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cheapie |
Overkill? Probably. Fun? Yes :P https://cheapiesystems.com/media/2024-04-11%2023-21-38.webm |
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celeron55_ |
cheapie: nice sounds and acceleration, the inertia is very pronounced |
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shaft |
I know you can remap textures of block faces but can you remap textures by their filename too? |
| 10:32 |
shaft |
I forked a texture pack after all and if I wanted to support Mineclone2, I'd have to duplicate every single texture and name it to the Mineclone prefix which is pretty retarded and wasteful. |
| 10:34 |
shaft |
I could probably use symlinks but I don't know if that works with contentdb or is crossplatform. |
| 10:35 |
shaft |
And it would probably consume more memory |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> You can alias in the texture pack configuration. See the docs. Still painful |
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shaft |
texture_pack.conf? |
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shaft |
Which file? Which doc? I can't find it. |
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MTDiscord |
<lemente> overrides.txt file I believe |
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shaft |
But I'm talking about overriding by filename not by surface of a node. |
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shaft |
So other mods can inherit it. |
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shaft |
If they go looking for "mcl_wood" they need to find the texture even if I didn't override for exactly that node |
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shaft |
help please |
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MTDiscord |
<lemente> oh, I see I couldn't find anything sadly. I once turned a texturepack into a mod, if that's of any use to you. Though it does cause other issues (I can't remember which exactly). https://github.com/Lemente/rpg16_mod |
| 12:06 |
rubenwardy |
You could make a script that duplicates just when releasing a texture pack, and not in the source dir |
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rubenwardy |
There's no support for file name aliases in txps though |
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shaft |
Then add it in 5.9. It's essential. With support for filters please. I've noticed that shit when I wrote color filters for wool. They didn't get inherited by the wool stairs and slabs from the mod. Wasn't a big deal here cause it's just a couple of textures but it's ridiculous for whole games. Preferibly I'd alias the entire prefix and then exclude the couple of textures where I need to do extra work. |
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shaft |
Otherwise Minetest will never get proper texture packs |
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celeron55_ |
texture pack support has never been polished properly, it doesn't seem to get a lot of focus from contributors even though graphics in general have been on the roadmap |
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shaft |
I'm willing to do some work on this 128x128 I picked up. |
| 12:14 |
shaft |
But I need aliasing to work |
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shaft |
I'm unwilling to shit out garbage |
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celeron55_ |
yeah the work you'd have to do is program the support you need in C++ |
| 12:16 |
celeron55_ |
the good part is, everyone agrees texture packs lack features. a well implemented texture name aliasing feature would probably be merged in no time |
| 12:20 |
shaft |
I'm not familiar with the minetest codebase though, have never compiled a bigger project and my C++ is amateurish |
| 12:21 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> if there isnt an issue already, please make one |
| 12:29 |
celeron55_ |
it's this one https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12694 |
| 12:30 |
celeron55_ |
if you have the hands-on experience with texture packs to come up with the requirements, you could try writing a spec for how exactly it should work |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> ironic that i both triage and made that issue and didnt remember 🙃 |
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shaft |
I can't log in to github. Fucking piece of shit email provider doesn't accept the 2fa verification email. |
| 12:39 |
shaft |
I use gitgud. |
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celeron55_ |
well, you can always pastebin stuff on irc and ask someone to post a link to the irc logs on github |
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shaft |
Yes, I thought of that and just wrote a snippet. https://gitgud.io/-/snippets/2024 |
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shaft |
I know this is maybe a little overkill but it would solve all texturepack problems ever |
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celeron55_ |
(i added a link to today's logs in the issue) |
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shaft |
Thank you very much |
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shaft |
I'll also vote for jpeg xl support, since I saw the issue. Why is bmp even supported? I know it doesn't weigh much but it doesn't add anything either. Does anything even use it? I know there's some tga ecoder mod but BMP? |
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celeron55_ |
bmp was deprecated if i recall correctly. it'll be removed some day |
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celeron55_ |
i agree jpeg xl is good, but it's still too new for MT to promise forver support for it |
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shaft |
Check contentdb. If nothing uses it, you can remove it in the next release. No one will miss. |
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celeron55_ |
it'll happen when the time comes |
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shaft |
Maybe it's to early to add jpeg xl but it's never to early to remove bmp |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> given jpegli is a thing now, not sure how much adding support for jpegxl will bring |
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shaft |
Jpegli is just Google cope. They also made Jpeg_R for android actually creating a new fucking not fully comptabile jpeg format for Android because AVIF, Webp and Jpeg just can't deliver and Google slaves need to work around it somehow. |
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shaft |
Further Jpeg XL provides good lossless compression which jpeg doesn't do, so the comparision is unfitting. Most textures in Minetest are lossless. I wouldn't vote for it if it was another lossy only format. |
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celeron55_ |
yeah the point of it is that it does everything well and it isn't very complicated compared to what it can do |
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shaft |
Maybe the time is not ripe for jxl but it isn't superseeded by jpegli or AVIF. That's what I want to say. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paradust7 -> minetest/minetest: CI: Pin CMake to 3.28 because of regression in 3.29.1 00ef597 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/00ef597639f6c7417a9a43753b16f2a176932644 (2024-04-12T14:34:05Z) |
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Mantar |
tga was wrongly deprecated, then un-deprecated. it serves a purpose that png doesn't, and there are existing mods and servers that use it |
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shaft |
I dumbed down my texture aliasing proposal snippet https://gitgud.io/-/snippets/2024 |
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