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tzenfore |
Hello! How are all of you today? |
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<jordan4ibanez> I found a potato under my pillow. It must be Leif Erikson day |
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ireallyhateirc |
I'd like to make buildings where the inner side is one texture and the outside is another. So for example the outer wall would be from roughcast and the inner wall would be white pait, bathroom tiles, etc. I can think of two solutions: 1. making nodes smaller (increasing player scale) and a wall would be actually a 2-nodes wide layer. 2. making combined nodes where a single node would have multiple tiles/textures for |
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ireallyhateirc |
each side |
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ireallyhateirc |
the 1st solution needs nodes to be quite small which would hurt performance OR making the walls ridiculously wide |
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cheapie |
There's one player on VE-C who makes the walls 3m thick - he uses the middle for a "frame" made out of, of all things, clay |
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ireallyhateirc |
the 2nd solution is limited by the number of nodes available in the game. Say I have 100 different wall types then to make mix nodes I'd need 100 x 100 = 10K nodes which is 1/3 of the limit |
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ireallyhateirc |
but I'd need corner nodes too so it'd be 10K * 2 = 20K which is 2/3 of the limit |
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cheapie |
I've also seen people build with one type of node and then cover it with 1/16th slabs of a different one. |
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ireallyhateirc |
making the walls 3m thick would ruin immersion and using 1/16 slabs would make it impossible to place any furniture next to the wall unless I'd do some ugly mesh offset hacks |
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cheapie |
The slabs would usually go on the outside of the building. |
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cheapie |
(and re: ruining immersion- yeah, tell me about it... :P) |
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ireallyhateirc |
I could probably do 100 types of walls and then get away with it by fitting everything else into the remaining 10K nodes |
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ireallyhateirc |
but IMO the total number of nodes should be increased |
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ireallyhateirc |
hmmm the issue is ~7 years old and marked as low priority: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6101 |
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ireallyhateirc |
it's surprisingly easy to run into that limit if you're not making just another Minecraft clone... |
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ireallyhateirc |
If I knew that I'd run so quickly into the limit I'd pick that issue as high priority for me instead of colored lights there: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15092 |
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ireallyhateirc |
any chances of bumping the max node number in this decade or should I learn Godot? lol |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i think thats on of the things thats on a theoretical 6.0, like world size expansion due to basically no way for backwards compat |
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ireallyhateirc |
what's the rough/realistic timeline for 6.0? I'd like to make my game playable in about 3 years |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> no one knows, hence theoretical |
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ireallyhateirc |
putting the fact that probably no one wants to work on this issue, the compatibility problem could be solved by mods explicitly requesting the extended number of nodes |
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ireallyhateirc |
that way mods would use the current world format and protocol by default and only those who ask for it would get the compatibility-breaking extended one |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> it probably would be a setting/compile time option (purely my own speculation) |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> also the whole entity models being 10x node ones is probably a in theory 6.0 thing |
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ireallyhateirc |
one thing that could be done now would be deleting the spam from this issue and unlocking it: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6101 |
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ireallyhateirc |
that way I could at least post my rationale for wanting more nodes |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> its been a year, so in theory safe to unlock that now. so i have done so |
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ireallyhateirc |
thanks |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> ive hidden ghosts comments as not really useful, whoever feel free to add/subtract from that number |
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ireallyhateirc |
added my comment there |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> ....yeah, that comment really isnt a good arguement for more nodes tbh, thats a good argument for node variations (think like hardware coloring, etc) |
