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IRC log for #minetest, 2023-09-21

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07:39 hare_hare_yukai local var = varA > varB
07:39 hare_hare_yukai if var then do done
07:40 hare_hare_yukai is this software design is my passion moment?
07:49 erle_on_ice unlikely, lua sucks big
08:25 hare_hare_yukai what do you mean
08:25 hare_hare_yukai couldnt you just do if varA > varB ?
08:31 MTDiscord <luatic> erle_on_ice: by th usage of the done keyword, it is evident that this is bash, not lua, which sucks much more
08:31 MTDiscord <luatic> (also i disagree with "lua sucking big")
08:32 erle_on_ice :--DDD
08:32 erle_on_ice local is not POSIX sh, thus i associate it with lua
08:32 erle_on_ice i must admit i should take my pills to be more awake
08:33 erle_on_ice luatic thank you for telling me i was wrong
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10:32 hare_hare_yukai dude i was looking at lua code and saw that but i wrote done without realizing
10:32 hare_hare_yukai HAHAHAHA
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11:13 erle_on_ice hare_hare_yukai 2 idiots 1 thought i guess, we are siblings in spirit!
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12:02 erle_on_ice the uc_signs mod is pretty cool https://mister-muffin.de/p/7WyA.png
12:02 erle_on_ice i am happy i could enable this hilarity :)
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14:15 MTDiscord <luatic> erle_on_ice: so you are an ENABLER!??
14:16 erle_on_ice luatic i was married to an alcoholic and bought her beer when she was in a bad mood until i realized what i was doing, so yes, probably.
14:17 erle_on_ice coincidentally, “i was married to an alcoholic” is the BEST way to shut up people who are like “come on, drink a little, just one beer!”
14:17 erle_on_ice it gets awkward really fast
14:17 erle_on_ice and they shut up
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16:22 muurkha erle_on_ice: I'm not sure why nobody is ever like "come on, drink a little, just one beer!" when I tell them I don't like beer
16:23 muurkha bash is a better UI than the Lua REPL
16:24 erle_on_ice muurkha maybe it is a german thing
16:24 muurkha amusing tidbit: Steve Bourne would have spelled "done" as "od" but there was already an important command by that name (the hex dump command, which of course was octal because it was 01979
16:24 erle_on_ice germans love their beer
16:24 erle_on_ice lol
16:24 erle_on_ice muurkha this makes too much sense
16:24 muurkha like case ... esac
16:25 erle_on_ice and if … fi
16:25 muurkha yes
16:25 erle_on_ice how come you are using ... and i am using …
16:25 muurkha possibly for the same reason you are using “” and I am using ""
16:25 erle_on_ice oh you have an american-influenced keyboard ig
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16:26 muurkha well, Argentina is in fact in America
16:27 erle_on_ice you got me there
16:27 muurkha but yeah it's about as easy for me to type “ or … as it is for me to type ☺ or Δ
16:27 erle_on_ice do people still meme eva perons ”don't cry for me argentina”?
16:27 muurkha I don't think they ever have here
16:27 erle_on_ice i type ☺ with compose key and Δ using two modificator keys and d
16:28 muurkha I think that's like a Broadway thing
16:28 erle_on_ice don't cry for me berolina! hehehehe
16:28 muurkha berolina?
16:28 [MTMatrix] <Blockhead256> *modifier
16:28 muurkha yeah, I use https://github.com/kragen/xcompose so they're all three compose followed by two keys
16:28 muurkha yes, modifier
16:28 muurkha I mean, all three of them are compose followed by two keys
16:29 erle_on_ice berolina is the female personification of berlin, but it is old-fashioned
16:29 muurkha one shifted except for …
16:29 muurkha does Compose work in Minetest for you?
16:29 erle_on_ice i think people use the berlin bear mostly nowadays if they need a personification
16:29 erle_on_ice from the city logo
16:29 muurkha even without Unicode signs it would still be useful for chat
16:30 erle_on_ice minetest should really include unifont (or something similarly useful, but i don't think there is something) as a fallback font
16:30 muurkha I think people outside of Germany generally personify Berlin with the wall
16:30 muurkha I don't think there is anything similarly useful to unifont, no, although Noto comes close
16:30 muurkha Noto is humongous tho
16:30 erle_on_ice noto is giant and is a lot of fonts
16:30 erle_on_ice i already got messages about that with unicode signs we have the stupid situation that you can have more characters on signs than in chat
16:30 muurkha even one Noto font is about the size of Minetest
16:31 erle_on_ice because the rendering-to-a-texture thing sidesteps client side font installation
16:32 muurkha https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Cry_for_Me_Argentina explains that "Don't Cry for Me Argentina" is by a couple of Brits
16:32 muurkha and composed in 01976
16:32 muurkha so there was really a very short window of time when people here might have considered memeing it.  like 01976 to 01983
16:33 muurkha and the Perones were not exactly Anglophiles either, tending more towards xenophobia
16:33 erle_on_ice and as i pointed out before, it also allows non-unicode stuff like tengwar or toki pona or klingon
16:33 erle_on_ice cora is kind of a toki pona fan
16:33 erle_on_ice i am not so much
16:34 erle_on_ice she made a minetest game where i think everything is labeled in toki pona
16:34 muurkha you can write toki pona in ASCII
16:34 muurkha also Toki Pona is awesome
16:34 erle_on_ice the toki_pona_signs mod actually allows you to do that
16:34 muurkha Nacha Guevara did cover the song in 01977
16:34 erle_on_ice the uc_signs mod has a translation layer so that you can have sequences that are replaced
16:35 erle_on_ice and i think toki_pona_signs takes the ascii syllables and replaces them with the CSUR codepoints
16:35 erle_on_ice which then can be rendered using unifont CSUR (the unifont variant with klingon etc.)
16:36 muurkha I think the Brits have finally lost enough unpopularity that Argentine singers started covering the song again in 02015 (Diana Amarilla, then Soledad Pastorutti in 02016)
16:36 muurkha does the standard Unifont have nothing assigned in the PUA at all?
16:37 muurkha I bet my wife would enjoy cora's version
16:40 [MTMatrix] <Blockhead256> klingon is represent in some fonts with the private use area characters
16:43 muurkha blockhead256: if I understand correctly, erle_on_ice is implying that Unifont CSUR is such a font but mainline Unifont isn't
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16:55 erle_on_ice CSUR is the conscript unicode registry
16:55 erle_on_ice it allocates PUA characters so you have interoperability
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16:56 erle_on_ice muurkha i guess your wife might like this mod https://codeberg.org/cora/sitelen_pona_signs
16:56 erle_on_ice you need this one installed (cora should put it on cdb really i think) https://codeberg.org/cora/uc_signs
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17:04 muurkha I'll show her
17:05 erle_on_ice yay
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