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15:55 Topic for #minetest is now Please, be courteous, here and in other channels. This isn't a playground. | IRC: Be patient; get to know the rules | HOME: http://minetest.net | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | STATUS: http://servers.minetest.ru/ | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
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15:58 RagnarLaud hi
15:58 RagnarLaud PilzAdam i need help in compiling
15:58 RagnarLaud let me copy/paste the error...
15:59 RagnarLaud Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
15:59 RagnarLaud Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
15:59 RagnarLaud what to do?
15:59 thexyz sudo
15:59 RagnarLaud what?
15:59 thexyz sudo
15:59 RagnarLaud just type in sudo?
15:59 RagnarLaud it gives me a list of commands
16:00 RagnarLaud maybe sudo apt-get
16:00 RagnarLaud OH
16:00 RagnarLaud wait what?
16:00 RagnarLaud OH
16:00 RagnarLaud i get it
16:01 RagnarLaud the file needs to be in sudo/root?
16:01 RagnarLaud or what?!
16:01 VanessaE RagnarLaud: sudo apt-get install <whatever you were trying to install before>
16:01 thexyz jin_xi: well, I'm sorry, I was updating mysql server and then bot crashed because of its absence
16:01 RagnarLaud im trying to compile minetest
16:01 RagnarLaud -.-
16:01 VanessaE e.g. the list of dependencies in the readme.
16:01 RagnarLaud oh :D
16:02 RagnarLaud vanessa...
16:02 RagnarLaud can you help me compile?
16:02 VanessaE no.
16:03 RagnarLaud its my first time
16:03 RagnarLaud why?
16:03 RagnarLaud arent we friends?
16:03 VanessaE because the README is very clear.
16:03 RagnarLaud thexyz
16:03 VanessaE and you need to learn how to do it
16:03 RagnarLaud I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO
16:03 thexyz what?
16:03 RagnarLaud can you help me compile?
16:03 thexyz no
16:03 RagnarLaud its my 1st time
16:03 RagnarLaud cmon
16:03 PilzAdam RagnarLaud, rtfm
16:03 RagnarLaud -.-
16:03 thexyz VanessaE: /kick RagnarLaud
16:03 RagnarLaud rtfm?
16:03 RagnarLaud why?
16:03 RagnarLaud NO!
16:03 RagnarLaud was kicked by VanessaE: because thexyz said so ;)
16:03 thexyz thx
16:03 VanessaE np
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16:04 RagnarLaud ok, ill behave
16:04 RagnarLaud like i didnt before... -.-
16:04 thexyz you don't have to behave, just learn to read
16:04 VanessaE RagnarLaud: star there and follow the directions:  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L83
16:04 VanessaE start*
16:04 RagnarLaud youll help me?
16:04 RagnarLaud :)
16:04 VanessaE that's as much help as I can give.
16:04 thexyz no way
16:06 RagnarLaud ok...
16:06 VanessaE RagnarLaud: compiling is easy.  go read the instructions I pointed to, use google et.al to look up whatever you don't understand.
16:06 RagnarLaud oh
16:06 RagnarLaud i had to put a sudo before the huge line?
16:06 VanessaE PilzAdam: any interest in those couple of textures I pull-requested btw?
16:06 VanessaE RagnarLaud: no, you have to run it before you even turn on your computer.  duh.
16:06 PilzAdam I generally dislike the idea of using the GitHub issue tracker for texture suggestions
16:06 RagnarLaud how is that possible?
16:07 VanessaE PilzAdam: well, pull requests are still needed to get them into minetest_game anyway :-)
16:07 RagnarLaud what, do i type it in an actual notepad?
16:07 VanessaE RagnarLaud: fix your sarcasm detector.
16:07 VanessaE *facepalm*
16:07 RagnarLaud so i was right?
16:07 PilzAdam yep
16:07 RagnarLaud yay
16:07 RagnarLaud :)
16:08 RagnarLaud cd celeron55-minetest-286edd4
16:08 RagnarLaud replace celeron55-minetest-286edd4 ?
16:08 RagnarLaud and put minetest-flat
16:08 PilzAdam cd celeron*
16:08 RagnarLaud idk, that was how it was written in the README.txt :/
16:09 PilzAdam you have to change the directory to the one you have just downloaded
16:09 VanessaE PilzAdam: someone should indeed update the readme, that command should be shortened and combined with the cd games/ command...
16:09 PilzAdam but the name of the directory is not the same every time
16:09 VanessaE e.g.  cd celeron55-minetest*/games
16:09 RagnarLaud if minetest-flat is on my desktop, then what?
16:10 PilzAdam RagnarLaud, type cd and the drag the desctop folder into the terminal
16:10 PilzAdam *drag and drop
16:10 RagnarLaud i can do that?
16:10 VanessaE (of course that won't work if the user has more than one minetest copy on hand..)
16:12 RagnarLaud what do i do with the mv?
16:12 RagnarLaud mv "what" "what"
16:12 RagnarLaud im cd'd in .../games
16:12 PilzAdam type "man mv" and read
16:13 RagnarLaud simplify?
16:13 RagnarLaud cmon, i read the minetest API
16:13 RagnarLaud now this?
16:13 RagnarLaud jesuz
16:14 PilzAdam well, you just have to read the first line of the manpage
16:14 RagnarLaud ok
16:14 PilzAdam "move (rename) files"
16:14 RagnarLaud what?
16:15 * RagnarLaud 's head hurts.
16:15 PilzAdam that was a quote from the manpage
16:15 RagnarLaud ok...
16:15 RagnarLaud i see that
16:15 PilzAdam mv celeron55-minetest_game-* minetest_game means you rename the folder
16:15 RagnarLaud oh
16:16 PilzAdam (as you can read in the manpage)
16:16 RagnarLaud btw, why is it called the manpage?
16:16 RagnarLaud did the developer make a typo?
16:16 PilzAdam umm... no?
16:16 RagnarLaud wanted to make it mainpage, but forgot the "i"
16:16 RagnarLaud :D
16:20 VanessaE man -> manual
16:20 RagnarLaud oh :D
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16:21 RagnarLaud KAEZA
16:21 RagnarLaud da fuq?
16:21 RagnarLaud kaeza
16:21 RagnarLaud help me compile?
16:21 kaeza compile what?
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16:33 RagnarLaud Zeg9
16:33 RagnarLaud i need help :(
16:33 Zeg9 Oh, no, not him -_-
16:33 RagnarLaud PilzAdam is bulling me :'o
16:33 * RagnarLaud isn't loved by anybody
16:33 RagnarLaud :'(
16:34 * RagnarLaud doesn't have any friends, so he tries to make friends online, but fails.
16:34 * Zeg9 is listening to MISSI͏NÒ‰GÍ¡NYÍ¡AN Ò‰CÁTÍž!"
16:34 * RagnarLaud is listening to StopHouse - Rocketman ft. Yelawolf
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16:35 RagnarLaud WHAT DA...
16:35 RagnarLaud harrison!
16:35 Zeg9 !g MISSI͏N҉G͡NY͡AN ҉CÁT͞!"
16:35 Minetest-tan Zeg9: No results found for 'MISSI͏N҉G͡NY͡AN ҉CÁT͞!"'.
16:35 Zeg9 !g MISSI͏N҉G͡NY͡AN ҉CÁT͞!"
16:35 Minetest-tan Zeg9: No results found for 'MISSI͏N҉G͡NY͡AN ҉CÁT͞!"'.
16:35 Zeg9 !g MISSI͏N҉G͡NY͡AN ҉CÁT͞!
16:35 Minetest-tan Zeg9: No results found for 'MISSI͏N҉G͡NY͡AN ҉CÁT͞!'.
16:35 Zeg9 :(
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16:35 RagnarLaud @VanessaE
16:36 RagnarLaud Zeg9 is abusing minetest-tan
16:36 Zeg9 ...
16:36 RagnarLaud NakedFury
16:36 harrison ?
16:36 NakedFury hello
16:36 RagnarLaud oh harrison, can you compile?
16:36 RagnarLaud NakedFury, help me compile?
16:37 Zeg9 RagnarLaud, compile what?
16:37 NakedFury cant because I dont know
16:37 RagnarLaud Minetest-Flat
16:37 Zeg9 What's this?
16:37 RagnarLaud PilzAdam made a new world gen, that makes the whole world flat
16:37 RagnarLaud and i want it so i can make my town :D
16:38 RagnarLaud Zeg9, help me?
16:38 Zeg9 Why does it need compile?
16:38 RagnarLaud cause its de-compiled :/
16:38 Zeg9 ...
16:38 Zeg9 PM
16:38 RagnarLaud yay
16:38 PilzAdam lol
16:38 PilzAdam de-compiled
16:39 RagnarLaud what else?
16:39 RagnarLaud if done = Compiled ; not = De-Compiled
16:39 Zeg9 ...
16:39 PilzAdam you dont have to decompile minetest because you can get the sources for free
16:39 PilzAdam decompile = get the source from the binary
16:41 celeron55 (which can't be done reasonably for C++)
16:42 PilzAdam celeron55, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4243 will you participate?
16:42 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Documentation sprint, 2013-01-19, in #minetest-doc (Page 1) - Unofficial engine development - Minetest Forums
16:43 celeron55 i will at least consult people if they have good questions
16:43 RagnarLaud PilzAdam
16:44 RagnarLaud why didnt you say that compiling was that easy?!
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16:44 Zeg9 You were supposed to google I think
16:44 rubenwardy hi all
16:44 RagnarLaud ruben1
16:44 RagnarLaud help me!
16:45 Jeija joined #minetest
16:47 kaeza leo_rockway: may I PM?
16:47 kaeza (if you are here that is)
16:47 rubenwardy RagnarLaud: mod or website?
16:48 rubenwardy nm
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16:50 RagnarLaud hi
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16:50 RagnarLaud im back
16:50 markveidemanis Hi!
16:50 RagnarLaud hi!
16:50 markveidemanis Is there a simple way to make mods?
16:51 thexyz yes!
16:51 markveidemanis Like: choose functions and it does the code
16:51 thexyz you open vim and you make mods
16:51 thexyz that simple
16:51 markveidemanis Vim?
16:51 thexyz yes, vim
16:51 markveidemanis Whats that?
16:51 markveidemanis Google...
16:51 thexyz !g vim
16:51 Minetest-tan thexyz: http://www.vim.org/
16:52 markveidemanis I was just there...
16:52 markveidemanis so thats the right site.
16:53 markveidemanis sudo...
16:53 markveidemanis sudo apt-get install vim
16:53 markveidemanis Works
16:53 markveidemanis Zzzzz
16:54 markveidemanis Bored face?
16:54 Zeg9 markveidemanis: irc isn't bash
16:54 markveidemanis :-(
16:54 kaeza vim? lol
16:54 markveidemanis *Ahem
16:54 markveidemanis Bash?
16:54 markveidemanis I know...
16:55 markveidemanis 20s left...
16:55 markveidemanis 52s left
16:55 markveidemanis now its 8...
16:55 markveidemanis why?
16:55 markveidemanis Why the inaccuracy
16:56 markveidemanis Its not going to get faster is it?
16:56 markveidemanis So...
16:56 markveidemanis Who is good at building IRL buildings in minetest
16:56 markveidemanis Looking for a REALLY GOOD architect
16:56 markveidemanis .
16:57 markveidemanis #mt-maps or #mt-servers?
16:58 markveidemanis Which is closest to srchitecture
16:58 markveidemanis A*
16:59 RagnarLaud *Coming Soon* Log In to HVGaming
16:59 kaeza this is now officialy being turned into a Yahoo chat room :P
16:59 Zeg9 markviedemanis, I know a friend which is good at that but he doesn't wanna play minetest, only minecraft
16:59 Zeg9 kaeza, you forgot *Coming Soon* lol
17:00 markveidemanis Who is it...i have minecraft!
17:00 markveidemanis is it john?
17:01 markveidemanis Can you join #mt-<servers,maps>
17:02 markveidemanis But dont click on the #---
17:02 markveidemanis WWell?
17:03 markveidemanis !!gg  wwwwww.ggooggllee.ccoomm
17:03 markveidemanis Nth to do
17:03 Zeg9 /poll ban markveidemanis
17:03 Zeg9 that would be good command ^_^
17:03 Zeg9 /poll mute
17:03 Zeg9 Better
17:04 markveidemanis IT Not Work!
17:04 markveidemanis Should be Vote
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17:04 markveidemanis flagserv chan
17:04 Calinou chanserv flag
17:05 leo_rockway kaeza: I just saw your message. You may!
17:05 markveidemanis <I get one line to type!> :@~:@:~@: Who can come on #mt-maps to talk about architecture
17:05 kaeza Zeg9, /vote yes
17:05 markveidemanis Whoops
17:05 markveidemanis Looks smaller in the box
17:06 markveidemanis \vote F*** NO!
17:06 markveidemanis == VOTE Unknown command
17:06 Zeg9 "F*** NO!" error parsing message; considering "yes"
17:07 kaeza O_o
17:08 * Calinou rolls eyes like a phoronix forums smiley
17:08 Calinou "when will they improve the nouveau driver and quiet markveidemanis? :rolleyes:"
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17:18 rubenwardy wtf http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4416
17:18 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: need help (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
17:18 rubenwardy Magic Mushrooms: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3862
17:18 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [Mod] Giant Mushroom [12.12] [riesenpilz] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
17:19 rubenwardy :D
17:19 rubenwardy lol
17:20 rubenwardy that guy even spelt his nickname wrong
17:20 rubenwardy "chase programer"
17:20 rubenwardy (double m)
17:22 * RagnarLaud so cold, yet RagnarLaud still hot!
17:24 kaeza rubenwardy, lol
17:24 rubenwardy Is anyone else seeing a star before the title of minetest forums?
17:24 rubenwardy (*)
17:24 kaeza IIRC he's a 9yr old
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17:24 RagnarLaud hi NekoGloop
17:24 kaeza rubenwardy, a star? O.o
17:24 RagnarLaud nope, ruben
17:24 rubenwardy assuming its a guy...
17:25 RagnarLaud rubenwardy, CLEAN YO SCREEN, IT DIRTY!
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17:25 rubenwardy i must be seeing stars...
17:25 NekoGloop Can someone please make a proper inventory BG image.
17:26 kaeza NekoGloop, hi :3
17:26 kaeza NekoGloop, when will I be able to see the table in action?
17:26 kaeza :P
17:26 NekoGloop When i finish it.
17:26 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/star_forum.png
17:26 rubenwardy checked my mail
17:26 rubenwardy i did
17:26 PilzAdam NekoGloop, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=63221#p63221
17:26 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: [Mod] Falling nodes [1] [falling_items] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
17:26 kaeza ah ok
17:27 NekoGloop No, i hadnt done that.
17:27 * marktraceur waves
17:27 marktraceur How's everyone this fine [insert time of day where you are here]
17:28 kaeza good and you marktraceur ?
17:28 Xenux joined #minetest
17:28 marktraceur I'm well! What's the scuttlebutt 'round these parts?
17:29 kaeza lolwut
17:30 Xenux joined #minetest
17:30 marktraceur What's the news?
17:30 hmmmm joined #minetest
17:32 kaeza not much, a new totally flat world by PilzAdam, a few changes in IRC mod, the usual spamming from markv...
17:32 kaeza :P
17:32 PilzAdam super flat and super fast mapgen to be precise
17:33 PilzAdam *a precise pangolin ;-)
17:33 kaeza lol
17:34 marktraceur Ah, but markv got muted, so that's good
17:35 NekoGloop a... what?
17:37 NekoGloop PilzAdam: where may we get this flat world?
17:37 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4412
17:37 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Super Flat Mapgen (Page 1) - Unofficial engine development - Minetest Forums
17:37 marktraceur NekoGloop: "Precise Pangolin" is a codeword for an Ubuntu GNU/Linux release.
17:37 kaeza 12.04
17:37 PilzAdam NekoGloop, the windows build is linked in the first post
17:38 NekoGloop this should be as a special seed.
17:38 NekoGloop like seed "0" or something
17:38 NekoGloop ;-)
17:38 kaeza even better: add a flat_mapgen config option ;)
17:38 NekoGloop yup
17:39 NekoGloop do eeeet.
17:39 PilzAdam seed would be better
17:39 PilzAdam it would be per world
17:39 kaeza hmm true
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17:40 NekoGloop one seed for entirely flat; no trees or anything.
17:40 NekoGloop one seed for flat + trees.
17:40 NekoGloop does this branch ignore minetest.register_on_generated?
17:40 PilzAdam nope
17:40 NekoGloop so there's still ores?
17:40 PilzAdam ores and junglegrass are generated
17:41 NekoGloop got it.
17:41 PilzAdam (as you can read in the first post)
17:41 NekoGloop Go ahead and make this into a hardcoded seed.
17:41 NekoGloop ;-)
17:42 marktraceur But this isn't a seed
17:42 marktraceur It's basically a game
17:42 NekoGloop *facepalm*
17:42 NekoGloop can you not understand english or something.
17:43 NekoGloop OH WAIT.
17:43 PilzAdam NekoGloop, please stay polite
17:43 marktraceur NekoGloop: I can, actually. Do you know what "seed" means?
17:43 NekoGloop I HAVE AN IDEA!
17:43 NekoGloop PilzAdam: Use the "world options" button!
17:43 NekoGloop It needs a use.
17:44 PilzAdam if the mod selection branch gets merged it has a use
17:44 PilzAdam but there could be selection box at worldgen GUI
17:44 PilzAdam s/at/in the/
17:45 NekoGloop whatever.
17:45 NekoGloop all i know is that we need this.
17:45 marktraceur NekoGloop: Seriously, I'm asking, do you understand what "seed" means in this context? It's kind of important.
17:46 NekoGloop A number that is processed by the map generator to create the perlin regions and all that nice stuff.
17:46 NekoGloop Now shut up.
17:46 marktraceur thexyz: Bold move :)
17:46 kaeza PilzAdam, does it generate water or only land?
17:47 PilzAdam land only
17:47 marktraceur NekoGloop: My point is that a seed necessarily means that the map will be random. Now, it can be random in different ways (e.g. map height doesn't get taken into effect), but that's on a per-game basis, not a per-seed one.
17:47 NekoGloop ...
17:47 NekoGloop >hard-coded seed
17:47 NekoGloop as in, you set the seed to this and it skips all that.
17:48 marktraceur NekoGloop: I'm saying that makes very little sense, since we already have a concept of a game, which changes the way mapgen works
17:48 dzho a seed means it's pseudorandom
17:48 NekoGloop fine
17:48 marktraceur NekoGloop: Better to change the game if you want to change the rules of mapgen, rather than just the seed.
17:48 dzho truly random has no seed
17:48 NekoGloop dont listen to me.
17:48 marktraceur NekoGloop: I *am* listening to you.
17:49 NekoGloop after all, I'm not the one who's coding the game
17:49 NekoGloop I dont matter.
17:49 marktraceur NekoGloop: You do matter.
17:49 kaeza dzho, there's no truly random PRNG
17:49 dzho kaeza: well, then, that's the P in PRNG isn't it?
17:49 kaeza in fact *nothing* is entirely random
17:50 kaeza except LM :P
17:50 dzho to infinite entropy and beyond!
17:50 NekoGloop I'm gonna sit here letting a map generate then release it for mapmakers.
17:51 kaeza J/K
17:51 PilzAdam NekoGloop, will you add "Created by PilzAdam's flat mapgenerator"?
17:51 VanessaE well, so much for 1024 posts. :-)
17:51 kaeza o hai V
17:51 NekoGloop well no shit sherlock.
17:51 NekoGloop after all, I did none of the work
17:51 VanessaE hey
17:52 kaeza +0x400 :P
17:52 marktraceur NekoGloop: FYI, even if some people around here don't appreciate you, I'm not so negative. I listen to people so long as they're being at least a little bit reasonable. Please don't overreact if I disagree with you, my intent is, 100% of the time, for you to further explain your opinion so I can understand it better.
17:53 NekoGloop I'm not overreacting
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17:54 NekoGloop PilzAdam: could you make one that doesnt generate trees?
17:54 Muadtralk oi anyone know some good high traffic servers that are decent?
17:54 Muadtralk my list of servers is full of dead ones :)
17:54 NekoGloop That's like asking if anyone can find a needle in a haystack.
17:54 Muadtralk yep!
17:54 Muadtralk anyone have a good one?
17:55 PilzAdam NekoGloop, it would be possible
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17:55 PilzAdam you can simply change the mapgen aliases in minetest_game
17:55 Muadtralk so is finding needles in haystacks
17:55 marktraceur NekoGloop: When I disagree with you and you say "Never mind, woe is me, nobody likes me", that seems a bit much to me.
17:55 NekoGloop I only state facts.
17:55 rubenwardy its like finding hay in a hay stack
17:55 marktraceur From Criminal Minds: "Actually, a needle would stand out in a haystack. What we're doing is more like trying to find a needle in a big pile of needles" :)
17:56 marktraceur NekoGloop: I care about what you have to say, so your facts need revising :)
17:57 VanessaE needle in a haystack?  easy.  really fucking big magnet :-)
17:57 marktraceur Exactly.
17:57 Zetetic Bone needle
17:57 kaeza not if you're a mormon :P
17:57 Zetetic Mormons are scared of magnets? Or use non-magnetic needles?
17:57 PilzAdam VanessaE, also: fire
17:58 marktraceur You could probably come up with an acid-like substance that corrodes hay but not bone, metal, etc.
17:58 VanessaE that works too
17:58 rubenwardy could be made of tin
17:58 marktraceur PilzAdam: You might wind up burning the needle up, too
17:58 rubenwardy or another non-iron based material
17:58 Zetetic A wooden needle might be hardest
17:58 Zetetic Or better yet, one made of some sort of grass
17:58 marktraceur Ooh, that would be tough.
17:58 PilzAdam marktraceur, not with fire:basic_flame because rl:needle has not flammable group ;-)
17:59 marktraceur Zetetic: I can't imagine it would be a very useful needle, though. So I somehow doubt anyone would be looking for it.
17:59 Zetetic marktraceur: Bamboo could make a usable needle
17:59 marktraceur Good point.
18:00 marktraceur But bamboo must be significantly different, in a chemical sense, than hay.
18:00 marktraceur er, from*
18:00 Zetetic I'm not sure how much is chemical and how much morphological though, given they are both grass
18:00 Zetetic I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I don't know
18:01 VanessaE fuck it.  easy solution:  burn it all to the ground with the strongest acid and hottest fire and go to the store to buy a new needle :-)
18:01 kaeza lol
18:01 Zetetic Ah, but the needle is a MacGuffin
18:01 Zetetic Or however I should spell that
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18:02 kaeza hey hohoho
18:02 hohoho lol hey kaeza
18:03 kaeza I'm here too MWAHAHAHAHa
18:03 hohoho I see
18:03 * hohoho places kitten on NekoGloop's head
18:03 hohoho sorry had to do it
18:04 hohoho so how's everything everyone?
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18:04 VanessaE hi.
18:04 hohoho hey VanessaE
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18:07 * NekoGloop purrs
18:10 kaeza "kaeza  once roundhouse kicked someone so hard that his foot broke the speed of light, went back in time, and killed Amelia Earhart while she was flying over the Pacific Ocean."
18:10 kaeza lol
18:11 NekoGloop stop injecting your username into Chuck Norris jokes
18:11 kaeza NekoGloop, that was moltenbot :)
18:11 NekoGloop !joke
18:11 NekoGloop oh, that actually does something
18:11 NekoGloop "NekoGloop  knows everything there is to know - Except for the definition of mercy."
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18:12 NekoGloop If that aint wrong as hell idk what is.
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18:13 kaeza err...PHAIL?  "kaeza  can read from an input stream."
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18:15 Infinity_69 hi!
18:15 kaeza echo "$CHUCK_NORRIS_JOKE" | sed -e "s/Chuck Norris/$NICKNAME/g"
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18:16 kaeza hi Infinity_69
18:16 Infinity_69 ok, 1 down
18:16 Infinity_69 hi kaeza
18:16 Infinity_69 its me, Ragnar... o.|
18:16 Infinity_69 dont tell anyone! (0.|
18:17 NakedFury http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/16du8c/unifying_70_servers_within_a_central_lobby_system/
18:17 moltenbot NakedFury's link: Unifying 70 Servers within a Central Lobby System. Minecraft MMOs are now possible. (Imgur Album with Details) : Minecraft
18:17 kaeza ok I won't tell anyone that you are Ragnar ok?
18:17 babyface1031 hi
18:17 Infinity_69 ok!
18:17 Infinity_69 oops, is this the main channel?
18:17 Infinity_69 FFFFUUUUU!!!!!
18:17 kaeza hey babyface1031
18:17 thexyz Infinity_69: your joke is bad
18:17 babyface1031 hi kaeza  and yes Infinity_69
18:17 thexyz you should feel bad
18:18 Infinity_69 sorry thexyz
18:18 Infinity_69 :/
18:18 kaeza <BuzzLightyear> +q's ... +q's everywhere
18:21 Calinou kicks... kicks everywhere
18:24 rubenwardy minetest extensions could learn from this: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/?category=fun
18:24 moltenbot rubenwardy's link:
18:24 kaeza I made a simple launcher script for Minetest
18:24 NakedFury rubenwardy how?
18:25 Zeg9 kaeza, do you mean a launcher that downloads the game?
18:25 rubenwardy you know, http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/
18:25 kaeza It maintains a server list in a file and you can enter the servers using aliases instead of typing the server IP every time
18:25 RagnarLaud ruben1
18:25 RagnarLaud help me!
18:25 RagnarLaud give me the code again
18:25 RagnarLaud the one that echo's the account name or something
18:26 NakedFury you mean a better category system instead of always adding the word MOD for MOD RELEASES?
18:26 kaeza Zeg9, there's no GUI yet. it's a CLI program
18:26 rubenwardy $forum_user['username'];
18:26 kaeza I plan to add a PyGtk gui later
18:26 rubenwardy NakedFury: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/
18:26 kaeza Zeg9, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/mtlaunch.zip
18:27 RagnarLaud ok, thanks
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18:27 webdesigner97 hi :)
18:27 RagnarLaud hi webdesigner
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18:27 RagnarLaud hey go there
18:27 kaeza hey webdesigner97
18:27 RagnarLaud http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/index_new.html
18:27 RagnarLaud what do you think about the nav bar?
18:27 webdesigner97 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4417
18:27 moltenbot webdesigner97's link: [Poll] Remote server administration with PHP (Page 1) - Minetest-related projects - Minetest Forums
18:28 kaeza webdesigner97, +1
18:28 RagnarLaud yeah :d
18:28 RagnarLaud kaeza
18:28 webdesigner97 cool :)
18:28 RagnarLaud what do you think about my nav bar?
18:28 RagnarLaud thanks
18:28 rubenwardy +1
18:28 rubenwardy +1 for php
18:29 rubenwardy tool
18:29 NakedFury I like those categories rubenwardy.
18:29 kaeza webdesigner97, I'm also doing something like that but via IRC
18:29 kaeza well... not that advanced anyway :P
18:29 webdesigner97 ok, sounds cool :D
18:29 kaeza it just allows to remotely grant privs for now
18:30 webdesigner97 but i think priv-administration could be hard, cause the file with the privs is hard to parse :D
18:30 kaeza mine does so at runtime
18:30 Zeg9 webdesigner, do you mean the server accepts http requests ?
18:31 webdesigner97 i just have to parse the file, but i never did something like this....
18:31 Zeg9 or are you going to make a php script that actually connects to server?
18:32 webdesigner97 well, you have to be able to connect to your server with domain or IP. i never did something like this :/
18:33 Zeg9 Implementing the minetest protocol in php will be hard, but that would be great to have this
18:33 webdesigner97 yep....
18:33 webdesigner97 maybe it is possible to install mods from rubens modmanager?
18:33 celeron55 it would be great to make a new protocol on TCP
18:34 webdesigner97 oops mod-foum
18:34 celeron55 but nobody has time
18:34 webdesigner97 *forum
18:34 celeron55 or skills
18:34 webdesigner97 i never worked with protocols :/
18:34 marktraceur Ain't nobody got time for that.
18:34 Zeg9 celeron55, I was thinking about that too, but it would take some time to be done
18:34 celeron55 (if, on the other hand, somebody has; do it)
18:36 thexyz aww http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4415
18:36 moltenbot thexyz's link: [??]MDK [MDK] (Page 1) - Discussion in other languages - Minetest Forums
18:36 thexyz wtf?
18:36 webdesigner97 O.o
18:37 celeron55 oh japanese *throws through translator*
18:37 thexyz lol, sure, japanese
18:37 thexyz > A:Maybe、すぐに Minetest 取得
18:37 thexyz etc, etc..
18:38 celeron55 i wonder what he's exactly talking about
18:38 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4414
18:38 moltenbot thexyz's link: [Idea] MDK [MDK] (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
18:38 celeron55 minetest development kit? is he doing it or is he asking for it
18:39 PilzAdam there is an english version of this topic too
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18:41 thexyz what was the point of posting google-translated version of this topic?
18:42 Zeg9 I'll be back later
18:43 Calinou asking for it*
18:43 thexyz hm.. it seems minetest has some japanese users though http://www47.atwiki.jp/vipdentg/pages/167.html
18:43 thexyz despite having no unicode support
18:44 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbLyYl4YSRA&amp;feature=youtu.be
18:44 moltenbot harrison's link: Ready Or Not - YouTube
18:44 NekoGloop most know how to read romanized japanese in addition to kanji characters.
18:45 kaeza can somebody explain what does he mean by MDK?
18:45 thexyz minetest development kit
18:45 kaeza the google translation is too broken for my eyes :/
18:46 NekoGloop or the other type of japanese annotation which i cannot remember the name of for the life of me.
18:46 VanessaE shouldn't it have been Minetest SDK then?
18:46 webdesigner97 well, i think it's something you can use to create mods without any lua skills?
18:46 VanessaE MDK for some reason still brings to mind "mandrake" (nevermind that it hasn't existed as such for years)
18:47 rubenwardy (6:43:30 PM) thexyz: hm.. it seems minetest has some japanese users though http://www47.atwiki.jp/vipdentg/pages/167.html
18:48 rubenwardy my website has picked up quite a lot of them
18:48 rubenwardy 3 a weel
18:48 rubenwardy week
18:48 rubenwardy (out of 300 that is)
18:48 rubenwardy 380
18:48 thexyz that's not "a lot"
18:48 webdesigner97 (how many german visitors?) :D
18:49 rubenwardy 20 this week
18:50 rubenwardy 108 americans this week
18:50 webdesigner97 oh, ok :/
18:50 NakedFury well 3 of zero is a lot
18:50 webdesigner97 thx
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18:50 Infinity_69 hi
18:50 rubenwardy it is a lot compaired to africa
18:50 Infinity_69 ruben1
18:50 Infinity_69 comment on my website
18:50 Infinity_69 http://hvgaming.bugs3.com
18:50 rubenwardy 12 visits from japan, actually
18:51 NakedFury ragnar why the name change?
18:51 Infinity_69 cause im in a ghurry
18:51 Infinity_69 and i need to log in...
18:51 Infinity_69 -.-
18:51 Infinity_69 COMMENT :D
18:51 rubenwardy ragnar, this goes in the <body> not the <head>
18:51 rubenwardy <img src="http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/style/images/banner.png" width="100%" height="150">
18:51 rubenwardy <head> is only for <titles> <style> <metadata>, nothing else
18:52 rubenwardy no stuff that is visible on page
18:52 webdesigner97 i wondered about the same 5 min ago, ruben :D
18:52 Infinity_69 really?
18:52 Infinity_69 oh ok...
18:52 Infinity_69 Y U LOOKING @ MY SOURCE CODE?!
18:52 rubenwardy because i can
18:52 PilzAdam because everyone can
18:53 webdesigner97 :P
18:53 VanessaE because that's how HTML is supposed to be done.
18:53 PilzAdam and its not called source code
18:53 VanessaE and it isn't "source code:
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18:53 rubenwardy (you also have no </body> and </html> end tags)
18:53 VanessaE it's "markup".
18:53 Calinou <rubenwardy> (you also have no </body> and </html> end tags)
18:53 Calinou even IE accepts that
18:53 Calinou we're in 2013...
18:53 VanessaE Calinou: the w3c would clobber you for that assertion :-)
18:54 rubenwardy ragnar: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhvgaming.bugs3.com%2F&amp;charset=%28detect+automatically%29&amp;doctype=Inline&amp;group=0
18:54 FreeFull Only because browsers accept something doesn't mean it's a good idea
18:54 FreeFull That already got us into a mighty mess before
18:54 webdesigner97 and the <script> should be in <head>
18:54 Infinity_69 SO WHAT?!
18:54 Infinity_69 [20:53] <rubenwardy> (you also have no </body> and </html> end tags)
18:54 Infinity_69 SO WHAT*
18:54 Infinity_69 :d
18:54 rubenwardy the <script> is added by the server
18:54 VanessaE Infinity_69: run all of your HTML through this service before publishing, please.  http://validator.w3.org/
18:54 VanessaE make your code standard-compliant.
18:55 Infinity_69 oh screw you... >:/
18:55 Infinity_69 xD
18:55 rubenwardy celeron55! http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=minetest.net&amp;charset=%28detect+automatically%29&amp;doctype=Inline&amp;group=0&amp;user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3
18:55 kaeza Infinity_69, if you want help, at least take note of the suggestions
18:55 Infinity_69 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com&amp;charset=%28detect+automatically%29&amp;doctype=Inline&amp;group=0&amp;user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3
18:55 Infinity_69 LOOK AT THIS
18:55 Infinity_69 Dont you DARE judge me -.-
18:55 rubenwardy we are not judging you
18:56 VanessaE Infinity_69: w3c is who makes the HTML standard.
18:56 VanessaE if they say it's wrong, IT'S WRONG.
18:56 Infinity_69 FACEBOOK IS MORE WRONG!
18:56 webdesigner97 -.-
18:56 VanessaE probablyu
18:56 Infinity_69 IT HAS 28 ERRORS
18:56 Infinity_69 :d
18:56 webdesigner97 you are not facebook
18:56 VanessaE but that doesn't mean you have to be equally wrong.
18:56 Infinity_69 STILL
18:56 VanessaE it means facebook needs to be more RIGHT.
18:57 Infinity_69 im 13, Zuckleberg is 20-30 something
18:57 Infinity_69 yeah
18:57 VanessaE so?
18:57 VanessaE I started coding when I was 12.
18:57 Infinity_69 zuckleberg is an idiot xD
18:57 Infinity_69 i started @ 8!
18:57 Infinity_69 html
18:57 Infinity_69 :D
18:57 kaeza I started at 5
18:57 VanessaE writing in HTML is not coding. :-)
18:57 Infinity_69 AS2/AS3 @ 10
18:57 Infinity_69 beat that!
18:58 rubenwardy starting younger does not make you a better coder
18:58 kaeza ActionScript? meh
18:58 webdesigner97 I started with PHP when i was 11
18:58 webdesigner97 oh, no sry, 12
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18:58 rubenwardy webdesigner97: me @ 11
18:58 VanessaE Infinity_69: perhaps I should qualify that:  started at 12 and have been coding for 26 years since then.
18:58 Infinity_69 ok :d
18:59 kaeza VanessaE said her age!!
18:59 Infinity_69 :d
18:59 Infinity_69 </publish>
18:59 Infinity_69 xD
18:59 webdesigner97 and I'm working with lua for, let's say 4 months now :D
18:59 VanessaE when I started, HTML didn't exist yet.
18:59 webdesigner97 :O
18:59 webdesigner97 wow
18:59 VanessaE (it came about some 4 years later)
18:59 * hohoho sneaks closer to the conversing humans =(o_o)=
19:00 VanessaE kaeza: yep.  I'm old. :-)
19:00 Infinity_69 LAWL
19:00 Infinity_69 VanessaE, how old?
19:00 VanessaE 38.
19:00 Infinity_69 o.o
19:00 Infinity_69 my dad is 39 :d
19:00 Infinity_69 wanna date him?
19:00 Infinity_69 :d
19:00 hohoho I made my first webpage in 2001
19:00 thexyz wtf
19:00 kaeza O_o
19:01 VanessaE no.  I'm married.
19:01 Infinity_69 oh...
19:01 Infinity_69 well he isnt
19:01 Infinity_69 xD
19:01 kaeza and I'm 24 so no
19:01 Infinity_69 well im 13 :D
19:01 * hohoho refuses to mention his age
19:01 webdesigner97 I'm 15 now
19:01 VanessaE So, now that we've established that I'm not full of shit:  Go run your HTML through the validator, fix it, then publish, and let facebook et.al be damned.
19:01 * hohoho notes kaeza knows my age
19:02 Infinity_69 how do i define a character encoding thing?
19:02 Infinity_69 <???>
19:02 VanessaE look it up. :-)
19:02 * kaeza has no memory of that
19:02 webdesigner97 :P
19:02 Infinity_69 i hate you... 0.0
19:02 kaeza :P
19:02 webdesigner97 :(
19:02 Infinity_69 hey WD97!
19:02 * hohoho looks at kaeza.. good
19:02 rubenwardy I'm 15 now
19:02 Infinity_69 help me!
19:02 Infinity_69 ruben help me!
19:02 Infinity_69 how do i define a character encoding thing?
19:02 Infinity_69 UTF-8
19:03 Infinity_69 <???>
19:03 thexyz <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
19:03 Infinity_69 thanks :D
19:03 thexyz or configure your webserver
19:03 Infinity_69 2 Errors, 1 warning(s)
19:03 Infinity_69 :D
19:03 Infinity_69 FAST AS HELL
19:03 hohoho print "Hello World"
19:03 * hohoho don't listen to me
19:04 rubenwardy what every you do, don't type "Google" into Google, you will break the internet!
19:04 webdesigner97 isn't a <meta> closed like <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />?
19:04 webdesigner97 just want to know :D
19:05 Infinity_69 how dafuq?
19:05 Infinity_69 why do i have 14 errors?
19:05 webdesigner97 <script> after </html>
19:05 webdesigner97 o.O
19:05 Infinity_69 1 ERROR >:D
19:06 Infinity_69 fuck it >:/
19:06 Minetest-tan GIT: doserj (Jürgen Doser) commited to celeron55/minetest: fixes node timer bug (fixes #407). 076f13cc01 2013-01-11T09:59:27-08:00 http://git.io/I1BbnA
19:06 Infinity_69 cant fix them
19:06 Infinity_69 idk how...
19:06 Infinity_69 :/
19:06 webdesigner97 put your meta inside <head></head>
19:07 Infinity_69 ok :/
19:07 webdesigner97 and all <scripts>
19:07 webdesigner97 *<script>
19:07 Infinity_69 OH I GIVE UP >:/
19:08 webdesigner97 omg, are you crazy?!
19:08 Infinity_69 1 ERROR TO 13 ERRORS
19:08 Infinity_69 WTF
19:08 webdesigner97 <php require_once('/include/php/login.php') ?>
19:08 webdesigner97 in download
19:08 VanessaE rubenwardy: Yo, dawg... I heard you like search engines, so I put a Yahoo into your Google so you can search while you search.
19:08 VanessaE (ow.)
19:08 webdesigner97 *minetest
19:08 Infinity_69 xD
19:08 rubenwardy Kaeza: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/help/tags.php
19:08 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Tags - Help - Minetest Extensions
19:08 Infinity_69 "They gave on a horse back to the ghetto...:
19:08 webdesigner97 so since when do we start a php script with <php ?!
19:09 kaeza rubenwardy, extended tags?
19:09 VanessaE also please do not use javascript, flash, java, or any other language if you don't truly need it.  Just fyi.
19:09 VanessaE pet peeve ^^^^^^^
19:09 kaeza rubenwardy, BTW one suggestion: use "tex" as abbrev for texture; "txt" is commonly used as abbrev of "text"
19:10 Zetetic And you never need Flash
19:10 VanessaE Zetetic: exactly.
19:10 VanessaE flash is overrated, insecure, slow, and not available on all platforms in a reliable fashion
19:10 thexyz Zetetic: no, you do
19:10 marktraceur VanessaE: Well, that ruins my best app ever. I run all of the server requests through an XP machine running the webserver in a Flash applet, routed there by a Node server, and use GWT (Java) for the frontend code.
19:10 Zetetic No, you don't :p
19:10 thexyz how about streaming 4k video?
19:10 Infinity_69 somebody help me clear the errors :/
19:10 Zetetic 4k?
19:11 thexyz https://plus.google.com/109378722004400250087/posts/ZKDtXSHCTFM
19:11 moltenbot thexyz's link: Gerd Hilgemann - Google+ - i finshed a real 4k (3840x2160) streaming demo, made with...
19:11 * hohoho includes a javascript laden page for VanessaEs enjoyment
19:11 Zetetic <video>?
19:11 VanessaE marktraceur: you make Tim Berners-Lee cry. :-)
19:11 thexyz nope!
19:11 Infinity_69 OR ELSE ILL GIVE UP >:o
19:11 marktraceur VanessaE: Indirectly, that's true
19:11 hohoho I side with VanessaE when it comes to javascript and similar
19:11 Infinity_69 The link attribute on the body element is obsolete
19:11 Infinity_69 WTF
19:11 hohoho K.I.S.S.
19:11 Infinity_69 Kick Indie's Shitty Shit
19:11 Infinity_69 ?
19:12 webdesigner97 you should just read html tutorials -.-
19:12 Infinity_69 NO
19:12 thexyz almost
19:12 Infinity_69 Kick Indias Shitty Shit
19:12 Infinity_69 :D
19:12 webdesigner97 http://html.net
19:12 moltenbot webdesigner97's link: Free tutorials on HTML, CSS and PHP - Build your own website - HTML.net
19:12 thexyz keep it simple, stupid
19:12 Infinity_69 was kicked by VanessaE: kick infinity's stupid shit.
19:12 Zetetic I still don't see the appeal of PHP
19:12 rubenwardy http://pastebin.com/0S2KgVWY
19:12 VanessaE :)
19:12 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [HTML] Ragner Website - Pastebin.com
19:12 rubenwardy see the css there
19:12 kaeza ^_^
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19:12 Infinity_69 oh... >:o
19:13 rubenwardy a {  ...   }
19:13 kaeza rubenwardy, external CSS plz :)
19:13 Infinity_69 so thats the game were gonna play, arent we? >:o
19:13 kaeza woops
19:13 NakedFury keep it civil, pg language
19:13 thexyz php is evil, AVOID
19:13 kaeza Infinity_69, ^^
19:13 rubenwardy #leftMenu > details{      ???
19:13 rubenwardy what is the >
19:13 Infinity_69 K.K.S.S
19:13 thexyz rubenwardy: read css specs
19:13 Infinity_69 its the navBar
19:14 Zetetic Should be using Lisp for HTML generation really
19:14 * Zetetic wanders off
19:14 rubenwardy i only ever use #leftMenu details{
19:14 kaeza LISP???
19:14 Infinity_69 ?
19:14 Infinity_69 oh, and i didnt put those spaces...
19:14 VanessaE you wanna see proper use of HTML, CSS, and Javascript for what they should be used for?  look at my website.  Yeah, it looks like a reject from 1995, but that doesn't mean the code isn't any good.  My web design skills just suck.
19:14 Infinity_69 they come with the net2ftp
19:14 thexyz rubenwardy: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/selector.html section 5.6
19:14 moltenbot thexyz's link: Selectors
19:14 thexyz lisp!
19:15 rubenwardy > only works for first child, then?
19:16 Infinity_69 how do i define alink, vlink & link in CSS?
19:16 webdesigner97 a:hover
19:16 webdesigner97 a:visited
19:16 Infinity_69 ???
19:16 webdesigner97 a:link
19:16 Infinity_69 oh
19:16 marktraceur a:active
19:16 Infinity_69 thanks
19:16 webdesigner97 and active, yep. thx
19:16 rubenwardy do you want them all to be the same color?
19:16 marktraceur Or maybe it's click?
19:16 webdesigner97 ok, gtg now. bye :)
19:16 Infinity_69 Stray end tag html.
19:17 Infinity_69 what?
19:17 kaeza bye
19:17 rubenwardy if so then use
19:17 rubenwardy a {
19:17 rubenwardy color: #FFFFFF;
19:17 rubenwardy }
19:17 webdesigner97 no it's a:active
19:17 hohoho vanessae.. site link?
19:18 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/index-van.html
19:18 VanessaE (I still need to weed out the links for the dead storefront)
19:18 Infinity_69 hey!
19:18 hohoho ..Yeah, it looks like a reject from 1995...
19:19 Infinity_69 Stray end tag html.
19:19 Infinity_69 what does it mean?
19:19 VanessaE hohoho: I warned you. :-)
19:19 hohoho looks good to me vanessae
19:19 hohoho I like "simple"
19:19 hohoho I kinda miss the old style sites
19:19 hohoho lol
19:19 Infinity_69 ruben
19:19 Infinity_69 Stray end tag html.
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19:19 Infinity_69 what?
19:19 rubenwardy urgh...  times new roman
19:19 Infinity_69 ???
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19:20 rubenwardy Infinity_69: it is because serversfree adds a script to the bottom the page
19:20 rubenwardy add
19:20 VanessaE rubenwardy: actually I believe the font face is not set.
19:20 Infinity_69 oh
19:20 VanessaE so whatever your browser uses by default/
19:20 Infinity_69 so i cant help it?
19:20 rubenwardy <?php
19:20 rubenwardy die("");
19:20 rubenwardy ?>
19:20 rubenwardy to the bottom of the page
19:21 rubenwardy and php or html below die(""); will not be run
19:33 mauvebic tax dollars at work: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/fed-agency-retracts-reprimand-flatulent-worker lol
19:33 moltenbot mauvebic's link: Fed agency retracts reprimand to flatulent worker
19:33 hohoho lol
19:33 rubenwardy I hate it when mod makers do not use github or similar sites
19:34 hohoho why not rubenwardy?
19:34 mauvebic when they do a version in plain french or english ill use it :p
19:34 hohoho I meant why do you hate it when a mod developer doesn't use a site like github?
19:35 * hohoho doesn't use github for his mods and has no current reason to
19:35 * marktraceur uses gitorious, presumably that counts as "similar sites"
19:35 Calinou github ftw (minus the proprietary side)
19:35 * kaeza likes cake
19:35 hohoho gitorious sounds dirty
19:35 kaeza </random>
19:37 hohoho I presume github like sites may be useful if a mod is developed by multiple users
19:37 hohoho otherwise seems overkill to me
19:38 mauvebic people tend to contribute more for the engine and fork for mods
19:38 marktraceur hohoho: It's also useful to provide history and nice-ish documentation
19:39 mauvebic well even minetest has a readme file like any other archive
19:39 hohoho marktraceur I thought that's what README and VERSION files were for
19:39 hohoho lol
19:39 Calinou hohoho: that keeps history of the mod, and wiki, and issue tracker
19:39 marktraceur hohoho: Not to mention the ability to work on multiple things at once without too much disk space
19:39 Calinou and easier updates (useful for server owners)
19:40 Infinity_69 Calinou, http://hvgaming.bugs3.com
19:40 Infinity_69 what do you think?
19:40 thexyz buy me new eyes
19:40 mauvebic might be simpler if we didn't have matching mod threads with simultaneous bug reports coming from there lol
19:40 mauvebic and maintaining the habit of updating both at the same time lol
19:41 sfan5 Calinou: what did you mean with "Spotted" yesterday?
19:41 thexyz Infinity_69: your menu is not semantic enough
19:42 rubenwardy (7:37:15 PM) hohoho: I presume github like sites may be useful if a mod is developed by multiple users
19:42 rubenwardy download is much more efficant
19:42 Infinity_69 semathic?
19:42 rubenwardy efficent
19:42 thexyz menus are usually made with <ul> <li> tags
19:42 Infinity_69 so?!
19:42 Infinity_69 this isnt
19:42 Infinity_69 ANd
19:42 Infinity_69 i learned this from Adam Khoury
19:42 Infinity_69 you are NOT better than him </brotha>
19:42 Calinou sfan5: on minecraft wiki
19:43 sfan5 what did you spot?
19:43 Infinity_69 7 Errors, 4 warning(s)
19:43 Infinity_69 ruben!
19:43 Calinou sfan5: you
19:43 Infinity_69 EARLIER THERE WERE 4 ERRORS!
19:43 rubenwardy it is better
19:43 Calinou you made an activator rail GIF
19:43 Calinou validator is so 2010
19:43 Calinou real men use real browsers
19:43 Calinou real_browsers = "chromium",
19:43 thexyz real men use XHTML
19:43 sfan5 Calinou: ik I'm relatively active on mcwiki
19:43 Infinity_69 i use Chromium!
19:44 Infinity_69 :')
19:44 Infinity_69 He's Dead, Jim!
19:44 sfan5 Calinou: you can also find sfan5 on steam
19:44 thexyz like irc.minetest.ru does
19:44 Calinou XHTML is stricter for no reason, and it's dead now
19:44 sfan5 thexyz: \o/
19:44 Calinou HTML5 killed it
19:44 Infinity_69 :D
19:45 Infinity_69 WAIT NO
19:45 Infinity_69 MY WEBSITE USES HTML5 AND IT DOESNT KILL IT
19:45 Infinity_69 >:o
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19:45 rubenwardy HTML5 made XHTML obsolete
19:45 Infinity_69 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fmulta.bugs3.com%2F&amp;charset=%28detect+automatically%29&amp;doctype=Inline&amp;group=0&amp;user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3
19:45 Infinity_69 RUBEN!
19:45 Infinity_69 LOOK
19:45 Infinity_69 xD
19:45 Calinou because real browsers now exist
19:45 rubenwardy (unnecessary)
19:46 rubenwardy that is a generated website
19:46 Infinity_69 (TOTALLY necessary)
19:46 Infinity_69 so?!
19:46 Infinity_69 WAIT WHAT >D
19:46 Infinity_69 I DO MINE IN HTML WITH NOTEPAD++
19:46 Infinity_69 xD
19:46 Calinou notepad++--
19:46 Infinity_69 YOU, Rubenwardy, ARE N00B
19:46 rubenwardy obsolete =  (unnecessary)
19:46 Calinou that's for windows...
19:46 rubenwardy (hypocryte)
19:46 Infinity_69 i use wine
19:46 thexyz TOO MUCH CAPS
19:46 Calinou lol?
19:46 Infinity_69 i know :D
19:46 Calinou you're using wine for a text editor?
19:47 rubenwardy I used this to make it: http://www.serif.com/webplus/
19:47 Calinou why not use a native program like geany
19:47 Infinity_69 yes :)
19:47 thexyz Calinou: some people *do* use np++ via wine
19:47 rubenwardy before I learnt how to make "real" websites
19:47 thexyz or vim
19:47 thexyz or emacs
19:47 Calinou or nano
19:47 thexyz or ed
19:47 rubenwardy that website is like 3 years old
19:47 Calinou or cat
19:47 thexyz or butterflies
19:47 kaeza lol cat
19:47 Calinou or dd
19:47 Infinity_69 cause NP++ isnt my only wine program
19:47 Infinity_69 Cstrike 1.6 too
19:47 Infinity_69 :)
19:47 kaeza CS 1.6?
19:47 Calinou lolCS
19:47 kaeza meh
19:47 Infinity_69 and MacroMedia Flash MX 2004
19:47 thexyz http://xkcd.com/378/
19:47 moltenbot thexyz's link: xkcd: Real Programmers
19:48 Calinou both CS 1.6 and CSS suck
19:48 Infinity_69 NO
19:48 Infinity_69 ok kinda do...
19:48 Infinity_69 CS:GO FTW
19:48 ruskie lol
19:48 Infinity_69 :')
19:48 thexyz cascading style sheets does not suck
19:48 Infinity_69 gMod FTW2
19:48 Infinity_69 :d
19:48 ruskie ftl ftw
19:48 Infinity_69 ftl?
19:48 Infinity_69 FUCK IE(
19:48 Infinity_69 IE9*(
19:48 Calinou CS:GO still has cheaters and is paid and proprietary :P
19:49 Infinity_69 so?1
19:49 Calinou real men play FOSS games, support them
19:49 Infinity_69 NOPE!
19:49 thexyz real men do not play games
19:49 ruskie they make them
19:49 Infinity_69 i can cheat on MineTest with CHEAT ENGINE!
19:49 thexyz admit it
19:50 Infinity_69 0.1% security?
19:50 Calinou just edit the source code, cheat engine is for employees of corporations that make RAM
19:50 ruskie Infinity_69, as for FTL look it up
19:50 kaeza real men were real men, until Chuck Norris roundhouse kicked 'em
19:50 Infinity_69 !g ftl
19:50 Minetest-tan Infinity_69: http://www.ftlgame.com/
19:50 STHGOM can there be a player_sparky.blend for 4.4?
19:51 kaeza npe
19:51 kaeza nope*
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19:54 Zeg9 Hi !
19:54 kaeza hey
19:55 STHGOM hi zeg
19:56 rubenwardy can someone give me a link to a free code editor for windows? (I have context, but its tabs are weird, and does not support LUA)
19:56 rubenwardy (for HTML, LUA, PHP, CSS, JS)
19:56 rubenwardy LUA Syntax
19:56 rubenwardy ing
19:56 Zetetic Emacs
19:56 john_minetest rubenwardy: Notepad++ should work
19:56 Zetetic Probably has support for all that stuff
19:56 kaeza rubenwardy, Geany
19:56 NakedFury geany, notepad++
19:56 kaeza or jEdit ;)
19:56 john_minetest Zetetic: emacs is unix
19:56 thexyz rubenwardy: vim
19:57 Zetetic john_minetest: I'm using Emacs on Windows right now
19:57 kaeza screw vim
19:57 kizeren kwrite
19:57 kaeza copy con file.lua ^_^
19:58 thexyz kaeza: ?
19:58 john_minetest Zetetic: emacs is an operating system. Nearly. It only needs an easy-to-use text editor to  be a real OS.
19:58 john_minetest ;)
19:58 kaeza thexyz, Win version of cat
19:58 thexyz kaeza: no, >screw vim
19:58 kaeza s/Win/cmd.exe/
19:58 kaeza I don't like it
19:58 thexyz why?
19:59 kaeza bad experiences, mostly locking my comp
19:59 thexyz btw, rubenwardy, try this one http://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/
19:59 moltenbot thexyz's link: PHP IDE :: JetBrains PhpStorm
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19:59 thexyz if you want an IDE
20:00 * Jordach is back from playing Dead Rising 2
20:01 rubenwardy does phpstorm do html, and other stuff?
20:02 thexyz aww, open that page
20:02 thexyz >Note: PhpStorm includes all the functionality of WebStorm (HTML/CSS Editor, JavaScript Editor) and adds full-fledged support for PHP
20:02 thexyz well, I personally have never used that one
20:02 rubenwardy I download it
20:02 thexyz but pycharm is nice
20:03 rubenwardy gtg
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20:04 kaeza rubenwardy, or use LuaIDE on Wine
20:04 kaeza oh
20:04 kaeza gone
20:05 kaeza oh wait, he was using win
20:05 kaeza so nvm
20:05 * Jordach notices that the middle mouse button is dying on this mouse
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20:06 STHGOM hello
20:06 PilzAdam does the button loose its functionality or have you added a function to MT that kills you when middleclick?
20:07 kosnick hey guys, first time in minetest, do i need to register somewhere for the servers mentioned in http://servers.minetest.ru  ??
20:07 PilzAdam kosnick, no
20:07 kosnick any reason i cant "get in"?
20:08 PilzAdam what server do you try?
20:08 kosnick minetest.ru , i am answered "your clients version is not supported"
20:09 PilzAdam what version of Minetest do you use
20:09 kosnick thats why
20:09 kosnick the one ubuntu has, PROTOCOL_VERSION 3
20:09 PilzAdam (it is written in the upper right corner)
20:09 kaeza nonono
20:09 PilzAdam *left
20:10 thexyz kosnick: minetest.ru uses fairly old version of minetest
20:10 PilzAdam the ubuntu version is heavily outdated
20:10 thexyz 02fb912a955c9e5baa86ecd4206eefaa88f3e60a, that is
20:10 kaeza somebody has to tell whoever maintains the ubuntu package to update it
20:10 kosnick nope, there is no version number on the upper left corner, or i can't see it
20:10 thexyz kosnick: http://minetest.ru/blog/68.html
20:10 moltenbot thexyz's link: ??? ?????? ?????? / Blog by xyz / ??????? ?????? Minetest
20:11 thexyz awesome, moltenbot
20:11 PilzAdam the version in the ubuntu repos is 0.3.1 and we currently have 0.4.4
20:11 kosnick is there any server compatible with my version? i would like to try minetest
20:11 thexyz I think that no
20:11 PilzAdam you can start a singleplayer game
20:11 kaeza kosnick, why not update?
20:11 thexyz nobody uses 0.3.x
20:12 Zeg9 kosnick, you should use the ppa if you don't want to compile
20:12 PilzAdam (leave adress field empty)
20:12 kosnick but in singleplayer, are there "enemies" or whatever?
20:12 thexyz kosnick: no
20:12 kaeza yes
20:12 thexyz (in 0.4.x)
20:12 PilzAdam kosnick, yes
20:12 NakedFury updating to the newest version is your best option right now kosnick
20:12 NakedFury no enemies or monsters yet
20:12 kosnick haha , yes i guess it s the best option
20:12 PilzAdam in 0.3 there are mobs
20:13 Zeg9 kosnick: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+packages
20:13 moltenbot Zeg9's link: Packages in "Stable Releases" : Stable Releases : Code : "Minetest Developers" team
20:13 kosnick ok, thank you all for your time bye
20:13 PilzAdam I have to say that compiling is extremly easy
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20:23 sapier celeron is there any chance a option enabling entities to automatic face movement direction is added?
20:27 STHGOM bye for now
20:31 kaeza WTF is this? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4408
20:31 moltenbot kaeza's link: [Indie] Indie Development Company - Indie Force [Submit] (Page 1) - Offtopic - Minetest Forums
20:32 marktraceur It appears to be a forum post
20:33 kaeza thanks marktraceur for pointing the obvious lol
20:33 marktraceur You're welcome!
20:33 kaeza :P
20:34 kaeza marktraceur, BTW, may I have your opinion on this? https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc/blob/master/doc/API.txt
20:34 moltenbot kaeza's link: minetest-irc/doc/API.txt at master ? kaeza/minetest-irc ? GitHub
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20:34 marktraceur Good stuff
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20:38 kaeza the basic idea is for other mods to be able to send messages to IRC. for example, the protector mod could say "User johndoe1234 tried to remove a block at (X,Y,Z)"
20:38 kaeza and send it to the admin
20:39 marktraceur Good plan
20:39 marktraceur "User marktraceur purchased 30 default:gold_ingot at (X,Y,Z)"
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20:40 marktraceur kaeza: I like it!
20:41 kaeza thx :)
20:41 kaeza but I think more useful would be the remote admin interface
20:44 marktraceur Yup
20:44 marktraceur I still need to get that installed
20:44 NakedFury how would that work?
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20:45 kaeza NakedFury, ability to grant/remove privs via bot commands
20:46 NakedFury inside game or outside?
20:46 marktraceur From IRC
20:46 marktraceur It would be very helpful for me especially, I run a server that requires people to ask for interact, and I can't do it without logging in right now
20:46 NakedFury I would like time based priviledges and possibly granting priviledges from signs or special blocks.
20:46 marktraceur Doing it from IRC is sooooo much better
20:47 marktraceur NakedFury: Complete a maze to get interact privileges? :)
20:47 NakedFury extreme but good example
20:48 marktraceur Maybe a really rare block that gives you fly for a limited time?
20:48 NakedFury timed priviledges would be for that
20:48 NakedFury a player is doing a really good building that is high so you grant him some flying time
20:48 marktraceur *nod*
20:48 marktraceur Good plan.
20:49 NakedFury could be real time or game time
20:51 NakedFury then making a tutorial area and at the end including a sign saying right click or punch for interact
20:51 marktraceur Reminder: In one week, a documentation sprint will happen in #minetest-doc. We'll be trying to lower the barrier for entry to core development, and any help would be appreciated. http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4243 has the details.
20:51 moltenbot marktraceur's link: Documentation sprint, 2013-01-19, in #minetest-doc (Page 1) - Unofficial engine development - Minetest Forums
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20:53 NakedFury waiting for it
20:53 mauvebic sweet, from over 2K lines to 1500, finally getting somewhere lol
20:54 NakedFury in what?
20:54 mauvebic mbbase
20:54 mauvebic its got all my helper functions for every other mod i write lol
20:55 mauvebic was also taking forever to download/loadgame lately
20:56 NakedFury do you have different permissions on the guns mod?
20:57 mauvebic they're all locked to server priv now :-)
20:57 mauvebic until i can upgrade to a version that doesnt have the attach bug, id rather not multiple users use terrain guns at the same time lol
20:58 Jordach hehehehe
20:58 Jordach is the server open atm?
20:58 mauvebic wrong port lemme restart
20:58 Jordach !up mauvebic.strangled.net
20:58 moltenbot Minetest server mauvebic.strangled.net:30000 DOWN
20:58 Minetest-tan Jordach: mauvebic.strangled.net seems to be down
20:59 Jordach mauvebic, cheers
21:00 * Jordach noticed that four torrents downloading at 500kb each are faster than minetest's method...
21:01 Jordach ..and stuck at waiting content...bitch
21:02 mauvebic there's gotta be a simple way to compress/decompress media on the server/client side
21:02 Jordach use zlib properly :P
21:02 mauvebic dont tell me that, im not the cpp guru lol
21:04 Jordach huh
21:04 Jordach the media is going much faster now
21:04 mauvebic i did some spring cleaning yesterday
21:04 Jordach sweet
21:04 kaeza mauvebic, PNG files are already compressed
21:04 mauvebic lots of retired textures still hanging around in the textures folders
21:04 Jordach mauvebic, kill them with fire
21:04 mauvebic old sound clips too lol
21:05 kaeza there wouldn't be much gain in recompressing them
21:06 mauvebic yeah i know the players are oversized in the ships lol
21:07 mauvebic it seems like player attach makes the player adopt the visual scale of the intentity, dont know if bug or intentional
21:09 Jordach and there you have it: http://imgur.com/a/a1N48
21:09 moltenbot Jordach's link:             Photo Album - Imgur
21:10 NakedFury someone else would say what that looks like
21:10 NakedFury but not me
21:10 mauvebic lol
21:10 mauvebic its abit low
21:10 mauvebic but is that a bug?
21:11 NakedFury maybe
21:11 NakedFury yeah I would think so
21:12 mauvebic 3rd one i find this month :p
21:12 NakedFury keep finding them. all the ones I experience are documented already
21:12 mauvebic rba fixed the first so i didn't have to file anything
21:12 VanessaE there.  now my site has a half-ass section for Minetest :-)
21:13 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest.html
21:13 Jordach half-assed*
21:13 VanessaE no, see, it's so half-ass that even "assed" is too much :-)
21:14 * Jordach pats VanessaE on the back with a: bad joke
21:15 NekoGloop meow
21:15 Jordach i should really wire my rock band guitar into my pc and play midi tunes!
21:15 thexyz https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAV86OXCAAAEfhk.png
21:16 thexyz NekoGloop: ^
21:16 jojoa1997 is this how i make a new group
21:16 jojoa1997 minetest.register_group({spleef})
21:17 Jordach hey OldCoder
21:17 thexyz jojoa1997: read api docs
21:18 PilzAdam jojoa1997, no
21:18 jojoa1997 i did and ok
21:18 jojoa1997 thexyz:i did
21:18 jojoa1997 pilzadam:ok
21:19 mauvebic https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/419
21:19 moltenbot mauvebic's link: 3d player visual_scale changes on attach, uses the entity's visual_scale ? Issue #419 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
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21:24 * kaeza puts a random link on NekoGloop's head https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/154767_509600469061524_21928376_n.jpg
21:25 * jin_xi puts some resin between his ears
21:25 Oblivion1500 Hello everyone
21:25 kaeza hi
21:26 Oblivion1500 can someone help me with github, i made a repo but its not showing up on github... its saying its there and i did a comit and it says its there in the application but its not on the website
21:26 kaeza did you push?
21:27 Oblivion1500 explain how i would do that?
21:27 kaeza git push
21:27 kaeza after git commit
21:27 PilzAdam Oblivion1500, http://git-scm.com/book
21:27 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Git - Book
21:29 Oblivion1500 oh damn that was easy
21:29 Oblivion1500 thanks
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21:29 hohoho yea Oblivion1500 seems git is fairly easy once you get a grasp of how it works
21:29 * hohoho has been tinkering with git last hour
21:30 hohoho prior to such I was a total git n00b
21:30 PilzAdam git is a powerfull tool wich makes it easy to handle multiple branches
21:31 mauvebic nakedfury ill be updating terrain guns today too, gonna add all the shapes
21:31 mauvebic http://i.imgflip.com/1bh9.jpg
21:31 NakedFury eggcelent news
21:32 mauvebic actually im splitting off shapes from multinode as a seperate lib to be used by both mods and others
21:32 mauvebic (by nc)
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21:33 jojoa1997_ where is the application in the current github
21:33 jojoa1997_ for minetest
21:34 mauvebic ?
21:34 jojoa1997_ it used to be in the bin folder
21:34 mauvebic inquiry not recognised, please restate command
21:34 NakedFury having them in a separate libraby better?
21:34 PilzAdam the github repo only contains the sourcecode
21:34 PilzAdam ^ jojoa1997_
21:34 jojoa1997_ how do i start minetest with the current version(github version)
21:35 PilzAdam you need to compile it yourself
21:35 PilzAdam (see README)
21:35 mauvebic nakedfury yeah because i dont have to write 1x each mod
21:36 mauvebic and the shapes will be easily usable by any mod for a variety of purposes
21:36 mauvebic my asteroidgen, among others
21:37 NakedFury would that also make it faster?
21:37 mauvebic yeah because i dont have seperate copies ofthe same functions loading in multinode, then terrain guns, then asteroid gen lol
21:38 mauvebic like pilzadam's flat mapgen, will come in handy with the guns
21:39 NakedFury can a water level raising mod be made?
21:39 NakedFury with commands, could help for water world mod
21:40 mauvebic i have a water equalization chat command that works at y<=0
21:40 mauvebic to raise the water level ill use the code jordach sent me so that its done on mapgen and not after
21:43 hohoho mauvebic.. are you the one who did the mod here? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1644
21:43 moltenbot hohoho's link: A real, universal replicator [0.12] [new industrial model] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
21:43 mauvebic i wrote that mod when the horseless carriage was becoming popular yes
21:44 hohoho lol what's the license?
21:44 mauvebic that old crap? wtfpl lol
21:44 hohoho k I have modded it to work with latest and was thinking of releasing the updated version. had to ensure was ok
21:45 mauvebic go ahead
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21:45 mauvebic i never really saw a purpose to it though
21:45 mauvebic with /givemes, creative
21:45 mauvebic if users dont have access to those things the admin prolly dont want them pulling nodes out of their arse lol
21:45 hohoho well I liked it because one could use it in a space colony theme (my original use for it)
21:46 hohoho my first use of it was in the original marstest that I never released
21:46 mauvebic i have a market mod that works for that too
21:46 hohoho theme being the world is set on mars and you have limited resources and must colonize mars
21:46 mauvebic it sells unlimited quantities
21:47 mauvebic though it never sells more than was bought (balance)
21:49 Kacey hohoho can i have a copy of marstest?
21:49 hohoho the latest is on the forum
21:49 hohoho though its rough
21:49 hohoho I lost the original marstest
21:49 Kacey k i will look it up later
21:49 mauvebic i was also thinking about chemistry and transmutation but that would prolly be a bigger undertaking than pipeworks lol
21:49 hohoho http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4046
21:49 moltenbot hohoho's link: Marstest V1 (modpack and world and maybe future fork?) (Page 1) - Minetest-related projects - Minetest Forums
21:52 mauvebic a decent full chemistry mod would solve the problem of alot of crafts not making any sense at all lol
21:53 NakedFury full metal alchemist style or the minecraft mod?
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21:55 mauvebic not sure of the difference dont know the MC mod
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21:59 NakedFury http://equivalentexchange.wikispaces.com/
22:01 kaeza mauvebic, I like that idea
22:01 kaeza about the chemistry
22:01 kaeza +mod
22:02 mauvebic well the notion behind a chemistry mod is you wouldn't need more than 1 dependency for crafting ingrediants, you'd have all the elements in one place
22:03 mauvebic i mean, if i need plastic, i should be able to get some without installing a nature or flower pack along
22:04 Jordach we need unifiedcraftingitems
22:04 mauvebic ... chemistry? lol all the elements
22:04 Jordach oh yes, and let LandMine run around with plutonium
22:04 mauvebic start with the solids then move on to liquids and gasses
22:04 Jordach thats a "great" idea
22:05 NakedFury I like how we moved from More to Unified in mod titles
22:05 Kacey /join ##xbox
22:05 Kacey haha fail
22:05 mauvebic "great" ? lol
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22:06 mauvebic i think for transmutation you'd need a mese-power proton collider?
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22:07 NakedFury go medieval. yesterday someone was talking about how everything is so high tech
22:07 mauvebic my wife wants me to make a wooden version of pipeworks along with mills and those water turning wheel thingies
22:07 NakedFury yes I want that too
22:08 kaeza mauvebic, and at last, you could craft water sources with 2 hydrogens and an Oxygen :)
22:08 NakedFury low tech versions wood or copper pipes, water mills
22:08 leo_rockway water mills sounds like fun
22:09 mauvebic milling is definate plan because i already have the wheat in plantlib
22:09 NakedFury http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZFhV6bKvQM
22:09 moltenbot NakedFury's link: Minecraft Better Than Wolves: Water Wheels + Mill Stones - YouTube
22:10 mauvebic if a mob mod has horses then you could mill oats too
22:10 kaeza we also need to normalize a bit the HP restoration by food items
22:10 NakedFury a really really complete agricultural mod could be possible
22:11 NakedFury that youtube video is what your wife wants
22:11 mauvebic i plan an adding as many plants as possible to plantlib (edible)
22:11 kaeza I mean, what's the point in taking all the effort to make a cake that restores 8 HP when a simple apple restores 4 HP=
22:11 kaeza ?
22:12 mauvebic well the pvp or survival concept hasnt been extensively developped
22:12 mauvebic how much HP to lose in a battle vs how much HP to loose over time
22:12 mauvebic its important that players neither die instantly nor take forever to kill
22:13 kaeza I believe we should deviate from the Minecraftish hearts and implement something like a health bar or something
22:13 mauvebic and the food healing should be proportional to how much people usually grow for themselves and how fast they can renew crops
22:13 mauvebic you can have a health bar
22:13 sapier does anyone have experience with on_leaveplayer?
22:13 mauvebic change the hearts png to green squares
22:13 kaeza also, 20 HP as max does not leave much flexibility
22:14 mauvebic is that set in the engine?
22:14 kaeza dunno
22:14 kaeza hmm
22:14 mauvebic submit a patch to set it for 100
22:14 Zetetic What's the engine in?
22:14 Zetetic C?
22:14 mauvebic cpp
22:15 NakedFury ++
22:15 kaeza C++
22:15 Zetetic K
22:15 Zetetic Danke :)
22:15 mauvebic gracias
22:15 NakedFury de nada
22:15 mauvebic lol
22:16 jojoa1997_ thexyz:where is the config file in your latest build http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4420
22:16 moltenbot jojoa1997_'s link: 3d Armor - need help! (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
22:16 jojoa1997_ oops wrong link
22:16 jojoa1997_ http://minetest.ru/builds/minetest-2013.01.08-8eb717d4d0.zip
22:16 jojoa1997_ that one
22:17 NakedFury I owuld prefer 100hp over the very limited 20 we have now
22:17 NakedFury would
22:17 mauvebic i wish xfce had auto-tile
22:19 kaeza NakedFury, that would allow very flexible planning for damage and restoration
22:19 NakedFury yes
22:19 * Zetetic thinks it should be 255
22:19 Zetetic But not or any hugely good reason
22:19 NakedFury well a bigger number would allow for better weapon and food(HP) system
22:20 kaeza and maybe make max hp modifiable by lua
22:20 kaeza to make RPG-likemods
22:20 kaeza like mods*
22:20 mauvebic sleep = +50% natural heal rate
22:20 NakedFury another point is making it no be with hearts
22:20 Zetetic Yeah, settable would be cool, but 2ⁿ-1 seems a good maximum
22:21 mauvebic i dont care about the hearts, i replaced those with strips of bacon png
22:21 Socke woah, i just started mintest for the first time, this game needs some better textures!
22:21 kaeza mauvebic, yes, but the engine currently only draws either half a heart/bacon or a full image
22:21 NakedFury what I mean about the hearts is that damage or health would be in half or full hearts increments
22:21 NakedFury that sucks
22:22 thexyz jojoa1997_: minetest-2013.01.08-8eb717d4d0/minetest.conf
22:22 NakedFury currently we have a Zelda style damage system
22:22 kaeza a smooth health bar would be awesome
22:22 mauvebic custom hud's would be a bad idea, personally id like to have more than 8 tiles on the wheel
22:22 mauvebic *wouldn't
22:23 jojoa1997_ thexyz: it says it is an example file and the file has a bunch of #
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22:23 NakedFury I would like to have full 1-0 hotbar
22:24 mauvebic you could have buttons for various aspect instead of cramming it all in the inventory lol
22:24 NakedFury I for inventory, H for character[this includes equipment] this would open different windows and like you said stop cramming that window
22:25 kaeza NakedFury, that would be possible if MT supported reading keyboard state from lua
22:26 OldCoder Hi
22:26 kaeza hi OldCoder
22:26 OldCoder o/
22:26 mauvebic there could be a simple way to map unused keys to specific formspecs
22:26 kaeza \o
22:26 NakedFury take other rpgs examples. Usually C for character stats, I for bags/inventory, J for quests/logs/diaries k for skills
22:27 mauvebic m for map lol
22:27 NakedFury yes
22:27 mauvebic with so many mapper tools now we should all be able to include a map.png lol
22:27 kaeza FPSs: F for flashlight, Z for prone, etc etc
22:27 mauvebic or even have it served fresh
22:27 NakedFury shift = running ctrl crouching z prone v for voice commands etc
22:27 mauvebic naw dont further change the move settings
22:28 NakedFury was an example. but I would agree to leaving the inventory window be inventory only
22:28 Kacey brb switching computers
22:28 mauvebic cuz people start tinkering with that shit, then it never stops lol
22:28 NakedFury make new windows for added stuff
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22:31 NakedFury also adding keys 1 to 9 or 0 for the bar would not mean increasing inventory size
22:31 mauvebic hey if i can fit 12 squares on my screen then thats 12 i scroll with the mouse easily
22:32 NakedFury ohh using the scroll wheel is different but yes
22:33 mauvebic with like 500 nodes to choose from, you rarely finish a project with just 8 nodetypes
22:33 NakedFury minecraft creative has middle button clicking changes your held block
22:33 Kacey can i play xbox games on windows 8?
22:33 NakedFury with an emulator
22:34 NakedFury if there is one
22:34 marktraceur This isn't an Xbox support channel
22:34 mauvebic or the mousewheel could scroll through all 32 and the hud bar would adjust
22:34 jojoa1997_ i think we need dual hands
22:34 NakedFury 2 hands could open new possibilities
22:34 NakedFury flashlight or torch wielding
22:35 NakedFury sword+shield or 2 weapons
22:35 jojoa1997_ pick axe+shovel
22:35 NakedFury maybe even holding the tools with 2 hands for increase mining/shoveling/cutting speed
22:35 marktraceur NakedFury: -25% effectiveness for off-hand
22:35 jojoa1997_ pick+pick and press both buttons at once
22:35 NakedFury thats for rpg ish mods to do
22:35 jojoa1997_ have 2 mese picks lol
22:36 mauvebic unlikely
22:36 kaeza marktraceur, how can I push my minetest branch to my repo?
22:36 PilzAdam going to sleep; bye
22:37 thexyz jojoa1997_: you should create it, there's no minetest.conf in my builds
22:37 kaeza I mean, I cloned from c55/mt
22:37 thexyz .example one is example
22:37 marktraceur kaeza: git push origin <branchname>
22:37 kaeza but want to push to kaeza/mt
22:37 thexyz kaeza: add remote
22:37 thexyz then push to it
22:37 jojoa1997_ does anyone have an example of what the default is
22:37 kaeza ok
22:37 kaeza gonna try
22:37 marktraceur kaeza: Sorry, git push <remote> <branchname>
22:37 thexyz git remote add kaeza git@github.com:kaeza/minetest.git
22:37 jojoa1997_ cause i dont know all the stuff
22:37 thexyz then git push kaeza branchname
22:38 kaeza marktraceur, thexyz: thank you!
22:38 marktraceur jojoa1997_: There's a sample one in the source code
22:38 jojoa1997_ k
22:38 * kaeza is a git noob
22:38 thexyz then set that branch to track your remote, not origin
22:39 kaeza ok
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22:39 kaeza Permission denied (publickey).
22:40 NakedFury 2 hands could work for weapons, light objects, maybe increased mining speed for 2 hand holding tools and just for being different from other voxel games in this genre
22:40 * Oblivion1500 just figured out how to do this.... is an irc noob
22:40 thexyz git branch --set-upstream your_branch kaeza/your_branch
22:40 * Jordach needs a cup of tea
22:40 Jordach :P
22:40 thexyz kaeza: try ssh git@github.com
22:41 Jordach \o/
22:41 kaeza $ ssh git@github.com
22:41 kaeza Permission denied (publickey).
22:41 kaeza $ git branch --set-upstream master kaeza/master
22:41 kaeza fatal: Not a valid object name: 'kaeza/master'.
22:42 thexyz kaeza: you should add your public ssh key to your github profile
22:43 kaeza ok
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22:49 kaeza thexyz, thanks! I got it pushed. :)
22:51 Kacey joined #minetest
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22:51 Kacey back
22:56 kaeza_ joined #minetest
23:00 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIyXqBgFpFQ
23:00 moltenbot Kacey's link: Happiness and death coaster - YouTube
23:00 Kacey wow
23:00 Oblivion1500 https://github.com/languages/Lua/created
23:00 moltenbot Oblivion1500's link: Recently Created Lua Repositories ? GitHub
23:01 Oblivion1500 thats alot of work in the last 2 hours
23:01 * hohoho pokerface
23:02 sfan5[iPod] joined #minetest
23:05 hohoho brb
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23:08 TheZenKitteh back (was hohoho and is better known as RAPHAEL but couldn't remember password for RAPHAEL so created a new nick finally)
23:09 kaeza wb TheZenKitteh/RAPHAEL/hohoho :)
23:09 TheZenKitteh lol ty kaeza
23:10 TheZenKitteh finally decided I needed a registered nickname
23:12 TheZenKitteh youtube needs more minetest related videos
23:13 TheZenKitteh preferably showing off the various mods that exist to try to "lure" some new players
23:13 NekoGloop joined #minetest
23:13 NekoGloop My SNES emulator just crashed :D
23:13 marktraceur NekoGloop: Thanks for the update
23:13 xy joined #minetest
23:13 NekoGloop You're welcome. :D
23:13 TheZenKitteh lol sorry NekoGloop but you aren't only cat in here now
23:14 NekoGloop technically i never was
23:14 NekoGloop neko259.
23:14 TheZenKitteh lol rephrase.. sorry NekoGloop AND neko259 you are not the only catS in here
23:14 TheZenKitteh now*
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23:16 kaeza BTW I never saw that neko 259 say a word in here
23:16 NekoGloop Super Mario World is a very crashy game. (at least the way i play it ;))
23:16 NekoGloop kaeza: because when he does talk, it's later at night.
23:17 Muadtralk timezones ftw!
23:17 NekoGloop ikr
23:17 kaeza or for that matter half of the user list :)
23:18 kaeza seems somebody got offended...
23:18 kaeza sowwy!
23:19 marktraceur Hm?
23:20 NakedFury ew timezones they kill irc chat rooms. whoever invented should die
23:21 NekoGloop have fun killing God.
23:21 marktraceur NakedFury: Without timezones, you might not be able to get tech support 24/7!
23:21 marktraceur NekoGloop: Pretty sure time zones are a human thing, mate
23:21 NakedFury ew tech support
23:21 TheZenKitteh who needs tech support
23:22 NakedFury my mom hates them. a few weeks ago spent the entire day with tech support for the cell phone
23:22 TheZenKitteh just blindly keep hitting buttons till it works
23:22 TheZenKitteh lol
23:22 marktraceur Wow
23:22 TheZenKitteh is quicker than talking to tech support :P
23:22 NekoGloop TheZenKitteh: *Self Destruct Sequence activated*
23:23 NakedFury for Claro. they had not activated the new SIM card and it was messing stuff up
23:23 NakedFury took them 3 days to finally do it right
23:23 kaeza lol Claro
23:23 sapier great ... register_on_leaveplayer functions are only called multiplayer ... is noone playing singleplayer?
23:23 TheZenKitteh but really of the times I've been forced to call tech support I had to be "elevated" several times as I already did everything the first few agents wanted me to do
23:23 kaeza the guys at Claro are sh*theads
23:24 Zetetic Am I right in thinking there's no sane way to do tides?
23:24 NakedFury we play multiplayer for great company and interaction of other players
23:24 NakedFury I think tides would need source code editing and lots of it
23:25 TheZenKitteh you know NakedFury.. a tired dyslexic like myself might read your name as NakedFurry.. just sayin
23:25 NakedFury you dont have to be dyslexic to read it, people always misread it
23:25 NekoGloop That was in EsperNet's #minecraft's topic once.
23:25 TheZenKitteh I didn't.. till the first time after I saw your name and I was tired
23:25 kaeza Zetetic, I think somebody did something like that with shaders
23:26 Zetetic I might not know what shaders are then
23:26 kaeza can't recall who
23:26 NekoGloop Metroid Super Zero Mission, y u so hard.
23:26 Zetetic It would need to modify blocks but I can't think of a sane way to do so
23:26 kaeza NekoGloop, you don't know what 'hard' means until you play Nethack
23:27 NekoGloop I actually just downloaded that onto my ipad last night.
23:27 leo_rockway I went 5 floors down...
23:27 leo_rockway my record
23:27 NekoGloop havent played yet though.
23:27 kaeza I went no more than 3 I think
23:27 kaeza so much lack of food
23:27 leo_rockway kaeza: I was doing the sokoban and I found an ants nest... they ate me.
23:27 Zetetic leo_rockway: get confused, wear a ring or teleport control, read a scroll of teleport
23:28 Zetetic Teleport a long way down and get a high score with little skill :)
23:28 leo_rockway :D
23:28 kaeza ??? profit
23:28 leo_rockway lol
23:28 Zetetic Nah, you normally just die
23:28 NekoGloop Yeah but with Metroid Super Zero Mission (which is a hack of Super Metroid), I cant get the freakin varia suit.
23:28 Zetetic Because you end up in Hell
23:29 leo_rockway NekoGloop: I have zero mission. I love it.
23:29 * OldCoder will be back in a few minutes
23:29 leo_rockway for the GBA
23:29 NekoGloop Varia Suit requires me to get the Grapple Beam, which requires me to go through a heated Norfair room, which i die three seconds into.
23:29 NekoGloop leo_rockway: So do i
23:29 NekoGloop I also love Super Metroid.
23:29 kaeza NekoGloop, there should be other way
23:29 leo_rockway nethack is an amazing game, but SO frustrating.
23:29 NekoGloop However this game is just....
23:29 NekoGloop kaeza: you ever played it?
23:30 kaeza not Zero Mission
23:30 NekoGloop There is. It needs infinite bomb jump.
23:30 kaeza played Super and Fusion
23:30 NekoGloop kaeza: this is a hacked ROM of Super Metroid.
23:30 kaeza and the original Metroid :3
23:30 NekoGloop Made to be like Zero Mission while mixing with Super Metroid element.
23:30 leo_rockway I was playing the one for GC, beat a very difficult boss after a few tries... then got killed by a lowly enemy and my game didn't get saved
23:30 NekoGloop elements*
23:30 leo_rockway I stopped playing -.-
23:30 NekoGloop Prime was kinda meh.
23:30 NekoGloop Corruption was good.
23:31 NekoGloop havent played Hunters.
23:31 leo_rockway I also have the DS one.
23:31 leo_rockway not too good
23:31 NekoGloop Do note that the Primes arent made by nintendo.
23:31 leo_rockway I didn't know that.
23:32 NekoGloop They are made by Retro Studios.
23:32 Muadtralk !up zenoheld.minetest.net
23:32 Minetest-tan Muadtralk: zenoheld.minetest.net is up (0.338ms)
23:32 moltenbot Minetest server zenoheld.minetest.net:30000 UP
23:32 leo_rockway I thought zero and fusion for GBA were amazing.
23:32 Muadtralk perfect
23:32 NekoGloop leo_rockway: they are! :D
23:32 leo_rockway I still replay them every once in a while
23:32 Muadtralk !up zenoheld.minetest.net:30001
23:32 moltenbot Minetest server zenoheld.minetest.net:30001:30001 DOWN
23:32 Minetest-tan Muadtralk: zenoheld.minetest.net:30001 is up (0.311ms)
23:32 NekoGloop fusion is even fun after you beat it, because I hack in the ice beam!
23:32 Muadtralk minetest-tan wins!
23:33 Kacey haha bot arguement
23:33 Muadtralk sorry but moltenbot didnt have the guts
23:33 Muadtralk it messed up the port
23:33 marktraceur Hrm, I thought I asked the two bot authors to decide whose bot should respond to things.
23:34 Muadtralk obviously they ignored you
23:34 marktraceur Apparently.
23:34 NekoGloop moltenbot shouldnt do !up because it's shit at it
23:34 marktraceur Sounds fine to me
23:34 Muadtralk moltenbot responds more but minetest-tan gets things right
23:34 TheZenKitteh maybe they each decided their bot was god?
23:34 marktraceur Probably something like that.
23:34 * marktraceur will give them some more time
23:35 marktraceur sfan5|OFF: Please talk with iqualfragile (who is not online right now) at some point to determine the order of operations re: !up
23:36 Kacey !up minetest.org
23:36 Minetest-tan Kacey: minetest.org is up (0.291ms)
23:36 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org:30000 UP
23:36 TheZenKitteh how do the bots know of the servers? manually added?
23:37 sapier joined #minetest
23:37 NekoGloop they ping it
23:37 NekoGloop then do black magic to see if it's a minetest server.
23:38 TheZenKitteh so any domain?
23:38 Zetetic Don't they just check for open ports?
23:38 Muadtralk let me check that
23:38 TheZenKitteh !up google.com
23:38 moltenbot Minetest server google.com:30000 DOWN
23:38 Minetest-tan TheZenKitteh: google.com seems to be down
23:38 TheZenKitteh lol
23:38 Muadtralk !up zenoheld.minetest.net:5900
23:38 moltenbot Minetest server zenoheld.minetest.net:5900:5900 DOWN
23:38 Minetest-tan Muadtralk: zenoheld.minetest.net:5900 seems to be down
23:38 TheZenKitteh o noes google is down
23:38 Muadtralk yep
23:38 Zetetic !up google.com :80
23:38 moltenbot Minetest server google.com::80 DOWN
23:38 Minetest-tan Zetetic: google.com :80 seems to be down
23:38 Zetetic Apparently not
23:39 Muadtralk dont put spaces
23:39 Zetetic !up google.com:80
23:39 moltenbot Minetest server google.com:80:80 DOWN
23:39 Minetest-tan Zetetic: google.com:80 seems to be down
23:39 Zetetic Doesn't work
23:39 Muadtralk yep
23:39 Zetetic Oh, works with one of them
23:39 TheZenKitteh !up dtamedia.com:50000
23:39 moltenbot Minetest server dtamedia.com:50000:50000 DOWN
23:39 Minetest-tan TheZenKitteh: dtamedia.com:50000 seems to be down
23:39 marktraceur Why are we doing this.
23:39 TheZenKitteh !up onisamadojo.com:50000
23:39 moltenbot Minetest server onisamadojo.com:50000:50000 DOWN
23:39 Minetest-tan TheZenKitteh: onisamadojo.com:50000 seems to be down
23:39 TheZenKitteh lol
23:39 TheZenKitteh they aren't down
23:40 TheZenKitteh bots are failing
23:40 marktraceur TheZenKitteh: Then quit using them
23:40 Muadtralk just observing if the bots check if ports are open or something else
23:40 TheZenKitteh well dtamedia is wrong url but onisamadojo is up I know
23:40 kaeza Zetetic, you are checking Google for a MT server
23:40 Muadtralk theZenKitteh is using excess
23:40 kaeza !ping google.com
23:40 moltenbot 64 bytes from 173.194.70.100: icmp_req=1 ttl=51 time=5.02 ms
23:40 TheZenKitteh I was checking if they worked
23:40 Zetetic kaeza: I thought they just checked for open ports
23:40 TheZenKitteh they apparently don't work quite right
23:41 Muadtralk they are not suppost to work that way
23:41 TheZenKitteh then do explain Muadtralk
23:41 kaeza !ping google.com 80
23:41 moltenbot 64 bytes from 173.194.70.100: icmp_req=1 ttl=51 time=4.79 ms
23:41 kaeza !ping onisamadojo.net 50000
23:41 moltenbot 64 bytes from 76.184.22.212: icmp_req=1 ttl=43 time=150 ms
23:41 kaeza !ping onisamadojo.net 50004
23:41 moltenbot 64 bytes from 76.184.22.212: icmp_req=1 ttl=43 time=168 ms
23:41 Muadtralk !up is suppost to check for open minetest servers yes?
23:42 Kacey i gtg for a while
23:42 kaeza Muadtralk, yes
23:42 TheZenKitteh onisamadojo has a minetest server
23:42 TheZenKitteh and it is currently up
23:42 Muadtralk so it would make sense there is a safeguard in place to make sure it is in fact running a minetest server
23:42 TheZenKitteh but it uses port 50000
23:42 Muadtralk ahem? you mean RAPHAEL?
23:42 TheZenKitteh I am RAPHAEL
23:42 TheZenKitteh just under diff nick
23:42 Muadtralk ahhhh
23:43 Muadtralk dtamedia is yours though
23:43 TheZenKitteh no dtamedia and onisamadojo are a friend of mines
23:43 Muadtralk ahhhh
23:43 TheZenKitteh im just an unpaid admin over the server
23:43 TheZenKitteh lol
23:43 TheZenKitteh mostly the minetest side
23:44 Muadtralk well the 30001 server I called proves it isnt version number that effects whether it shows or not
23:44 Muadtralk because that one was running 0.2
23:44 NekoGloop "onisamadojo"
23:44 NekoGloop wat...
23:44 TheZenKitteh right now the server is running latest dev as of a few days ago. testing currently
23:45 TheZenKitteh runs on non standard port for reasons I don't even know
23:45 TheZenKitteh lol owners idea
23:45 Muadtralk haha
23:46 Muadtralk I thought that was because it is a private server?
23:46 Muadtralk was
23:46 TheZenKitteh well it started as a private server during early testing to make sure everything worked right
23:46 TheZenKitteh then moved to a semi public release for further testing and refinements
23:46 TheZenKitteh soon it will be full public
23:46 TheZenKitteh if it isn't already
23:47 TheZenKitteh right now its pretty much open to anyone who has enough rep that I can be reasonably sure they won't cause chaos
23:47 sdzen i still have that email
23:47 TheZenKitteh however the cache download is huge
23:47 TheZenKitteh over 15MB
23:47 sdzen the invite to your private server :)
23:48 TheZenKitteh yea that was back in early testing
23:48 TheZenKitteh lol
23:48 NakedFury is it close to 6 pm pst?
23:48 TheZenKitteh you were on the old server that was testing before he upgraded his net access
23:48 TheZenKitteh close to 4pm pacific I think
23:48 sdzen yes and there was you and ishikawa
23:49 TheZenKitteh yea ishikawa seems awol
23:49 TheZenKitteh don't know where he got off to
23:49 sdzen hmmm
23:49 sdzen when had you last heard of him?
23:49 TheZenKitteh but right now the active users are the owner, his daughter and myself mostly
23:49 sdzen dtamedia.com right?
23:50 sdzen or net
23:50 sdzen or org?
23:50 TheZenKitteh yea but due to domain reconfigurations the minetest server url is now onisamadojo.com
23:50 sdzen whoa!
23:50 sdzen big change :)
23:50 TheZenKitteh ?
23:51 sdzen and i can't connect
23:51 TheZenKitteh oh and now thanks to kaeza the in game chatter gets mirrored back and forth to the owners irc channel
23:51 TheZenKitteh port 50000?
23:51 TheZenKitteh lol
23:51 sdzen yep
23:51 sdzen so the bot was right
23:51 TheZenKitteh no the bot isn't
23:51 TheZenKitteh im connecting now
23:51 TheZenKitteh lol
23:51 sdzen what?
23:51 sdzen how am i not then?
23:51 kaeza <MinetestDTAmedia> *** RAPHAEL joined the game
23:52 sdzen I am running the latest git
23:52 TheZenKitteh onisamadojo.net
23:52 TheZenKitteh excuse me
23:52 TheZenKitteh lol
23:52 TheZenKitteh net not com
23:52 TheZenKitteh lol
23:52 TheZenKitteh would explain why bot said down
23:52 sdzen thanks for the warning :P
23:52 TheZenKitteh !up onisamadojo.net:50000
23:52 moltenbot Minetest server onisamadojo.net:50000:50000 DOWN
23:52 Minetest-tan TheZenKitteh: onisamadojo.net:50000 is up (0.439ms)
23:52 TheZenKitteh one says down one says up
23:52 TheZenKitteh lol
23:53 sdzen (06:39:37 PM) TheZenKitteh: !up dtamedia.com:50000
23:53 sdzen or was it the fact you typed this?\
23:53 TheZenKitteh yea im still trying to get used to onisamadojo.net being the domain and not dtamedia.com like it used to be
23:53 TheZenKitteh if u noticed right after I realized I used dtamedia I did (06:39:50 PM) TheZenKitteh: !up onisamadojo.com:50000
23:54 TheZenKitteh but I used com instead of net by accident
23:54 TheZenKitteh lol
23:54 enchilado joined #minetest
23:55 TheZenKitteh lol I thought 0.4.4 was unstable
23:55 TheZenKitteh the dev is worse it seems for me
23:56 TheZenKitteh server never tested with more than 4 players so no idea how many it can handle
23:57 sdzen need a extra player
23:57 sdzen ?
23:57 Oblivion1500 i guess were gonna find out
23:57 TheZenKitteh oh and in game skin switching mod is enabled
23:57 sdzen cool

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