Time Nick Message 00:01 JesseH The latest is 0.4.7 right? 00:01 FreeFull The latest is git that claims to be 0.4.7 but is newer AFAIK 00:03 Menche the latest stable is 0.4.7 00:03 Menche it's sort of old, i use the latest dev from git 00:03 FreeFull Maybe the git was changed to not claim it is 0.4.7 anymore 00:04 Menche i think it was 00:04 Exio4 the version is 0.4.7-numbers 00:04 Menche anyway, i've been setting VERSION_EXTRA so i have a different version number for the git version 00:04 Menche i think it does that automatically now 00:10 VanessaE off to bed. bbl 00:12 OldCoder c u 00:15 OldCoder 00:15 OldCoder I am looking for people to play on updated worlds and assist with them 00:15 OldCoder Very fast server 00:15 OldCoder Loads of CPUs and RAM 00:15 OldCoder But you must help 00:15 OldCoder May get ownership of worlds 00:15 OldCoder Anybody? 00:15 OldCoder 00:17 * NekoGloop bites ShadowBot 00:17 OldCoder NekoGloop, Hi 00:17 OldCoder Trying to bring worlds back 00:17 OldCoder There does not seem to be much interest 00:17 NekoGloop Good for you 00:17 OldCoder Oh well 00:17 OldCoder But server is very powerful 00:19 OldCoder Down to just 4 mods before Zegaton test: pulverize_all spawn teleporters xdoors2 00:19 OldCoder Can anybody at all comment on these mods? 00:19 * OldCoder bbs 00:25 OldCoder Back 00:25 OldCoder Nobody? 00:26 Naked gonna need to download latest client 00:26 OldCoder Hm? 00:26 OldCoder k 00:27 * OldCoder is offering a powerful server and worlds... but apparently few takers 00:27 Naked I will try them 00:27 OldCoder Ah! 00:27 OldCoder t y 00:28 OldCoder I don't suppose you know who made the "spawn" mod or where to get it? 00:28 Naked no 00:28 OldCoder t y 00:28 OldCoder Nor pulverize all 00:28 OldCoder All right 00:29 Naked same server address as before? 00:30 Naked trying minetest.org 30000 00:33 OldCoder Not yet 00:33 OldCoder The same worlds are running on an old server 00:33 OldCoder I have updated Zegaton 00:33 OldCoder and will try to restart it in the next hour 00:33 OldCoder If the world can be saved and updated 00:34 Naked I found a set spawn mod by sdzen from 8-11-2013 00:34 OldCoder The others will follow 00:34 OldCoder Those who help 00:34 OldCoder Get the worlds 00:34 OldCoder Oh? 00:34 Naked https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6890 00:34 OldCoder R 00:34 OldCoder I think Zegaton's spawn is by sfan5 00:34 OldCoder But one step at a time 00:34 Naked looking for more just in case 00:34 OldCoder Thank you! 00:35 Shurtugal Compiling takes a long time- i made myself a tv dinner :) 00:37 Naked Mods: Sethome by xyz, Home GUI by cornernot. both are 2012 mods dont know if they will work without trouble in newest version 00:37 zat https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6890 ← what for? 00:38 zat would like to know before downloading 00:38 Naked thats it from searching spawn on the forums Old mods, modding, and released mods pages 00:38 Menche what does the spawn mod do? 00:40 Naked brb 00:40 Shurtugal Thank you so much mench, compiling worked 00:41 Shurtugal bye ^-^ 00:53 shurtugal Taking forever to connect to a server :( says stuck on "media..." 00:53 JesseH Are minetest mods forced to use lgpl 00:54 shurtugal The bar is actually moving now :| 01:04 khonkhortisan mods can choose their licences 01:04 khonkhortisan or none at all if you don't want it to be "official" 01:08 JesseH What are the biggest problems modders have? 01:08 * JesseH wishes to make peoples lives easier 02:14 dante123 hi all, got dev version installed.....wanting to create a "continents" map.....do I need worldedit mod for this?? 02:23 dante123 is this syntax right? load_mod_worldedit = true 02:26 Menche if the mod is named "worldedit" that's right. I think worldedit is a modpack composed of many submods though 02:27 dante123 do i just move the worldedit folder to the mods folder or do i open it and then move its contents 02:27 dante123 cause right now it doesn seem to be finding the mod (i moved the folders contents to mod folder...but not the main folder itself) 02:28 Menche to use it as a modpack, just copy the entire folder to mods/ 02:29 Menche just install it and run minetest; if it finds it, it will add load_mod_whatever to the world.mt set to false. just close minetest and set them all to true. 02:29 dante123 MineTest-WorldEdit-1.0 is the name of the folder...just move the whole thing into mods folder right? 02:30 Menche yeah, if it contains several sub-folders and a file named "modpack.txt" 02:31 dante123 it does have a file named modpack, but it still isn't finding it....there is a mod tab do I use that 02:32 dante123 still not showing up 02:32 dante123 hmmm 02:33 dante123 when I made the world I made it singlenode,....could that be part of the problem 02:33 dante123 what does v6, v7, singlenode, indev, math actually mean? 02:36 Menche those are different c++ mapgens 02:36 Menche if you set it to singlenode, your world will be empty. that means only 1 type of node, by default just air. 02:37 Menche unless you have some mapgen done in lua, of course, which is what singlenode was made for. 02:38 Menche indev is probably the best general-purpose mapgen. it's basically v6 with a few more features. v7 isn't complete yet and math is a crazy abstract mapgen. 02:44 Naked v7 s only generating stone 02:49 Menche you can define biomes for v7 in lua, but nobody wants to do that by default 02:49 Naked Ill give it a try 02:51 Naked is there a doc on how to do that in v7? 02:52 Menche i don't think so 02:52 Menche Pilztest has biome definitions 02:52 Menche that's what i looked at as a reference 02:55 Naked where di you find the? 02:55 Naked them 03:13 Naked https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7272&p=2 03:13 Naked love the menu mockups 03:26 NekoGloop public nudity is indecent 03:26 NekoGloop *says the cat* 04:27 GNADev|zRokh hi 04:28 GNADev|zRokh i'm making a website where you can order websites (HTML, PHP and CSS) from :D 04:43 GNADev|zRokh bye biggums 06:12 JesseH Can anyone provide feedback on this? https://github.com/jessehorne/modhelp What else does it need to be really useful, or could it become useful in the first place? 07:48 Krock hello people 07:49 Calinou hi 08:44 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Habitat Day! :-D 08:44 Jordach ...is that a scripe 08:44 Jordach script* 08:46 VanessaE hi all 08:51 JamesTait Jordach, no, but I should script it. 08:51 * JesseH waves 08:52 JamesTait But if I did, *I* wouldn't know what day I should be celebrating. ;) 08:52 VanessaE haha 09:21 Hunterz trying sea mod, but even if enable noairblock, still around sea plants are air :( 09:21 Hunterz like plant are in the air node 10:39 Exio4 hi 10:54 jojoa1997 Thanks a lot for a huge headache and scare Ubuntu users 10:55 jojoa1997 Can anyone help me with some Linux/windows stuff on dual boot. I can't find anything online 10:56 Hunterz what problem have you? 10:57 jojoa1997 Well after 6 hours total of researching I found out that if I install Ubuntu onto an external hard disk it will move grub onto that disk and the one on the computer is gone. Ubuntu is on the external and windows internal. How would I get windows to work without having to connect the external hdd 10:58 jojoa1997 Also I have gotten to grub by starting PC with HDD but had to leave before going into any os 11:00 Hunterz is in internal disk boot flag? 11:00 jojoa1997 What 11:00 Hunterz boot flag for win partition 11:00 jojoa1997 I installed ubuntu via install ubutnu on the desktop after pressing try ubuntu 11:01 jojoa1997 Yes 11:01 Hunterz dont know ubuntu 11:01 jojoa1997 But both OS's are on separate diska 11:01 Hunterz just take windows dvd a try to repair booting of this os 11:02 jojoa1997 Yeah tried that don't work 11:02 jojoa1997 Do I have to install grub on the internal disk? 11:02 Hunterz think no 11:03 Hunterz try search what ubuntu installer overwrite on internal disk 11:04 Hunterz maybe boot sector or something 11:05 jojoa1997 Well I will find out later somehow gtg 11:23 Pelayo is there a parameter or something for forcing minetest to run under opengl 1.0 or 2.0 or something? 11:27 Jordach nope 11:28 Jordach if you are on windows with OpenGL 1.x, you should be using Direct3D8/9, if you are on windows with OpenGL 2.1.x you should be using OpenGL 11:29 Pelayo I'm in linux, and it works really fast in my worst laptop with opengl 2.something, and slow in my good laptop with opengl 3.0 11:38 GNADev|zRokh hi! 11:38 GNADev|zRokh (^.^) 11:45 Jordach don't you just fucking love MIT? http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2013/simple-scheme-for-self-assembling-robots-1004.html 11:47 GNADev|zRokh woah :D 11:47 GNADev|zRokh nice :D 11:50 * GNADev|zRokh loves Led Zeppelin - The Ocean 11:58 dafull97 Hey guys 11:58 JesseH Jordach, I love MIT license yes :P 12:00 mahomet self assembling robots?! 12:00 mahomet they'll colonise us! 12:04 Jordach I have seen the future; and it is awesome 12:06 * JesseH personally can't wait for robots to take over manual labor and for libertarian socialism to take over :P 12:06 JesseH wont take too long 12:08 * dafull97 is bored in school already 12:09 JesseH dafull97, what grade ya in 12:09 Jordach dafull97, https://news.google.com 12:16 GNADev|zRokh OMFG!!!!! i was on the last level of D-Pad Hero 2 and i wanted to click ALT+Enter but clicked ALT+Delete... :( and i didnt save :( 12:18 JesseH :( 12:18 JesseH I'm playing a song on my keyboard now, inspired by your sad story. 12:18 JesseH I call it "life is full of sadness" 12:19 GNADev|zRokh :D 12:19 JesseH ^_^ 12:20 JesseH Jordach, Ill love MIT when they let me go there for free 12:21 GNADev|zRokh :D 12:22 GNADev|zRokh well, JesseH, get a full scholarship 12:22 GNADev|zRokh then i think you can... 12:22 JesseH I don't believe college life is for me 12:22 JesseH Who knows, that could change 12:22 JesseH But they don't teach you world domination in college 12:22 JesseH (that i know of) 12:24 GNADev|zRokh do you really think they would advertise that? like "Hey you! Want to be the dictator of the world? Study at that top-secret cave in area 51 12:24 JesseH There are caves in government facilities? Bad ass 12:24 VanessaE sure, in old bomed-out locales ;)) 12:24 VanessaE bombed-out* 12:25 JesseH My goal is to not run the world, as dictator 12:25 GNADev|zRokh LOL, i haven't ever been to the US and yet i know a bit about it :D 12:25 JesseH I want to run the world, secretly, to improve it 12:26 JesseH 1.) we need to unite all the people under one nation 12:26 JesseH 2.) get a high level of education out to all of the world 12:26 JesseH (all 12:26 JesseH ) 12:26 JesseH basic income, wealth spreading etc 12:26 VanessaE dream on 12:26 JesseH Then, space colonization 12:27 JesseH meanwhile, let the robots do all of our labor 12:27 VanessaE never gonna happen, not without at least another couple of world wars 12:27 JesseH No one said it was going to be easy. 12:27 GNADev|zRokh WWIII, WWIV, GTAV etc... 12:27 JesseH A lot of stupid people are going to have to die off before it can happen :P 12:27 JesseH Not stupid as in uneducated, but stupid as in, greedy educated 12:28 JesseH Oh and those radical religious types 12:28 JesseH The ones that still stone people ._. 12:28 GNADev|zRokh OMFG, i did a song in D-Pad Hero II and ended up with MAX HEALTH!!! YAYUH!!! :D 12:28 VanessaE JesseH: right 12:29 JesseH but until then ill write lua codes and just pretend i rule the world :P 12:29 VanessaE heh 12:29 GNADev|zRokh well, you rule as many worlds as there are in your worlds folder :P 12:30 JesseH Yes indeed 12:30 JesseH can someone look at github.com/jessehorne/modhelp and see if i can improve that to be more useful 12:33 GNADev|zRokh omg, i finished the song but i got no achievements :/ 12:35 JesseH nes lova 12:35 GNADev|zRokh yes, nes, but whats lova? 12:35 JesseH lover 12:35 JesseH :P 12:35 GNADev|zRokh oh :D 12:35 GNADev|zRokh nah dood 12:35 GNADev|zRokh i'm a retro lover :P 12:35 GNADev|zRokh i LOVE classic games 12:36 dafull97 JesseH, 11th 12:36 GNADev|zRokh Zelda (SNES), SMB (NES/SNES), Quake (DOS) :P 12:37 JesseH dafull97, I was in 11th once :D 12:38 JesseH Well, I said I was. It turns out the school system secretly had me in 10th 12:38 JesseH End of year, I'm like "finally 12th grade", then they tell me nope you're going to 11th 12:38 GNADev|zRokh :D 12:38 GNADev|zRokh LOL :D 12:38 JesseH it wasnt funny at the time :( 12:38 GNADev|zRokh well, im in the 8th grade :D 12:39 JesseH oh lord 12:39 JesseH good times 12:39 GNADev|zRokh :D 12:39 JesseH <3 middle school man 12:39 JesseH best years of my life 12:39 GNADev|zRokh ikr :D 12:39 GNADev|zRokh no, not rlly.. 12:39 JesseH highschool, thanks to the shitty school system changes, were my worst 12:39 GNADev|zRokh lol :D 12:40 JesseH How to succeed in highschool: 1.) have sexual intercourse with lots of women 12:40 JesseH 2.) try not to let the teachers dumb you down 12:40 JesseH 3.) learn a lot, dont be a dick etc etc 12:40 * GNADev|zRokh only has ONE. MORE. ACHIEVEMENT. 12:40 JesseH ~! 12:40 JesseH good luck GNA dev zrokh 12:40 GNADev|zRokh well, what if i told you that im the best in my class at English and math :D 12:40 GNADev|zRokh thanks :D 12:41 GNADev|zRokh JesseH, two words... State Saved! 12:41 JesseH then I would say good job 12:41 GNADev|zRokh oh, and also best at Programming :D 12:41 JesseH I assume no one else programs in your school? :P 12:42 JesseH Thats how it was in mine 12:42 GNADev|zRokh dunz know dood 12:42 GNADev|zRokh wait... you program? 12:42 JesseH O_o 12:42 JesseH Do I code? O_o 12:42 JesseH I am unsure 12:42 JesseH I think its what i do 12:42 JesseH could be wrong 12:42 VanessaE why do I sense a "do you even lift?" reference here? 12:42 GNADev|zRokh dunz == don't and dood == dude (thats how the Baccas speak)\ 12:42 JesseH VanessaE, o behave 12:43 VanessaE no :P 12:43 GNADev|zRokh xD 12:43 VanessaE :) 12:43 JesseH austin powers reference much? :P 12:43 GNADev|zRokh yeah :D 12:43 * JesseH likes GNADev|zRokh 12:43 GNADev|zRokh i was jsut going to say that :D 12:43 * GNADev|zRokh is not gay 12:43 JesseH and i dont like little boys ._. 12:44 GNADev|zRokh (T_T) 12:44 * JesseH likes VanessaE two 12:44 GNADev|zRokh too** 12:44 * JesseH is just derpin around 12:44 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, what languages do you know 12:44 JesseH or use 12:45 GNADev|zRokh ugh... actual languages or do programming languages also count? 12:45 JesseH programming languages 12:45 JesseH of course 12:45 VanessaE well I'm very likable I think :) 12:45 JesseH you're wrong >:( 12:45 JesseH I jk you're right 12:46 GNADev|zRokh well, Java, PHP (like 25%), (when also counting in markup languages and similar stuff then) HTML, CSS, Python, Python3 12:46 VanessaE :O 12:46 VanessaE :'( 12:46 GNADev|zRokh English, Russian, Estonian 12:46 GNADev|zRokh btw, JesseH, it's >:O 12:46 GNADev|zRokh :D 12:46 JesseH :P 12:46 JesseH Java will land you a job easily 12:46 GNADev|zRokh really? 12:46 JesseH So yeah if you like that sort of thing, stick with it 12:47 GNADev|zRokh i dont get it why do people hate Java? 12:47 JesseH Don't listen to them, most of them don't know what they are talking about 12:47 GNADev|zRokh !* 12:47 GNADev|zRokh yeah 12:47 JesseH and the ones that do, are not relevant to your needs 12:47 GNADev|zRokh yeah :D 12:48 JesseH If you like it, you have a upper hand. I know a lot of java devs that hate it but still have to use it XD 12:48 GNADev|zRokh an upper hand** 12:48 GNADev|zRokh LOL :D 12:48 GNADev|zRokh well, i think that Java is easy and understandable 12:48 JesseH i learned basic before I learned english, so my english is bad 12:48 GNADev|zRokh LOL :D 12:49 GNADev|zRokh yeah, GREAT example...... 12:49 GNADev|zRokh btw, one does not learn Basic before English... -_- 12:49 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, just dont build any games with it and youll be fine 12:49 dafull97 JesseH, ohh, how old are you? 12:49 GNADev|zRokh <:O 12:49 GNADev|zRokh but im making a game... for a school project 12:49 JesseH Nope, I learned how to do simple BASIC things before I fully understood english :P 12:49 GNADev|zRokh <:/ 12:50 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, okay but keep it there. :P 12:50 GNADev|zRokh ok :D 12:50 JesseH dafull97, I am infinite 12:50 GNADev|zRokh rlly? that must be pretty old... well, im ageless :D 12:50 JesseH I don't like revealing my age. 12:51 dafull97 JesseH, haha funny! 12:51 dafull97 JesseH, why not? 12:51 JesseH Lets not refer to each other by how ages, lets refer to each other by our skill level. 12:51 JesseH I am a beginner, with a beginners mind. 12:51 JesseH dafull97, secret reasons 12:51 GNADev|zRokh i am a 14 year old with a 24 year olds brain :P 12:52 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, lets hope not 12:52 GNADev|zRokh yet pretty immature :D 12:52 GNADev|zRokh why? 12:52 JesseH Go ahead and say that you are 11 12:52 GNADev|zRokh no, i really am 14... >:O 12:52 JesseH Because, if you know that much at 11, imagine what youll know when you are 24 12:53 GNADev|zRokh well, i am the same height as an 11 year old...... 12:53 GNADev|zRokh xD 12:53 JesseH I understand what you mean 12:53 JesseH I feel like I am speaking with my past self 12:53 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, I have some advice to give you. 12:53 * GNADev|zRokh got the last achievement 12:53 GNADev|zRokh ok, let it rip :D 12:53 VanessaE I feel like I'm managing a nursery school here.. 12:53 JesseH Take school fucking seriously 12:54 GNADev|zRokh i am dood :D 12:54 JesseH okay, thats it :P 12:54 JesseH oh and code everyday 12:54 JesseH dont aim for a 9-5 12:54 JesseH aim to own 5-9 companies 12:54 JesseH or more 12:54 JesseH :P 12:54 JesseH VanessaE, You are, isnt it great? 12:54 VanessaE no :P 12:54 GNADev|zRokh 1. i haven't missed a single lesson at school this quarter, i haven't gotten any F's this quarter and i haven't gotten to any trouble this quarter 12:55 JesseH So much better than myself GNADev|zRokh you really should be proud 12:55 GNADev|zRokh JesseH: well, i am making a small group-company :D GNADev :D 12:55 VanessaE yeah but this is only the first quarter isn't it 12:55 VanessaE ? 12:55 GNADev|zRokh rlly? 12:55 GNADev|zRokh yeah.... 12:55 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, good shit, keep that attitude 12:55 GNADev|zRokh last year i was like the devil itself :D 12:55 JesseH please do good in school :P 12:55 GNADev|zRokh nah, dood, its dat guuuuuud shit :D 12:56 * JesseH feels like he is referring to cannabis 12:56 GNADev|zRokh nah 12:56 JesseH oh, good ._. 12:56 GNADev|zRokh thats how the baccas say it! 12:56 JesseH The baccas? 12:56 JesseH Is that like saying "niqqa" in america? 12:56 GNADev|zRokh i have smoked (cigarettes) but i quit like 3 years ago :D 12:56 GNADev|zRokh no 12:56 GNADev|zRokh bacca == Human chewbacca :D 12:57 GNADev|zRokh google ASFJerome :D 12:57 JesseH ._. 12:57 JesseH Thats another tip 12:57 * GNADev|zRokh has 6/6 D-Pad Pieces! 12:57 JesseH Do not ever pick up a cigarette 12:57 GNADev|zRokh yeah :P 12:57 GNADev|zRokh how about light drinks? 12:57 JesseH if you are really the past me, then you will love it, and waste so much money on it >_< 12:57 GNADev|zRokh like Pina Colata? 12:57 JesseH dont ever drink, youll become addicted to the taste itself 12:57 JesseH not even the feeling 12:58 JesseH wait until you are at least 18 to experiment with mind altering substances :P 12:58 JesseH Do it for the future GNADev|zRokh 12:59 GNADev|zRokh well not that much, i only drink 1-2 pina colatas a year (maybe twice that much, depends...) on Christmas and new year's eve 12:59 JesseH Anyone else want to create a brand new game using the MT engine? :P i do 12:59 GNADev|zRokh :P 12:59 GNADev|zRokh hey, how about GTA VI :D 12:59 JesseH I have gta v 12:59 JesseH on xbox 12:59 dafull97 i am starting a Virus Removal business somtime this week LOL 12:59 JesseH Do et 12:59 JesseH Youll be rich 13:00 dafull97 who me? 13:00 JesseH yes 13:00 dafull97 oh... not really LOL 13:00 JesseH Eventually. It's a good start 13:00 JesseH You should be like, 16-17? 13:01 dafull97 16 13:01 JesseH wicked :D 13:02 dafull97 LOl 13:02 dafull97 LOL* 13:02 GNADev|zRokh :D 13:03 dafull97 well, i cannot say i am not dumb... i made a program that shuts down a whole routers computers 13:03 dafull97 used it in my class room 13:04 dafull97 LOL 13:04 GNADev|zRokh JesseH, wanna see what i've started yesterday? 13:04 GNADev|zRokh wait 13:04 JesseH used to love playing with netsend :3 13:04 JesseH until they figured out netsend sends the name of your computer >:( 13:04 JesseH GNADev|zRokh, sure man :D 13:05 GNADev|zRokh http://i.imgur.com/zY6ydsI.png 13:05 JesseH oh lawd :D 13:05 GNADev|zRokh do you like it? 13:05 JesseH We have an aspiring web dev here :D 13:06 GNADev|zRokh LOL, not rlly, i only do HTML, CSS and a LITTLE BIT PHP when it comes to web developing :D 13:06 GNADev|zRokh and the logo was generated in Gimp 13:06 JesseH Good stuff 13:06 GNADev|zRokh :D 13:06 JesseH fiddle around with bootstrap, and frameworks like django and rails 13:06 GNADev|zRokh no! 13:06 GNADev|zRokh i will not use them 13:06 JesseH D: 13:06 GNADev|zRokh i will make my own :D 13:06 JesseH That's what I'm doing :D 13:06 GNADev|zRokh LOL :D 13:07 GNADev|zRokh will it be called WebJH? 13:07 JesseH I warn you, you will need to have a deep understand on exactly what you need :P 13:07 GNADev|zRokh i know... :P 13:07 JesseH So its best to make lots of web apps and then youll know 13:07 JesseH how to create a framework 13:07 * JesseH is learning this now 13:07 GNADev|zRokh lol :D 13:07 GNADev|zRokh so, JesseH, what do you think of the name: WebJH :D 13:07 JesseH It is interesting 13:08 JesseH I want to name a weird veggie 13:08 JesseH like Corn 13:08 JesseH or Sausage 13:08 JesseH sausage isnt a veggie tho! 13:08 GNADev|zRokh veggie as in the underwear pull? 13:08 JesseH vegetables 13:08 * JesseH goes to find food, brb 13:08 GNADev|zRokh oh :D 13:12 Jordach wat wat wat] 13:12 GNADev|zRokh https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7379 13:12 Jordach > adblock 13:12 Jordach > youtube 13:12 Jordach > displayed ad 13:12 GNADev|zRokh ??? 13:13 GNADev|zRokh well bye! 13:13 GNADev|zRokh oh, and Jordach, could you please tell JesseH to look at the link when he gets back? 13:13 GNADev|zRokh thanks! 13:15 dafull97 ok im back 13:31 dafull97 time change classes, be back later 13:51 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/ww1hY5Y.jpg 14:05 pitriss please how i can redefine default:water_flowing ? I just copied that definition from default into my own lua file and I'm getting "Name default:water_flowing does not follow naming conventions: "modname:" or ":" prefix required" 14:10 * Jordach thinks adding two new rules to the forum: No adf.ly links and No .rar archives 14:10 Jordach pitriss, :default:water_flowing 14:10 pitriss ahh ok, ty.. I will try that:) 14:10 Jordach if you put a colon in front of :: 14:10 Jordach then it will override anything 14:12 pitriss Jordach: ah okay.. I'm trying add drowning into technic_game.. I figured that in water definition is missing drowning=1 14:13 Jordach hmm 14:13 pitriss but i want it as separate file to be able easily update this game 14:13 pitriss eh not file, more like mod.. 14:15 CraigyDavi I'm still getting this error while loading my server: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Player::deSerialize(): PlayerArgsEnd of player "abcdefg" not found. 14:16 CraigyDavi All player files have no text although I can still hilight it. 14:17 CraigyDavi Seems like a player called "D" has done this as they are the only player which still has thier file/ 14:19 CraigyDavi There are these wierd files called .~Mt Could this have anything to do with this? 14:19 Pelayo why no rar? O_o 14:20 Pelayo before that I would forbid any mac user the right of submitting archives, because of all the extra shit mac os x adds to directories... :P 14:23 Exio4 minetest actually doesn't work that well under mac 14:24 Pelayo I have to try it, but even if it worked perfectly it would probably fail on my computer... a barely working hackintosh partition -_- 14:36 * Jordach pokes sfan5 14:36 * sfan5 pokes Jordach 14:38 JesseH quit it you two ._. 14:39 CraigyDavi Or is there anything else I could do... I have tried everything apart from deleting all the player inventories and they will have to start agian. Is there also anything I can do to stop this from happening. Is it the so called "hackers"? 14:40 Jordach CraigyDavi, Minetest sometimes (accidentially, no idea why) corrupts player files 14:42 CraigyDavi Hmm. I think I'll make more backups more often. Oh and does this mean the port forwarding isnt working or something: ERROR[ServerThread]: Serverlist at url servers.minetest.net error (Timeout was reached) 14:47 CraigyDavi Because I hope the port forwarding has'nt gone wrong again. 15:11 Krock I would like to know how to use the minecart... can someone help a newbie? 15:12 CraigyDavi You first have to place them on rails. 15:12 CraigyDavi Rightclick to get in it. 15:12 CraigyDavi And left click to speed it up 15:12 Jordach (you need to left click it to get it moving then right click) 15:13 Krock okay thanks 15:13 Krock and can i put tihngs inside it? 15:14 CraigyDavi You can on this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=730 15:14 Krock thx 15:14 CraigyDavi but i presume you are using Pilzadam's Carts mod. 15:14 CraigyDavi In which you can't 15:15 Krock oh 15:15 Krock so it's an useless mod until now? 15:16 CraigyDavi Well that mod will only be usefull for traveling in and not transporting stuff. 15:16 Krock hmm but it only goes away without me :3 15:17 Krock if i understood that right... 15:19 twoelk you have to be fast 15:19 twoelk or make a loop 15:20 twoelk or attach a button 15:20 twoelk or...or... 15:20 Krock i'm using pilzadams minecart :/ 15:21 twoelk actually powered rails with a button on a mese block near the tracks is a good thing 15:26 Ritchie_ https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=113490#p113490 spam on forums 15:27 Krock omg! thats the world's END! 15:30 Jordach ninja'd by VanessaE 15:30 Jordach or sfan5 15:30 * sfan5 shows his hand 15:33 VanessaE afk 15:36 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:37 Krock hey 15:37 Krock new errof for you 15:38 Krock *error 16:19 markveidemanis Hi 16:21 Calinou hi 16:24 thefamilygrog66 What does Redd Foxx say? 16:25 Krock It says "Hello" 16:25 Krock Can I ask for asking? 16:30 Calinou yes 16:48 rubenwardy Hi all 16:49 PilzAdam /nick all ; /msg #minetest hi rubenwardy ; /nick PilzAdam 16:50 rubenwardy ? 16:50 rubenwardy Oh right, I get it 17:04 Dan_D I have made a car mod.See modding general. 17:04 rubenwardy what are you all doing? 17:04 rubenwardy saw it 17:04 Dan_D Just now 17:05 Dan_D I probs won't continue development, was just a test I thought worth posting 17:06 markveidemanis I have a strange question about the depencencies.. 17:06 Dan_D I dunno what they are. None I think 17:06 markveidemanis Would it be possible to install them, and their dependencies, offline 17:06 markveidemanis I wont have internet in xubuntu 17:06 Dan_D What do you mean? 17:07 markveidemanis $depends= 17:07 markveidemanis build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfreetype6-dev 17:07 rubenwardy You need the internet to download stuff 17:07 markveidemanis Would it be possible to automatically find their depends? 17:07 Dan_D Oh right 17:07 rubenwardy if you have them installed, then no internet 17:07 markveidemanis Or is that __all__ 17:07 rubenwardy Have you installed them already? 17:07 markveidemanis No in on windows 17:08 markveidemanis Its install offline or find a driver for my usb wifi adaptor 17:08 markveidemanis Which is a TP-LINK TL-WDN3200 17:08 markveidemanis I think it worked once but crasjed soon after 17:09 Dan_D In Blender, can you change the size of a shape,eg makie it 'shorter'on one side, without using scale? 17:10 rubenwardy You can use the scale tool, or input the values into the object tab 17:11 rubenwardy is that what you mean? 17:12 Dan_D I mean, if you use scale, when texturing,textures get stretched 17:14 rubenwardy I wish there was a program that displayed steam like pop ups when some one forum posts 17:24 rubenwardy http://ubuntuone.com/3PbAAp2JsrWTFPtwd2mW4c ! 17:24 rubenwardy (screenshot) 17:29 rubenwardy Bas080: https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/commit/076f91853cbbd8d33a26927d5c0caa7c9aa89289 17:34 thefamilygrog66 Since I make a lot of roads out of cloud -- they can't be griefed, for one reason -- I added this to the stairs mod: http://pastebin.com/zzdDC1kf 17:34 Calinou you could use maptools 17:34 Calinou maptools has unbreakable nodes 17:39 thefamilygrog66 Is that a mod, Calinou? 17:39 Calinou yes 17:39 Calinou made by me :3 17:40 thefamilygrog66 At any rate, I like the aesthetics of cloud roads; they're dream-like... :) 17:40 Calinou it's cool for making server-protected buildings or adventure maps 17:40 thefamilygrog66 Ahh, cool. 17:41 rubenwardy You can make force fields! 17:41 rubenwardy :P 17:41 Calinou clip, yes 17:41 rubenwardy or just transparent blocks that the player can not get through 17:41 rubenwardy Force field sounds better 17:41 rubenwardy :PPP 17:43 thefamilygrog66 I made a climbable, invisible node for my magic beanstalks, and it's proven to be pretty handy for making invisible elevators. 18:02 NakedFury how is everyone? 18:05 rubenwardy Good thanks! 18:05 * rubenwardy is making a map editor for irrlicht 18:05 NakedFury map editor? 18:05 NakedFury for minetest or another game? 18:16 zat Is there a way to make fonts bigger? to make them at least readable. 18:17 PilzAdam font_size in minetest.conf 18:18 zat thx 18:18 PilzAdam what is your screensize and resolution? 18:19 zat 15.9 inches, 1920x1200 18:20 PilzAdam why dont you use SI? 18:21 zat what is a SI 18:21 PilzAdam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI 18:22 zat Mainly for screen sizes are always measured in inches 18:22 zat (diagonally) 18:24 rubenwardy I answered that. "making a map editor for irrlicht) 18:24 PilzAdam everything should be measured in SI units or units based on them with a base of 10 18:25 rubenwardy NakedFury: I answered that. "making a map editor for irrlicht" 18:26 rubenwardy It will be a custom map loader code for a program to embed in their game, and load dynamic maps 18:26 zat PilzAdam: yes, everything should. 18:43 rubenwardy bye all 18:50 zat PilzAdam: there? 18:50 PilzAdam where? 18:50 zat there 18:51 zat you know if Minetest can limit the CPU usage of flowing liquids? 18:51 PilzAdam ah, there 18:51 PilzAdam you can limit the max loop count 18:53 zat found it thx 18:54 zat how much you think is appropriate to not kill my cpu? 18:54 PilzAdam I dont know your CPU personally, so dunno 18:57 zat Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2212 @ 1.98Ghz 19:04 Krock PilzAdam: My minetest is using 99% of CPU and the FPS always go down to 5 at digging... what canproblem) 19:04 Krock *what can i do to silve this? ( the server is not the problem) 19:04 Krock *solve 19:04 Jordach digging always drops fps, even for people with dedicated graphics 19:05 Krock hmm okay 19:23 VanessaE that digging thing has been an issue since...shit...forever. 19:23 PilzAdam bye 19:28 zat # Update liquids every .. recommend for finite: 0.2 19:28 zat means? seconds? 19:30 Calinou probably seconds 19:33 zat probably...... 19:35 Calinou Pelayo: Pelayo I'm in linux, and it works really fast in my worst laptop with opengl 2.something, and slow in my good laptop with opengl 3.0 19:35 Calinou that has nothing to do 19:36 Calinou it's your graphics card, your desktop effects, your CPU that cause low FPS 19:36 Calinou or game settings (eg. too high view distance) 19:47 Pelayo Calinou, I'm not sure about that, the settings are the same in both machines... the bad one's gpu is an intel gma 950 that can barely run the first portal, while the good one has a radeon hd that runs portal 2 19:47 Calinou which radeon HD? 19:47 Pelayo both are using a desktop that makes no use of acceleration (Mate) 19:47 Pelayo let's see.. 19:47 Pelayo Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470] bus-ID 01:00.0 19:47 Pelayo X.Org 1.13.3 drivers ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution 1280x800@60.0hz 19:47 Pelayo GLX Renderer Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV620 GLX Version 3.0 Mesa 9.1.4 Direct Rendering Yes 19:47 Calinou woah, that's old and low end 19:47 Pelayo 3470 19:48 Calinou don't complain about low performance :P 19:48 Pelayo low end compared to what? 19:48 Pelayo :P 19:48 Pelayo it's the best gpu I have, but I'm getting better performance from an intel gpu O_o 19:48 Calinou 3470: HD 3000 series (very old), 470 (very low end), M (mobile = slower) 19:48 Calinou a dedicated card can be slower than an IGP 19:48 Pelayo but only on selected things like minetest 19:48 Pelayo strange 19:48 Calinou a GT610 will be slower than an iris pro 5200 :P 19:49 Pelayo it's about 4 years old I think 19:58 jojoa1997 i love linux 19:59 jojoa1997 once i solved my computer problem this is great 19:59 sfan5 heh 19:59 VanessaE jojoa1997: https://github.com/VanessaE/display_blocks/commit/c536e9ca4e5745795f03ef56a7851b2a2f2a0cb9 19:59 VanessaE er, https://github.com/jojoa1997/display_blocks/pull/1 19:59 VanessaE merge this, please 20:00 jojoa1997 ok 20:00 jojoa1997 i had meant to fix it but didnt know how then forgot 20:01 jojoa1997 though why did you chnage the interval from 1.00 to 2.00 20:01 VanessaE to reduce CPU a bit more 20:01 VanessaE running an abm every second is not always necessary, and the crystal shows up fast anyhow 20:01 jojoa1997 is one interval a second 20:03 jojoa1997 VanessaE: merged 20:04 VanessaE thanks 20:04 VanessaE it's already in service on the servers anyways, but this cuts CPU usage nicely. 20:04 dafull97 Hey guys 20:05 jojoa1997 can anyone tell me how i could build hexchat in ubuntu/linux 20:05 VanessaE every time you set a node (or remove one), you cause a change to the mapblock, which forces the mesh generator to run, consuming CPU 20:05 VanessaE use xchat 20:05 VanessaE it IS hexchat 20:05 VanessaE hexchat == xchat for windows 20:06 jojoa1997 :( 20:06 * jojoa1997 wants hexchat 20:06 jojoa1997 whatever 20:08 Miner_48er https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable 20:10 jojoa1997 gtg 20:11 Calinou xchat exists on windows, but is pais 20:11 Calinou paid 20:11 Calinou er, they left 20:11 Calinou VanessaE: hexchat has a decent number of improvements, but is said to be less stable 20:12 Calinou it's not in *buntu repos, need to use PPA or source. :( 20:13 VanessaE ohhhhhh 20:14 VanessaE I thought one was simply the other, built for "that other" OS :) 20:19 tinoesroho_ Uh, how do I combine textures? Like this? inventory_image = "clothing_shirts_inv_overlay_"..colour..".png"^"clothing_shirt_inv_white.png", 20:20 VanessaE almost 20:20 Calinou "texture_1.png^texture_on_top.png" 20:20 Calinou I think it's that 20:20 VanessaE "somename"..var.."^somename2"..var2 20:20 VanessaE and the like 20:20 VanessaE ^ goes inside the quoted strign 20:20 VanessaE string 20:20 tinoesroho_ Oh. 20:20 Calinou .. goes outside though 20:20 Calinou concatenation 20:20 VanessaE yes 20:23 tinoesroho_ ... So, like: inventory_image = ""clothing_shirts_inv_overlay_"..colour..".png"^"clothing_shirt_inv_white.png"", or inventory_image = "clothing_shirts_inv_overlay_..colour...png^clothing_shirt_inv_white.png", ? 20:24 thefamilygrog66 Cloud stairs/slabs = a fine addition to stairs mod, if you ask me. 20:26 tinoesroho_ 'twould be. 20:27 tinoesroho_ I was a bit sick of custom skins, so I figured a Clothing mod would be better. It's awesome for LAN play, and offers a ton of customization. 20:28 tinoesroho_ Now it's just a matter of fixing the overlay code, and voila! Hey presto! Capes, shirts, pants/shorts! Full on Club Penguin alternative train is pulling into the station. Choo choo1 20:28 Calinou that's what she said 20:29 VanessaE thefamilygrog66: white wool stairs. gloopblocks. 20:29 VanessaE close enough? 20:30 thefamilygrog66 nope 20:30 thefamilygrog66 haha 20:30 VanessaE damn 20:30 VanessaE I tried. 20:30 thefamilygrog66 I mentioned earlier that I like to make roads outta cloud, so stairs and slabs are a logical extension 20:30 thefamilygrog66 :) 20:30 VanessaE I could perhaps add cloud stairs to gloopblocks 20:30 tinoesroho_ ... Ah. 20:30 VanessaE maybe, possibly. 20:30 VanessaE with a suitable amount of prodding : 20:31 VanessaE :P 20:31 thefamilygrog66 I already added the code for 'em in my custom grog mod on my server 20:32 VanessaE heh ok 20:48 Nocte You know what kind of server there should be for Minetest? A server where the main purpose is to try and troll others. :D /joke 20:50 roguejedi79 i'm going to try and set up a server tonight on ubuntu 12.04. any recommend mods i should include? 20:50 VanessaE everything :P 20:51 Nocte Everything cool... 20:51 VanessaE seriously though 20:51 Nocte Moreblocks, Moreores... 20:51 proller roguejedi79, liquid_finite=1 20:51 MinetestBot GIT: RealBadAngel commited to minetest/minetest: FIx wrong error message on invalid use of the formspec element image_button 5598f3c81b 2013-10-07T13:50:26-07:00 http://git.io/b1c6YQ 20:51 VanessaE recommended depends on the theme of your server. 20:51 Calinou roguejedi79: moreblocks, maptools 20:51 Nocte How can I see the user list in a server? 20:51 * Calinou gallops away 20:51 Calinou Nocte: /status -- tells you players and uptime in seconds 20:51 Calinou (also server MOTD) 20:52 roguejedi79 thanx 20:54 Nocte Lol, I suck at hunger games map. 20:54 Nocte I jumped into a water hole. :| 20:55 roguejedi79 general server. no theme at this point in time. something basic 20:57 Taoki Are inverted slabs still a separate node type in latest GIT? Or are 6D facedir rotations possible for nodeboxes now? 20:58 VanessaE taoki, didn't they push a fix for that already? 20:58 VanessaE Taoki: also, please join #minetest-technic 20:58 Taoki Ah, so they should be good now? 20:58 Taoki Ok, migh add it to autojoin 20:59 Calinou no, they use 6d facedir 20:59 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/3804d8a078dc5474501463c8f331b91a0873cf3a 20:59 VanessaE so yes. 20:59 tinoesroho_ Oh, perfect. I think I broke my clothing mod. 20:59 Calinou moreblocks does that too I think 20:59 Calinou tinoesroho_: everyone will be naked :'( 21:00 tinoesroho_ Calinou: Might not be a bad thing. :-7 21:00 VanessaE Calinou: have you compared my 6d prediction code against default? I'm curious which performs better/more predictably 21:00 Taoki Nice. Placing slabs in-world now. Glad they aren't going to be stored as another item 21:00 zat ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace... 21:00 zat wat!? 21:00 Calinou it's invisible to the end user 21:00 Calinou zat: happens if a mod attempts to place an unknown node for any reason 21:00 Calinou VanessaE: no? :p 21:01 zat Calinou: I have got an idea then 21:01 VanessaE Calinou: well I thought I'd ask :P 21:01 zat Calinou: I am flooded with dozens of those messages every five seconds 21:01 zat snow:ice it says 21:01 zat or snow:snow 21:02 Calinou which mods do you use? 21:02 thefamilygrog66 Bahaha: http://i.imgur.com/wRa4uMF.png 21:02 zat many, but it may be snow mod 21:02 thefamilygrog66 older computers, my ass! 21:02 VanessaE heh 21:02 Calinou thefamilygrog66: that's ugly 21:02 VanessaE you tried that in win98?? 21:02 Calinou my eyes :'( 21:03 VanessaE no wait, that's 95 isn't it 21:03 thefamilygrog66 nope, 98 21:03 tinoesroho_ It doesn't work in 95. 21:03 thefamilygrog66 98 SE, even 21:03 tinoesroho_ It requires 2000, if I recall correctly. 21:03 thefamilygrog66 was trying version 0.3.1 21:03 thefamilygrog66 ahh 21:03 zat wat! 21:03 thefamilygrog66 I'll have to track down an iso 21:04 * thefamilygrog66 is having fun with virtualbox 21:04 thefamilygrog66 I'm guessing it won't run in windows 3.1 either then... 21:04 thefamilygrog66 :) 21:04 tinoesroho_ There might also be a difference in the kernel between '00 and XP; Smokin-guns offers a 2000-only build. 21:04 VanessaE lol 21:04 VanessaE I dare you - I triple-dog-dare you to compile and run minetest on win 3.1 :D 21:05 thefamilygrog66 things were so much simpler back then. 21:05 thefamilygrog66 haha 21:05 tinoesroho_ *creates a distro called win 3.1* *cd /minetest/* *make* 21:06 tinoesroho_ Hey. How's the magic? 21:07 thefamilygrog66 Maybe Windows "Neptune" will run it: "Neptune was a test version of Windows 2000 for home users, being developed from 1999 till 2000." 21:07 tinoesroho_ ... I once had a Neptune ISO. 21:07 thefamilygrog66 ME likely won't 21:07 thefamilygrog66 Windows ME, that is - I don't think it ran anything well! 21:07 tinoesroho_ Unfortunately, it was impossible to find software that ran on Neptune. 21:08 thefamilygrog66 http://osvirtual.net/en/windows-neptune/ 21:08 tinoesroho_ I actually once installed it to a P4. Hilarity ensued. Neptune, I'm talking about. 21:08 thefamilygrog66 nice 21:09 thefamilygrog66 I installed windows 2.1 on virtualbox earlier today - had never even seen that one before 21:09 jojoa1997 hi 21:09 thefamilygrog66 howdy jojoa1997 21:10 tinoesroho_ Hey, jojoa. 21:10 tinoesroho_ I didn't know there was 2.1. 21:10 tinoesroho_ I thought it went 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.11 for Workgroups 21:11 thefamilygrog66 The first one I really used was 3.1 21:11 tinoesroho_ (NT 4 vs 98: flame war begins) 21:11 thefamilygrog66 NT was better for business stuff, hehe 21:11 tinoesroho_ I learned computers on 3.1, was upgraded to 98se, and eventually inheirited an XP. 21:12 tinoesroho_ Then came self-desctructing Vista, so I had to install Linux. 21:12 tinoesroho_ I lived through Mint 7 to 13, and- *derails thread* 21:12 thefamilygrog66 Here's a screenshot I took of windows 2.1 earlier today: http://i.imgur.com/2VkqOcR.png 21:13 thefamilygrog66 looks a lot like early mac 21:14 jojoa1997 VanessaE, haha i am running HExchat on ubuntu and you said there was none 21:14 jojoa1997 also hexchat has some differences than xchat 21:14 thefamilygrog66 you guys and your sexychats 21:14 Nocte Windows ME. Lol. 21:14 jojoa1997 -.- 21:14 Nocte I remember that. 21:15 Nocte We used to have an ooooold computer with that on. It was slow and it was marked as slow in Age of Empires II multiplayer. 21:15 tinoesroho_ Pfft. You're doing it wrong. Everybody knows AoEII runs best on a Pentium with Windows 95. 21:16 thefamilygrog66 386, ftw 21:16 tinoesroho_ I ran AoE2 on Windows 98 (100 mhz pentium) with just 16mb of ram. 21:16 tinoesroho_ >.< Swapfile saw usage like nobody's business. 21:16 Nocte It showed 'Turtle' icon on the player name whoever played on ME computer. Hehe. 21:17 thefamilygrog66 gave that hard drive a real workout 21:17 tinoesroho_ Hard to believe that it would have worked just fine in 32mb. 21:17 tinoesroho_ Today, you'd be hard pressed to get a modern game in under a gig. 21:18 Nocte I actually loved Age of Empires II. ;) 21:18 tinoesroho_ I was an AoE1 fanboy. 10 years later, I went back to play it, and it's uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugly as heck. 21:18 tinoesroho_ I don't know how I even played it. 21:19 tinoesroho_ These days I play 0 AD when I need my RTS fix. 21:19 Nocte AoEII, you can still play it and not hate the graphics. 21:19 tinoesroho_ With the widescreen patch, it's rather playable. 21:19 Nocte Says the person who likes AscII roguelikes. :( 21:19 tinoesroho_ AoeII I'm talking about. 21:19 Nocte Widescreen patch? 21:20 tinoesroho_ Yup. 21:20 Nocte You are doing it wrong. 21:20 tinoesroho_ Why shell out fourteen bucks on Steam when there's an open source patch for that? 21:20 tinoesroho_ Also, you're a nethack terminal type? 21:21 Menche nethack is awesome 21:21 VanessaE jojoa1997: I didn't say there wasn't one, I said xchat is what you'd normally use in linux. 21:21 Nocte Nethack is cool. 21:21 Nocte I just can't get past Dungeon Level 5. :| 21:21 * Menche has never won a nethack game :( 21:22 tinoesroho_ Level 8 for me. 21:22 Menche i hit both the Oracle and Minetown in my best game 21:22 tinoesroho_ I usually play as an archaeologist. 21:22 Menche never gotten further 21:22 Menche isn't that a harder role? 21:22 tinoesroho_ Healer's are handy, though, because you never run out of food, infinite meatballs, and- 21:22 tinoesroho_ Not when you tin everything. 21:23 Menche i do best with barbarians and samurai 21:23 Nocte Any other Nethack style games with more modern style skill based stuff? 21:23 tinoesroho_ I used to play Valkryie until I starved to death all the time. 21:23 Nocte Like: Each level earn Skill Points to spend on stuff. 21:23 tinoesroho_ On the PSP, Valhalla Knights is now free. 21:23 Menche zapm? 21:23 Menche it's a sci-fi roguelike 21:24 Menche where you distribute earned skill points 21:24 zat Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "snow:ice" 21:24 Nocte Instead of dungeons you are dungeon crawling in spaceships? ;) 21:24 tinoesroho_ For consoles, consider Gladiator Begins. Ten bucks on the PSP/Vita. Nothing but endless battles. 21:24 zat still being flooded by those errors :S 21:25 Nocte Also on PC with AscII graphics would be the best... 21:26 tinoesroho_ Here I was going to suggest Torchlight 2... 21:26 thefamilygrog66 damn, can't get neptune to work in virtualbox 21:27 thefamilygrog66 aquamarine screen of death 21:27 thefamilygrog66 oh wait, there it is 21:27 thefamilygrog66 haha 21:27 Nocte Well, any dungeon crawlers on: PS1, PS2, Xbox360 btw? :p 21:27 Nocte (I can play PS1 games with PS2 if I just get a memory card for it.) 21:28 tinoesroho_ Torchlight 1 is 360. 21:28 thefamilygrog66 ps1 ftw 21:28 khonkhortisan wumpus 21:28 Nocte What was the best "Not Square Enix." RPG on PS1? :p 21:28 Nocte Or whatever. 21:28 Nocte Soft. 21:28 Nocte Etc. 21:30 thefamilygrog66 vagrant story? 21:30 thefamilygrog66 or was that squaresoft? 21:30 Nocte I think it was. 21:30 thefamilygrog66 hmm 21:30 thefamilygrog66 good game, anyway 21:31 tinoesroho_ Ki- 21:32 khonkhortisan I always wasted my arrows then ran around and got eaten 21:32 Nocte Arrows? Arrows are for cowards! 21:32 Nocte Wield an axe and charge in! 21:32 Nocte >:D 21:33 khonkhortisan games with infinite arrows are also for cowards 21:33 khonkhortisan I find I live longer when ranged 21:33 Menche in nethack i do fairly well with rangers 21:33 Nocte Usually my #1 reason I die a lot in FPS games because I don't notice I used all the ammo. 21:34 Nocte "Why is it not shooting?" *shot* :| 21:34 Menche but the arrows always break >:( 21:37 thefamilygrog66 C:\Minetest\bin\minetest.exe is not a valid Win32 application. 21:37 Menche you put minetest in your root? 21:38 thefamilygrog66 Nope, the installer did 21:38 thefamilygrog66 not really my root, either - root of virtual neptune machine 21:38 thefamilygrog66 testing the whole "can run on older machines" claim 21:38 thefamilygrog66 :) 21:39 Menche neptune? 21:39 thefamilygrog66 windows 2000 home edition, sorta 21:40 thefamilygrog66 (note: it doesn't run on windows 98 either, hahaha) 21:40 Menche my 10 year old laptop runs it at about 7-10 fps 21:40 thefamilygrog66 windows xp? 21:40 Menche arch linux 21:40 thefamilygrog66 ahh 21:40 thefamilygrog66 I'm going to try to install a REALLY early version 21:40 Menche of minetest? 21:41 Menche the oldest minetest i've built is the initial commit on the bitbucket mercurial repo 21:41 Menche that version's signs are better than the ones we have now >:( 21:44 thefamilygrog66 which version is that, Menche? 21:45 Menche idk, the first commit on the old mercurial repo 21:45 Menche water is solid and can be picked up 21:45 Menche the inventory bar is on the side 21:46 Menche you can scroll through everything in your inventory in your hotbar without moving stuff around 21:46 thefamilygrog66 cool 21:47 Menche the inventory takes a bit of getting used to, and i don't think there's chat (i haven't found it anyway) 21:47 thefamilygrog66 I just tried 0.0.1 on windows 2000, and it's giving me a 0xc0000135 failed to initialize properly error 21:47 thefamilygrog66 ahh, .net framework 21:49 Menche that version was from 2010-11-26 21:49 Menche oldest source release i could find 21:53 Peacock greetings pheasants 21:54 thefamilygrog66 cluck 21:54 * Peacock gobbles 21:55 Peacock i didn't realize how quickly christmas was approaching - i only took down the tree last May :S 21:56 thefamilygrog66 haha, mine was on the lawn until 21:56 thefamilygrog66 April 21:56 Peacock (we had family over last weekend and they started talking about christmas plans) lol 21:56 thefamilygrog66 oops 21:56 Peacock naw im talking about indoor trees :P after december i simply put it in the spare room lol 21:57 thefamilygrog66 I'm talking about indoor trees as well, man - after new year's I just threw it off the deck into the snow 21:57 thefamilygrog66 granted, I lived in the deep woods at the time 21:57 Peacock good news though - my latest electric was much lower than i thought, so I should be able to power my tree this year XD 21:57 thefamilygrog66 nice 21:57 Peacock i have one of those rubbermaid containers full of circuits lol 21:57 * thefamilygrog66 just installed ie6 21:58 Peacock ie6? i hope your zealot-radar is on :P 21:58 thefamilygrog66 I'm trying to get minetest to run on a windows 2000 vm 21:58 thefamilygrog66 haha 21:58 Peacock christ compels you to adhere to the four freedoms :P 21:59 thefamilygrog66 free your mind and your ass will follow 21:59 thefamilygrog66 pretty sure I've infected this virtual machine already :) 21:59 thefamilygrog66 whoops 22:00 Peacock you know what they say, at least there's something to break on windows, linux has that feature built-in XD 22:00 thefamilygrog66 hehe 22:01 Peacock though for running minetest its better off on linux 22:02 thefamilygrog66 except when it isn't 22:03 Peacock well im going on the principle that it was designed by ppl running linux to run on linux lol 22:04 thefamilygrog66 that said, it's amazing how much incompatibility there is between the various versions of 0.4.7... 22:06 zat Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "snow:ice" 22:06 zat still being flooded by those errors :S 22:08 VanessaE default:ice 22:08 VanessaE don't use the snow mod unless you need it. 22:08 VanessaE minetest has its own nodes for thaty 22:08 VanessaE -y 22:10 thefamilygrog66 minetest should go back to the inventory on the left side 22:10 * thefamilygrog66 is playing 0.0.1 22:10 Menche i liked how you could scroll the hotbar through the entire inventory 22:10 thefamilygrog66 yeah, that's handy/less awkward for sure 22:11 Menche but Minecraft has it on the bottom, so we must copy that >:( 22:11 thefamilygrog66 must. copy. minecraft. 22:12 Menche would it be possible to make the old side-bar inventory in the current version in pure lua? does the hud api support moving the hotbar around like that? 22:12 ShadowNinja Yes, it does, but I don't think it supports catching scroll events. 22:15 thefamilygrog66 it would likely be a lot slower than 0.0.1 as well, haha 22:15 thefamilygrog66 progress! 22:15 Menche yeah 22:15 * Menche likes building water houses on early versions of minetest 22:17 thefamilygrog66 Gross, someone posted krokodil photos on fb - now I don't want to eat supper... o_O 22:17 thefamilygrog66 there's yer zombie apocalypse right there 22:18 Menche cuz injecting a substance containing gasoline or whatever into yourself is coool 22:19 thefamilygrog66 so gross 22:19 Menche some people... 22:21 zat VanessaE: under what circumstances can the snow mod be “needed”? 22:22 zat (you said not to use it unless I need it) 22:22 VanessaE zat: if you explicitly want it eg. for its trees or something 22:22 VanessaE otherwise use the default nodes 22:23 zat trees? 22:24 zat snow trees lol 22:24 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Add Czech language 5f3806c93c 2013-10-07T15:23:35-07:00 http://git.io/ZPpRBA 22:25 thefamilygrog66 bye for now folks 22:27 zat VanessaE: so the mod is not compatible with the built in snow feature. 22:28 VanessaE no it's not that 22:29 VanessaE it's just that snow mod has its own nodes and has not yet adapted to use the defaults. 22:29 VanessaE that will happen at the next release of snow mod, which is waiting for 0.4.8 to come out 22:30 VanessaE wrong mod I think 22:30 zat just awesome... disabled the snow mod and now half of the mountains are unknown blocks. 22:30 VanessaE he's talking about SPlizard's snow mod, not the weather mod 22:31 zat VanessaE: she* 22:31 VanessaE zat: minetest.register_alias("snow:snow", "default:snow") et al. 22:31 VanessaE she, sorry 22:31 zat what with that line? 22:31 VanessaE that line will equate the snow mod's snow node to the default one 22:32 VanessaE you'll want to do the same with the other nodes you're using from snow mod 22:32 VanessaE e.g. ice, the tree nodes, etc. 22:32 zat so I just need to add those lines to the mod code? 22:32 VanessaE alias them to something you can be sure you will always have 22:32 VanessaE make some kind of compatibility mod and put that line and others like it. 22:37 zat trying 22:39 zat no VanessaE, those alias wont make the messages stop 22:39 kahrl zat: did you put the alias into the snow mod? 22:40 zat it was in a different mod~ 22:40 zat one I made to introduce the aliases 22:42 VanessaE wait, what messages? 22:42 VanessaE the CONTENT_IGNORE one? 22:42 VanessaE you're trying to add the wrong node. use default:snow et al. 22:43 VanessaE not snow:snow 22:44 zat What makes you think I used snow:snow? 22:44 VanessaE because you said you had the snow mod installed. I assumed you were using its nodes. 22:44 VanessaE and that removing it rendered half of your landscape as unknown nodes. 22:45 zat it was long before you suggested me the aliases 22:46 zat should I keep the snow mod on or not? 22:46 Peacock apple pie 22:47 VanessaE what's the purpose of the snow mod in your case? 22:47 zat having..... snow 22:47 zat do you know how I get rid of those error messages? 22:47 VanessaE I mean, do you need the active mapgen-based landscape code from it, or just the nodes? 22:47 zat nodes I guess 22:47 zat I generated the map with the mod on 22:48 VanessaE ok 22:48 Menche aliases should work if you remove it 22:48 VanessaE in that case ditch the snow mod, add those aliases, and use the default nodes in your new code. 22:48 VanessaE that's how to get rid of those errors. 22:51 zat now the same errors, this time mentioning the default: nodes. 22:53 zat Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:ice" at ... 22:53 zat dozens, with different coordinates 22:53 Menche try to /give yourself ice, to see if you're version has it 22:53 Menche *your 22:54 zat it is unknown 22:55 zat though default:ice gives me ice 22:55 zat semi transparent one 22:59 zat now I am flooded with messages and half of the mountains turned into flowing water 23:00 VanessaE damn 23:00 VanessaE well in that case you either have to use the snow mod, or you have to update your minetest. 23:00 zat update to what version' 23:00 Menche it melts? 23:01 zat I compiled from the last commit today 23:01 zat It probably melted Menche 23:01 Menche and minetest_game is the latest too? 23:02 zat both 23:04 VanessaE if minetest_game is fully up-to-date from git, you have those nodes. 23:04 VanessaE if you don't, it ain't :) 23:04 VanessaE maybe the node names are wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're right. 23:04 zat I have the nodes 23:04 VanessaE ok good 23:04 zat still the messages keep appearing 23:05 NakedFury split the mod into small parts and check them all 1 at a time 23:07 zat sure 23:08 NakedFury it may take time but it will help to eventually find the problem 23:16 proller zat, weather=1 ? 23:17 stormchaser3000 hi 23:24 stormchaser3000 is anyone on 23:25 NakedFury yes 23:25 VanessaE hi 23:25 stormchaser3000 hi 23:48 zat proller: weather what for 23:48 zat those: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:ice" 23:48 zat are driving me crazy 23:49 zat I see twenty of those errors for every one player action, in the logs 23:50 proller do you have weather=1 in config? 23:57 zat ye I have proller 23:57 zat is it bad? 23:58 proller its good, but needs correct minetest_game / mods