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00:01 TheZenKitteh sdzen you in the game?
00:01 sdzen 46%
00:02 Oblivion1500 loading takes forever, whats up with that?
00:03 sdzen lots oh crap :)
00:03 TheZenKitteh 15+MB of cache
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00:03 TheZenKitteh lol
00:03 sdzen otherwise known as lots of crap
00:04 sdzen hoarders: minetest edition
00:04 TheZenKitteh well gotta have enough to play with or it can get boring
00:04 TheZenKitteh once loaded fully its much faster each time after
00:04 TheZenKitteh server post has a somewhat recent cache archive
00:04 Oblivion1500 well thats good
00:04 TheZenKitteh I need to get the cache archive updated
00:05 TheZenKitteh there's over 80 mods so yea
00:05 Oblivion1500 80!?
00:05 Oblivion1500 holt shit balls
00:05 enchilado There are peple I know in here! Amazing
00:05 enchilado People, even
00:06 TheZenKitteh oh excuse me over 90
00:06 TheZenKitteh lol
00:06 TheZenKitteh lots of textures
00:06 sdzen speaking of 90
00:06 Oblivion1500 damn, are there lots of structures?
00:06 sdzen 90%
00:06 Oblivion1500 69
00:07 TheZenKitteh I still think there should be a minetest.conf option to specify a 7z archive of a cache that can be hosted somewhere with a lot of bandwidth
00:07 TheZenKitteh could be useful since a lot of servers are run from homes
00:07 sdzen and minetest crashed........
00:08 TheZenKitteh I noticed the dev version likes to crash a lot for me on load
00:08 TheZenKitteh was unsure if graphics or what
00:08 TheZenKitteh usually a core dump involved
00:08 TheZenKitteh usually happens after everything seems loaded and about to enter world
00:09 Oblivion1500 i hope mine doesent crash
00:09 Oblivion1500 99
00:09 TheZenKitteh if it does you shouldn't have to redownload any extra cache
00:09 TheZenKitteh at least I never had to
00:10 Oblivion1500 im in
00:12 NekoGloop hello enchilado.
00:12 enchilado Hi NekoGloop!
00:12 enchilado Long time no see
00:14 NekoGloop heh.
00:15 Zetetic enchilado!
00:15 Zetetic Are you following me?
00:16 NekoGloop Instead of playing a hacked Super Metroid i should update my mods with the tables xD
00:17 enchilado Zetetic: not unless I'm doing it subconciously
00:17 Zetetic That's a yes :)
00:17 OldCoder Backe
00:18 enchilado I mean subconsciously, of course
00:19 Zetetic Still a yes :þ
00:20 Oblivion1500 kaeza: are you willing to vouch for me?
00:21 kaeza hmm
00:22 Oblivion1500 ?
00:22 Oblivion1500 hmmm
00:23 Oblivion1500 im on redcrabs server, venessa's. alot of oldcoders worlds, ext never been kicked off one
00:28 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on enchilado's head randomly as hell
00:29 enchilado Yay kittens
00:29 NekoGloop :3
00:29 Elench Favouritism!
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00:30 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Elench's head too
00:30 Elench Yay!
00:30 enchilado colonthorn
00:30 Elench I needed a hat
00:31 * TheZenKitteh pets the kittens
00:31 TheZenKitteh well time for work
00:32 TheZenKitteh ttyl
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00:40 sdzen Oblivion!
00:40 sdzen Ive seen you before!2
00:40 sdzen I vouch for ya
00:41 sdzen don't do anything stupid and I won't be forced to hunt you down and kill you
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00:42 Oblivion1500 oh thanks lol i was doing some reading ha
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00:43 sdzen now what do you need vouching for?
00:43 Oblivion1500 onisamadojo.net privs on that server ha
00:44 sdzen ahhh
00:44 sdzen easy
00:44 sdzen just gotta wait for RAPHAEL
00:45 Oblivion1500 ok thanks
00:55 Renoki new update for Minetest yet?
00:56 NekoGloop nope
00:56 Renoki aww
01:14 mauvebic <enchilado> colonthorn <- sounds painful
01:15 NekoGloop indeed.
01:15 enchilado :þ
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01:38 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFgB_KS-wg random
01:38 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: World's End Dancehall (English Cover)??ham + JubyPhonic P? - YouTube
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01:52 OldCoder NEWS: We have access to the Europe MT VPS after a month. All files will be recovered.
01:52 NakedFury that is good news
01:53 OldCoder Yep
01:53 OldCoder It will migrate
01:53 OldCoder To a nice fast server
01:58 NakedFury and backup
02:08 iqualfragile on LOCAL hdd
02:08 marktraceur iqualfragile: Your bot still responds to !up
02:09 marktraceur iqualfragile: Either you or sfan5|OFF needs to back off of it
02:09 iqualfragile well, i had it first and thexyz had disabled the !up of Minetest-tan
02:09 marktraceur I really don't care which one is disabled
02:10 marktraceur Figure it out amongst yourselves
02:10 NekoGloop joined #minetest
02:10 marktraceur Hands-off opping
02:10 marktraceur Until somebody totally disregards a reasonable request, then it can be more active.
02:10 * NekoGloop opens irc.minetest.ru to know wtf is going on
02:11 marktraceur NekoGloop: Just reminding iqualfragile to figure out which bot gets to respond to !up
02:11 NekoGloop Minetest-tan :P
02:11 NekoGloop because it does it right
02:11 marktraceur Ideally there would be exactly one bot in the channel
02:11 iqualfragile but minetest-tan is boring
02:12 NekoGloop minetest-tan has feelings, unlike you and your bot.
02:12 NekoGloop ;-)
02:12 marktraceur Define "boring"
02:12 NekoGloop not a whole lot happened since i left before...
02:12 iqualfragile well, actualy i would let my bot do the work but it was missuesd for spamming
02:12 iqualfragile NekoGloop:
02:12 iqualfragile nope
02:13 iqualfragile how to keep a NekoGloop buisy for 1:45? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZfnsvIqsfg
02:13 moltenbot Masters link: ???????2011?? - YouTube
02:14 NekoGloop concert compilation of 2011?
02:14 iqualfragile marktraceur: boring as in: just a standard python bot with some additions
02:14 iqualfragile boring in not-hackish
02:14 marktraceur iqualfragile: I'd prefer not hackish
02:14 iqualfragile well… im gona publish my sources tomorow
02:15 marktraceur iqualfragile: But I'd settle for featureful and responsive to commands
02:15 iqualfragile i have wanted to do that anyways
02:15 marktraceur iqualfragile: I think one of the best bots I know is wm-bot, which is just a simple bot that stores keys and values
02:16 iqualfragile well, mine is not hackish as in unclean/unreadable code/ race-conditions or anything
02:16 marktraceur iqualfragile: You do something like "!string is A string in the vocabulary of the project" and then !string, henceforth, will make the bot output that string.
02:16 marktraceur That's good enough for....just about anything we need a bot for
02:16 iqualfragile mine is hacky as in written from scratch in bash
02:16 marktraceur Uch.
02:16 marktraceur iqualfragile: You're not helping your case
02:16 iqualfragile but it can implement that feature, too
02:16 iqualfragile why?
02:16 marktraceur Bash is just...not something you should write in, regularly
02:17 iqualfragile its quite easy to do that in bash
02:17 iqualfragile its not
02:17 iqualfragile i was bored
02:17 marktraceur So....the reason we shouldn't go with the established bot, written in a normal language, is....?
02:17 iqualfragile and have not written anything in a while
02:17 iqualfragile hack-value
02:17 marktraceur That's not a reason
02:17 iqualfragile it is
02:17 marktraceur That's a sentiment
02:18 marktraceur And a pretty weak one at that
02:18 iqualfragile you wont understand opensource when you dont understand the importance of the hack value
02:18 marktraceur Ha.
02:18 marktraceur I don't want to understand open source, it's not a useful concept for me.
02:19 marktraceur But the free software I work with isn't proud of being written in a bad language. It works to re-factor into a better language.
02:19 iqualfragile its not? well, you sounded quite different lately
02:19 iqualfragile oh… picking words here?
02:19 marktraceur That's how language works, yeah.
02:20 marktraceur I choose some words to use in order to convey meaning to others.
02:21 mrtux What happened to default:sign?
02:21 mrtux I miss it ;_;
02:21 marktraceur There are still signs
02:21 mrtux yeah
02:21 mrtux the signs mod
02:21 mrtux the letters are very hard to read
02:22 Gambit you're looking for an IRC bot?
02:22 marktraceur mrtux: default:sign_wall
02:22 mrtux ah
02:22 marktraceur Gambit: We have two, we don't need another :)
02:22 marktraceur Gambit: But thanks, if we decide that these two are both crap, we may ask you
02:23 NakedFury XD
02:23 Gambit hehe
02:23 NekoGloop janebot would need a slight bit of alterations and additions, none of which should be too hard.
02:23 NakedFury a good bot should be able to answer the question: Who am I?   bot: I'm Batman.
02:24 NekoGloop Botman*
02:24 NekoGloop ;-)
02:24 Gambit Janebot used to be hooked up to a cool AI my friend wrote that could parse an answer questions smartassedly.
02:25 Gambit But the useful features that actually matter to FOSS projects are bug tracker lookups, and forum/twitter polling.
02:25 iqualfragile marktraceur: im not realy in the mood for this discussion right now, i had too less sleep lately, lets talk about it tomorrow when im awake again
02:25 NekoGloop Currently is also good for op-kick-deop in one command too.
02:25 NekoGloop That way y'all dont need to keep yourselfs op'd all the time
02:27 enchilado OMG hi Gambit
02:27 NekoGloop xD
02:27 Gambit Oh by the way. This is enchilado. If he causes trouble, let me know and we'll ban him forever from #minecraft. :D
02:28 enchilado Oh by the way. This is Gambit. If he causes trouble, let me know and we'll ban him forever from #minecraft. :D
02:28 Gambit 01-11 19:31:31| <enchilado> I feel like trolling #minetest
02:28 Gambit You should just ban him now.
02:29 * NekoGloop punts a kitten at enchilado
02:29 NekoGloop :D
02:29 * enchilado eats it
02:29 NekoGloop xD
02:30 mauvebic today's penalty its hot candle wax on one's nether regions
02:30 Gambit Kinky.
02:30 marktraceur enchilado: Why would you troll #minetest? Seems a little mean.
02:30 enchilado marktraceur: I wouldn't
02:30 enchilado Gambit is quoting out of context
02:31 * VanessaE peeks in...
02:31 VanessaE jeez, I turn away from here for a few hours and the whole network goes nuts.
02:31 VanessaE :)
02:32 NekoGloop yup
02:32 NekoGloop #minecraft is invad- i mean visiting.
02:33 VanessaE we must be causing a bigger prob^W^W^W^Wmaking a bigger impact than I thought.
02:33 VanessaE ;)
02:33 NekoGloop xD
02:33 NekoGloop now now,
02:33 mauvebic those who would spam other channels are without honour
02:34 Gambit Yeah enchilado stop spamming.
02:34 mauvebic lol
02:34 NekoGloop this ^
02:34 enchilado I spammed?
02:34 mauvebic i was talking about him tho lol
02:35 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on enchilado and Gambit's heads
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02:35 NekoGloop Now c'mon, at least let it be minetesters vs minecrafters instead of fighting amongst yourselfs.
02:35 NekoGloop hello Nikondork.
02:35 Nikondork hello neko
02:36 mauvebic they do that too? lol
02:36 Nikondork or we could just peacefully coexist
02:36 NekoGloop that too.
02:36 enchilado What Nikondork said
02:36 Gambit I will never coexist with enchilado.
02:37 NekoGloop xD
02:37 Gambit Death to those named after latin american foods!
02:37 Gambit No but uh I think tomorrow I'll try Minetest again :)
02:38 enchilado Minecraft and Minetest are different games; there's no reason people should play only one or the other
02:38 Nikondork you have been pardoned on #minecraft, NekoGloop
02:38 Gambit enchilado: that's not what you said in December.
02:38 Gambit :D
02:38 enchilado By which I mean: you don't have to be either a Minetester or a Minecrafter
02:38 enchilado Gambit: it is not.
02:38 enchilado Er...
02:38 enchilado No, it's not what I said, but I never said anything to the contrary either.
02:39 NekoGloop Nikondork: == #minecraft Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
02:39 Nikondork hrm
02:39 NekoGloop try unbanning my IP AND nick, since y'all banned both.
02:39 Nikondork hold pls
02:40 Nikondork NekoGloop: try now
02:41 kaeza o hai all
02:47 kaeza aaaaaaaaaargh http://minetest.net/forum/profile.php?id=3949
02:47 moltenbot kaeza's link: chase programer's profile - Minetest Forums
02:47 kaeza ooop
02:47 kaeza +s
02:47 kaeza wrong link
02:47 kaeza http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=63336#p63336
02:47 moltenbot kaeza's link: SPRAY paint mod (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
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03:06 iqualfragile enchilado: yes they are, to the greatest part
03:07 iqualfragile dirt was changed a ibt
03:07 NekoGloop um...
03:07 NekoGloop does anyone have any idea what he's saying?
03:08 enchilado I asked a question in #minetest-dev, but that wasn't the appropriate channel so he answered here
03:08 NekoGloop ohright.
03:09 NekoGloop that channel that i never bother joining.
03:09 enchilado iqualfragile: okay, thanks
03:09 enchilado Hrm
03:10 iqualfragile !date
03:10 moltenbot Sa 12. Jan 04:10:33 CET 2013
03:10 iqualfragile time to go to bed
03:10 enchilado The textures could be better
03:10 iqualfragile improve them
03:10 NekoGloop enchilado: Since the version cited there I have personally upgraded the orelumps and ingots.
03:10 NekoGloop ;-)
03:11 iqualfragile yaay, nearly all of my torrents have a ratio greater then one!
03:11 NekoGloop And if I'm not utterly mistaken then there should also be other changes
03:11 NekoGloop However the images shown in that image are, indeed, up to date.
03:11 NekoGloop Also, enchilado, if you think they suck then why dont you try to do better ;-)
03:12 iqualfragile ( i have changed grass on my server because i think it looked repetative
03:12 iqualfragile )
03:12 enchilado iqualfragile: yes, I was going to ask whether I might be able to help with that, and if so, how I would go about it
03:12 enchilado Oh, he left
03:12 NekoGloop xD
03:12 enchilado NekoGloop: I could easily do better
03:13 NekoGloop enchilado: well you could pull request to https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/ with better textures ;-)
03:13 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
03:13 NekoGloop https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/commit/cd604fa9c864160a6276b7fcf483a157ae339611 C'mon, if i could do it then you sure as hell can.
03:13 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Better lump & ingot textures ?  cd604fa ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
03:14 enchilado Those aren't better
03:14 NekoGloop better than the ones that only used three colors.
03:14 enchilado How many do yours use?
03:15 NekoGloop somewhere closer to 20-30
03:15 enchilado What the hell?
03:15 enchilado In a 16*16 image?
03:15 NekoGloop I'm good.
03:15 enchilado No, I'm shocked.
03:16 enchilado You should only need about four colours for something like that.
03:16 NekoGloop idk, would take too long to count
03:16 NekoGloop Well it looks a lot better
03:16 NekoGloop and the orelumps are centered in the image
03:16 enchilado It doesn't
03:16 NekoGloop and the ingot is 16*16 instead of 16*17 >.>
03:17 enchilado The shading is terrible, but it's nothing to do with the amount of colours used
03:17 NekoGloop *sigh*
03:18 enchilado The ingots in my Minecraft texture pack use 6 shades including the outline
03:18 NekoGloop what you dont understand is that we dont want to look like a minecraft clone
03:18 NekoGloop minetest is its own game.
03:18 NekoGloop it should both feel and look like an entirely different game.
03:18 enchilado Having ugly icons is going to make you look more like a Minecraft clone.
03:19 NekoGloop and you propose that the old ones looked better?
03:19 enchilado They're both so bad that it's hard to compare them.
03:20 NekoGloop If you can do better, then by all means, do so.
03:21 sdzen wait....
03:21 sdzen new icon?
03:21 sdzen where?
03:21 NekoGloop sdzen: my orelump and ingots.
03:22 enchilado NekoGloop: this is how I would start http://i.imgur.com/CpUGi.png
03:22 NekoGloop Then by all means pull request it
03:22 sdzen I dont like the ingot
03:22 sdzen :P
03:22 sdzen neko
03:22 enchilado Well, that took about five seconds not including making the background white and resizing it
03:22 NekoGloop sdzen: nobody does.
03:23 sdzen :P
03:23 NekoGloop enchilado: why did you make the background white
03:23 enchilado Ideally I would spend a little longer than that
03:23 sdzen ms paint man anyone?
03:23 NekoGloop I dont think he uses windows xD
03:23 enchilado NekoGloop: because if I CTRL+V an image with a transparent background into imgur it makes it black
03:23 sdzen ahem
03:23 NekoGloop enchilado: then upload it right.
03:23 sdzen then dont use imgur
03:23 NakedFury did you manually make the lighter and darker tones in that small image?
03:24 enchilado NekoGloop: I do use Windows.
03:24 NekoGloop awesome.
03:24 NakedFury for a quick example it looks good and not crappy
03:24 enchilado sdzen: what image hosting site would you recommend?
03:24 NekoGloop enchilado: easy: omploader
03:24 sdzen imageshack.us and ompldr.org are nice
03:24 sdzen mediafire in a pinch
03:24 NekoGloop mediafire is bad and you should feel bad.
03:24 NekoGloop jk.
03:25 enchilado Imageshack? Over imgur?
03:25 sdzen yes
03:25 enchilado Are you being serious right now?
03:25 NekoGloop enchilado: omploader :P
03:25 NekoGloop OMPLADOER
03:25 NekoGloop wow my spelling.
03:25 sdzen never go wroung with the omp
03:25 enchilado I'm unsure what the problem with imgur is
03:25 sdzen if you do then your a trad
03:25 enchilado Transparency works fine if I upload it from a file, it only converts to blackness when I paste it.
03:25 NekoGloop enchilado: the problem is that you have to make images not have transparent BG's.
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03:26 sdzen then dont paste
03:26 kaeza jojoa1997, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=63355#p63355
03:26 moltenbot kaeza's link: PvP Survival Games (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
03:26 kaeza and hi :)
03:26 enchilado sdzen: why did it need to have a transparent background?
03:26 jojoa1997 kaeza:hi
03:27 NekoGloop enchilado: because download directly and use immediately
03:27 sdzen cause minetest likes them
03:27 NekoGloop and also less to draw when loading the image
03:27 NekoGloop and also you should upsize to 128*128, then we can really see it ;)
03:27 sdzen i like his lump
03:27 sdzen its nice
03:28 enchilado I wasn't proposing that image should be used; that was a quick example of how to improve the shading a little
03:28 sdzen mine are better!
03:28 sdzen and nobody will ever get them!
03:28 sdzen :P
03:28 NekoGloop yeah fine
03:28 NekoGloop obviously anything i make is shit and shouldnt have ever existed.
03:28 NekoGloop :P
03:29 * sdzen smacks neko with a fish
03:29 mrtux I need help with worldedit
03:29 sdzen not true
03:29 mrtux it never works for me
03:29 kaeza mrtux, ?
03:29 mrtux I do //pos1
03:29 mrtux then //pos2
03:29 mrtux then //metasave building
03:29 mrtux and it never gives me what I want
03:29 NakedFury /p set
03:30 NakedFury I use that
03:30 * NekoGloop is smacked with a fish
03:30 mrtux I don't get why it doesn't work
03:30 NekoGloop ow.
03:30 NakedFury .//p set then //save name
03:30 NakedFury are you in a server?
03:31 sdzen the save and load never work right for big things btw
03:31 mrtux yeah
03:31 mrtux ah
03:31 mrtux it is a big thing
03:31 NakedFury try saving it in parts
03:31 sdzen that is a bit advanced though
03:31 jojoa1997 kaeza: for the feel of a hunger games mod watch some videos from here and see what they do http://www.youtube.com/user/MinecraftFinest/videos?query=hunger+games
03:31 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: MinecraftFinest's Channel - YouTube
03:31 sdzen he will need perfect positioning on it
03:32 jojoa1997 for example they can only dig food and leaves but can get stuff out of chests.
03:32 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on sdzen's head
03:32 mrtux >75 nodes saved
03:32 mrtux uh
03:32 enchilado Were I going to spend a little more time on the icon
03:32 jojoa1997 also there is a game restarter so when a hunger game is over there is an automatic restart
03:33 jojoa1997 i know some of this is advanced but the no digging
03:33 * sdzen asks the kitten if he enjoys heads
03:33 enchilado It'd probably look something more like this http://i.imgur.com/IY8Ku.png
03:33 jojoa1997 but leaves and n apple would be a good start
03:33 sdzen rollback!
03:33 sdzen an altercation of that is easy
03:34 jojoa1997 kaeza: can i make a new group definition by using this "minetest.register_group({spleef})"
03:34 NekoGloop enchilado: pull request. now.
03:34 jojoa1997 oh yeah'
03:34 sdzen hmmmm
03:34 jojoa1997 sdzen what about having a point system
03:35 sdzen ive used the spleef group before
03:35 jojoa1997 oh good
03:35 enchilado NekoGloop: where can I get the full set of textures?
03:35 sdzen I don't actually think you need to define groups
03:35 sdzen just make sure they are in the node and tool registry
03:35 NekoGloop enchilado: download https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/ using the "clone in windows" button
03:35 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
03:35 NekoGloop yes you'll have to download and install github for windows
03:36 NekoGloop and get a github account.
03:38 enchilado NekoGloop: or just $ git clone git://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git ...?
03:38 NekoGloop you need some kind of git protocols installed, but if you do have those then by all means do so.
03:39 enchilado I hate git
03:39 enchilado Err
03:39 enchilado I have*
03:39 enchilado I love git :P
03:40 NekoGloop well we all hate git ;-)
03:40 NekoGloop anyway, go ahead and do that.
03:42 kaeza jojoa1997, so basically, it's a one-life match
03:42 kaeza you die you are out?
03:42 enchilado I'll have a look at some of these other textures a bit later on
03:43 jojoa1997 yeah but there is alot more
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03:44 jojoa1997 the matches do restart automatically
03:44 jojoa1997 there are deathmatches where players fight at spawn
03:44 jojoa1997 chests refill after night on there own (so rollback cant be used for the entire server)
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03:45 jojoa1997 yeah and there is more subtle stuff that i cant remember from the top of my head
03:47 kaeza jojoa1997, I'm have that in mind, but that will have to wait until tomorrow
03:47 kaeza I'll *
03:48 jojoa1997 ok
03:48 jojoa1997 oh and anyone who is intrested i am almost done with my spleef arena mod
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03:51 kaeza see you everyone, I'm off to bed
03:51 TheZenKitteh Oblivion1500.. you around?
03:52 TheZenKitteh k cya kaeza
03:52 Oblivion1500 yes i am
04:01 OldCoder I updated glooptest but I am still getting
04:02 OldCoder 19:59:57: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "glooptest_tool_arolpick.png"
04:02 OldCoder And similar errors
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04:41 TheZenKitteh OldCoder you sure the images exist?
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04:56 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, oddly I seem to have misplaced the errors so never mind for now and ty
04:56 OldCoder NEWS Shutting down my worlds for backups and updates. Mod requests or suggestions welcome now
04:56 TheZenKitteh I suggest my mods but im a little biased
04:56 TheZenKitteh lol
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05:18 NekoGloop meow?
05:27 Oblivion1500 mooo
05:42 TheZenKitteh woof
05:42 enchilado baa
05:44 TheZenKitteh am I the only minetest player that ends up with huge amounts of every material available?
05:44 TheZenKitteh I have several thousand blocks of sand and glass
05:44 TheZenKitteh as well as clay
05:44 TheZenKitteh lol
05:45 * TheZenKitteh strip mined a large beach area
05:47 NekoGloop You dont have a lot of anything
05:47 NekoGloop until you have an inventory FULL of talinite blocks.
05:48 TheZenKitteh talinite?
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05:49 NekoGloop Yes talinite
05:49 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4345
05:49 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: [ModPack][0.0.3] GloopTest Pack! [glooptest] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
05:49 TheZenKitteh lol not tried that mod yet
05:50 NekoGloop DO EEEEEEEET
05:50 TheZenKitteh do ET?
05:50 TheZenKitteh but ET will phone home and ill get my backside beat by some aliens
05:50 NekoGloop xD
05:51 NekoGloop no, do "eeeeeeeet"
05:51 TheZenKitteh eeeeeeeeeeee t phone home?
05:51 TheZenKitteh lol
05:52 Oblivion1500 what programs do you guys use to edit or add textures?
05:52 enchilado GIMP
05:52 NekoGloop Game Maker
05:52 NekoGloop ;-)
05:52 enchilado NekoGloop: whut
05:52 NekoGloop enchilado: no, seriously.
05:52 TheZenKitteh gimp
05:53 NekoGloop i use game maker for texture making
05:53 NekoGloop because fuck logic
05:53 Oblivion1500 lol nice
05:53 TheZenKitteh long ago I liked paintshop pro.. then I said fek it and learned gimp.. too bad I still suck at making textures
05:53 TheZenKitteh lol
05:54 NekoGloop I used game maker 8.0 LITE EDITION to make the iron ingot you can see in upstream now.
05:54 enchilado It's not really terribly difficult to make decent textures
05:55 TheZenKitteh enchilado have you seen my textures I've made myself? lol
05:55 enchilado I'm not saying you can do it straight off
05:55 TheZenKitteh I will say im far better at pencil drawing
05:55 enchilado But if you put a little effort into learning, you will get much better.
05:55 TheZenKitteh I have considered doing a pencil drawing texture pack
05:56 TheZenKitteh pencil draw all the textures, scan, resize and such
05:56 TheZenKitteh lol
05:56 TheZenKitteh might be interesting
05:56 enchilado When I compare my pixel art from three or four years ago to my current stuff...
05:56 enchilado TheZenKitteh: no.
05:56 enchilado Don't do that.
05:56 Oblivion1500 TheZenKitteh: OMG DO IT
05:56 enchilado You really, really, really need to draw low-res textures at their final size.
05:57 enchilado With such a small canvas, you need to make sure every pixel is doing exactly the right thing.
05:57 NakedFury scaling down just makes them blurry
05:57 Oblivion1500 and get a magnifying glass lol
05:57 TheZenKitteh im aware of that enchilado.. however im not good at visualizing such tiny textures in my head
05:57 TheZenKitteh 64x64 is about as small as I can visualize currently
05:57 enchilado I don't visualise things in my head before I draw them
05:57 enchilado Also, remember that you're going to have to stylise
05:57 enchilado You can't draw a realistic 16*16 texture
05:58 NakedFury no such thing as realistic 16x
05:58 Oblivion1500 you can if you get graph paper
05:58 NekoGloop enchilado: VanessaE would have some hell to put you through
05:58 enchilado NekoGloop: why?
05:58 NekoGloop because she did so
05:58 enchilado No, she didn't. It's not possible.
05:59 Oblivion1500 she did and they look very well done
05:59 NakedFury realistic are 128x and higher
05:59 enchilado Can anyone provide me with a link?
05:59 Oblivion1500 give me a sec to find it
06:00 Oblivion1500 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1583
06:00 moltenbot Oblivion1500's link: HDX Textures (16 - 512 px) [2012-12-30] (Page 1) - Texture Packs - Minetest Forums
06:00 NekoGloop It's not all downsized to 16px, mind you
06:01 NekoGloop most images are though
06:01 enchilado No screenshots of the 16x version?
06:02 Oblivion1500 just look in the github link
06:02 NekoGloop mind you, not all of the pack is downsized
06:03 enchilado Without meaning any offence, I would not describe these textures as either realistic or very well done.
06:04 Oblivion1500 well, what do you got?
06:04 NekoGloop >without meaning any offence
06:04 NekoGloop >is enchilado
06:04 NekoGloop what is this i dont even
06:04 enchilado NekoGloop: er - what?
06:04 enchilado I'm unsure what you're trying to say there.
06:04 Oblivion1500 so am i
06:05 NakedFury he can say that without sounding mean
06:05 NekoGloop And i have no idea what NF just said
06:05 Oblivion1500 what were we talking about agin?
06:05 Oblivion1500 again*
06:05 * VanessaE peeks in for a sec
06:06 Oblivion1500 shhhh shes here
06:06 enchilado NekoGloop: most of these icons seem to be 64*64, not 16*16...
06:06 NekoGloop enchilado: as i said it's not all downsized
06:06 NekoGloop AND STOP DFSABNFJKDSALFDSA CALLING THEM ICONS
06:06 NekoGloop THEY ARE TEXTURES
06:06 Oblivion1500 hahaha
06:06 enchilado In what way are they not icons?
06:07 NekoGloop enchilado: in the sense that icons are the images that appear in folders when looking at files.
06:07 Oblivion1500 they arnt used to be put next to our names in the forums
06:07 VanessaE enchilado: in the 16px size, I opted for 64px for the various items that are meant only for display in the player's inventory, so that they more or less match the apparent resolution of other objects such as cubes.
06:07 VanessaE everything else is 16px.
06:07 VanessaE if it is meant to be part of the actual world, i.e. something you build with, it's 16px.
06:08 enchilado VanessaE: sure, but in that case referring to your texture pack as an example of realistic 16x icons is somewhat invalid.
06:09 NekoGloop >icons
06:09 NekoGloop please remove this person from my sight.
06:09 enchilado < enchilado> In what way are they not icons?
06:09 enchilado < NekoGloop> *silence*
06:09 NekoGloop enchilado: no, you just cant read
06:10 TheZenKitteh lol
06:10 * TheZenKitteh sits down to watch the brawl
06:10 VanessaE enchilado: they're as realistic as you can get for 16px.  I challenge anyone to make it more realistic at that size.  Besides, if you don't like 16px, use one of the other sizes.  Minetest natively supports any size you want to throw at it, limited only by your hardware (e.g. video card, RAM)
06:10 VanessaE can someone make them "better"?  possibly.  more realistic?  I doubt it.
06:10 enchilado VanessaE: but as you jut said, they're 64x64, not 16*16...
06:11 VanessaE enchilado: no, I said, and I quote:  if it is meant to be part of the actual world, i.e. something you build with, it's 16px.
06:11 enchilado Just, rather.
06:11 Oblivion1500 ...............
06:11 VanessaE the 64px textures are only for items in the inventory/crafting display, not inside the world.
06:11 VanessaE in Minetest, there is a distinction between these:  inventory image, wield image, and in-world texture ("tiles")
06:12 enchilado I had inventory images in mind.
06:12 Oblivion1500 so anyone else looking at your damn house will see 16 px
06:13 VanessaE yes.  But inventory images are only used in the inventory, not in the world, and they are only 64px in these packs because the game renders things like cubes, shaped objects ("nodeboxes"), models, etc at a much higher resolution that the 16px textures they are painted with.
06:13 Oblivion1500 why would you have that in mind.. i was asking what people used to edit/add textures
06:13 VanessaE so I used 64px in the inventory to match the apparent rendering resolution of those objects.  Had I not done so, they would have looked horribly mismatched.
06:14 NekoGloop Oblivion1500: that was answered a LONG time ago...
06:14 VanessaE Oblivion1500: Inkscape for some of the renderings, GIMP for everything else.
06:14 Oblivion1500 well NekoGloop: she just answered my question lol
06:14 Oblivion1500 you all answered it long ago
06:15 enchilado VanessaE: and? That still doesn't make it an example of realistic 16x item sprites.
06:15 VanessaE hey, I'm late to the party, I get to answer redundantly if I want to :-)
06:15 Oblivion1500 lol
06:15 VanessaE enchilado: they could just as easily have been done at 16px.  I just chose not to.  No other reason.
06:16 VanessaE but then, they'd look like crap in the inventory, which is where they are seen 99% of the time.
06:16 enchilado Yes, they'd look like crap in the inventory. Which is rather my point.
06:17 Oblivion1500 GAMES ARNT REAL! TheZenKitteh: make your drawings 64 px and VanessaE: good job with all the textures you must have put alot of time into them
06:18 enchilado NekoGloop: eh, true, I somehow read that line and then forgot I read it.
06:18 TheZenKitteh im using the majority of vanessaes textures on the dtamedia server. only a few I wasn't fond of and didn't use lol
06:18 enchilado NekoGloop: I...
06:18 enchilado So...
06:19 VanessaE enchilado: which is the case using any texture pack, on any game, and on any platform you care to name.  If your inventory/HUD/etc. display's textures are low-resolution, they will look like crap next to any standard 3D renderings that appear on that same display.
06:19 enchilado No, I'm still not getting it. In what way are they not icons?
06:19 TheZenKitteh textures to me are like tiny little expressions of art so make them as you want. someone will like them and someone will hate them
06:20 enchilado VanessaE: why are you telling me things that are obvious and irrelevant?
06:20 VanessaE enchilado: because you are making the same comparison here, making your entire argument about the resolution of the inventory textures invalid.
06:21 enchilado VanessaE: do you understand what my argument is?
06:21 VanessaE enchilado: I guess not.
06:22 enchilado I never mentioned your texture pack initially; I had never heard of it. I simply stated that 16x icons will not look realistic, and someone said that they were in your texture pack.
06:22 VanessaE meh.
06:23 NekoGloop when you dont use the right terminology, everyone is going to assume you mean a general form instead.
06:23 NekoGloop I wonder if gambit got around to playing minetest
06:23 enchilado NekoGloop: why isn't it the right terminology?
06:23 NekoGloop enchilado: because you could mean any number of things by "icon"
06:23 enchilado Surely it's just as accurate and less ambiguous to refer to item sprites as icons rather than textures?
06:24 NekoGloop while you actually meant what is known as an "inventory image"
06:24 enchilado NekoGloop: what other icons are there in Minetest?
06:24 NekoGloop enchilado: "wield images" and "node tiles"
06:25 enchilado How on earth are they icons?
06:25 NekoGloop because kittens
06:25 NekoGloop your arguement is invalid
06:25 NekoGloop good night
06:25 enchilado 'Night.
06:26 VanessaE the reason being, you can give an inventory image to an object without that image being what the object appears as in the world - even if it's dropped.
06:26 TheZenKitteh lol kittens
06:27 Oblivion1500 you also can make real life things look 16px if you want.. and they are real
06:27 enchilado If it's the texture used for a block or an item held in the hand, it's not an icon...
06:27 enchilado Or a tile, or whatever.
06:27 enchilado Oblivion1500: well, no.
06:28 VanessaE enchilado: that's just it - all three texture declarations can be given for any node you want.
06:28 Oblivion1500 uhm?
06:28 VanessaE that's why we don't use "icon" to describe them, because in some instances, it's the wrong word entirely.
06:29 enchilado If you resize a photograph of an apple to 16*16, it's been severely manipulated. It's not really "real" any more, and it's certainly not going to look it when you view it at 32x32.
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06:29 TheZenKitteh why not just do as nekogloop would likely suggest and call them kittens.. problem solved
06:29 Oblivion1500 well if you get blocks and put them together to look like an apple that is a real redering of an apple
06:30 enchilado VanessaE: but I was referring to the image that is shown in the inventory, which is surely an icon.
06:30 TheZenKitteh 16x16 kittens
06:30 TheZenKitteh lol
06:30 VanessaE enchilado: not always.  Sometimes the inventory image is actually one side of the cube you place in the world.
06:30 VanessaE literally, the same filename used on one of the cube's sides is occasionally seen being used as the inventory image also.
06:31 enchilado Why does that change it being an icon when displayed in the inventory?
06:32 Oblivion1500 cause thats called an inventory image
06:32 VanessaE because the file in question will have been explicitly intended as one of the cube's sides, not as the inventory texture - when a modder gets lazy or doesn't understand how textures work, they may sometimes also specify the same exact file to be used in the inventory image.
06:33 TheZenKitteh vanessae or when they suck at making textures like me
06:33 TheZenKitteh lol
06:33 * TheZenKitteh looks at code.. good nuff
06:33 VanessaE I seem to recall that early versions of minetest did that anyway - some cube objects appeared as flat square images in the inventory, even though the image being shown was not in fact an inventory image.
06:34 VanessaE if not, certainly many early mods did.
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06:35 OldCoder NEWS My worlds restarted. Only minor changes. VanessaE world demo updated.
06:36 enchilado VanessaE: I still don't understand why it would be an "inventory image" but not an "icon", but okay.
06:38 VanessaE the terminology matters because that's how you program mods for the game.
06:39 VanessaE it's like saying cout is really print().  They may act the same, but if you get them wrong, they just won't work.  Same with modding the game - use the wrong terminology inside the mod and you have no hope of making it work right.
06:39 VanessaE (even if you have the Lua skills of the entire Minetest community combined)
06:40 Oblivion1500 count = print
06:40 Oblivion1500 now they are the same
06:40 VanessaE heh
06:42 enchilado I'm afraid your analogy has little meaning for me as I am an artist, not a programmer, but I suppose I understand.
06:42 VanessaE that's why we're so insistent on the correct terminology here.
06:42 VanessaE most of us are also modders. :-)
06:43 enchilado However, I don't see my error as being grave enough--particularly since I was not referring to the creation of any mod, but simply to inventory images in a very general way--to cause such an extreme reaction as NekoGloop had
06:43 enchilado I did not even mean Minetest images in particular
06:44 VanessaE well see,
06:44 VanessaE Minetest's game content is *also* a mod.
06:44 VanessaE literally.
06:44 VanessaE if you took away all of the mods, both built-in and third-party, I think about all you'll get is ...  just air?  I forget exactly where the line is drawn.
06:45 enchilado I figured that from the way the files were organised.
06:45 enchilado With "default" being in the "mods" folder, I mean.
06:45 Oblivion1500 no
06:45 Oblivion1500 that is the default folder
06:45 enchilado Er, well
06:46 Oblivion1500 mods can go in two places
06:46 enchilado Oh?
06:46 Oblivion1500 in a certan world or in your entire client
06:46 enchilado Anyway to correct what I said before, I suppose there are other mods in there by default as well
06:46 sfan5 mods/minetest worlds/poop/worldmods game/minetest_game/mods
06:46 sfan5 3 places
06:46 sfan5 but the last is only for built-in mods
06:46 enchilado Oblivion1500: hmm, okay
06:47 enchilado Oblivion1500: but the default game data is still stored in a folder called "mods"
06:47 Oblivion1500 yes
06:47 Oblivion1500 like stuff that comes packaged with your game
06:48 Oblivion1500 that is like basic do crap and textures that come with the game, alot of mods depend on those mods
06:48 VanessaE yes, there are other included mods - about 10 of them, give or take.  "default" is just one of them.
06:48 Oblivion1500 sfan5: of corse
06:49 enchilado I'm not sure how being able to install mods for a certain world contradicts what I said about why I assume the default game was a mod, though.
06:49 enchilado Assumed, I mean.
06:50 VanessaE no contradiction there.  Just another distinction is all.
06:51 enchilado 06.45.33 < Oblivion1500> no
06:51 enchilado I thought that by that he meant to contradict me.
06:51 TheZenKitteh at least we have mods. I remember when minetest didn't have mods lol
06:52 Oblivion1500 i thought you were talking about the default mod
06:52 Oblivion1500 being the folder for all your mods
06:52 Oblivion1500 i read what you said wrong
06:53 Oblivion1500 i read With "default" being the "mods" folder, I mean.
06:57 enchilado Ah
07:00 VanessaE jeez, 22.8C in here and I'm burning up.
07:01 Oblivion1500 see i may be oblivious but i do beleave in a little humility
07:02 Oblivion1500 VanessaE: thats pretty warm
07:02 Oblivion1500 were are you from?
07:03 VanessaE I'm used to about 2 degrees cooler than this.  damn computers are heating up the room today something terrible.
07:03 VanessaE I'm in the US actually.
07:03 VanessaE Western NC.
07:03 Oblivion1500 me too,
07:03 Oblivion1500 im in FL
07:04 Oblivion1500 i still have to have my house at like 68 - 70 F
07:04 NakedFury why was celsius created as a unit? was fahrenheit not enough?
07:05 Oblivion1500 i guess not, why do we have ants?
07:06 NakedFury what?
07:07 Oblivion1500 I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION YOU ANSWER MINE
07:07 enchilado NakedFury: because fahrenheit makes no sense
07:07 Oblivion1500 why is that?
07:08 Elench Neither does Celsius
07:08 NakedFury should have been replaced sooner so as not to confuse people
07:08 NakedFury same stuff as the feet and centimeter stuff
07:08 VanessaE Celsius makes sense if you think of it by its other name, Centigrade.
07:08 Elench Not really
07:08 Elench Still has a false zero
07:09 enchilado Elench: it's nicely based on water's freezing and boiling points and has the same magnitude as kelvin, which is nice.
07:09 VanessaE 100 degrees from freezing to boiling for pure water at standard atmospheric pressure
07:09 VanessaE seems pretty straightforward to me.
07:09 NakedFury fahrenheit worked fine until some bighead genius decided to change it to celsius
07:09 enchilado I just used "nice" twice. Ugh.
07:09 enchilado Or is it melting point? I can never remember.
07:09 Elench Melting I think
07:10 NakedFury 0 °C was defined as the freezing point of water and 100 °C was defined as the boiling point of water
07:11 sfan5 !sh v.gd https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/commit/5f1fb56b8b02ec17f76f86b6e770ea8ad87fc68e
07:11 Minetest-tan sfan5: http://v.gd/mBRzlN
07:11 moltenbot sfan5's link: Rename //dig to //fixlight ?  5f1fb56 ? Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit ? GitHub
07:13 enchilado Why double slashes?
07:13 sfan5 because its worldedit?
07:13 enchilado Uhrm... and?
07:14 sfan5 minecraft's worldedit also uses //
07:15 enchilado Okay
07:15 enchilado But I don't know why it does either, and why should the Minetest one do the same?
07:16 enchilado (Is it made by the same person?)
07:16 sfan5 !sh is.gd https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/commit/6f3127f32e6d51d25f36e57c6fea7a7fb9de73fb
07:16 Minetest-tan sfan5: http://is.gd/IyQzbX
07:16 moltenbot sfan5's link: Fix Code ?  6f3127f ? Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit ? GitHub
07:17 sfan5 enchilado: no
07:17 NakedFury was that # extra symbol a code breaking bug or a nothing happens I just misplaced # here error?
07:18 sfan5 misplaced
07:18 sfan5 i also wrote if node.name == "air":  <- lua uses no :
07:18 sfan5 i coded too much python
07:19 NakedFury fix the fixed code then
07:24 NakedFury I never saw this suppress command
07:25 NakedFury what does it do?
07:26 sfan5 description = "Suppress all <node> in the current WorldEdit region non-destructively",
07:30 RealBadAngel NakedFury, actually 0 deg in celsius scale is defined at ice melting point
07:30 NakedFury that was copy pasted from wikipedia
07:30 RealBadAngel which is the same but still
07:30 NakedFury and search is not giving me worldedit topic which is weird
07:31 NakedFury ok had to separate world and edit
07:32 NakedFury ok sfan I will suggest a good editing of the original post for WE
07:32 NakedFury with all the new commands
07:32 NakedFury like suppress and fixlight
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08:15 OldCoder howdy
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08:24 TheZenKitteh moo
08:25 Zetetic Hru-hru :@)
08:25 TheZenKitteh hey Zetetic
08:25 TheZenKitteh hey OldCoder
08:26 OldCoder Hi!
08:26 OldCoder Moo
08:26 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, howdy
08:27 TheZenKitteh when did gambit enter?
08:27 * TheZenKitteh doesn't recall them entering.. same with hmmm
08:27 TheZenKitteh hmmmm*
08:27 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, he has been around for a day or two
08:27 TheZenKitteh lurkers
08:27 OldCoder MC Ambassador
08:27 TheZenKitteh or spies
08:27 OldCoder >.>
08:27 TheZenKitteh lol spies
08:27 OldCoder !
08:28 VanessaE heh
08:28 TheZenKitteh probably trying to steal our precious secrets mwuahahahaa
08:28 TheZenKitteh lol
08:29 TheZenKitteh I can tell im getting tired. im beginning to get retarded
08:30 TheZenKitteh o my
08:30 TheZenKitteh http://www.slashgear.com/users-advised-to-disable-java-due-to-security-weakness-11265030/
08:30 moltenbot TheZenKitteh's link: Users advised to disable Java due to security weakness - SlashGear
08:33 TheZenKitteh "Oracle has stated that it will release a patch for the issue on January 15 that will fix 86 security vulnerabilities. "
08:34 Oblivion1500 Java plug-ins on Firefox are now blocked from auto-loading unless the user manually authorizes it.
08:34 Oblivion1500 thats good news for me
08:35 TheZenKitteh im "fairly sure" that most trying to use such security vulnerabilities are targeting Windows
08:36 Oblivion1500 yea if i was fully sure i would be happy with the change and had a cd r laying around i would probably find myself a nice linux os
08:37 Oblivion1500 its so hard to deside witch one though....
08:38 TheZenKitteh well my suggestion if you have decent specs and not overly familiar with linux is mint with mate desktop if you like classic style desktops. cinnamon mint if you like fancy eye candy and such
08:38 TheZenKitteh of course run live cd/dvd first to make sure everything works and still keep windows awhile in case something goes horribly wrong or you start to want to throw computer out the window
08:39 TheZenKitteh of course windows makes me want to throw it through a window
08:39 TheZenKitteh so I use tux
08:39 Oblivion1500 lol well cant i run it along side windows?
08:39 TheZenKitteh yea you can install it alongside windows
08:40 Oblivion1500 yea not run duh its 3 am for me lol
08:40 TheZenKitteh of course be sure to defragment before doing any installs alongside windows
08:41 TheZenKitteh I still have windows but everytime I use it I feel so paranoid and it annoys me so badly I can't stand it
08:41 TheZenKitteh lol
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08:42 TheZenKitteh I mainly have it for the few games I like that don't run on tux
08:42 Oblivion1500 still got to find a cd r, i have a sd, and a 1tb external i could run live on the sd... i kinda want to install on my external...
08:43 Oblivion1500 if i were to install on my external could i still get it to install along side windows?
08:43 TheZenKitteh oh and if you can do it id suggest getting the mint dvd with codecs included unless you have broadband. then use whatever you want
08:44 TheZenKitteh usually what I personally do is nuke windows, laugh in an evil maniacal way then install tux. this last time I kept windows though. never tried anything else with ubuntu based although I have installed puppy linux on an sdhc card
08:45 Oblivion1500 hmm
08:46 OldCoder Oblivion1500, you can put Linux on any USB device if that is what you mean
08:46 VanessaE OldCoder: another update is available :-)
08:47 VanessaE (been doing some work on the plants lib and re-testing moretrees since the last update)
08:47 TheZenKitteh yea oldcoder is right.. however most distros aren't optimized for such and will run very slowly
08:47 OldCoder VanessaE, proceeding now then
08:47 Oblivion1500 can i do it without it touching my windows bianaries?
08:47 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, even for a USB HD as opposed to Flash?
08:47 OldCoder Oblivion1500, Yes
08:47 OldCoder Oblivion1500, you can shrink Windows too
08:47 OldCoder That is often an option
08:47 TheZenKitteh not tried usb hd oldcoder only usb flash
08:47 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, yes... For Flash you need a LiveDistro
08:48 OldCoder USB HD is fast if you turn off the atime field
08:48 OldCoder That is important!
08:49 Oblivion1500 what the heck is the atime field?
08:49 VanessaE time of last file read.  gets updated every time a file is opened, which slows things down somewhat since it is rarely needd.
08:49 VanessaE needed*
08:50 OldCoder Oblivion1500, it is something minor that can be fixed
08:50 OldCoder There is one line
08:50 OldCoder That can be added to a file and problem solved
08:50 OldCoder Anyway...
08:50 OldCoder Oblivion1500, you can shrink Windows
08:50 TheZenKitteh disabling atime is also good for paranoid feks like me
08:50 OldCoder and Linux and Windows can share your HD
08:50 TheZenKitteh lol
08:50 VanessaE OldCoder: /etc/fstab, "noatime" in the flags field of the appropriate mount line.
08:50 OldCoder Yep
08:50 OldCoder There are runtime commands as well
08:52 OldCoder VanessaE, updating
08:52 OldCoder VanessaE, I have scripts just for your world now
08:52 OldCoder mauvebic, when shall we update yours?
08:52 Oblivion1500 confusing as all heck for me.. but considdering, i am thinking i should just transfer all my important docs to my external and install linux along side windows
08:52 TheZenKitteh backups should always be made
08:52 OldCoder Yes!
08:52 TheZenKitteh never know when something will fudge
08:53 TheZenKitteh all my backups exist on separate drive from os drive
08:53 TheZenKitteh lol
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08:53 Muadtralk good morning from EST #minetest!
08:53 TheZenKitteh morning? must be nearing my bedtime
08:53 TheZenKitteh :P
08:54 Oblivion1500 i dont really want to do a back up though.. i just want my important things there and if i have to i will do a fresh install.. with all my important things on my external ofcorse
08:54 TheZenKitteh hey Muadtralk
08:54 Muadtralk what time for you?
08:54 TheZenKitteh EST for me
08:54 TheZenKitteh lol
08:54 Oblivion1500 4?
08:54 TheZenKitteh my body refuses to stick to a "sleep at night be awake in day" schedule
08:54 TheZenKitteh I've tried numerous times
08:54 Muadtralk ive been up since 3
08:54 Oblivion1500 same with me and it pisses me off
08:55 TheZenKitteh I've been up since about noon EST
08:55 TheZenKitteh I can't sleep later than that or the days I work long hours ill be tired at work which is no fun
08:56 TheZenKitteh however my "natural" sleep schedule seems to be go to bed around dawn and sleep about 8-10 hours
08:57 Muadtralk mine appears to be go to sleep around 8 EST and wake up around 2
08:57 Muadtralk of course I never seem to follow that
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09:02 VanessaE bedtime for me.  night all.
09:04 Oblivion1500 good night
09:04 Oblivion1500 im thinking i should just get rid of windows....
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09:05 Infinity_69 hi
09:05 Infinity_69 i need help with port forwarding :/
09:05 Infinity_69 i dont remember where is the password :/
09:05 Oblivion1500 ok all the files that i transfer over to my external will i still be able to access them like regular files on windows?
09:05 Infinity_69 who uses a Thomson TG84 router?
09:05 Oblivion1500 it probably is password
09:05 Oblivion1500 or admin
09:05 Infinity_69 no.
09:05 Oblivion1500 or user
09:06 Infinity_69 username is admin/Admin/administrator/Administrator
09:06 Infinity_69 but i remember the password was somewhere under the routers label
09:06 Oblivion1500 really, thats annoying
09:06 Infinity_69 what is?
09:06 Oblivion1500 having to look everywere to get a password for something you can just hardwire into and play with it
09:07 Infinity_69 umm...what?
09:07 Oblivion1500 i mean i can understand if it were wireless
09:07 Infinity_69 it does have wireless too...
09:07 Infinity_69 why?
09:07 Oblivion1500 but you can just plug into it and mess with it without all that nonsence
09:07 Infinity_69 but i use the Ethernet cable
09:08 Oblivion1500 hmm hold on let me google it for you
09:08 Infinity_69 already did
09:09 Oblivion1500 its your serial number
09:09 Infinity_69 and where is it?
09:09 Infinity_69 wait
09:09 Infinity_69 i think i know
09:09 Oblivion1500 its a bunch of numbers and letters that look like this AG$GR-GRGA4-GAGDFG-GG456
09:09 Infinity_69 oh
09:09 Infinity_69 OH YEAH
09:13 Infinity_69 umm there wasnt nothing like that
09:17 TheZenKitteh well hate to run but time for some shuteye
09:17 TheZenKitteh ta ta for now
09:17 enchilado I hate to run as well
09:17 thexyz 07:08  < iqualfragil> | yaay, nearly all of my torrents have a ratio greater then one! | http://i.imgur.com/ucM14.png
09:17 enchilado Such a waste of energy
09:18 enchilado I hope he's not pirating
09:18 thexyz enchilado: I'm from Russia
09:18 enchilado Erm... okay.
09:18 thexyz btw, enchilado, your texture of iron lump is awesome, do you plan to do more textures?
09:18 Infinity_69 I GOT IT!
09:18 Infinity_69 IM IN
09:18 Zetetic Oh, is enchi doing pixel work here?
09:19 enchilado thexyz: I'd like to, but I'm already very busy working on four different versions of a Minecraft texture pack. :S
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09:19 * Zetetic pats enchilado on the head
09:19 Zetetic good boy!
09:19 Infinity_69 gonna make a server soon
09:19 Infinity_69 Who wants to join?!
09:19 Infinity_69 ports 30000-?????
09:19 Infinity_69 what ports to forward
09:20 Infinity_69 and TCP or UDP
09:20 Infinity_69 i think UDP
09:20 Infinity_69 not sure tho
09:20 Oblivion1500 both
09:20 Infinity_69 Jordach
09:20 Jordach hmm?
09:20 Infinity_69 minetest server needs only port 30000?
09:22 enchilado Zetetic: well, I'm not sure. It would feel... odd to do textures for a game I've never played. I'm not even really sure why I want to.
09:23 Zetetic Still cool :)
09:23 Infinity_69 done :)
09:23 Infinity_69 hey ob...
09:23 Infinity_69 you wanna help me build a town?!
09:24 Zetetic I need to get an external IP so I can experiment with servers
09:24 Infinity_69 who wants to help me build
09:24 Infinity_69 how do i start the server?
09:25 Infinity_69 i never tried it on ubuntu :/
09:26 Infinity_69 hey!
09:26 Zetetic If I knew I'd tell you
09:27 Infinity_69 :/
09:27 Infinity_69 *chough*Windows sucks...*chough*
09:27 Oblivion1500 research is your friend
09:27 Infinity_69 Ob!
09:28 Zetetic Infinity_69: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
09:28 Infinity_69 how do i start a server @ ubuntu?
09:28 Zetetic The Fine Manual
09:28 Infinity_69 ok :)
09:28 Oblivion1500 that
09:28 enchilado I do think Minetest looks a bit too much like Minecraft and wouldn
09:28 enchilado Wrong button
09:28 Zetetic enchilado: I was tempted to make it look like TMW
09:28 enchilado Wouldn't mind helping make new textures that weren't so similar, if I could
09:28 Zetetic Mostly because mouboos are cute
09:28 enchilado Haha
09:29 Zetetic And the Minetest engine is less evil than eA :)
09:29 Infinity_69 who wants to help me build!?
09:29 OldCoder I can't help ATM but have fun
09:29 OldCoder Folks I am cycling my worlds briefly
09:29 OldCoder VanessaE, updating
09:30 Infinity_69 hi OC
09:30 Infinity_69 :)
09:30 OldCoder o/
09:30 Infinity_69 im getting my server up :)
09:30 OldCoder Good!
09:32 enchilado If I was making a game like Minetest I would probably try to make it look as different from Minecraft as possible, but a lot of things - ores, bookshelves - are almost identical... hrm...
09:33 celeron55 i don't think you can make it look that much different without people seeing it as odd
09:33 Oblivion1500 that is just textures, the way the game is run is way different
09:33 Infinity_69 |!up 90.190.79.31:30000
09:34 Infinity_69 !up 90.190.79.31
09:34 celeron55 i think all cars look the same; why do all of them look the same? :P
09:34 Minetest-tan Infinity_69: 90.190.79.31 seems to be down
09:34 Infinity_69 !up 90.190.79.31:30000
09:34 Minetest-tan Infinity_69: 90.190.79.31:30000 seems to be down
09:34 Infinity_69 wtf?!
09:34 Oblivion1500 |!up 90.190.79.31 30000
09:34 enchilado Oblivion1500: sure. I draw, so that's what I notice.
09:34 Oblivion1500 !up 90.190.79.31 30000
09:34 moltenbot Minetest server 90.190.79.31:30000 DOWN
09:34 Minetest-tan Oblivion1500: 90.190.79.31 30000 seems to be down
09:35 Oblivion1500 lol well draw it different
09:35 Infinity_69 When i want dope, i get dope!
09:35 enchilado I'd love to try drawing a complete new set of textures with a distinctive style--would there be any chance of them being used, though?
09:35 Infinity_69 When i want fuck, i get fuck.
09:35 Oblivion1500 your textures may get alot of credit in that area
09:36 Oblivion1500 it may actually be widely used.. i sure would try them out
09:36 Infinity_69 hey why cant i connect on my own server?
09:37 Infinity_69 !up 90.190.79.31:30000
09:37 Minetest-tan Infinity_69: 90.190.79.31:30000 seems to be down
09:37 Infinity_69 WTF
09:39 Oblivion1500 did you follow directions properly?
09:39 Infinity_69 !up 90.190.79.31:30000
09:39 Infinity_69 yes
09:39 Minetest-tan Infinity_69: 90.190.79.31:30000 seems to be down
09:39 Infinity_69 ?!
09:40 Infinity_69 !up 192.168.1.132:30000
09:40 thexyz enchilado: what did you mean by "would there be any chance of them being used"?
09:40 Minetest-tan Infinity_69: 192.168.1.132:30000 seems to be down
09:40 enchilado Oblivion1500: well, I'd like to help with the default textures rather than making a texture pack, if that was possible, because my main interest is to help and a texture pack doesn't really do that... I guess I could just do that, but my motivation would probably be rather less.
09:40 enchilado thexyz: ^
09:40 thexyz oh, got it
09:40 Infinity_69 how do i see my public IP?
09:42 Oblivion1500 well there arnt really that many textures in default, you can do it and im sure people will put it in there servers but the real trick would be to implament it from most mods...
09:42 Oblivion1500 im guessing you dont have a static ip Infinity_69
09:42 Infinity_69 well DUC No-Ip doesnt open :/
09:44 enchilado Oblivion1500: well, I don't really know much about Minetest yet--like how many mods there are, which ones people use mostly and such..
09:44 Oblivion1500 so you can have a themed server that has a decent amount of mods
09:44 Oblivion1500 if you played the game you would know.. look in the forums
09:45 enchilado I might try it at some point, but I don't think I'd enjoy it.
09:45 Infinity_69 !up 192.168.1.132:30000
09:45 Minetest-tan Infinity_69: 192.168.1.132:30000 seems to be down
09:45 Infinity_69 !up 90.190.79.31:30000
09:45 Minetest-tan Infinity_69: 90.190.79.31:30000 seems to be down
09:45 Infinity_69 oh screw this!
09:45 enchilado (I find Minecraft boring, so I imagine I would Minetest as well. Maybe not, I suppose)
09:46 Oblivion1500 they are 2 different games
09:46 enchilado Yes, I know, but still very similar.
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09:46 thexyz wait, not two
09:46 thexyz oh
09:46 Zeg9 Hi
09:46 enchilado Hi
09:47 Oblivion1500 well your making textures, so you can just dilly dally around and look at what you think needs to be changed
09:47 thexyz nvm
09:48 enchilado Oblivion1500: well, I think everything needs to be changed... :P
09:48 enchilado Once I've finished what I'm working on at the moment I guess I'll try something.
09:48 Oblivion1500 hey Zeg9: you want to update your protector mod to allow for 4 nodes to be created with one craft
09:49 Zeg9 Oblivion1500, thanks for reminding me :)
09:49 enchilado CHOCOLATE
09:49 enchilado Er, sorry.
09:49 Oblivion1500 good, i cant wait to see what you have in store for us
09:49 Oblivion1500 Zeg9: thats why im here :)
09:49 Oblivion1500 what are you working on at the moment?
09:49 enchilado I have a bar of roasted almond chocolate but I haven't tasted it yet, just smelt it, and it's driving my crazy. *cough*
09:50 Oblivion1500 if you dont mind me asking
09:50 enchilado A Minecraft texture pack.
09:50 Oblivion1500 oh
09:50 Zetetic enchilado: you wouldn't like it, send it to me
09:51 Oblivion1500 why the heck does time go by so fast?
09:51 enchilado Zetetic: I've had them a few times before and I'm pretty sure I'm going to like it a considerable amount.
09:51 Zetetic Are you in the presense of a large mass?
09:52 Zeg9 Oblivion1500, updated
09:52 Oblivion1500 ok great!
09:52 Oblivion1500 thanks
09:53 Oblivion1500 yea the earth
09:54 Zetetic I meant something more massive, could be causing time dilation
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09:58 Infinity_69 hi
09:58 Infinity_69 i need help with nodeblocks
09:58 Infinity_69 who can help me?
09:59 RealBadAngel another tree finished and tuned. Oaks with new textures and acorns : http://realbadangel.pl/oaks.png
10:12 Zeg9 It's a bit quiet today...
10:12 enchilado Too quiet.
10:13 Muadtralk just wait it will get interesting
10:14 * Muadtralk waits for the great irken army to come and enslave the humans
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10:19 Infinity_69 how do i apply nodeboxes?
10:20 celeron55 enchilado: if you want to work only if your work will be used upstream, do some examples and come show them on #minetest-dev - i think we will be able to choose whether to go with them or not
10:22 RealBadAngel and more "fruits"... http://realbadangel.pl/spruces_with_cones.png
10:26 celeron55 enchilado: also, if you find mine* boring, it would be interesting to hear what you would add/remove/change in order to make it not boring 8)
10:29 Zetetic Mouboos!
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10:32 Infinity_69 RBA
10:32 Infinity_69 help me?
10:32 Infinity_69 i need help with nodeboxes
10:32 Infinity_69 http://pastebin.com/fBbrKjAA
10:32 Infinity_69 look
10:32 Infinity_69 whats wrong
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10:41 RealBadAngel i havent played with nodeboxes too much
10:41 arvis Hello
10:41 arvis I am new at Minetest but I would like to try build something. Any good place/server to start?
10:45 arvis :(
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10:51 RealBadAngel arvis, http://minetest.org/worlds.html
10:51 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: OldCoder Minetest Server Nexus
10:52 arvis Thanks
10:52 OldCoder Hi!
10:53 OldCoder arvis, Ring me if you wish interact
10:53 OldCoder We prefer you try not to pour lava on everything
10:53 OldCoder If that is all right
10:53 arvis Ok ;)
10:53 OldCoder arvis we do wish that :( to be :)
10:53 OldCoder Go pick a world
10:53 OldCoder You can start in OpenMine right now
10:54 OldCoder It has default interact
10:54 arvis Ok, I will try
10:55 arvis I am joining now.
10:56 arvis Hmmm... not loading.
10:57 arvis Well, for now I don't wish to build anything special but I would like to get some fun by working with other miners etc.
10:57 arvis OldCoder: I can't join to OpenMine - 0% remaining.
10:58 arvis OldCoder, no, now it is 1%. :D
11:02 celeron55 does OldCoder utilize the curl media transfer ability?
11:03 OldCoder Hi
11:03 OldCoder celeron55, I do
11:03 celeron55 in that case, arvis: get this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4240
11:03 moltenbot celeron55's link: xyz's Minetest win32 builds (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
11:03 OldCoder If it does not work thexyz and I will debug it
11:03 celeron55 i guess arvis has the official 0.4.4 build which doesn't support it yet
11:04 arvis celeron55 You are right, well, I have Linux version.
11:04 celeron55 ah; is it the newest one from github, or something else?
11:05 arvis It is 0.4.4 version.
11:06 celeron55 there are two transfer schemes that minetest can use for gettin textures and sounds and stuff from a server - one is a slow UDP one, and the other one is a HTTP-based one which was added after the 0.4.4 release
11:06 celeron55 +g
11:06 arvis Ok
11:06 celeron55 so you need a newer version than the 0.4.4 release
11:06 arvis Ok :D
11:07 celeron55 for servers that have a lot of content
11:07 arvis Any servers with not so lot of content?
11:08 Oblivion1500 ok i have another linux question
11:08 Oblivion1500 could i do a frugal install and not need a dvd or anything,, just install from my HD?
11:08 arvis I know that you can install from HDD but I hadn't tried.
11:09 arvis I usually install form my USB drive.
11:10 arvis Oblivion1500: I think frugal installs are a bit difficult and you may get into the trouble because you need to partion your HD then select correct partions for installing etc.
11:11 Muadtralk zenoheld.minetest.net doesnt have much in the line of mods arvis
11:11 Oblivion1500 cant i just do that and wipe windows? then just have linux?
11:12 Oblivion1500 then i dont have to worry about any partition.. just make it so its all for my linux
11:12 arvis Oblivion1500: Anyway, I suggest to once install with DVD or USB-drive.
11:12 Oblivion1500 i have an sd card
11:12 arvis Hmmm..., maybe it may work also for SD card too.
11:12 ruskie it should
11:12 arvis Just use unetbootin.
11:13 ruskie if your system can boot from it
11:13 ruskie well unetbootin is one option
11:13 Oblivion1500 already got it all set up.. i have to make sure my system can boot from it though.. but it still wouldent hurt to install to the sd chip first
11:13 Oblivion1500 is there a better one?
11:13 ruskie some are enough to just raw copy the image to the device
11:15 arvis Muadtralk: Anyone is on that map/world?
11:15 arvis ruskie: Oblivion1500: I usually use unetbootin to install from my USB. Well, it doesn't work for Arch Linux based distros.
11:15 Muadtralk me and some other people
11:16 Muadtralk not on often but they do build still
11:16 Oblivion1500 i want to install mint
11:16 Oblivion1500 14
11:16 Oblivion1500 with cin desktop
11:17 arvis Then it should work fine. ;)
11:18 Oblivion1500 good, i hope my computer doesent shit
11:19 Oblivion1500 i just have to backup a bunch of files before i do anything
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11:21 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:29 Oblivion1500 hey
11:29 OldCoder PilzAdam, Hi
11:31 Oblivion1500 ok and last question, if i use UNetbootin how do i make a hard install, i dont want a live os i want it on my computer at start up.. i want to totally get rid of windows
11:33 arvis Oblivion1500: First you need to boot as a live-cd and then on the desktop there will be option to install mint on the hard drive.
11:33 Oblivion1500 ohhh, ok
11:34 arvis Or when yopu will boot up then there also will be option to directly install the Mint.
11:34 arvis And it the set-up process you will be asked to overwrite all the hard drive.
11:37 arvis Oblivion1500: Any other questions?
11:37 Oblivion1500 not at the moment, still backing up
11:38 arvis Ok
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11:45 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/trees.png some work on textures
11:45 Oblivion1500 ok im installing on sd
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11:47 webdesigner97 hi
11:48 arvis Zeg(?
11:48 arvis Zeg9?
11:48 Zeg9 Yeah?
11:48 arvis sebi32 wants interact.
11:48 arvis And I, arvis, too.
11:49 Oblivion1500 it seems to be stuck at 45%
11:49 Zeg9 ok, I'm coming
11:49 Oblivion1500 never mind
11:49 Oblivion1500 rebooting wish me luck
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12:02 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/some_trees.png
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12:03 RealBadAngel some ready models together
12:04 Zetetic Nice trees
12:04 Zetetic Did you genetically engineer them?
12:06 RealBadAngel those are L-Systems trees
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12:18 Oblivion1500 so it did a unable to find a medium containing a live file system
12:18 Oblivion1500 ...
12:21 Oblivion1500 anyone have any ideas?
12:22 Zeg9 RealBadAngel, nice trees
12:22 Zeg9 Oblivion1500, what are you talking about?
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12:22 Oblivion1500 im trying to install linux mint 14 via sd
12:22 Zeg9 sd... card?
12:22 Oblivion1500 yes
12:22 kizeren Does anyone know, Minetest use OSS/Alsa or whatever is default on the system?
12:23 Oblivion1500 and my comp can do it
12:23 Zeg9 kizeren, it uses openal
12:23 Oblivion1500 but i got nable to find a medium containing a live file system
12:23 Zeg9 so it uses what AL uses
12:23 Oblivion1500 unable*
12:23 Zeg9 Does it say that at boot or what?
12:23 Oblivion1500 no
12:24 Oblivion1500 it says it when it does the countdown or whatever
12:24 Oblivion1500 i guess thats boot
12:24 Oblivion1500 format card and try again?
12:24 Zeg9 What tool did you use to burn it to SD card?
12:24 Zeg9 And what is the card's partition system?
12:24 kizeren Zeg9 it seems to "steal" the sound away from every other program.  I had this happen once along time ago but can't remember if it was an ALSA or some other problem.
12:24 Oblivion1500 unetbootin
12:25 Oblivion1500 i beleave its FAT32
12:26 Zeg9 kizeren, do you use pulse, jack or something?
12:28 kizeren pulseaudio if I remember right
12:30 Zeg9 look at pavucontrol, maybe the other applications are muted
12:31 kizeren bash: pavucontrol: command not found
12:31 kizeren Hm....
12:31 Zeg9 install it
12:31 Zeg9 oblivion1500, what OS are you on ATM?
12:31 kizeren error: you cannot perform this operation unless you are root.
12:31 Jordach sudo su
12:31 kizeren That is what I get for waking up 3 hours early :)
12:31 Oblivion1500 this gay windows shit
12:32 kizeren Still working on my first cup of caffine
12:32 TheLastProject Oblivion1500: Do you need to insult gays like that? :P
12:32 Zeg9 Yeah lol
12:32 Oblivion1500 i mean gay as in flamming and over payed
12:33 Zeg9 Oblivion1500, I remember there is a nice USB creator in ubuntu's iso, maybe you can find it somewhere
12:33 Oblivion1500 it seemed to add the iso correctly
12:34 Oblivion1500 i got all the promps and stuff and the nice loading screen but then that error poped up
12:34 Oblivion1500 do i need to change from IDE to AHCI?
12:34 Zeg9 I don't think, the SD drive is on USB isn't it ?
12:35 Oblivion1500 no....
12:35 Oblivion1500 i dont think so
12:35 Oblivion1500 built in
12:36 Zeg9 Maybe try what you said... I have no clue about that
12:37 Oblivion1500 i dont want to screw up my windows reg though.. well untill i know i can install linux
12:38 Zeg9 Don't you have a CD drive or something simpler?
12:38 kizeren Zeg9 while that installs.  you would not by chance know how to do wool on OldCoders worlds would you?  Specifically black wool?
12:39 Oblivion1500 nope,
12:39 Oblivion1500 well i do have the drive but i dont have a dvd
12:43 Zeg9 kizeren, if there is the farming mod, you have to cultivate cotton
12:43 kizeren I thought so but looks like it is Jordach woolcraft he is using.
12:44 Zeg9 and, to craft black dye, you need a grinder. grind 1 coal lump and grind again the resulting dust
12:49 kizeren Sounds like this might be somewhat of a challenge.
12:51 Oblivion1500 im going to try YUMI
12:52 Zeg9 I remember that one
12:53 Oblivion1500 well it supports mint 14 the latest, so it must be updated.. the last one i used looked old as a rock
12:53 Oblivion1500 this one actually looks like its doing something lol
12:54 Oblivion1500 if i get the same problem im going to look for a usb stick
12:56 Oblivion1500 ok time to try again bye see ya in a bit
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13:06 Oblivion1500 so uhm,,, looked nice but still the same error
13:07 Oblivion1500 going to ask #linux
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13:47 Infinity_69 hey forum!
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13:48 PilzAdam meldrian, Hello!
13:49 Infinity_69 PilzAdam
13:49 Infinity_69 can you help me troubleshoot my mod?
13:49 Infinity_69 idk why, but for some reason it doesnt work
13:50 Infinity_69 <Invalid Multibyte String>
13:52 meldrian hey PilzAdam :)
13:52 Infinity_69 meldrian
13:52 Infinity_69 can you help me?
13:53 Infinity_69 when i start a game with my mod, it puts an error
13:53 Infinity_69 <Invalid Multibyte String>
13:53 PilzAdam meldrian, are you the one who made the "Ich spiele Minetest" LPs?
13:53 meldrian well, i guess not? I'm not into modding, just a player :)
13:53 Infinity_69 oh ok :/
13:53 meldrian PilzAdam, jeapp, itse mee
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13:53 Infinity_69 PilzAdam
13:53 Infinity_69 <Invalid Multibyte String>
13:53 Infinity_69 what does that mean
13:53 Infinity_69 it was with YOUR fork :D
13:54 Jeija Hi meldrian!
13:54 meldrian Hi there Jeija
13:54 PilzAdam /IGNORE Infinity_69 all
13:54 PilzAdam meldrian, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4419
13:54 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: [German][Mod] Wilson [wilson] (Page 1) - Discussion in other languages - Minetest Forums
13:54 Infinity_69 why?
13:54 Infinity_69 no really, help me please!
13:55 meldrian No REALLY? U did Wilson? :D
13:55 meldrian great!
13:55 meldrian ^^
13:56 Infinity_69 meldrian, nice voice you got :D
13:56 Infinity_69 for some reason, i sound like my mom when i use my mic... :/
13:56 Infinity_69 dunno why
13:57 meldrian well ehm... thank you Infinity_69 :)
13:57 Infinity_69 :D
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14:03 Infinity_69 NakedFury
14:03 Infinity_69 where's the minetest.conf on ubuntu?
14:04 Zeg9 infinity_69...
14:04 Infinity_69 hi Zeg
14:04 Infinity_69 :D
14:04 Zeg9 wiki is your friend
14:04 meldrian PilzAdam, http://i.imgur.com/xIGJV.jpg ;)
14:04 PilzAdam Ich hab die Texturen selbst gemalt :-)
14:05 Infinity_69 Ich ben ein Ragnar :D
14:06 Zeg9 Ich bin ton pere
14:06 Zeg9 il a free, il a tout compris
14:06 Infinity_69 is it in the minetest folder?
14:06 Infinity_69 cause i just searched and it wasnt :/
14:06 Infinity_69 only minetest.conf.example
14:06 Infinity_69 :/
14:06 Zeg9 Infinity_69, ~/.minetest/
14:06 Infinity_69 ko
14:06 Infinity_69 ok
14:07 Infinity_69 how do i open it with the term.?
14:07 Zeg9 gedit ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
14:07 Zeg9 or nano ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
14:07 Zeg9 or vim ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
14:07 Zeg9 or vi ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
14:07 * Zeg9 has been kicked for spamming
14:11 Jordach hey OldCoder
14:11 OldCoder hi
14:11 OldCoder !
14:12 * Jordach has seen that you have been busy
14:12 OldCoder Yep
14:20 Jordach OldCoder, the other day i found something strange (car boot sale), an intel "bubble" memory node
14:22 PilzAdam meldrian, btw: mein nick wird deutsch ausgesprochen
14:23 meldrian check, ich werde es mir einprägen. Nichts für ungut
14:24 OldCoder
14:24 OldCoder Hmm
14:24 OldCoder That goes back a ways Jordach
14:24 PilzAdam bbl
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14:31 kaeza good morning :)
14:40 Exio hi kaeza!
14:40 Exio kaeza: can you help me? i need someone from argentina/uruguay for a ping :P
14:40 kaeza sure
14:41 Exio query?
14:46 Zetetic Are there any mods for clothing that modifies the skin?
14:46 Zetetic I'm searching but I've not found anything
14:52 kaeza Zetetic, Zeg9's in-game skin switcher
14:53 Zeg9 Hi
14:53 kaeza hey zeg
14:53 Zetetic kaeza: that's a cool thing and what made me think of the question but not what I meant
14:53 Zetetic I was thinking clothes you can wear that only change part of your skin, like jumpers and trousers
14:54 Zeg9 Zetetic, maybe it would be possible to attach clothes to players instead of changing their texture
14:54 Zeg9 and no, there is no mod that does that I thikn
14:54 kaeza Zeg9, look at 3d armor
14:54 Zetetic Could attached clotthe move with the arms
14:54 Zetetic ?
14:54 Zeg9 Oh, it has been made already?
14:54 Zetetic And legs
14:54 Zeg9 Zetetic, yes but I'm not sure it will be sync
14:54 kaeza Zeg9, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4420
14:54 moltenbot kaeza's link: 3d Armor - need help! (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
14:55 kaeza Zetetic, ^
14:55 Zetetic Interesting, thanks
14:58 kaeza np
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15:02 Oblivion1500 hello anyone with linux exp help please.. im new to all this jaz and i cant even figure out how to install something i downloaded.. im using mint which i thought was slackware but pkgtools dont work or i just dont know how to use them
15:04 kaeza Oblivion1500, > #mint
15:04 thexyz usually you don't have to download something, most packages are availible from apt, and yes, →#mint
15:04 thexyz *anything
15:05 Oblivion1500 apt?
15:05 Zetetic Fast moving things like games are often painfully out of date from repos though
15:07 kaeza Oblivion1500, > #linuxmint *
15:07 Oblivion1500 ahh
15:07 Oblivion1500 yea mint didnt work
15:09 Oblivion1500 thanks!
15:11 kaeza yw
15:12 Oblivion1500 so uhm yea nobody wants to talk to me lol
15:12 Oblivion1500 or nobody is talking at all
15:13 Exio any way to "attach" info to a tool?
15:13 Zeg9 Exio, see technic's source for rechargeable stuff
15:14 Exio ok :)
15:14 kaeza Oblivion1500, heh yeah
15:15 kaeza you gotta be patient to the extreme of patience
15:17 * OldCoder will rest now
15:17 OldCoder Oblivion1500, Hi
15:17 OldCoder Oblivion1500, we'll chat later
15:17 OldCoder I need to rest for a bit
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15:19 kaeza wowow! we are more popular than MC? http://www.lgdb.org/category/game_modes/sandbox
15:19 moltenbot kaeza's link: Sandbox games by popularity | Linux game database
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15:25 Calinou lol
15:26 Zeg9 Weird
15:27 klunk >linux< database could explain that
15:28 Exio mc runs in linux
15:28 Exio so..
15:28 klunk java had so bad reputation
15:28 Exio for me, it isn't just the "reputation", java sucks for a game
15:29 klunk price should increase popularity too
15:29 klunk yes :-)
15:29 klunk by the way, good new !
15:30 Exio 2 FPS in MC with a 16x texture pack /10 fps in "optimized" places/ and 50 in MT with a 512x texture pack *here*
15:30 Calinou Exio: no u
15:30 Exio wat
15:31 Calinou minecraft is slow because it is unoptimized, not because it uses java
15:31 Exio Calinou: java lover
15:31 Exio really?
15:31 Calinou RAM is cheap and java is only 15% slower than C++, but yes, using C++ would've been a better choice (but we don't want to use wine -- so we'd have to convince mojang to make the game for linux)
15:32 Exio java in graphics terms?
15:32 kizeren I don't use wine to play minecraft on linux.....
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15:32 Calinou yes
15:32 Calinou but if it was C++ we would
15:32 Exio well, k, if you say it
15:32 Calinou I don't see mojang making a linux port :P
15:32 kizeren Oooo I see now what you mean.
15:32 Calinou OS X probably, though
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15:44 Dogzilla131 Whats the name of a mod that add hammers and woodcutters?
15:44 Calinou Dogzilla131: workers?
15:45 Dogzilla131 not npc, but tool
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15:52 klunk this mod ? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 (industrial)
15:52 moltenbot klunk's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
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15:59 RealBadAngel how do you like this prototype? http://realbadangel.pl/palms.png
16:00 klunk a lot ...
16:00 Zeg9 RealBadAngel, love it
16:00 PilzAdam the trunk shouldnt be a straight line
16:02 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, but it would like stupid thx to size of nodes i afraid
16:02 RealBadAngel but i can give it a try
16:02 PilzAdam yea, prolly
16:05 RealBadAngel nah, looks like shit, its not even worth a screenshot ;)
16:07 * Kacey wants to get on xbox live
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16:09 klunk (Zeg9: bridges didn't work yesterday on Zegaton, for I and rotor. Perhaps it as something to deal with my version (0.4.4) and fact server is running 0.4.4-d1 ?)
16:09 delicado hi can minetest use shaders?
16:09 Zeg9 klunk, bridge crafting or what?
16:09 Calinou xbox live--
16:09 Calinou delicado: can't you read changelogs? yes it can
16:09 Calinou GLSL shaders
16:09 PilzAdam delicado, there are shaders in 0.4.4
16:10 Calinou no HLSL
16:10 klunk Zeg9: recipe didn't work (vines and stuff in the middle =impossible to obtain "bridge floor" stuff
16:10 delicado oh good.
16:11 Zeg9 klunk, yeah, it's because of stairsplus. If you want I can exchange stairsplus slabs for normal ones that will work in the recipe
16:11 delicado one more question from me, whats the most populated minetest server right now and free?
16:12 Calinou "free", there are no pay-to-play servers as of today :P
16:12 Calinou redcrab.suret.net port 30401
16:12 klunk Zeg9: hmmm, thanks! but I don't know how it affects other players and what they will prefer
16:12 klunk I can't really figure what we will loose and what we will win
16:12 delicado yeah thanks.
16:13 Zeg9 You will loose a slab, and win a slab that can be used to craft bridges.
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16:14 klunk Zeg9: if they are no risk to affect old buildings, why not ?
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16:15 Zeg9 klunk, je demanderais à OldCoder de changer la recette plus tard. La il dort.
16:15 klunk Zeg9: sur, aucun problème :-)
16:15 NekoGloop Oh, i must have logged into the wrong channel
16:15 klunk thanks !
16:16 klunk ha ha ! you are coming just at the bad moment !
16:17 NekoGloop Love that engrish.
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16:19 klunk NekoGloop: yes , sorry, at least it is mine (home made ...) and not google trad
16:19 Kacey afk
16:19 NekoGloop Lol
16:21 NekoGloop I just died in nethack on the second floor O.o
16:22 Zetetic Hmm, I wonder how easy it would be to repurpose the NetHack level generator :D
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16:42 Kacey back
16:43 Kacey haha
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16:43 thexyz !seen thexyz
16:43 Minetest-tan thexyz: ?
16:43 thexyz !seen sfan5
16:43 Minetest-tan thexyz: Sorry, I haven't seen sfan5 around.
16:44 sfan5 test
16:44 sfan5 !seen sfan5
16:44 Minetest-tan sfan5: sfan5 was last seen at 2013-01-12 16:44:09 UTC on #minetest
16:44 sfan5 i need to write something..
16:44 Kacey i can see again!!!!
16:45 sfan5 !seen Kacey
16:45 Minetest-tan sfan5: kacey was last seen at 2013-01-12 16:44:49 UTC on #minetest
16:45 thexyz| thexyz: lol
16:45 thexyz hm
16:45 NekoGloop !seen thexyzl
16:45 Minetest-tan NekoGloop: Sorry, I haven't seen thexyzl around.
16:46 thexyz how's that one supposed to work
16:46 Kacey !seen thexyz|
16:46 Minetest-tan Kacey: thexyz| was last seen at 2013-01-12 16:45:31 UTC on #minetest
16:46 NekoGloop Uppercase i isnt it.
16:46 thexyz pipe
16:46 NekoGloop Curse you sans serif font.
16:46 Kacey no
16:46 Kacey not an l
16:47 Kacey | not l
16:47 Kacey shift + \ key
16:47 PilzAdam AltGr + < on a german qwertz layout
16:48 NekoGloop ah.
16:48 NekoGloop |
16:49 NekoGloop too many things look like the same fucking thing in this font.
16:49 PilzAdam NekoGloop, next challenge: find ¬ on your keyboard
16:49 PilzAdam :-)
16:49 Zetetic PilzAdam: shift + `
16:49 Zetetic Where else would it be?
16:50 NekoGloop It's not even accessible for me
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16:50 NekoGloop I dont have a real keyboard currently ;)
16:50 Zetetic Android?
16:50 Kacey ¬ i win
16:50 Zetetic It's on the Hacker's Keyboard somewhere
16:50 PilzAdam its AltGr + 6 on a german layout
16:50 Minetest-tan joined #minetest
16:50 Kacey ~
16:51 Kacey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ tildes
16:51 thexyz| thexyz: test
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16:52 thexyz yes?
16:52 thexyz| oh, wait
16:52 thexyz| !tell thexyz he's awesome
16:52 Kacey oops
16:52 thexyz| um..
16:52 Kacey timed out of the nick
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16:53 sfan5 !q
16:53 MinetestBot Shut up! Shut up! -Norman Bates(Psycho)
16:53 sfan5 !q
16:53 MinetestBot Woah. That guy looks *really* pissed. -Ginny(Die Hard)
16:53 sfan5 !q
16:53 MinetestBot I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. -Galileo Galilei
16:53 sfan5 !qoute
16:54 Kacey !q
16:54 MinetestBot I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. -Galileo Galilei
16:54 Kacey !joke
16:54 sfan5 !quote
16:54 MinetestBot Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. -Martin Luther King, Jr.
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16:54 sfan5 !quote
16:54 MinetestBot In their proper place, the depths. -Joh Frederson(Metropolis)
16:54 Infinity_69 hi sfan5
16:54 sfan5 hi
16:54 Infinity_69 can you help me?
16:54 Kacey !commands
16:54 moltenbot Try !up <hostname.org> !teach <topic> !ping <hostname.org> [<port>] !date [timezone] !define <word> !joke
16:55 Infinity_69 i tried to install a txture pack, but it doesnt apply...
16:55 Infinity_69 i dont know why
16:55 sfan5 Kacey: that are moltenbot's commands
16:55 sfan5 !seen MinetestBot
16:55 Minetest-tan sfan5: minetestbot was last seen at 2013-01-12 16:54:24 UTC on #minetest
16:55 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen minetestbot around.
16:55 Kacey ooh
16:55 sfan5 lol
16:55 sfan5 lol
16:55 sfan5 !seen MinetestBot
16:55 Minetest-tan sfan5: minetestbot was last seen at 2013-01-12 16:55:33 UTC on #minetest
16:55 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen minetestbot around.
16:55 Infinity_69 sfan5
16:55 Infinity_69 i tried to install a txture pack, but it doesnt apply...
16:55 Infinity_69 i dont know why
16:56 sfan5 hm
16:56 Infinity_69 can you help?
16:56 Kacey !teach google
16:56 sfan5 yes
16:56 Infinity_69 i have 3 minetests
16:56 sfan5 !g google
16:56 Minetest-tan sfan5: http://www.google.com/
16:56 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.google.com/
16:56 moltenbot MinetestBot's link: Google
16:56 PilzAdam !wik Texture Pack
16:56 Minetest-tan "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Texture_Pack
16:56 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Texture_Pack
16:56 Kacey damnit what can moltenbot teach?
16:56 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit
16:57 Infinity_69 lawl :D
16:57 Kacey Minetest-tan: quit
16:57 Kacey damn
16:57 sfan5 *facepalm*
16:57 sfan5 Minetest-tan, reload seen
16:57 Minetest-tan sfan5: <module 'seen' from '/home/minetest/bot/modules/seen.pyc'> (version: 2013-01-12 16:43:04)
16:57 sfan5 !seen sfan5
16:57 Minetest-tan sfan5: sfan5 was last seen at 2013-01-12 16:57:41 UTC on #minetest
16:58 sfan5 !tell sfan5 hello
16:58 Infinity_69 sfan5
16:58 Infinity_69 any help coming yet?
16:58 sfan5 ...
16:58 sfan5 in which folder did you put them?
16:58 Infinity_69 in minetest
16:58 Infinity_69 and changed the minetest.conf in ~/.minetest/
16:59 sfan5 which texture pack are your trying to install?
16:59 Infinity_69 Doku
16:59 Infinity_69 awesome one :D
16:59 sfan5 link?
16:59 NakedFury textures go in textures>all
16:59 sfan5 ^
16:59 NekoGloop Attack of the bots!
16:59 Infinity_69 wait
17:00 NakedFury that folder has a txt file called textures_here
17:00 Infinity_69 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3313
17:01 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/palms2.png
17:01 RealBadAngel actually now it doesnt look that bad :)
17:01 sfan5 RealBadAngel: nice
17:01 kaeza RealBadAngel, excellent!
17:01 kaeza and hi :)
17:01 RealBadAngel hi
17:02 Infinity_69 wait...
17:02 RealBadAngel need to make small fix to the treegen engine for palms to work perfectly
17:02 Infinity_69 0.4.3 & 0.4.4 textures arent compatable arent they?
17:03 RealBadAngel i need turtle command to place a fruit (coconut) and f command shall draw leaves with 100% chance
17:03 Infinity_69 thexyz
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17:03 Infinity_69 are 0.4.3 & 0.4.4 texturepacks compatable?
17:03 sfan5 should be
17:03 Infinity_69 oh
17:04 Infinity_69 for some reason, on the wiki, it said, that they arent
17:04 kaeza !seen kaeza
17:04 Minetest-tan kaeza: Sorry, I haven't seen kaeza around.
17:04 kaeza ?
17:04 thexyz !seen kaeza
17:04 Minetest-tan thexyz: kaeza was last seen at 2013-01-12 17:04:11 UTC on #minetest
17:04 Infinity_69 or somewhere
17:04 sfan5 kaeza: you have to write something for Minetest-tan to notice your
17:04 sfan5 -r
17:04 kaeza oh
17:05 thexyz Minetest-tan: tell thexyz something
17:05 Minetest-tan You can tell yourself that.
17:05 thexyz =(
17:05 Infinity_69 btw...
17:05 sfan5 Minetest-tan: tell enchilado hello
17:05 Minetest-tan sfan5: I'll pass that on when enchilado is around.
17:05 Infinity_69 look at the compatability on Doku Test
17:05 Zetetic Minetest-tan: help
17:05 Zetetic Hmm, not a Phenny
17:05 kaeza Minetest-tan, tell sfan5 +1
17:05 Minetest-tan RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration (file "/home/minetest/bot/modules/tell.py", line 30, in dumpReminders)
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17:06 sfan5 Zetetic: it uses phenny
17:06 Minetest-tan sfan5: 17:05Z <kaeza> tell sfan5 +1
17:06 Infinity_69 DokuTest supports: Versions: 0.4.3 0.4.2 0.3.1
17:06 Zetetic Ah, alright
17:06 Infinity_69 hey are there any good 0.4.3 servers left?
17:06 thexyz lol
17:06 sfan5 Zetetic: it just has customised modules https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules
17:07 moltenbot sfan5's link: sfan5/minetestbot-modules ? GitHub
17:07 Zetetic Fair enough
17:07 Infinity_69 !g minetest 0.4.3 source cpde git
17:07 Minetest-tan Infinity_69: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
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17:07 Infinity_69 thats 0.4.4, you moron!
17:07 thexyz sfan5: how about fixing that one?
17:07 sfan5 *facepalm*
17:08 Infinity_69 hey where is a 0.4.3 source code?
17:08 sfan5 thexyz: ...
17:08 Zeg9 Infinity_69, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/0.4.3
17:08 moltenbot Zeg9's link: celeron55/minetest at 0.4.3 ? GitHub
17:08 thexyz Minetest-tan: tell sfan5 something
17:08 Minetest-tan thexyz: I'll pass that on when sfan5 is around.
17:08 thexyz k
17:09 sfan5 thexyz: seems to be a race condition with threads, i can't solve that so easily
17:09 Minetest-tan sfan5: 17:08Z <thexyz> tell sfan5 something
17:09 sfan5 thank you Minetest-tan
17:12 RealBadAngel welcome to Palm Beach ;) http://realbadangel.pl/palms3.png
17:12 kaeza RealBadAngel, WOW
17:13 kaeza but why aren't the trunks generated?
17:13 thexyz sfan5: http://docs.python.org/2/library/stdtypes.html#dict.copy
17:13 kaeza oh sorry
17:13 kaeza me and my poor vision lol
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17:14 sfan5 thexyz: that doesn't help me
17:14 jojoa1997 why wont the tool i made dig the node i made http://paste.ubuntu.com/1524228/
17:14 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin
17:15 jojoa1997 look at the groups
17:15 Infinity_69 how do i delete a folder with the term.?
17:15 RealBadAngel view from above http://realbadangel.pl/palms4.png
17:15 thexyz sfan5: dict.copy() is atomic so it should be safe to copy dict before iterating over it
17:15 sfan5 oh..
17:16 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, nice
17:17 RealBadAngel kaeza, what do you mean "not generated"?
17:17 kaeza my bad, I didn't se the trunks lol
17:17 kaeza I have very poor vision
17:17 RealBadAngel hehe
17:18 jojoa1997 do you guys know what is wrong. the tool wont dig anyhting.
17:18 thexyz !up 31.131.27.150:3000
17:18 moltenbot Minetest server 31.131.27.150:3000:3000 DOWN
17:18 Infinity_69 http://www.lulztruck.com/53069/this-ruined-harry-potter-for-me-wtf-2/
17:18 Minetest-tan thexyz: 31.131.27.150:3000 seems to be down
17:18 Infinity_69 look at THIS!
17:18 thexyz !up 31.131.27.150:30000
17:18 moltenbot Minetest server 31.131.27.150:30000:30000 DOWN
17:18 Minetest-tan thexyz: 31.131.27.150:30000 is up (0.207ms)
17:18 PilzAdam Minetest-tan, tell RealBadAngel that his palm trees are nice
17:18 Minetest-tan PilzAdam: I'll pass that on when RealBadAngel is around.
17:18 kaeza wat
17:19 RealBadAngel lol
17:19 Minetest-tan RealBadAngel: 17:18Z <PilzAdam> tell RealBadAngel that his palm trees are nice
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17:20 Jordach Minetest-tan, tell Minetest-tan I'll pass that on when Minetest-tan is around.
17:20 Minetest-tan Jordach: I'll pass that on when Minetest-tan is around.
17:20 Jordach now lets watch.
17:20 RealBadAngel so, now just pine trees (with cones) and sequoias and i will have 10 trees ready
17:20 kaeza !up google.com
17:20 moltenbot Minetest server google.com:30000 DOWN
17:20 Minetest-tan kaeza: google.com seems to be down
17:21 kaeza Minetest-tan, tell Minetest-tan tell Minetest-tan tell Minetest-tan
17:21 Minetest-tan kaeza: I'll pass that on when Minetest-tan is around.
17:21 sfan5 !sh
17:21 Minetest-tan sfan5: Give me an url shorten service and an address
17:21 Minetest-tan sfan5: Supported Services: is.gd, v.gd
17:21 sfan5 kaeza: it doen't work
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17:22 sfan5 Minetest-tan, tell MinetestBot tell Minetest-tan tell MinetestBot
17:22 Minetest-tan sfan5: I'll pass that on when MinetestBot is around.
17:23 sfan5 !sh
17:23 MinetestBot sfan5: Give me an url shorten service and an address
17:23 Minetest-tan sfan5: Give me an url shorten service and an address
17:23 MinetestBot sfan5: Supported Services: is.gd, v.gd
17:23 Minetest-tan sfan5: Supported Services: is.gd, v.gd
17:23 Minetest-tan MinetestBot: 17:22Z <sfan5> tell MinetestBot tell Minetest-tan tell MinetestBot
17:23 Minetest-tan KeyError: 'minetestbot' (file "/home/minetest/bot/modules/tell.py", line 101, in getReminders)
17:23 thexyz awesome
17:23 sfan5 uhh
17:23 NekoGloop holy shit
17:23 NekoGloop ;-)
17:23 sfan5 !q
17:23 MinetestBot Man is a clever animal who behaves like an imbecile. -Albert Schweitzer
17:25 NekoGloop !q
17:25 MinetestBot Woah. That guy looks *really* pissed. -Ginny(Die Hard)
17:25 Zeg9 !q
17:25 MinetestBot Shut up! Shut up! -Norman Bates(Psycho)
17:25 Zeg9 :(
17:25 thexyz oh no, not again
17:25 sfan5 !quote
17:25 MinetestBot In their proper place, the depths. -Joh Frederson(Metropolis)
17:28 thexyz sfan5: wtf
17:28 Jordach !quote
17:28 MinetestBot I guarantee it. -Marty McFly(Back to the Future)
17:28 Jordach yay!
17:30 NekoGloop !quote
17:30 MinetestBot You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself. -Galileo Galilei
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17:40 Jordach !quote
17:40 MinetestBot It is better to offer no excuse than a bad one. -George Washington
17:49 john_minetest 99% of the quotes in internet are fake. - Abraham Lincoln
17:50 Jordach john_minetest, on*
17:50 john_minetest Oh.
17:51 Jordach !quote
17:51 MinetestBot Those who do not complain are never pitied. -Jane Austen
17:51 john_minetest Jordach: Just copy-and-pasted the german grammar :)
17:51 PilzAdam copy just the german grammar
17:54 Zetetic A witty saying proves nothing. –Voltaire
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18:00 Kacey is there a name for the default player texture?
18:01 Kacey like MC's Steve?
18:01 PilzAdam character.png
18:01 Kacey we need to name him
18:01 PilzAdam he has a name
18:01 Kacey what is it
18:01 PilzAdam character.png
18:01 Kacey like a name name not file name
18:02 Kacey how about Frank?
18:02 Zetetic Looks more like a Gerald
18:02 PilzAdam It looks like character.png to me
18:03 Zetetic The PNG is just the skin though, right?
18:03 Kacey im calling him Bob
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18:04 Kacey jojoa1997 hi
18:04 jojoa1997 who wants to try out my spleef arena mod
18:04 jojoa1997 kacey hi
18:04 Kacey i want to name the default player
18:05 jojoa1997 what default player
18:05 jojoa1997 was that to me?
18:05 Kacey anyone
18:05 Kacey but give him a name like MC's Steve
18:06 jojoa1997 Kacey you want to test my spleef_arena mod
18:06 Kacey no i have the lagz today
18:06 jojoa1997 GET A BETTER COMPUTER
18:07 jojoa1997 ;-)
18:07 Kacey cant
18:07 Kacey i have no monet
18:07 Kacey money, even
18:07 Zetetic jojoa1997: what's a "spleef"?
18:08 jojoa1997 you sure you dont want to try it. the mod has only 2 blocks and one tool
18:08 jojoa1997 it is a game
18:08 Zetetic K
18:08 jojoa1997 it is where 2 players are in an arena and they try to make the other fall
18:08 jojoa1997 one sec
18:10 jojoa1997 finding a video
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18:10 klunk jojoa1997: spleef={times={[1]=2.0, [2]=1.0, [3]=>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<.1}, maxwear=0.05, maxlevel=1},  you should put a number ?
18:11 jojoa1997 here is a spleef video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcWW5tpJTks
18:11 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Things to do in: Minecraft - Spleef - YouTube
18:11 jojoa1997 klunk is that from an earlier post
18:12 klunk ? your tool is working on your node now ?
18:12 jojoa1997 cause the prob was that the nodes had groups = {} instead of groupS = {}
18:12 jojoa1997 the "s" is exagerated
18:12 jojoa1997 klunk: want to test it
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18:13 jojoa1997 here is github https://github.com/jojoa1997/spleef_arena.git
18:13 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: jojoa1997/spleef_arena ? GitHub
18:13 klunk no thanks I can't now
18:15 rarkenin_ !up rarkenindyn.mooo.com
18:15 Minetest-tan rarkenin_: rarkenindyn.mooo.com is up (0.376ms)
18:15 MinetestBot rarkenin_: rarkenindyn.mooo.com is up (0.578ms)
18:15 moltenbot Minetest server rarkenindyn.mooo.com:30000 UP
18:16 jojoa1997 VanessaE: you there?
18:17 PilzAdam Minetest-tan, tell VanessaE that she is back now
18:19 thexyz PilzAdam: i disabled this feature
18:19 PilzAdam I noticed that
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18:41 * Kacey wants to experiment with mesecons, but cant
18:41 Infinity_69 hey i saw that when i compiled minetest, it doesnt have minetest_game in it :/
18:42 Infinity_69 so how do i get it?
18:42 Infinity_69 i want a 0.4.3 version
18:42 PilzAdam do you use git?
18:42 Infinity_69 umm...
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18:42 Infinity_69 i download from there, but i dont use it myself...
18:42 Infinity_69 dunno how
18:42 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/tree/0.4.3
18:42 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: celeron55/minetest_game at 0.4.3 ? GitHub
18:43 Infinity_69 it doesnt have the minetest_game in the games folder
18:43 Infinity_69 i already checked that
18:43 Infinity_69 oh
18:43 Infinity_69 :D
18:43 Infinity_69 thanks
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18:43 Infinity_69 it looked similar to the 0.4.3 source code link...
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18:44 jojoa1997 VanessaE: Restart your server mapgen super lag
18:44 Infinity_69 ok, thanks PilzAdam, and bye fornow...
18:45 Infinity_69 oh, and before i forget, is there any good/populated 0.4.3 servers left?
18:45 NekoGloop xchat looks like crap
18:45 NekoGloop look better than webchat
18:45 Zetetic That's why you should use emacs
18:45 Infinity_69 NekoGloop
18:45 thexyz NekoGloop: irssi
18:45 NekoGloop no and no
18:46 Infinity_69 do you know any good 0.4.3 servers?
18:46 NekoGloop no
18:46 Infinity_69 oh :/
18:46 Infinity_69 ok
18:46 Zetetic irssi is too hard for me :(
18:46 Infinity_69 whats irssi?
18:47 Zetetic An IRC client
18:47 Infinity_69 oh
18:47 thexyz Zetetic: ...of the future
18:47 NekoGloop thexyz: ...of the past
18:47 Infinity_69 :D
18:47 Zetetic thexyz: nonsense, it's not written in Lisp
18:47 Zetetic We'll win eventually...
18:47 thexyz NekoGloop: why?
18:48 thexyz well, lisp is awesome
18:48 Zetetic Emacs Lisp isn't @(
18:54 Kacey i wish i had my xbox here
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19:02 NekoGloop irssi sucks, it doesnt even start up
19:02 NekoGloop xchat sucks, you have to buy it.
19:03 jojoa1997 OldCoder you there
19:03 Zeg9 Nekogloop, what about HexChat?
19:04 NekoGloop >windows
19:04 Gambit Quassel.
19:04 NekoGloop how about i stick with good ol' free webchat
19:04 NekoGloop seeing as it a) works properly and b) is free.
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19:05 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F35bcEVHusw
19:05 moltenbot Kacey's link: How to Make a Hyperion Cannon in Minecraft - YouTube
19:05 thexyz webchat is awful
19:06 NekoGloop but it works
19:06 NekoGloop unlike irssi
19:06 thexyz well
19:06 thexyz i'm chatting from irssi now
19:06 thexyz it works
19:07 thexyz but even non-working irssi is better than webchat
19:07 NekoGloop hah no
19:07 NekoGloop irssi is in no way any "irc of the future"
19:07 NekoGloop it's a fucking command line interface.
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19:09 Calinou GUIs are not always better, but GUI IRC clients definitely are
19:09 Calinou IRC is fairly complicated
19:09 Gambit channel and user lists are best manipulated with a cursor
19:10 thexyz what do you need user list for?
19:10 Calinou for seeing who is online?
19:10 Gambit to quickly see who is online
19:10 Calinou /names is so 1995
19:10 Calinou Zeg9: hexchat ftw :3
19:10 thexyz yes, /names
19:11 Calinou <NekoGloop> xchat sucks, you have to buy it. <= no...
19:11 Calinou thexyz: we're in 2013
19:11 thexyz so what?
19:11 Calinou we like having another tab with an user list
19:11 Calinou to see who is online and who is op
19:11 thexyz that's an option too
19:11 thexyz (in irssi)
19:11 * Zeg9 is trying to find out why his "game" has a segfault on exit !
19:11 Calinou yeah but how can you click the users?
19:11 thexyz i mean, it's configurable
19:11 Calinou to see their whois quickly :P
19:11 Calinou or kick/ban them
19:11 thexyz to see their whois quickly i type /whois name
19:12 thexyz it takes less time
19:13 Calinou then you have to switch to server tab
19:13 Calinou (noone wants to see server notices in channels)
19:13 thexyz yes, so I press alt+1
19:13 NekoGloop Calinou: yes you do
19:13 Calinou alt+shift+1
19:13 thexyz that still takes less time than moving cursor, clicking, clicking, clicking
19:13 Calinou FTFY
19:13 thexyz no, alt+f1
19:13 Calinou (azerty here)
19:14 thexyz +1
19:14 thexyz oh
19:14 Calinou some languages have characters like é, blame them
19:15 thexyz can I configure xchat to show all highlights in different "window"?
19:15 Calinou no
19:16 thexyz http://ompldr.org/vaDFyYw
19:16 thexyz too bad
19:16 Calinou you still have to type /names constantly to see users
19:16 Calinou also you don't see seconds in timestamp :p
19:17 Calinou (why don't ALL IRC clients do this...)
19:17 thexyz well, I can *configure* it
19:17 thexyz but I don't need to see nicknames all the time
19:17 thexyz http://wouter.coekaerts.be/irssi/nicklist
19:19 Zeg9 Bye all
19:20 PilzAdam thexyz, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/422
19:20 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Drop nodes as items when dugged and no room in inventory and dont remove... by PilzAdam ? Pull Request #422 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
19:22 NekoGloop PilzAdam: dug* and fix that grammer :P
19:23 kizeren dugged
19:23 RealBadAngel reworked palms a bit: http://realbadangel.pl/palms2.png http://realbadangel.pl/palms1.png
19:23 thexyz PilzAdam: why do you math.random(60)/60
19:23 thexyz ?
19:23 thexyz >math.random() with no arguments generates a real number between 0 and 1.
19:23 NekoGloop kizeren: dug*
19:23 Infinity_69 i have a git!
19:23 thexyz who cares
19:23 Infinity_69 :D
19:24 Infinity_69 idk...
19:24 Infinity_69 :/
19:24 kizeren hehe atleast it wasn't digged.
19:24 Infinity_69 :\
19:24 thexyz that message was directed to NekoGloop
19:24 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: cool.
19:24 NekoGloop thexyz: I know nobody cares about me, and i accept this.
19:24 thexyz k, great
19:24 Infinity_69 -.-
19:25 thexyz PilzAdam: why -0.3?
19:25 thexyz shouldn't it be -0.5?
19:25 PilzAdam no, this causes them to get stucked in the neighbour nodes
19:26 thexyz how so?
19:26 PilzAdam this is the same code that i used in the attached_node code
19:26 thexyz with math.random()-0.3 you'll get [-0.3;0.7]
19:27 thexyz and you probably want something like [-0.3; 0.3]
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19:27 PilzAdam seems I did something really strange there
19:27 thexyz also, codestyle >local left=hitter:get_inventory
19:27 thexyz " = "
19:28 PilzAdam this is because of the line length
19:28 thexyz umm?
19:28 thexyz this line https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/blob/20b1620c3c1f5e8d9cb425fb5c5d9cd39c95a97a/builtin/item_entity.lua#L89 is longer
19:28 moltenbot thexyz's link: minetest/builtin/item_entity.lua at 20b1620c3c1f5e8d9cb425fb5c5d9cd39c95a97a ? PilzAdam/minetest ? GitHub
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19:29 thexyz and line length is less important
19:31 NekoGloop meow
19:33 NekoGloop we should have a forum games section [/random]
19:34 Zetetic On IRC?
19:34 Zetetic Sounds confusing
19:34 NekoGloop no on the minetest forums :P
19:34 thexyz >Offtopic
19:34 Zetetic That makes more sense
19:34 PilzAdam thexyz, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/5ea358a2348695213595412e123d032a1f465829
19:34 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Fix code style and spread of items ?  5ea358a ? PilzAdam/minetest ? GitHub
19:34 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/profile.php?id=398 I keep getting confused.
19:34 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Gambit's profile - Minetest Forums
19:36 thexyz PilzAdam: i still don't get it
19:36 Minetest-tan GIT: doserj (Jürgen Doser) commited to celeron55/minetest: fix integer overflow (fixes #414) 183c81b5ec 2013-01-12T11:32:09-08:00 http://git.io/rMEhww
19:36 MinetestBot GIT: doserj (Jürgen Doser) commited to celeron55/minetest: fix integer overflow (fixes #414) 183c81b5ec 2013-01-12T11:32:09-08:00 http://git.io/rMEhww
19:36 thexyz why do you use math.random(60)/100 instead of math.random()/2
19:36 MinetestBot was kicked by thexyz: MinetestBot
19:36 NekoGloop Why the hell do we need two of the same bot.
19:36 PilzAdam because it should range from -0.3 to 0.3
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19:39 NekoGloop Gambit is going to need a forum name :P
19:39 thexyz well, I'd prefer (math.random() - 0.5) * 3 / 5
19:39 NekoGloop ack!
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19:39 NekoGloop forums went down!
19:39 thexyz aw
19:40 sfan5 !q
19:40 MinetestBot Change in all things is sweet. -Aristotle
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19:41 NekoGloop >new minecraft version uses individual images for each texture
19:41 PilzAdam thexyz, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/6dacf6bc60a82f221cc8edc02944643b535ca9a9
19:41 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Fix code style and spread of items ?  6dacf6b ? PilzAdam/minetest ? GitHub
19:41 Infinity_69 hey how do i put sounds to stuff?
19:41 NekoGloop >we've had that for forever
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19:41 Infinity_69 in the code i mean
19:41 Infinity_69 wait
19:41 thexyz apparently celeron55 does not want me to host minetest.net for some reason
19:41 Infinity_69 is *modname*.*soundname*() it?
19:42 Infinity_69 e.g.
19:42 Infinity_69 raxfood.toast()
19:42 PilzAdam Infinity_69, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
19:42 NekoGloop Infinity_69: no
19:42 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: minetest/doc/lua_api.txt at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
19:42 Infinity_69 I JUST LOOKED AT THE API PAGE
19:42 thexyz PilzAdam: ok, fine
19:42 Infinity_69 NOW THIS?!
19:42 Infinity_69 atleast gimme the L#
19:43 jojoa1997 can anyone help me with a server
19:43 sfan5 MinetestBot, reload quotes
19:43 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'quotes' from 'modules_/quotes.py'> (version: 2013-01-12 19:42:39)
19:43 NekoGloop ctrl+F
19:43 PilzAdam Infinity_69, Ctrl + F "Sound"
19:43 thexyz PilzAdam: now you should discuss that with darkrose
19:43 jojoa1997 i am stuck in a hole ingame
19:43 Infinity_69 what?!
19:43 jojoa1997 and cant get out
19:43 RealBadAngel another view. im quite satisfied with how the palm trees look like now :) http://realbadangel.pl/palm_trees.png
19:43 TheZenKitteh jojoa1997 fly or dig out. only ways im aware of
19:43 Infinity_69 +1
19:43 Infinity_69 RealBadAnger
19:44 Infinity_69 help me please?
19:44 NekoGloop >RealBadAnger
19:44 sfan5 thexyz: you could ask him if you could host a backup database for the forum(read-only)
19:44 TheZenKitteh wow palm trees
19:44 NekoGloop This is english, not japanese
19:44 NekoGloop r's and l's are not interchangable.
19:44 jojoa1997 i meant someone come on the server and give me some dirt so i can get out. there is no fly and i have no materials
19:44 Infinity_69 screw it, found the line :D
19:45 TheZenKitteh what server you on jojoa1997
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19:45 jojoa1997 adress:94.23.33.108 port:30001
19:45 TheZenKitteh only one I have interact on is vanessaes
19:45 jojoa1997 but this gives interact by default
19:45 Infinity_69 nope, still need help... :/
19:46 sfan5[iPod] !up 94.23.33.108:30001
19:46 Minetest-tan sfan5[iPod]: 94.23.33.108:30001 is up (0.113ms)
19:46 MinetestBot sfan5[iPod]: 94.23.33.108:30001 is up (0.123ms)
19:46 moltenbot Minetest server 94.23.33.108:30001:30001 DOWN
19:46 Infinity_69 how do i make a sound play near a player if a player eats an item?
19:47 PilzAdam thexyz, should I fix the item spread in falling code? (https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/builtin/falling.lua#L99)
19:47 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: minetest/builtin/falling.lua at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
19:48 PilzAdam to math.random()/2+0.25
19:48 thexyz -
19:48 PilzAdam yea, -
19:48 thexyz as you wish
19:48 thexyz I'd prefer math.random()/2-0.25
19:49 PilzAdam thats what I meant
19:49 Infinity_69 srsly, now i understand why so many people quit the community...
19:49 Infinity_69 because most of youare assholes!
19:49 thexyz Infinity_69: sure
19:50 thexyz we are!
19:50 Infinity_69 PROVE ME WRONG
19:50 thexyz or, well, I am
19:50 thexyz Infinity_69: SHUT THE FUCK UP
19:50 NekoGloop thexyz, Calinou, etc. are assholes.
19:50 Infinity_69 PilzAdam is, well, the biggest asshole...
19:50 thexyz oh, fuck, I'm even not the biggest one
19:50 sfan5[iPod] exactly right, what about me?
19:50 Infinity_69 sfan5, youre ok...
19:51 Infinity_69 but PilzAdam sucks AND blows at the same time!
19:51 PilzAdam Infinity_69, you cant expect me answer you every question, you have to do something yourself
19:51 Infinity_69 how old are you?!
19:51 Infinity_69 i learn when somebody teaches me!
19:51 NekoGloop old enough to know you're younger
19:51 PilzAdam thexyz, like this: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/4fc03c9680eba0579be0427449c1d8d015ea4609
19:51 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Fix spread of items in falling code ?  4fc03c9 ? PilzAdam/minetest ? GitHub
19:51 Infinity_69 i cant learn by myself!
19:52 NekoGloop !q
19:52 MinetestBot Run away Simba... Yes, run away and never return. -Scar(Lion King)
19:52 NekoGloop !q
19:52 MinetestBot Man is a clever animal who behaves like an imbecile. -Albert Schweitzer
19:52 PilzAdam Infinity_69, there are tuorials at the web, you can read them and learn by yourself
19:52 NekoGloop that one.
19:52 Infinity_69 NOT MINETEST'S API YOU ASSHOLE!
19:52 Infinity_69 ok, ban me!
19:52 Infinity_69 what do i care
19:52 thexyz PilzAdam: probably, but as for me math.random() / 2 - 0.25 is better
19:52 PilzAdam there are 2: lua-apit.xt and the dev wiki
19:52 NekoGloop you thought *I* was an attention whore? :P
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19:53 Infinity_69 was kicked by sfan5[iPod]: ok.
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19:53 thexyz that is not ban
19:53 thexyz let me show you
19:53 sfan5[iPod] Minetest-tan: tell Nikondork hi
19:53 Infinity_69 ok, sfan, youre not ok anymore
19:53 Infinity_69 was kicked by thexyz: Infinity_69
19:53 thexyz that's how it works
19:53 sfan5[iPod] thexyz: that was a warning kick
19:53 thexyz hm?
19:54 sfan5[iPod] Minetest-tan tell thexyz test
19:54 sfan5[iPod] wtf?
19:54 thexyz sfan5[iPod]: i disabled this module
19:54 PilzAdam thexyz, math.random()/2 - 0.25 ?
19:54 sfan5[iPod] why?
19:54 thexyz (both)
19:54 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Minetest-tan's head
19:54 MinetestBot meow
19:54 thexyz sfan5[iPod]: because of timeouts
19:54 sfan5[iPod] oh,ok
19:54 NekoGloop :D
19:54 sfan5[iPod] lol
19:55 thexyz PilzAdam: " / "
19:55 thexyz that's not important, feel free to ignore
19:55 PilzAdam it looks weird in this case
19:55 NekoGloop I put a kitten on Minetest-tan's head and MinetestBot answered
19:55 NekoGloop awesome.
19:55 * sfan5[iPod] puts a kitten on's head
19:56 * sfan5[iPod] puts a kitten on 's head
19:56 MinetestBot meow
19:56 sfan5[iPod] :D
19:56 NekoGloop lol
19:56 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head
19:56 MinetestBot meow
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19:56 sfan5[iPod] !tw https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/290134808410079232
19:56 moltenbot sfan5[iPod]'s link: Twitter / BarackObama: Why would we spend taxpayer ...
19:56 Minetest-tan Why would we spend taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a 1-man starship? http://OFA.BO/yfxWt3 (@BarackObama)
19:56 MinetestBot Why would we spend taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a 1-man starship? http://OFA.BO/yfxWt3 (@BarackObama)
19:56 moltenbot MinetestBot's link: This Isn't the Petition Response You're Looking For | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government
19:56 sfan5[iPod] *facepalm*
19:57 NekoGloop MinetestBot: we dont care.
19:57 NekoGloop note: do not use !tw
19:57 sfan5[iPod] note: ....
19:57 sfan5[iPod] MinetestBot, quit
19:58 sfan5[iPod] -.-
19:58 Minetest-tan GIT: PilzAdam commited to celeron55/minetest: Fix spread of items in falling code 443bbe6a78 2013-01-12T11:55:45-08:00 http://git.io/ctAvCg
19:58 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to celeron55/minetest: Fix spread of items in falling code 443bbe6a78 2013-01-12T11:55:45-08:00 http://git.io/ctAvCg
19:58 moltenbot MinetestBot's link: Fix spread of items in falling code ?  443bbe6 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
19:58 celeron55 what the fucking fuck
19:58 thexyz WELCOME TO #minetest
19:58 sfan5[iPod] sorry
19:58 thexyz hm
19:59 Minetest-tan was kicked by celeron55: Minetest-tan
19:59 MinetestBot was kicked by celeron55: MinetestBot
19:59 moltenbot was kicked by celeron55: moltenbot
19:59 celeron55 enough of these
19:59 NekoGloop Having fun?
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19:59 thexyz celeron55: you'd better fix minetest.net
19:59 PilzAdam It is a strange feelin when you commit and celeron55 says "wtf" :-)
19:59 OldCoder Hi
20:00 sfan5 PilzAdam: ...and kicks all bots out of the channel
20:00 NekoGloop bot-slaughter
20:00 OldCoder Bots in spots are fun bit Bots are nots hots I see
20:00 OldCoder s/bit/but/
20:01 celeron55 now we will have a vote of what single bot can stay on the channel
20:01 NekoGloop janebot
20:01 * NekoGloop runs
20:01 OldCoder Wait
20:01 sfan5 NekoGloop: no
20:01 OldCoder List the options
20:01 sfan5 options?
20:01 OldCoder Which bots
20:01 OldCoder How they differ t y
20:02 NekoGloop Minetest-tan and moltenbot
20:02 sfan5 celeron55: MinetestBot was just here for testing..
20:02 OldCoder Just two? Go on
20:02 celeron55 sfan5: this is not a place to test bots on
20:02 NekoGloop MinetestBot was Minetest-tan with a different nick with the only purpose being to spam the channel
20:02 jojoa1997 anyone wanna join  a pvp survival server
20:02 OldCoder jojoa1997, Hi
20:02 sfan5 NekoGloop: thats wrong
20:02 jojoa1997 hi
20:02 PilzAdam I like Minetest-Tan because of the git messages
20:02 sfan5 celeron55: i wanted to test one command and just left the bot on
20:03 sfan5 i like Minetest-tan because !up reports the ping time
20:03 NekoGloop let's just give minetest-tan the url-grepping ability then throw molten away.
20:03 thexyz k, fine, instead of fixing minetest.net let's bitch about bots
20:04 NekoGloop thexyz: yes, lets.
20:04 OldCoder So merge the bots?
20:04 NekoGloop merge the bots and everyone's happy.
20:04 OldCoder Will author/s be willing to do that? Sounds sensible
20:04 NekoGloop except iqual but he can shove it.
20:04 PilzAdam Id like a new name for Minetest-tan though
20:04 thexyz PilzAdam: why?
20:05 PilzAdam because the awesomeness of Minetest-tan is not enough?
20:05 OldCoder It's kind of long
20:05 NekoGloop apparently he can't settle for a japanese honorific on the name
20:05 OldCoder Testtan?
20:05 PilzAdam Minebot or something simmilar
20:05 thexyz minebot is too boring
20:05 sfan5 yep
20:06 OldCoder bestbot?
20:06 PilzAdam mt-bot?
20:06 OldCoder No dashes
20:06 thexyz =(
20:06 thexyz why?
20:06 PilzAdam WTFPLbot
20:06 OldCoder Dashes are confusing
20:06 NekoGloop MTbot
20:06 thexyz in what way?
20:06 OldCoder Survey in forum!
20:06 OldCoder Settle name that way
20:06 NekoGloop ... when we have forums!
20:06 OldCoder Well, yes
20:06 thexyz the only problem is that I host Minetest-tan
20:07 * celeron55 laughs
20:07 * TheZenKitteh sneaks in
20:07 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on TheZenKitteh's head
20:08 * TheZenKitteh pets kitten then puts it on NekoGloops head
20:08 celeron55 i guess the VPS starts to be totally borked, while it was just half-borked until now
20:08 * jojoa1997 hears both saying "ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"
20:08 * john_minetest starts a kitten fight.
20:08 Jordach celeron55, let thexyz host the damn thing
20:08 Jordach or even OldCoder
20:08 OldCoder celeron55, Possibly reinstall?
20:08 OldCoder Can't ATM maybe later
20:09 OldCoder Yes I could...
20:09 OldCoder But forums will require time
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20:09 OldCoder thexyz, how 'bout you?
20:09 OldCoder celeron55, are you using Debian?
20:09 TheZenKitteh .. no forums... no no I need my forums o_O... *shakes*
20:09 TheZenKitteh j/k lol
20:09 celeron55 the suspected problem is in the virtualization software or the physical hardware of the thing
20:09 thexyz OldCoder: apparently, he doesn't want me to host forums
20:09 celeron55 the server OS itself is fine
20:10 OldCoder celeron55, wish to switch providers? I will PM
20:10 celeron55 i'll see if emblica.org will do something to it now that it breaks all the time
20:10 OldCoder celeron55, speak to that provider and he wishes to cut you a deal
20:10 OldCoder He is looking for MT business models already
20:11 jojoa1997 why is minetest.net down
20:11 OldCoder Scroll up jojoa1997
20:11 Jordach because it is
20:11 OldCoder He sort of just said
20:11 TheZenKitteh the bots got angry and ate the site
20:11 TheZenKitteh lol
20:11 sfan5[iPod] :D
20:12 OldCoder Angry Bots... Successor to a well known app?
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20:17 * TheZenKitteh looks around and then hears a cricket chirp
20:18 PilzAdam its not a cricket, its /me eating
20:19 Oblivion1500 damn, i was about to download minetest for linux or whatever guess i have to wait
20:20 TheZenKitteh could always use the github if you can compile
20:20 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
20:20 TheZenKitteh PilzAdam beat me to it
20:20 TheZenKitteh lol
20:20 celeron55 the files are hosted on github currently, and google caches minetest.net: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QCav8BOhTfkJ:minetest.net/download.php+&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=fi&amp;client=firefox-a
20:21 TheZenKitteh one thing I don't miss about windows is the inability to "fairly easily" compile latest code for fun/testing/lulz/chans
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20:21 PilzAdam compiling Minetest is easier than setting up the ppa
20:21 TheZenKitteh indeed
20:22 TheZenKitteh compiling minetest is easy
20:22 TheZenKitteh lol
20:22 sfan5[iPod] yeah
20:22 Oblivion1500 ok well thanks guys
20:22 TheZenKitteh just takes some time depending on resources of computer
20:22 PilzAdam -j16 on intel core i7 is fairly fast
20:23 sfan5[iPod] it takes around 45 secs with -j5 on my sys
20:23 TheZenKitteh Oblivion1500 you on linux right now?
20:23 Oblivion1500 yep!! no windows and using mint 14
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20:25 OldCoder Kacey, hello
20:25 Kacey hi OC
20:25 OldCoder Kacey, Behaving yourself today?
20:26 PilzAdam Oblivion1500, download the source from GitHub and read the README for information how to compile
20:26 Kacey did you hear about the #minecraft affairs?
20:26 TheZenKitteh minecraft affairs?
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20:27 OldCoder mauvebic, Hi
20:27 OldCoder Kacey, enough to know one kid's a** is gra** if he pushes it
20:27 mauvebic hey
20:27 OldCoder mauvebic, shall we update
20:27 OldCoder your world sometime?
20:27 mauvebic forums down again... we should start a betting pool lol
20:27 OldCoder Of your world I wish to rhyme
20:28 mauvebic there hasn't been much update to the world ive been working more on optimizing my older mods this week :-)
20:28 mauvebic id show you the pictures of the new plant textures i came up with but the forums are down and idont have the link :/
20:29 mauvebic but theyll be banana and mango plants :-)
20:29 mauvebic *there willll
20:30 mauvebic axed about 1/4 of the code from my core mod, FPS jumped ten points lol
20:32 kaeza marktraceur, you here?
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20:33 Obiewan1111 Website down? :/
20:34 kaeza yup
20:35 Obiewan1111 Anyone know why?
20:36 TheZenKitteh someone decided to press the red button
20:36 TheZenKitteh despite being told not to
20:36 TheZenKitteh lol j/k don't know why exactly but celeron55 knows
20:36 mauvebic and celeron55 couldn't get through to notch on the red phone
20:36 kaeza o hai TheLastProject
20:36 kaeza ?
20:36 kaeza TheZenKitteh,
20:36 kaeza lol
20:36 kaeza fck you tab completion
20:37 mauvebic i wish bars had tab completion
20:37 kaeza ...lol?
20:38 NakedFury http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1625503-146-aurora-rubealis-v100-auroras-in-minecraft/
20:38 NakedFury nice ambient mod
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20:38 mauvebic of course, randomly loosing/crashing tabs is just as good (early chrome lol)
20:38 TheZenKitteh I wish life had cheat codes :P
20:38 TheLastProject Hi kaeza :P
20:38 mauvebic i have an ambient mod for space i can't publish lool
20:38 NakedFury afk
20:38 kaeza ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → A B
20:38 TheLastProject (Yep, the autocomplete stuff ALWAYS happens. Just don't autocomplete when you typed "the" :P)
20:39 kaeza sorry TheLastProject ^_^
20:39 ashurii Hi room :) I was wondering... can I use one of Minetest's sound effects? The smashing glass sound? If I am allowed, how do I reference it properly under the license?
20:39 mauvebic i disabled autocomplete when it replaced "function" with another word that led to much confusion lol
20:39 TheZenKitteh lol aurora.. that actually would be pretty neat if done right
20:39 Obiewan1111 When the forum is back online, check out the server called "DiamondMining". :D
20:40 kaeza \o/
20:40 OldCoder ashurii, if it is WTFPL can do WTF you wish
20:40 OldCoder which sound?
20:41 TheZenKitteh I think they mean the default glass sound
20:41 ashurii OldCoder: One of the breaking glass sounds, either one.. when you remove the blocks.. yeah :)
20:41 jojoa1997 where is the leaf decay code in default
20:41 kaeza aren't those released as CC?
20:42 PilzAdam ashurii, see README.txt in the default mod
20:42 ashurii Ah.. kewl, I wonder if people will look down on me for using the WTF :P hopefully!
20:42 ashurii okay thanks :))
20:42 kaeza jojoa1997, leafdecay.lua
20:42 jojoa1997 XD
20:42 PilzAdam ashurii, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/README.txt#L92
20:43 ashurii PilzAdam: Thanks :)) will read.
20:44 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFgB_KS-wg
20:44 mauvebic haha sweet fixed :-) https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/414
20:45 OldCoder Hi
20:45 OldCoder ashurii, It should be fine
20:45 marktraceur kaeza: Yup
20:45 mauvebic dont know who doserj is but thanks
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20:45 Ririshi Heya
20:46 ashurii OldCoder: Okay. That's good :)
20:46 kaeza marktraceur, the remote admin interface is in a working state, an I test here?
20:46 ashurii Need to sign up.. >.< more usernames :/
20:46 Ririshi Can someone explain me how to install a texture pack? I put the textures in the textures\all folder, but they don't show up when playing..
20:46 marktraceur kaeza: Noooo. Test somewhere else, like #minetest-admin-interface
20:47 kaeza can*
20:47 kaeza marktraceur, ok → ##mt-irc-mod
20:48 kaeza now added ban/unban
20:48 OldCoder
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20:49 TheZenKitteh Ririshi, what's the folder structure?
20:49 TheZenKitteh textures/all/texturename.png ?
20:49 ashurii Is minetest.net down at the moment or is my ISP being silly?
20:49 thexyz it is down
20:49 Ririshi Thanks for responding :D Yes, it's textures/all/texturename.png indeed
20:50 TheZenKitteh then Ririshi are the textures named the same as textures they are meant to replace?
20:50 jojoa1997 what is the difference between (leafdecay=3) and (leafdecay=1)
20:50 Ririshi TheZenKitteh: I guess.. I got a WIP texturepack from the texturepack page.
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20:51 Ririshi Do I need anything else but the textures?
20:51 TheZenKitteh have to make sure the textures are properly named or they won't show
20:51 Ririshi Never modded minetest in any way until now xd
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20:51 TheZenKitteh also if pack is missing some textures then of course those won't be modded
20:53 Ririshi book bookshelf brick chest_front chest_side chest_top clay clay_brick cobble crack funace_front furnace_side glass grass grass_footsteps grass_side gravel item_fence lump_of_clay lump_of_coal lump_of_iron mineral_coal mineral_iron mossycobble mud sand sign sign_back sign_wall stone torch torch_on_ceiling torch_on_floor tree tree_top water wood is what i have now
20:53 jojoa1997 can someone give me an abm that would work symiliar to leafdecay. i want to make it where if a node is not surrpounded on 4 sides then it will remove itself
20:53 Ririshi sorry for big msg xd
20:53 ashurii thexyz: Thanks :)
20:54 Ririshi if node.sideblock = true then node.remove xD
20:54 jojoa1997 thanks
20:54 Ririshi NO NO IM KIDDIN
20:54 jojoa1997 ._.
20:54 Ririshi something like that should work.. but im bad at lua
20:54 Ririshi ^-^
20:55 TheZenKitteh ririshi you need to add default_ before those
20:55 TheZenKitteh like default_sand.png
20:55 TheZenKitteh default_sign_wall.png
20:55 TheZenKitteh etc
20:55 Ririshi jojoa1997: I've modded some new blocks but those are on my old pc.. and i haven't worked with newer versions of minetest than 0.3.x i guess.. i'll try to get some modding into my brains again ;p
20:56 Ririshi TheZenKitteh: ain't there a cmd command to put a prefix before a file name?
20:56 ashurii So, what are the specifics for referencing this sound file :/ ? can I just say "cmusounddesign - Creative Commons -  http://www.freesound.org/people/cmusounddesign/sounds/71947/" ?
20:56 jojoa1997 Ririshi did that code work with the old version
20:57 TheZenKitteh I can't remember when naming of textures changed but it was somewhere in 0.4
20:57 TheZenKitteh so if you use 0.3 no renaming needed I suspect
20:57 TheZenKitteh but for 0.4 and beyond need to be default_ in front of texture names that are for the default mod
20:57 Ririshi jojoa1997: that code is more VB or something.. I didn't try it..
20:57 TheZenKitteh bucket_ before the name of textures to replace say the bucket mods
20:57 jojoa1997 well can anyone else help
20:57 Ririshi TheZenKitteh: okay.. I'll have to put everything in front of it then >.<
20:58 TheZenKitteh as for a shortcut unsure. linux or windows?
20:58 ashurii I ask because the CC says to attribute according to author's wishes.. but I can't find any..
20:58 OldCoder ashurii, If there are no wishes
20:58 OldCoder For fishes or dishes
20:59 OldCoder The wishes are BY-SA as a rule... sometimes NC too
20:59 OldCoder Is this CC or WTF?
20:59 ashurii ahh.. im a little confused, sorry.. It is CC
20:59 ashurii from freesound.org.
21:00 mauvebic NC is better if youre not 100% sure of the origins of all your media (safety)
21:00 TheZenKitteh ririshi you on windows or linux?
21:00 ashurii What is NC? Is there an idiot's guide explaining all these acronyms and the terminology in one place?
21:01 OldCoder ashurii, http://creativecommons.org/
21:01 mauvebic is non commercial
21:01 OldCoder And NC ^
21:01 OldCoder BY means attribution
21:01 Ririshi TheZenKitteh: windows atm.
21:01 OldCoder ND means no derivatives
21:01 OldCoder etc.
21:01 OldCoder It is fine... take a look these are good licenses
21:01 ashurii ah, excellent.. Thanks :)
21:01 TheZenKitteh ririshi xp by any chance?
21:02 ashurii Does it make sense for me to say NC and CC ?
21:02 kaeza forums still down :/
21:02 mauvebic if you use textures or sounds with no clear licensing, your alot safer using a noncommercial license than taking the chance someone will make a product out of it and incur damages for you and him/her
21:02 ashurii Oh I see.
21:02 mauvebic if you made them all yourself then you got nothing at all to worry about and any license will do
21:03 TheZenKitteh ririshi since im not on windows all I can do is give a link to help you find a batch renamer.. otherwise you have to manually do it http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-rename-utility.htm#Quick_Selection_Guide
21:03 TheZenKitteh im sure there's also others
21:04 ashurii Yeah sure.. I had a bottle up here.. getting ready to smash but decided better of it :P ..so I will go NC with the persons username and the URL.
21:04 Ririshi I'll make myself a batch script :D
21:04 Ririshi TheZenKitteh: I've got Ubuntu, Win7 and WinXP on here :D
21:05 jojoa1997 I NEED MINETEST FORUM please fix it
21:05 TheZenKitteh jojoa1997 you can use google cache if you have the post url you need
21:05 TheZenKitteh go to google and search for cache:http://urlofposthere
21:05 TheZenKitteh otherwise have to wait
21:06 jojoa1997 iyeah but i mean for everyone to converse and it is jan. 3 not jan. 11
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21:11 NekoGloop um
21:11 NekoGloop it's jan. 12
21:12 TheZenKitteh no its december 22 2025
21:12 TheZenKitteh o wait that was before I went back in time
21:12 TheZenKitteh nvm
21:12 TheZenKitteh lol
21:12 Ririshi umadbro? it's 12 jan 1997
21:12 Ririshi jan 12 ok ko
21:12 Ririshi ok*
21:12 Ririshi i'm not english..
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21:16 Infinity_69 hi
21:16 Infinity_69 so, TheXYZ, i see you unbanned me, like you supposed to...
21:16 Infinity_69 +1
21:16 celeron55 re. http://www.freesound.org/people/cmusounddesign/sounds/71947/
21:17 Infinity_69 celeron55
21:17 celeron55 it says "This work is licensed under the Attribution License."
21:17 Infinity_69 can you please help me?
21:17 celeron55 the attribution license means that one is free to do anything with the thing being licensed, as long as attribution is given
21:17 celeron55 no share-alike, no non-commercial
21:18 Infinity_69 kaeza
21:18 Infinity_69 oh...
21:18 Infinity_69 she quit...
21:19 Infinity_69 Celeron55
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21:21 Infinity_69_ ok im back:)
21:21 Infinity_69_ so can somebody help me?
21:22 jojoa1997 what you need help with
21:22 Ririshi with what?
21:22 Infinity_69_ http://pastebin.com/sNrLYRXS
21:22 Infinity_69_ look at it
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21:22 Infinity_69_ i dont understand what/where the error is
21:23 jojoa1997 add a comma on line 52 like this
21:24 jojoa1997 from this
21:24 ashurii Thanks everyone for your help, much appreciated :)
21:24 jojoa1997 {'bucket:bucket_water', 'raxplants:flour'}
21:24 jojoa1997 to this
21:24 jojoa1997 {'bucket:bucket_water', 'raxplants:flour'},
21:24 Infinity_69_ oh
21:24 Ririshi why would you jojoa?
21:24 Infinity_69_ nothing :/
21:25 john_minetest Infinity_69: (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)... I was explaining something to him since 2 minutes...
21:25 Ririshi shouldn't recipe be in ()?
21:25 jojoa1997 Ririshi why would i do what?
21:25 Ririshi putting a comma after that..
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21:26 jojoa1997 no
21:26 jojoa1997 because that is how i did my working recipe
21:26 jojoa1997 anyone wanna try my mod https://github.com/jojoa1997/spleef_arena
21:28 Ririshi Infinity_69 putting a comma after it did help?
21:29 Infinity_69 nope
21:29 Infinity_69 all i understood was, that there was a '{' unclosed :/
21:29 jojoa1997 one sec
21:29 Infinity_69 but it wasnt
21:29 Ririshi yeah..
21:31 jojoa1997 look at lines 1542-1587 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
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21:31 Infinity_69 why didnt you link the lines you idiot?
21:31 ashurii celeron55: Just caught your message regarding attribution license.. is this along the same lines as ( CC BY-?? 3.0 ) .. or would I need to do something else :/ ?
21:32 jojoa1997 Infinity_69 i dont know how to
21:32 jojoa1997 join adress:94.23.33.108 port:30001
21:32 jojoa1997 ashurii what is you problem
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21:33 Infinity_67 im back -.-
21:33 marktraceur Infinity_67: Chill
21:33 ashurii jojoa1997: I am not sure how to reference the file I am going to use.. I have it under CC BY_NC 3.0 .. which is wrong I think as the file is has an attribution license perhaps..
21:34 Infinity_67 i got the "He's Dead, Jim" message...
21:34 jojoa1997 is it a sound file
21:34 ashurii jojoa1997: I just need to add a comment giving the right acknowledgment :/
21:34 ashurii Yhea
21:34 Infinity_67 jojoa
21:34 Infinity_67 you found anything helpful?
21:34 ashurii Yes, it is :)
21:34 Infinity_67 marktraceur
21:34 Infinity_67 http://pastebin.com/sNrLYRXS
21:35 Infinity_67 please take a look
21:35 Infinity_67 and please help me
21:35 jojoa1997 ashurii i cant help you there unless you rerecord the sound and add some litle noise at the end maybe
21:35 jojoa1997 Infinity_69 please paste the code without the error
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21:36 Infinity_67 there is a line...
21:36 ashurii ah,.. lol, shall I just play it through the speakers and record it again >.<
21:36 Infinity_67 === Code ===
21:36 jojoa1997 kaeza join adress:94.23.33.108 port:30001
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21:36 Infinity_67 between those lines is the WHOLE code
21:36 marktraceur Infinity_67: Line 50, forgot a comma
21:36 jojoa1997 i knew is was a comma
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21:38 Infinity_RAGE hi
21:38 Ririshi stupid commas xD
21:38 Ririshi Hello
21:38 Ririshi xd
21:38 Infinity_69 what?!
21:38 Infinity_69 i keep getting an invite to he's death >:o
21:39 jojoa1997 someone join adress:94.23.33.108 port:30001
21:39 Infinity_69 0.4.4 / 0.4.3?
21:39 jojoa1997 0.4.4
21:40 Infinity_69 nope, not going there :/
21:40 jojoa1997 why
21:40 Infinity_69 go to a 0.4.3 server, then
21:40 Infinity_69 i use Doku Test that only runs on 0.4.3
21:40 Infinity_69 :/
21:40 Infinity_69 :D
21:40 jojoa1997 then someone else join
21:40 Infinity_69 jojoa, go get 0.4.3 and lets play :D
21:40 jojoa1997 i need to fight someone and defend my house
21:41 Infinity_69 lets make a village
21:41 ashurii I figured it out.. attribution license = CC BY 3.0 ... I hope :P .. new to all this.. either way I have to go... maybe I will just get in legal trouble at some point >.< thanks everyone.
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21:44 Kacey doku test is a texture pack right?
21:45 Kacey if so, it should work on any version
21:47 jojoa1997 Kacey come join the server
21:53 Ririshi Im going to work on a texture pack for minetest :D
21:53 jojoa1997 how far down do you have to go till you find mese
21:53 Ririshi is there a list with textures?
21:53 Ririshi at least -64 i think jojoa1997
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21:57 Kacey i dont have 0.4.3
21:58 Kacey but i do have massive  lag
22:01 kaeza jojoa1997, Y U NO use latest server???
22:02 jojoa1997 i have latest thexyz build. what do you mean by server
22:03 kaeza jojoa1997, aren't you the server owner?
22:03 jojoa1997 no
22:04 kaeza ok
22:04 Ririshi Is it possible to add a gui as a mod?
22:04 kaeza Ririshi, in a way, yes
22:04 jojoa1997 i think
22:04 Ririshi could someone help me building a mod to assign a letter to choose the block you're pointing at if it's in your inventory bar?
22:04 Ririshi "pick block" in minecraft
22:05 kaeza Ririshi, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L660
22:05 Kacey im making a sheep out of wool
22:05 Ririshi or i mean a key, not a letter
22:05 jojoa1997 like how you press 'I' for inventory
22:06 kaeza you mean keybindings?
22:06 Ririshi yeah
22:06 kaeza nope
22:06 Kacey haha his feet lokk awesome
22:06 kaeza not yet
22:06 Ririshi too bad..
22:06 Kacey look, even
22:07 Ririshi it would be awesome :D
22:07 Ririshi Is there a way to get the block you're holding?
22:07 kaeza yes
22:07 jojoa1997 it is possible if you figure out how inventory opens with 'I'
22:07 Ririshi sorry i mean looking at -.-
22:08 jojoa1997 what do you want to do in the mod
22:08 kaeza yes
22:08 Ririshi jojoa1997 isn't that hardcoded in C#? or C++ whatever it uses xD
22:08 jojoa1997 i dont know
22:08 NakedFury cant do that yet
22:08 jojoa1997 i mean what does inventory plus and unified inventory do
22:09 NakedFury we cant assign keys to actions yet. like if players presses R then do this
22:09 NakedFury unless you code c++ and can add it
22:09 Ririshi yeah..
22:09 Ririshi so you'd have to decompile it.. or smth
22:09 Ririshi or just take the source xD
22:10 Ririshi and add the function
22:10 Ririshi I don't code seriously..
22:10 Ririshi too bad i'm not a pro lol
22:11 jojoa1997 do hearts regenerate them selves
22:11 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v5Sk4QNCxM
22:11 NekoGloop jojoa1997: no
22:11 jojoa1997 they should cant find any apples and have 4 hearts
22:13 jojoa1997 where is the ore generation in default
22:13 jojoa1997 or where is it set
22:13 TheZenKitteh jojoa1997 that's why its important to snag every apple you see when you see them and before you need them. on the server I play I always have at least 50 apples. if it dips below that I hunt for more. also have bananas
22:14 jojoa1997 if i plant sapling then they grow right
22:14 TheZenKitteh then again I also have a banana plantation which helps
22:14 TheZenKitteh too bad the banana trees look almost like apple trees
22:15 TheZenKitteh oh and I can't remember who was doing palm trees but I suggest adding coconuts to them
22:15 TheZenKitteh lol
22:16 jojoa1997 realbadangel was and vanessae will add them to moretrees soon too
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22:17 NekoGloop TheZenKitteh: there are.
22:18 sema4 forums down again??
22:18 NekoGloop they never came back up from like 5 hours ago
22:19 NakedFury RealBadAngel created the tre system and he and vanessa are doing a MoreTrees mod. you can make trees with the mod and give them to vanessa too
22:19 sema4 huh.
22:21 Kacey soo much white wool...
22:23 Kacey would his feet look better black or brown?
22:23 TheZenKitteh I hope the forum doesn't lose all its posts and userdata. that would suck hard
22:24 jojoa1997 whos feet
22:24 Kacey my sheep i am making
22:24 meldrian the forum is down, isn'T it?
22:24 NakedFury yes
22:24 meldrian ah ok. thx
22:24 jojoa1997 Naked is furious of that
22:25 Kacey !ping minetest.net/forum
22:25 NekoGloop lol
22:25 TheZenKitteh bots not here
22:25 Kacey haha no bots
22:25 TheZenKitteh celeron threw a fit and banned them
22:25 jojoa1997 i think that the bots were removed
22:25 TheZenKitteh lol
22:25 Kacey haha
22:25 TheZenKitteh basically saying there needs to be only one bot
22:25 Kacey Kaceybot!!!!
22:27 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caAGyHayvaY
22:28 TheZenKitteh (02:58:26 PM) celeron55: what the fucking fuck
22:28 TheZenKitteh (02:58:37 PM) mode (+o celeron55) by ChanServ
22:28 TheZenKitteh (02:58:37 PM) thexyz: WELCOME TO #minetest
22:28 TheZenKitteh (02:58:37 PM) sfan5[iPod]: sorry
22:28 TheZenKitteh (02:58:41 PM) mode (+b *!*Minetest-@minetest.ru) by celeron55
22:28 TheZenKitteh lol
22:29 NekoGloop Adding "what the fucking fuck" to quotes list
22:29 jojoa1997 since forum is down how many nodes the the protector mod protect
22:29 NekoGloop jojoa1997: 8 in all directions IIRC
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22:29 jojoa1997 what is IIRC
22:29 NekoGloop "If I Recall Correctly"
22:30 * jojoa1997 lightbulb!
22:30 NekoGloop You need a new one!
22:30 * jojoa1997 screw screw screw CLICK
22:30 NekoGloop crack
22:31 NakedFury IIRNc: If I remember incorrectly
22:31 * jojoa1997 puts a lava_source on NekoGloop's head
22:31 NakedFury is it recall? I always thought remember
22:32 meldrian damn, i were about to check some parts of the mod-section ... :(
22:33 NekoGloop NakedFury: it's either/or
22:34 NakedFury http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/listing.php?id=mod
22:34 NakedFury meldrian check tha
22:34 NakedFury t
22:34 jojoa1997 come join minetest.org 30010 and there will be a spleef arena soon
22:34 jojoa1997 winner will get 6 diamonds
22:35 NekoGloop >diamonds
22:35 NekoGloop what is this minecraft
22:35 jojoa1997 no because if you do this
22:35 jojoa1997 d=diamond s=steel
22:35 jojoa1997 x=nothing
22:35 jojoa1997 xsx
22:35 jojoa1997 xdx
22:35 jojoa1997 xsx
22:36 NekoGloop What is this, minecraft?
22:36 NekoGloop we aint got no diamonds ;-)
22:36 Kacey it should be a tower of pimps
22:36 jojoa1997 fine then you get something e;se
22:38 jojoa1997 will you join
22:38 NekoGloop nope ;-)
22:38 jojoa1997 why
22:39 jojoa1997 You will get 5 mese blocks if you win
22:39 NekoGloop dont want to ;-)
22:39 * jojoa1997 makes NekoGloop join by using mind control
22:40 NakedFury you get limited edition cow dung in a cup
22:40 NekoGloop It failed!
22:40 Kacey haha my sheep has an anus
22:40 jojoa1997 you will become admin
22:40 jojoa1997 just kidding
22:41 jojoa1997 that is also up to ocr and markv
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22:45 Kacey IT WORKS!!!!!!1!!!!2!!!one!!!
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22:46 jojoa1997 how do i use the last command when i press f10
22:51 Kacey it worked...
22:55 celeron55 TheZenKitteh: the data is perfectly intact; it's just that the server has forgotten how to execute code without completely jamming at random times
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23:03 Kacey DAMNIT!!!!!!
23:04 Kacey TURN OFF DAMNIT!!!!
23:05 NekoGloop NO
23:05 NekoGloop NEVERRRRRRR
23:06 Kacey thats it im through trying with the damn shit
23:10 OldCoder Kacey what is failing?
23:10 OldCoder Good luck don't give up until you see the whites of their eggs and bacon
23:10 * OldCoder is going to go eat now
23:10 OldCoder o/
23:11 Kacey my mesecons door
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23:12 Zeg9 Hi.
23:16 kaeza forums still down?
23:16 kaeza bummer
23:17 Kacey kaeza im making a giant sheep ^_^
23:17 kaeza cool
23:17 kaeza local server?
23:17 Kacey ya
23:17 Kacey singleplayer
23:18 Kacey now to work on the tail...
23:23 kaeza I think there's something wrong with right-click
23:24 kaeza when I hold the RMB pointing at air, and then release it, it acts as if I rightclicked when I point at a node again
23:25 kaeza anyone else experiencing this issue?
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23:26 jojoa1997 im back \o/ this place just got cool
23:27 Kacey he does not have much of a neck...
23:28 jojoa1997 kacey show me a pic of your sheep
23:28 Kacey when its done k?
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23:33 sema4 hey does minetest client have a command history
23:33 sema4 ?
23:34 jojoa1997 you mean ingame(f10)
23:34 Ririshi f10 you mean?
23:34 Ririshi or check the command prompt that opens..
23:36 sema4 yeah f10
23:36 jojoa1997 idk but it would be nice to press the up button and have the last command come up again
23:36 sema4 replace commands in worldedit can be very long :>
23:36 sema4 yes definitely
23:37 jojoa1997 i am usoing world edit now lol
23:37 sema4 i have saved 100s of man hours with that mod
23:37 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDF1NQ/screenshot_824… my sheep
23:37 jojoa1997 O.O
23:38 jojoa1997 show us the back
23:38 sema4 lol
23:38 Kacey not much, just a little tail
23:38 Kacey do you like it?
23:39 PilzAdam http://www.zimg.eu/i/3860861985 <- my flat mapgen
23:39 jojoa1997 yes but add some light gray blocks to break up the uniformity
23:39 PilzAdam nice to see the perlin noise of trees
23:39 Kacey later
23:39 Kacey PilzAdam, how do i create flat mapgen?
23:39 jojoa1997 so that is how perlin noise works
23:40 PilzAdam Kacey, I made a fork of MT and deleted the whole old mapgen and added some super flat one
23:41 Kacey ooh so if i forked minetest_game and messed with the mapgen.lua it wold work?
23:41 PilzAdam the forum is down so I cant point you to the topic with win build, but heres the source: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/tree/flat
23:41 PilzAdam no, you need to edit the core code
23:41 Kacey i use linux
23:41 PilzAdam then compile the source
23:42 PilzAdam have you compiled Minetest before?
23:42 Kacey last time i edited the core code, i was swimming through land
23:42 jojoa1997 sema4: at least with repeatedly retyping commands you will remember them
23:43 sema4 i suppose
23:44 PilzAdam Kacey, you gonna try my branch?
23:44 Kacey maybe
23:44 Ririshi I'm off
23:44 Ririshi cyahz!
23:44 jojoa1997 sema4: i still want a command history
23:45 NakedFury pressing up or down on chat to bring past or present chat by you would be 100% appreciated
23:45 kizeren https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofp90stM2Z8
23:45 NekoGloop cant you already do that
23:46 NekoGloop i coulda swore i just did that like yesterday
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23:48 sema4 i tried all combinations of up/down/pgup/pgdn with shift,alt,ctrl.. nothing seemed to work
23:49 NakedFury doesnt work
23:49 sema4 another Q:  is there an elevator mod?
23:49 sema4 i thought i read about one somewhere
23:49 sema4 want to not use 'watervators' unless i have to :>
23:50 FreeFull I recall being on a server and there being a building with an elevator, where it worked by punching signs
23:51 jojoa1997 make a 2*2*X pillar X=height
23:51 jojoa1997 then dig one layer like this
23:51 jojoa1997 c=block a=air
23:51 jojoa1997 CA
23:51 jojoa1997 AC
23:51 jojoa1997 CA
23:51 jojoa1997 AC
23:51 jojoa1997 CA
23:51 jojoa1997 AC
23:51 jojoa1997 CA
23:51 jojoa1997 then you walk up against it and hold
23:52 jojoa1997 shift+space
23:52 jojoa1997 this is a helphul glitch
23:53 sema4 oh i saw one of those on redcrab's server and couldn't figure out how to ascend :)
23:55 NakedFury can pistons move you now?
23:55 Kacey no
23:55 jojoa1997 ?
23:56 Kacey pistons cant move you
23:56 NakedFury then how do you do an elevator with them?
23:56 Kacey no idea
23:56 Kacey perhaps
23:56 Kacey hang on
23:57 jojoa1997 look up minecraft piston elevator
23:57 NakedFury already tried to do it
23:57 NakedFury would not move me
23:57 jojoa1997 you jump also
23:57 Kacey i watched a video on a cool one
23:57 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReyFfSDkKKc this on
23:58 Kacey one, even
23:58 Kacey anyone want to test to see if that works?
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