 roguejedi79 general server. no theme at this point in time. something basic
20:57 Taoki Are inverted slabs still a separate node type in latest GIT? Or are 6D facedir rotations possible for nodeboxes now?
20:58 VanessaE taoki, didn't they push a fix for that already?
20:58 VanessaE Taoki: also, please join #minetest-technic
20:58 Taoki Ah, so they should be good now?
20:58 Taoki Ok, migh add it to autojoin
20:59 Calinou no, they use 6d facedir
20:59 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/com​mit/3804d8a078dc5474501463c8f331b91a0873cf3a
20:59 VanessaE so yes.
20:59 tinoesroho_ Oh, perfect. I think I broke my clothing mod.
20:59 Calinou moreblocks does that too I think
20:59 Calinou tinoesroho_: everyone will be naked :'(
21:00 tinoesroho_ Calinou: Might not be a bad thing. :-7
21:00 VanessaE Calinou: have you compared my 6d prediction code against default?  I'm curious which performs better/more predictably
21:00 Taoki Nice. Placing slabs in-world now. Glad they aren't going to be stored as another item
21:00 zat ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace...
21:00 zat wat!?
21:00 Calinou it's invisible to the end user
21:00 Calinou zat: happens if a mod attempts to place an unknown node for any reason
21:00 Calinou VanessaE: no? :p
21:01 zat Calinou: I have got an idea then
21:01 VanessaE Calinou: well I thought I'd ask :P
21:01 zat Calinou: I am flooded with dozens of those messages every five seconds
21:01 zat snow:ice it says
21:01 zat or snow:snow
21:02 Calinou which mods do you use?
21:02 thefamilygrog66 Bahaha: http://i.imgur.com/wRa4uMF.png
21:02 zat many, but it may be snow mod
21:02 thefamilygrog66 older computers, my ass!
21:02 VanessaE heh
21:02 Calinou thefamilygrog66: that's ugly
21:02 VanessaE you tried that in win98??
21:02 Calinou my eyes :'(
21:03 VanessaE no wait, that's 95 isn't it
21:03 thefamilygrog66 nope, 98
21:03 tinoesroho_ It doesn't work in 95.
21:03 thefamilygrog66 98 SE, even
21:03 tinoesroho_ It requires 2000, if I recall correctly.
21:03 thefamilygrog66 was trying version 0.3.1
21:03 thefamilygrog66 ahh
21:03 zat wat!
21:03 thefamilygrog66 I'll have to track down an iso
21:04 * thefamilygrog66 is having fun with virtualbox
21:04 thefamilygrog66 I'm guessing it won't run in windows 3.1 either then...
21:04 thefamilygrog66 :)
21:04 tinoesroho_ There might also be a difference in the kernel between '00 and XP; Smokin-guns offers a 2000-only build.
21:04 VanessaE lol
21:04 VanessaE I dare you - I triple-dog-dare you to compile and run minetest on win 3.1 :D
21:05 thefamilygrog66 things were so much simpler back then.
21:05 thefamilygrog66 haha
21:05 tinoesroho_ *creates a distro called win 3.1* *cd /minetest/* *make*
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21:06 john_minetest Hello everypony
21:06 tinoesroho_ Hey. How's the magic?
21:07 thefamilygrog66 Maybe Windows "Neptune" will run it: "Neptune was a test version of Windows 2000 for home users, being developed from 1999 till 2000."
21:07 tinoesroho_ ... I once had a Neptune ISO.
21:07 thefamilygrog66 ME likely won't
21:07 john_minetest I once used ME
21:07 thefamilygrog66 Windows ME, that is - I don't think it ran anything well!
21:07 tinoesroho_ Unfortunately, it was impossible to find software that ran on Neptune.
21:08 john_minetest ME worked for me. Borland Delphi ran great on it.
21:08 thefamilygrog66 http://osvirtual.net/en/windows-neptune/
21:08 tinoesroho_ I actually once installed it to a P4. Hilarity ensued. Neptune, I'm talking about.
21:08 thefamilygrog66 nice
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21:09 thefamilygrog66 I installed windows 2.1 on virtualbox earlier today - had never even seen that one before
21:09 jojoa1997 hi
21:09 thefamilygrog66 howdy jojoa1997
21:09 john_minetest Assuming that windows makes a build every day, neptune must have taken 14 years to develop :D
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21:10 tinoesroho_ Hey, jojoa.
21:10 tinoesroho_ I didn't know there was 2.1.
21:10 tinoesroho_ I thought it went 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.11 for Workgroups
21:11 thefamilygrog66 The first one I really used was 3.1
21:11 tinoesroho_ (NT 4 vs 98: flame war begins)
21:11 thefamilygrog66 NT was better for business stuff, hehe
21:11 tinoesroho_ I learned computers on 3.1, was upgraded to 98se, and eventually inheirited an XP.
21:12 tinoesroho_ Then came self-desctructing Vista, so I had to install Linux.
21:12 tinoesroho_ I lived through Mint 7 to 13, and- *derails thread*
21:12 thefamilygrog66 Here's a screenshot I took of windows 2.1 earlier today: http://i.imgur.com/2VkqOcR.png
21:13 john_minetest I learned on XP, my first own pc was a ME/openSUSE dualboot. I used openSUSE for playing Kgoldrunner.
21:13 thefamilygrog66 looks a lot like early mac
21:14 jojoa1997 VanessaE, haha i am running HExchat on ubuntu and you said there was none
21:14 jojoa1997 also hexchat has some differences than xchat
21:14 thefamilygrog66 you guys and your sexychats
21:14 Nocte Windows ME. Lol.
21:14 jojoa1997 -.-
21:14 Nocte I remember that.
21:15 Nocte We used to have an ooooold computer with that on. It was slow and it was marked as slow in Age of Empires II multiplayer.
21:15 tinoesroho_ Pfft. You're doing it wrong. Everybody knows AoEII runs best on a Pentium with Windows 95.
21:16 thefamilygrog66 386, ftw
21:16 tinoesroho_ I ran AoE2 on Windows 98 (100 mhz pentium) with just 16mb of ram.
21:16 tinoesroho_ >.< Swapfile saw usage like nobody's business.
21:16 Nocte It showed 'Turtle' icon on the player name whoever played on ME computer. Hehe.
21:17 thefamilygrog66 gave that hard drive a real workout
21:17 tinoesroho_ Hard to believe that it would have worked just fine in 32mb.
21:17 tinoesroho_ Today, you'd be hard pressed to get a modern game in under a gig.
21:18 Nocte I actually loved Age of Empires II. ;)
21:18 tinoesroho_ I was an AoE1 fanboy. 10 years later, I went back to play it, and it's uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugly as heck.
21:18 tinoesroho_ I don't know how I even played it.
21:19 tinoesroho_ These days I play 0 AD when I need my RTS fix.
21:19 Nocte AoEII, you can still play it and not hate the graphics.
21:19 tinoesroho_ With the widescreen patch, it's rather playable.
21:19 Nocte Says the person who likes AscII roguelikes. :(
21:19 tinoesroho_ AoeII I'm talking about.
21:19 Nocte Widescreen patch?
21:20 tinoesroho_ Yup.
21:20 Nocte You are doing it wrong.
21:20 tinoesroho_ Why shell out fourteen bucks on Steam when there's an open source patch for that?
21:20 tinoesroho_ Also, you're a nethack terminal type?
21:21 Menche nethack is awesome
21:21 VanessaE jojoa1997: I didn't say there wasn't one, I said xchat is what you'd normally use in linux.
21:21 Nocte Nethack is cool.
21:21 Nocte I just can't get past Dungeon Level 5. :|
21:21 * Menche has never won a nethack game :(
21:22 tinoesroho_ Level 8 for me.
21:22 Menche i hit both the Oracle and Minetown in my best game
21:22 tinoesroho_ I usually play as an archaeologist.
21:22 Menche never gotten further
21:22 Menche isn't that a harder role?
21:22 tinoesroho_ Healer's are handy, though, because you never run out of food, infinite meatballs, and-
21:22 tinoesroho_ Not when you tin everything.
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21:23 Menche i do best with barbarians and samurai
21:23 Nocte Any other Nethack style games with more modern style skill based stuff?
21:23 tinoesroho_ I used to play Valkryie until I starved to death all the time.
21:23 Nocte Like: Each level earn Skill Points to spend on stuff.
21:23 tinoesroho_ On the PSP, Valhalla Knights is now free.
21:23 Menche zapm?
21:23 Menche it's a sci-fi roguelike
21:24 Menche where you distribute earned skill points
21:24 zat Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "snow:ice"
21:24 Nocte Instead of dungeons you are dungeon crawling in spaceships? ;)
21:24 tinoesroho_ For consoles, consider Gladiator Begins. Ten bucks on the PSP/Vita. Nothing but endless battles.
21:24 zat still being flooded by those errors :S
21:25 Nocte Also on PC with AscII graphics would be the best...
21:26 tinoesroho_ Here I was going to suggest Torchlight 2...
21:26 thefamilygrog66 damn, can't get neptune to work in virtualbox
21:27 thefamilygrog66 aquamarine screen of death
21:27 thefamilygrog66 oh wait, there it is
21:27 thefamilygrog66 haha
21:27 Nocte Well, any dungeon crawlers on: PS1, PS2, Xbox360 btw? :p
21:27 Nocte (I can play PS1 games with PS2 if I just get a memory card for it.)
21:28 tinoesroho_ Torchlight 1 is 360.
21:28 john_minetest there is another CLI game but can't recall the name. You have to kill a evil thing before it kills you.
21:28 thefamilygrog66 ps1 ftw
21:28 john_minetest Maybe esr has written parts of the code but I'm not sure
21:28 khonkhortisan wumpus
21:28 Nocte What was the best "Not Square Enix." RPG on PS1? :p
21:28 Nocte Or whatever.
21:28 Nocte Soft.
21:28 Nocte Etc.
21:30 thefamilygrog66 vagrant story?
21:30 thefamilygrog66 or was that squaresoft?
21:30 Nocte I think it was.
21:30 thefamilygrog66 hmm
21:30 thefamilygrog66 good game, anyway
21:31 john_minetest hah, got the name
21:31 john_minetest http://www.catb.org/~esr/wumpus/
21:31 john_minetest It was wumpus
21:31 tinoesroho_ Ki-
21:32 john_minetest lol, totally focused on searching and didn't see that khonkhortisan wrote the answer
21:32 khonkhortisan I always wasted my arrows then ran around and got eaten
21:32 Nocte Arrows? Arrows are for cowards!
21:32 Nocte Wield an axe and charge in!
21:32 Nocte >:D
21:33 khonkhortisan games with infinite arrows are also for cowards
21:33 khonkhortisan I find I live longer when ranged
21:33 Menche in nethack i do fairly well with rangers
21:33 Nocte Usually my #1 reason I die a lot in FPS games because I don't notice I used all the ammo.
21:34 Nocte "Why is it not shooting?" *shot* :|
21:34 Menche but the arrows always break >:(
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21:37 thefamilygrog66 C:\Minetest\bin\minetest.exe is not a valid Win32 application.
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21:37 Menche you put minetest in your root?
21:38 thefamilygrog66 Nope, the installer did
21:38 thefamilygrog66 not really my root, either - root of virtual neptune machine
21:38 thefamilygrog66 testing the whole "can run on older machines" claim
21:38 thefamilygrog66 :)
21:39 Menche neptune?
21:39 thefamilygrog66 windows 2000 home edition, sorta
21:40 thefamilygrog66 (note: it doesn't run on windows 98 either, hahaha)
21:40 Menche my 10 year old laptop runs it at about 7-10 fps
21:40 thefamilygrog66 windows xp?
21:40 Menche arch linux
21:40 thefamilygrog66 ahh
21:40 thefamilygrog66 I'm going to try to install a REALLY early version
21:40 Menche of minetest?
21:41 Menche the oldest minetest i've built is the initial commit on the bitbucket mercurial repo
21:41 Menche that version's signs are better than the ones we have now >:(
21:44 thefamilygrog66 which version is that, Menche?
21:45 Menche idk, the first commit on the old mercurial repo
21:45 Menche water is solid and can be picked up
21:45 Menche the inventory bar is on the side
21:46 Menche you can scroll through everything in your inventory in your hotbar without moving stuff around
21:46 thefamilygrog66 cool
21:47 Menche the inventory takes a bit of getting used to, and i don't think there's chat (i haven't found it anyway)
21:47 thefamilygrog66 I just tried 0.0.1 on windows 2000, and it's giving me a 0xc0000135 failed to initialize properly error
21:47 thefamilygrog66 ahh, .net framework
21:49 Menche that version was from 2010-11-26
21:49 Menche oldest source release i could find
21:51 john_minetest Menche: Archlinux! Cool!
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21:53 Peacock greetings pheasants
21:54 thefamilygrog66 cluck
21:54 * Peacock gobbles
21:55 Peacock i didn't realize how quickly christmas was approaching - i only took down the tree last May :S
21:56 thefamilygrog66 haha, mine was on the lawn until
21:56 thefamilygrog66 April
21:56 Peacock (we had family over last weekend and they started talking about christmas plans) lol
21:56 thefamilygrog66 oops
21:56 Peacock naw im talking about indoor trees :P after december i simply put it in the spare room lol
21:57 thefamilygrog66 I'm talking about indoor trees as well, man - after new year's I just threw it off the deck into the snow
21:57 thefamilygrog66 granted, I lived in the deep woods at the time
21:57 Peacock good news though - my latest electric was much lower than i thought, so I should be able to power my tree this year XD
21:57 thefamilygrog66 nice
21:57 Peacock i have one of those rubbermaid containers full of circuits lol
21:57 * thefamilygrog66 just installed ie6
21:58 Peacock ie6? i hope your zealot-radar is on :P
21:58 thefamilygrog66 I'm trying to get minetest to run on a windows 2000 vm
21:58 thefamilygrog66 haha
21:58 Peacock christ compels you to adhere to the four freedoms :P
21:59 thefamilygrog66 free your mind and your ass will follow
21:59 thefamilygrog66 pretty sure I've infected this virtual machine already :)
21:59 thefamilygrog66 whoops
22:00 Peacock you know what they say, at least there's something to break on windows, linux has that feature built-in XD
22:00 thefamilygrog66 hehe
22:01 Peacock though for running minetest its better off on linux
22:02 thefamilygrog66 except when it isn't
22:03 Peacock well im going on the principle that it was designed by ppl running linux to run on linux lol
22:04 thefamilygrog66 that said, it's amazing how much incompatibility there is between the various versions of 0.4.7...
22:06 zat Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "snow:ice"
22:06 zat still being flooded by those errors :S
22:08 VanessaE default:ice
22:08 VanessaE don't use the snow mod unless you need it.
22:08 VanessaE minetest has its own nodes for thaty
22:08 VanessaE -y
22:10 thefamilygrog66 minetest should go back to the inventory on the left side
22:10 * thefamilygrog66 is playing 0.0.1
22:10 Menche i liked how you could scroll the hotbar through the entire inventory
22:10 thefamilygrog66 yeah, that's handy/less awkward for sure
22:11 Menche but Minecraft has it on the bottom, so we must copy that >:(
22:11 thefamilygrog66 must. copy. minecraft.
22:12 Menche would it be possible to make the old side-bar inventory in the current version in pure lua? does the hud api support moving the hotbar around like that?
22:12 ShadowNinja Yes, it does, but I don't think it supports catching scroll events.
22:15 thefamilygrog66 it would likely be a lot slower than 0.0.1 as well, haha
22:15 thefamilygrog66 progress!
22:15 Menche yeah
22:15 * Menche likes building water houses on early versions of minetest
22:17 thefamilygrog66 Gross, someone posted krokodil photos on fb - now I don't want to eat supper... o_O
22:17 thefamilygrog66 there's yer zombie apocalypse right there
22:18 Menche cuz injecting a substance containing gasoline or whatever into yourself is coool
22:19 thefamilygrog66 so gross
22:19 Menche some people...
22:21 zat VanessaE: under what circumstances can the snow mod be “needed”?
22:22 zat (you said not to use it unless I need it)
22:22 VanessaE zat: if you explicitly want it eg. for its trees or something
22:22 VanessaE otherwise use the default nodes
22:23 zat trees?
22:24 zat snow trees lol
22:24 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Add Czech language 5f3806c93c 2013-10-07T15:23:35-07:00 http://git.io/ZPpRBA
22:25 thefamilygrog66 bye for now folks
22:27 zat VanessaE: so the mod is not compatible with the built in snow feature.
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22:28 VanessaE no it's not that
22:29 VanessaE it's just that snow mod has its own nodes and has not yet adapted to use the defaults.
22:29 VanessaE that will happen at the next release of snow mod, which is waiting for 0.4.8 to come out
22:30 john_minetest snow:
22:30 john_minetest does it still stop when you're inside?
22:30 VanessaE wrong mod I think
22:30 john_minetest I think it is quite strange if you are inside and it suddenly stops snowing
22:30 zat just awesome... disabled the snow mod and now half of the mountains are unknown blocks.
22:30 VanessaE he's talking about SPlizard's snow mod, not the weather mod
22:30 john_minetest oh, that one
22:31 zat VanessaE: she*
22:31 VanessaE zat: minetest.register_alias("snow:snow", "default:snow") et al.
22:31 VanessaE she, sorry
22:31 zat what with that line?
22:31 VanessaE that line will equate the snow mod's snow node to the default one
22:32 VanessaE you'll want to do the same with the other nodes you're using from snow mod
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22:32 VanessaE e.g. ice, the tree nodes, etc.
22:32 zat so I just need to add those lines to the mod code?
22:32 VanessaE alias them to something you can be sure you will always have
22:32 VanessaE make some kind of compatibility mod and put that line and others like it.
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22:37 zat trying
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22:39 zat no VanessaE, those alias wont make the messages stop
22:39 kahrl zat: did you put the alias into the snow mod?
22:40 zat it was in a different mod~
22:40 zat one I made to introduce the aliases
22:42 VanessaE wait, what messages?
22:42 VanessaE the CONTENT_IGNORE one?
22:42 VanessaE you're trying to add the wrong node.  use default:snow et al.
22:43 VanessaE not snow:snow
22:44 zat What makes you think I used snow:snow?
22:44 VanessaE because you said you had the snow mod installed.  I assumed you were using its nodes.
22:44 VanessaE and that removing it rendered half of your landscape as unknown nodes.
22:45 zat it was long before you suggested me the aliases
22:46 zat should I keep the snow mod on or not?
22:46 Peacock apple pie
22:47 VanessaE what's the purpose of the snow mod in your case?
22:47 zat having..... snow
22:47 zat do you know how I get rid of those error messages?
22:47 VanessaE I mean, do you need the active mapgen-based landscape code from it, or just the nodes?
22:47 zat nodes I guess
22:47 zat I generated the map with the mod on
22:48 VanessaE ok
22:48 Menche aliases should work if you remove it
22:48 VanessaE in that case ditch the snow mod, add those aliases, and use the default nodes in your new code.
22:48 VanessaE that's how to get rid of those errors.
22:51 zat now the same errors, this time mentioning the default: nodes.
22:53 zat Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:ice" at ...
22:53 zat dozens, with different coordinates
22:53 Menche try to /give yourself ice, to see if you're version has it
22:53 Menche *your
22:54 zat it is unknown
22:55 zat though default:ice gives me ice
22:55 zat semi transparent one
22:59 zat now I am flooded with messages and half of the mountains turned into flowing water
23:00 VanessaE damn
23:00 VanessaE well in that case you either have to use the snow mod, or you have to update your minetest.
23:00 zat update to what version'
23:00 Menche it melts?
23:01 zat I compiled from the last commit today
23:01 zat It probably melted Menche
23:01 Menche and minetest_game is the latest too?
23:02 zat both
23:04 VanessaE if minetest_game is fully up-to-date from git, you have those nodes.
23:04 VanessaE if you don't, it ain't :)
23:04 VanessaE maybe the node names are wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're right.
23:04 zat I have the nodes
23:04 VanessaE ok good
23:04 zat still the messages keep appearing
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23:05 NakedFury split the mod into small parts and check them all 1 at a time
23:06 twoelk joined #minetest
23:07 zat sure
23:08 NakedFury it may take time but it will help to eventually find the problem
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23:16 proller zat, weather=1 ?
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23:17 stormchaser3000 hi
23:24 stormchaser3000 is anyone on
23:25 NakedFury yes
23:25 VanessaE hi
23:25 stormchaser3000 hi
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23:48 zat proller: weather what for
23:48 zat those: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:ice"
23:48 zat are driving me crazy
23:49 zat I see twenty of those errors for every one player action,  in the logs
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23:50 proller do you have weather=1  in config?
23:57 zat ye I have proller
23:57 zat is it bad?
23:58 proller its good, but needs correct minetest_game / mods

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