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jonadab |
Isn't Toki Pona the language that the Book of Woo was written in? |
| 00:16 |
muurkha |
there does seem to be a version of it: |
| 00:17 |
muurkha |
> soweli meli li nimi e ni: soweli meli li toki poka kon sewi. wan la meli suli la ona li jo e oko pimeja. tenpo nanpa walu sike pini la ona li open lon li kon sewi li kute e kon sewi. kon sewi li toke e ni: o alasa e ma mama sin. ona meli li pana e nimi “mi tawa” tawa jan sama ale sama li tawa tan ma pi suno pi pini ala. tenpo tawa tenpo, tawa ma lete la ona meli li lukin e ken pi moli en pakala. |
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muurkha |
tawa pona en sona pona la sona ona la kon sewi ike li moli ala e ona meli. tenpo suno la ona lape. tenpo pimeja la noka suno li pana e nasin tawa ona lon tan ma pimeja, lon tawa ma suno. pini pi tawa suli la ona li kama tawa ma pini. ma pini li kasi suli lon ma pi kasi suli pi kule laso pi tenpo ale. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Improve readability and infos in verbose log (#13828) c311413 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/c3114132d3062954ff6267cb7cfaf029fd37d2ac (2023-09-22T16:41:10Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Panquesito7 -> minetest/minetest: `animaition` -> `animation` (#13827) 9f47e12 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/9f47e123d2b4d4da556984a4166da88743eb821c (2023-09-22T16:41:33Z) |
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erle |
https://content.minetest.net/packages/cora/ucsigns/ yay :) |
| 18:18 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> erle: i'm currently debugging the segfault my bad apple b3d causes on latest master |
| 18:19 |
erle |
luatic start with ubsan |
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erle |
then asan |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> i've got a backtrace in gdb, it just doesn't make a lot of sense |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> although hmm, if the corruption responsible for this happens earlier on and this is just a consequence of it that could be useful |
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erle |
luatic are you using ubsan |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> no, not yet |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> lemme do that |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> is it possible that ubsan makes the compilation noticeably slower? |
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muurkha |
erle: what's the great advantage of asan over valgrind? |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> i just read that it's supposedly much faster |
| 18:47 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> "AddressSanitizer is much faster than tools that do similar analysis such as valgrind. This allows for usage on HPC codes." - from https://www.osc.edu/resources/getting_started/howto/howto_use_address_sanitizer |
| 18:47 |
muurkha |
h |
| 18:47 |
muurkha |
aha |
| 18:48 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> erle: well, asan ofc catches the segfault and gives a backtrace, but that isn't any more helpful than gdb |
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muurkha |
ubsan might be able to detect problems earlier? |
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erle |
start with ubsan please |
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erle |
no idea if it makes compilation slower |
| 18:50 |
erle |
but execution will be, due to the instrumentation |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> erle: I think I started with ubsan. Let me try again though to be sure. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> erle: aaaa now my screen is full of undefined behavior |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> i didn't even do anything yet |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> is minetest just like that |
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erle |
luatic you highlight me as if it was my fault lol |
| 18:58 |
erle |
tell |
| 18:58 |
erle |
yeah it is |
| 18:58 |
erle |
post error message to pastebin |
| 18:58 |
erle |
i wanna see what horrors you found |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> i'm getting "runtime error: member call on address 0x558b6ef05220 which does not point to an object of type 'IGUIElement'" when just starting minetest |
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erle |
i used to play minetest compiled with ubsan and what i found is that probably few other people do that |
| 18:59 |
erle |
oh oh oh wait |
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erle |
give me a moment |
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erle |
did you use -fno-sanitize=vptr |
| 19:00 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> no |
| 19:00 |
erle |
use that |
| 19:00 |
erle |
but still pastebin your shit please |
| 19:00 |
erle |
i wanna seeeeeeee |
| 19:01 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> so "-fsanitize=undefined -fno-sanitize=vptr" should be fine? |
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erle |
i think so |
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erle |
wait |
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erle |
hmm |
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erle |
one moment |
| 19:04 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> erle: https://pastebin.com/LWqRakZe |
| 19:04 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> there's also an overflow and an invalid value for bool there i think |
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erle |
compile with -g and -fno-omit-frame-pointer or how they are called |
| 19:05 |
erle |
for better debugging later |
| 19:05 |
erle |
but those 4 options should be enough |
| 19:06 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> aight |
| 19:07 |
erle |
src/client/game.cpp:1954:6: runtime error: load of value 27, which is not a valid value for type 'bool' |
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erle |
supertrue |
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erle |
luatic for added fun, run the minetest self tests with the resulting binary |
| 19:08 |
erle |
like --run-unittests |
| 19:08 |
erle |
maybe you find more fuckery! :D |
| 19:09 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> minetest and fuckery? now way! |
| 19:10 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> i'll switch to my IRC client |
| 19:10 |
sfan5 |
asan detects problems earlier than gdb, you should use it if you're looking for a bug |
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sfan5 |
ubsan, meh |
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appguru |
so i was working on bad apple but it's a b3d recently |
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appguru |
and of course i didn't want all the bad apple frames to clutter my ssd (probably not that bad but still i couldn't really estimate how large the blowup from mp4 -> png frames was going to be) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] savilli -> minetest/minetest: Don't trigger a key event if a key with the same associated char was … d57c936 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d57c936b080f404df0b544561242b0c45c57f04d (2023-09-22T19:25:13Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] rollerozxa -> minetest/minetest: Escape package description in content tab c247761 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/c247761213997e427af4805cfef0c392f98e6aea (2023-09-22T19:25:58Z) |
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appguru |
so i stuffed that on my ssd |
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appguru |
and made a symlink to my mod so that i could conveniently refer to it (and modsec wouldn't complain) |
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appguru |
but today i forgot to mount my external hard drive so the symlink is basically currently broken |
| 19:28 |
appguru |
i stuffed that on my hdd, symlink is on the ssd* |
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appguru |
now minetest.get_dir_list doesn't seem to care, so i got an empty frame directory |
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appguru |
since there were no frames, my writer produced a pretty empty b3d (vertices etc. are only lazily added as the first frame is encountered, which is needed because that tells us the resolution) |
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appguru |
now feeding this b3d to minetest killed it |
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erle |
the obvious lesson here is FULL RECOGNITION BEFORE PROCESSING |
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MTDiscord |
<bla8722> manually fuzzed b3d lol |
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erle |
MisterE123, I updated this https://github.com/minetest/blog/issues/129 |
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erle |
MisterE123, when is next blog post |
| 22:14 |
erle |
do i have to make a PR |
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erle |
??? |
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