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Teckla |
Hello Minetesters. I'd like to play Minetest on my Chromebook. It looks like it defaults to touchscreen use. I'd like to use the traditional mouse and keyboard controls. Is that possible? |
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ROllerozxa |
you're running the android version on the chromebook I assume? |
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Teckla |
I guess I'm not sure. I opened the Play Store, and there it was. |
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Teckla |
I'm comfortable with Linux and Crostini and could always play that version, but I figured I'd look into the Play Store version first. |
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ROllerozxa |
yeah the android version only has touchscreen controls, you can't enable the desktop control scheme. for desktop-like controls, you would need to run the linux version inside of the Chrome OS Linux container... it's been a long time since I tried it, can't remember if mouse capture works properly for programs in the Linux container |
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Teckla |
ROllerozxa: Sounds good, thanks! I'll use the Linux version. |
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Baytuch| |
Good evening. |
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Baytuch| |
I playing on Windows... |
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ROllerozxa |
Baytuch|: my condolences |
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Baytuch| |
I buyed license for my money |
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MinetestBot |
[git] grorp -> minetest/minetest: Mainmenu: Avoid the header being displayed behind the formspec (#13924) 4255ac3 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/4255ac302287f6ac1cfa0135c5748a4020b20ae3 (2023-11-25T16:04:33Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] srifqi -> minetest/minetest: Update Indonesian translation of builtin (#13996) 71490a4 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/71490a417e5f2e5527dc58a4a6494c5b2928bc11 (2023-11-25T16:04:44Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Zughy -> minetest/minetest: Update Italian builtin translation (#13997) 0f3ac7c https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/0f3ac7c956a7718a2b762600d728d79e9466381b (2023-11-25T16:05:07Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] grorp -> minetest/minetest: Make it possible again to see item tooltips on Android (#14029) 771da80 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/771da80bbb85c9fa4f0dcf0f3d04f46a0a20239f (2023-11-25T16:07:07Z) |
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DeepThgt |
is there any way to disable touchscreen controls and use a joystick on android? |
| 17:14 |
ROllerozxa |
nope |
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DeepThgt |
thats lame |
| 17:14 |
DeepThgt |
the touchscreen controls are unplayably bad |
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DeepThgt |
not that i think it can be done better |
| 17:14 |
DeepThgt |
touchscreen is simply bad for this type of game |
| 17:17 |
DeepThgt |
id call this a bug as change keys menu exists in minetest on android, but is non functional |
| 17:17 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> All "remote" touch controls (where you're touching some abstract button somewhere rather than the actual thing you're trying to interact with on the screen) are "bad" to varying degrees. For these kinds of things sometimes I'll actually put little pieces of tape on the screen where the buttons are to give me some tactile feedback to keep me from drifting off target. |
| 17:18 |
DeepThgt |
fair, but regardless, the change keys settings in-game should function |
| 17:20 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> MT's general lack of input flexibility (including lack of gamepad support on all platforms) is a known and much hated issue, but I think there's some movement to use SDL2 that was ongoing that's a prerequisite to bringing any kind of sanity to these things. |
| 17:20 |
DeepThgt |
lol the bug report calls that a feature request |
| 17:20 |
DeepThgt |
having menus not be useless is a "feature"? |
| 17:20 |
DeepThgt |
lmao |
| 17:20 |
DeepThgt |
but ya, sld2 would be sane |
| 17:21 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> It's neither a "bug" nor a "feature request" it's more like a roadmap-scale concern. |
| 17:21 |
DeepThgt |
well, feature request was the tag used in bug report, thought that was amusing |
| 17:22 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> You can phrase any bug report as a feature request and vice versa, so it's a judgement call which tag gets applied. It's not like people reliably prioritize one over the other anyway. |
| 17:23 |
DeepThgt |
i know its not particluarly relevant, im just amused that someone picked the less accurate of the two for the circumstances |
| 17:23 |
DeepThgt |
thats all |
| 17:23 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Which issue did you find for it? |
| 17:23 |
DeepThgt |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12488\ |
| 17:25 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> The requestor was the one who chose the feature request template, which is what included the tag. Also, the issue as stated there is broadly scoped so it does contain a fair amount of "new feature" elements. |
| 17:25 |
DeepThgt |
i guess, if you consider playable on mobile a new feature |
| 17:26 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> If you wanted just to make one specific part of this not suck, like just hide the useless menu or make something about android controls configurable, then you could file a more targeted issue ... but then there'd be the risk of it getting closed as duplicate and rolled up into the one big one. |
| 17:26 |
rubenwardy |
That's not about being playable on mobile though |
| 17:26 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> The problem with big issues like that is that small, manageable issues can get closed as duplicate for being subsets of the big issues, but the big issues never actually get fixed because they're just too damn big. |
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DeepThgt |
id consider fixing fact that the mobile client is a barely working afterthought in the mt ecosystem not a "new feature" |
| 17:27 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/10062 |
| 17:27 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> MT is objectively playable on mobile, just not subjectively. |
| 17:27 |
rubenwardy |
You want that one ^ |
| 17:27 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8541 |
| 17:28 |
rubenwardy |
For gamepads on Android https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4153 |
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rubenwardy |
If you have concrete suggestions for improving the touch controls, second to last is the issue |
| 17:29 |
rubenwardy |
5.8 is coming with single tap to place |
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DeepThgt |
thanks for the info |
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DeepThgt |
i see its non trivial |
| 17:30 |
muurkha |
I've found Minetest fairly playable on my cellphone |
| 17:30 |
muurkha |
it's a little clumsier than using a mouse and wasd |
| 17:30 |
DeepThgt |
ya, the target user in my case cannot play it at all (4 yo) |
| 17:30 |
DeepThgt |
so ive got him on an old thinkpad |
| 17:30 |
muurkha |
I haven't tried plugging in a keyboard and mouse to play it with, though I could |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> 8541 seems to suggest that games/mods should be able to control aspects of touch control layout ... in particular, being able to hide useless controls, un-hide-in-submenu important controls, and possibly adjust the general layout is pretty important to me. I have a few games that the mobile touch controls aren't good for, and in fact Roller maintains a separate touch control layout in his Android NodeCore app. |
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MTDiscord |
<nic_x1l> https://discord.gg/xxxnude @everyone @here |
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Krock |
why would there be any discord among Minetest players? |
| 17:40 |
Krock |
we're living in hamony |
| 17:40 |
Krock |
* harmony |
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DeepThgt |
nobody else excited by the possibility of hot sam on sam action? |
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ROllerozxa |
oops, someone got their discord account compromised |
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DeepThgt |
i assume thats a mt related pornongraphy discord |
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DeepThgt |
:P |
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