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jt2.intraversal.net:30002 seems to be down (IPv4) |
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Guest89 |
hi |
| 12:36 |
Guest89 |
I assume no one is here and you are all idling |
| 12:36 |
Guest89 |
and you wont help me |
| 12:36 |
Guest89 |
im pretty sure im right |
| 12:36 |
Guest89 |
I'm using linux mint |
| 12:37 |
Guest89 |
nd your fucking CA thing won't let me download |
| 12:37 |
Guest89 |
and your fucking HTTPFetch has no way to allow "wrong " ssl certs |
| 12:37 |
pjals |
what |
| 12:37 |
Guest89 |
and changing the pem file to use in /etc/ssl/openssl.conf doesn't fucking work |
| 12:37 |
pjals |
calm the fuck down |
| 12:37 |
Guest89 |
so you're not even using the system pem files |
| 12:38 |
Guest89 |
and setting contentdb to HTTP://content.minetest.net |
| 12:38 |
Guest89 |
NOPE |
| 12:38 |
Guest89 |
your FUCKING server FORCES SSL |
| 12:38 |
pjals |
why do you want to use different CAs? |
| 12:38 |
Guest89 |
look |
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pjals |
calm the fuck down |
| 12:38 |
Guest89 |
i want you shit lets encryrpt fucking BULLSHIT cert to work |
| 12:38 |
Guest89 |
but the FUCKED up their root cert in 2021 |
| 12:38 |
ROllerozxa |
greetings |
| 12:39 |
Guest89 |
AND 2023 |
| 12:39 |
pjals |
im not gonna help you if you talk like this |
| 12:39 |
Guest89 |
you want to fight me? |
| 12:39 |
pjals |
this is entirely your fault that your not getting help |
| 12:39 |
Guest89 |
i read the crap on your forums |
| 12:39 |
Guest89 |
tried it |
| 12:39 |
Guest89 |
nothing works |
| 12:39 |
pjals |
wdym my forums? |
| 12:39 |
Guest89 |
yea your minetest forums |
| 12:39 |
pjals |
im not responsible for the minetest forum or minetest |
| 12:39 |
Guest89 |
look im a linux game dev |
| 12:39 |
pjals |
it shouldnt be attributed to me |
| 12:39 |
Guest89 |
I code C |
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Guest89 |
and QC |
| 12:40 |
pjals |
...and? |
| 12:40 |
Guest89 |
and I extended darkplaces max entity limit netcode from 32k to 4 million |
| 12:40 |
Guest89 |
and I do 3d modeling |
| 12:40 |
Guest89 |
and music |
| 12:40 |
Guest89 |
and textures |
| 12:40 |
Guest89 |
etc |
| 12:40 |
pjals |
and? |
| 12:40 |
pjals |
stop flexing your achievements |
| 12:40 |
Guest89 |
you think you're better? |
| 12:40 |
Guest89 |
:AND" |
| 12:40 |
pjals |
it makes you not a good person, but a worse one |
| 12:40 |
ROllerozxa |
if you want it to ignore a certificate your system doesn't trust, you can set `curl_verify_cert` to false |
| 12:40 |
Guest89 |
oh im a lawyer too |
| 12:40 |
Guest89 |
dipshit fuck |
| 12:40 |
Guest89 |
and I do not give a FUCK about your Jesus and being a "good" person |
| 12:41 |
pjals |
why the hell are you so heated |
| 12:41 |
Guest89 |
I like the OLD testament God |
| 12:41 |
Guest89 |
because he's pro child bride |
| 12:41 |
Guest89 |
and is a rapist |
| 12:41 |
pjals |
i dont even believe in christianity and what the hell does my religion have to do with this |
| 12:41 |
Guest89 |
and a thug |
| 12:41 |
Guest89 |
you fucking piece of shit |
| 12:41 |
Guest89 |
you uphold christian values |
| 12:41 |
pjals |
well its a good thing that you cant delete messages in irc |
| 12:41 |
Guest89 |
Jesus said "chop your dick off for the kingdom of heaven" --Mathew 19 |
| 12:42 |
Guest89 |
OT God said "no people with cut off dicks in the assembly of the ruler" -- Devarim |
| 12:42 |
Guest89 |
your Jesus is the "good" person: feminist, anti-child bride (MILLSTONE) pro-tranny |
| 12:42 |
Guest89 |
and "pro being nice" |
| 12:42 |
Guest89 |
or something |
| 12:42 |
Guest89 |
thus you are like |
| 12:42 |
pjals |
antitheist, transphobic, generally heated, list some more please |
| 12:42 |
Guest89 |
"don't flex" |
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MTDiscord |
<flamore> what the FUCK |
| 12:43 |
Guest89 |
Im not antitheist |
| 12:43 |
Guest89 |
i like the OT God |
| 12:43 |
pjals |
HAHAHA good joke |
| 12:43 |
Guest89 |
of the first 5 books or so |
| 12:43 |
pjals |
anyway im gonna put this room on low priority since im tired of this |
| 12:43 |
Guest89 |
I don't like the NT crap |
| 12:43 |
Guest89 |
fuck you |
| 12:43 |
ROllerozxa |
anyways so did you want help with your issue or do you just want an outlet for your anger |
| 12:43 |
MTDiscord |
<flamore> can someone take care of this |
| 12:43 |
Guest89 |
2023-07-04 08:35:01: ERROR[Main]: HTTPFetch for http://content.minetest.net/api/packages/?type=mod&type=game&type=txp&protocol_version=43&engine_version=5.8.0-dev&hide=nonfree&hide=desktop_default failed (SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK) |
| 12:43 |
Guest89 |
2023-07-04 08:35:01: ERROR[Main]: HTTPFetch for http://content.minetest.net/api/packages/?type=mod&type=game&type=txp&protocol_version=43&engine_version=5.8.0-dev&hide=nonfree&hide=desktop_default failed (SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK) |
| 12:43 |
Guest89 |
2023-07-04 08:35:01: ERROR[Main]: HTTPFetch for http://content.minetest.net/api/packages/?type=mod&type=game&type=txp&protocol_version=43&engine_version=5.8.0-dev&hide=nonfree&hide=desktop_default failed (SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK) |
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ROllerozxa |
flamore: they took care of themselves, flood kick :P |
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Guest89 |
2023-07-04 08:35:01: ERROR[Main]: HTTPFetch for http://content.minetest.net/api/packages/?type=mod&type=game&type=txp&protocol_version=43&engine_version=5.8.0-dev&hide=nonfree&hide=desktop_default failed (SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK) |
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MTDiscord |
<flamore> amazing |
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| 12:44 |
Guest89 |
I read all the ways to "fix" this |
| 12:45 |
Guest89 |
and they do not fucking work |
| 12:45 |
Guest89 |
note: it works fine on my newer laptop |
| 12:45 |
ROllerozxa |
did you try `curl_verify_cert = false` |
| 12:45 |
Guest89 |
but I want minetest content to beable to be gotten on my mom's laptop |
| 12:45 |
ily |
ur mom |
| 12:45 |
Guest89 |
ROIL curl works fine: as a command: |
| 12:45 |
Guest89 |
yea |
| 12:46 |
Guest89 |
so this "crap laptop" has a use |
| 12:46 |
ily |
ass n titties |
| 12:46 |
Guest89 |
it's a 2021 lin mint install |
| 12:46 |
Guest89 |
ROllerozxa : how do I get verify_cert=false into minetest |
| 12:46 |
ily |
why |
| 12:46 |
Guest89 |
compiling minetest took like a 1/2 an hour on this |
| 12:46 |
ily |
dont |
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ily |
u |
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ily |
just |
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ily |
stop |
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ily |
being |
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ily |
a |
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Guest89 |
non christian? |
| 12:47 |
ily |
wat |
| 12:47 |
ROllerozxa |
Guest89: put it in minetest.conf |
| 12:47 |
ily |
why r u ringibng christian shit into a game channel |
| 12:47 |
Guest89 |
you said why don't you stop being... |
| 12:47 |
ily |
fuck off |
| 12:47 |
ily |
i said retard |
| 12:47 |
ily |
actualy |
| 12:47 |
ROllerozxa |
depending on if you're RUN_IN_PLACE it's either in the source tree or in ~/.minetest/ |
| 12:47 |
ily |
u a retard |
| 12:47 |
Guest89 |
ily because you equate being a good person with "not flexing" |
| 12:47 |
ily |
who cant figure out web |
| 12:47 |
ily |
or games |
| 12:47 |
ily |
and ur a christian bitch |
| 12:47 |
Guest89 |
that is a christian New Testament belief |
| 12:47 |
ily |
double strike |
| 12:47 |
ily |
one more strike |
| 12:47 |
Guest89 |
and you don't even know where it come from |
| 12:47 |
ily |
and ur out |
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ily |
Guest89: i didnt do that |
| 12:48 |
ROllerozxa |
ily: please stop trying to kick up even more shit |
| 12:48 |
ily |
lol |
| 12:48 |
Guest89 |
ily : I've written over a megabyte of code for an opensource game |
| 12:48 |
ily |
nobody |
| 12:48 |
ily |
cares |
| 12:48 |
ily |
asshole |
| 12:48 |
ily |
suck my |
| 12:48 |
Guest89 |
"not knowing" gaming isn't a problem of mine |
| 12:49 |
ily |
not understanding ssl is one |
| 12:49 |
Guest89 |
nope: only those who don't code or do anything "don't care" |
| 12:49 |
ily |
dont care |
| 12:49 |
ily |
ur anoying |
| 12:49 |
ily |
also |
| 12:49 |
ily |
ur dumb |
| 12:49 |
ily |
cus u failed |
| 12:49 |
ily |
already |
| 12:49 |
ily |
hahahahahahahahahahahaha |
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| 12:49 |
ROllerozxa |
ShadowBot: good bot |
| 12:50 |
ROllerozxa |
anyways so yes, you'd put it in minetest.conf, and it disables checking certificates |
| 12:50 |
Guest89 |
ily: my game doesn't use external SSL certs: the german who programmed the C code there made sure it was self contained in the engine etc itself: and it encrypts the game client to server data streamL not just your downloads: so yea got you beat there too |
| 12:50 |
Guest89 |
oh and it was me who paid him to do it |
| 12:51 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> of course of course |
| 12:51 |
Guest89 |
so yea I kinda know ssl /abit/: but alot of it is bullshit ment to discorage self signed certs (which are only a problem if your are getting ettercap MITM'd the first time you collect the cert) and encorage expensive commercal setups |
| 12:52 |
Guest89 |
our game, since a decade ago, generates it's own certs, and self signed if you can't connect to the cert server |
| 12:52 |
Guest89 |
so you're always good; and always have encrypted comms with the sever |
| 12:54 |
Guest89 |
ROllerozxa : that worked: thank you very much |
| 12:54 |
Guest89 |
ROllerozxa I like the undeletable map option you guys put in in git merge 783839 or whatever it was |
| 12:54 |
Guest89 |
I used that for a save |
| 12:54 |
Guest89 |
had to read the code abit |
| 12:55 |
Guest89 |
and add resomethingmap in the worlddir and cp the map.sqllite to it and set a setting in the world.mt |
| 12:55 |
Guest89 |
but it lets me deleteblocks and then the area is restored |
| 12:55 |
Guest89 |
nice feature |
| 12:58 |
celeron55 |
the "edgiest person so far in 2023" title goes to... |
| 12:58 |
Guest89 |
Guest89 08:54:01 |
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Guest89 |
ROllerozxa again thank you |
| 12:58 |
Guest89 |
celeron: a 37 yr old lawyer ? |
| 12:59 |
Guest89 |
bet I never could implement this map format in my game/engine tho |
| 12:59 |
ROllerozxa |
Guest89: yes yes, you're welcome :) |
| 12:59 |
Guest89 |
best I could do was get wolfenstine enemy territory maps etc working in the engine |
| 12:59 |
Guest89 |
and that took me a month of hacking |
| 13:00 |
Guest89 |
then I was told "we could have done that easy" |
| 13:00 |
Guest89 |
I asked them 10 yrs ago |
| 13:00 |
Guest89 |
same with the more entity support |
| 13:01 |
Guest89 |
that took a month too as I had to trace the whole program and find all the places it was using a 2 or 4 byte datastructure and change it (plus doing the new netcode) |
| 13:01 |
Guest89 |
fortunately FTW quake did it first so the netcode algo wasn't too hard |
| 13:01 |
Guest89 |
(inspiration from Yureka of that project (now called Eureka)) |
| 13:02 |
celeron55 |
so MT is working good on the laptop now? how old is the laptop anyway, why do you have an old version of linux mint on it? |
| 13:02 |
Guest89 |
if it was SOOOOOO easy: why didn't they do it in the last decade? |
| 13:02 |
Guest89 |
celeron55: from the begining of the "pandemic" |
| 13:02 |
Guest89 |
whenever that was |
| 13:02 |
Guest89 |
I can't remeber what year that was |
| 13:02 |
Guest89 |
they go by so fast |
| 13:03 |
celeron55 |
i know mint is annoying to upgrade, that's why i don't use mint |
| 13:03 |
Guest89 |
it's like living on a black hole event horizon |
| 13:03 |
Guest89 |
celeron55: I usually uses devuan |
| 13:03 |
Guest89 |
(debian hostile ripoff) |
| 13:03 |
Guest89 |
(of extra freeness) |
| 13:03 |
Guest89 |
but for "easy" machines I do mint |
| 13:03 |
Guest89 |
never updated them tho |
| 13:04 |
Guest89 |
celeron55 which distro do you use? |
| 13:04 |
Guest89 |
my favorite was debian 7 |
| 13:04 |
Guest89 |
it had grsecurity: before it went proprietary |
| 13:04 |
Guest89 |
(a kernel and gcc derivative work) |
| 13:04 |
celeron55 |
fedora. the offline upgrade process has worked nearly a decade on this laptop, through each version |
| 13:05 |
Guest89 |
grsecurity today claims that they can add a "no redistribution" clause to their kernel patch (and gcc) patch and it's not violating the GPL |
| 13:05 |
Guest89 |
because they didn't pen the additional restrictions onto the printed page of the gpl itself |
| 13:05 |
Guest89 |
and thus are not adding additional restrictions to the GPL!1111 |
| 13:06 |
Guest89 |
no one has sued them |
| 13:06 |
celeron55 |
sounds like kids being silly |
| 13:06 |
Guest89 |
500k to sue them |
| 13:06 |
Guest89 |
it's a federal issue |
| 13:06 |
Guest89 |
and not one you want to lose due to poor pre-trial gamesmanship |
| 13:06 |
Guest89 |
(ie the pretrial motions they will file even tho frivolus) |
| 13:07 |
Guest89 |
anyone got 1/2 a mill to hire a Team? |
| 13:07 |
Guest89 |
I can't do it myself because I'm not on the federal bar |
| 13:07 |
Guest89 |
and you really need a Team |
| 13:08 |
Guest89 |
because someone has to parry the pretrial motion bullshit they do |
| 13:08 |
Guest89 |
last case when grsecurity tried to shut up Bruce Perens, grsec filed tons of bullshit paper |
| 13:08 |
Guest89 |
the judge got mad at their lawyer |
| 13:08 |
Guest89 |
but you have to respond to it |
| 13:09 |
Guest89 |
no matter how spurious it is |
| 13:09 |
celeron55 |
fun strategy |
| 13:09 |
Guest89 |
it really wastes money and time |
| 13:09 |
Guest89 |
and it's worked for them so far |
| 13:09 |
Guest89 |
no linux copyright holder has sued |
| 13:09 |
Guest89 |
because no one has the money to do it |
| 13:10 |
Guest89 |
even though some would like to |
| 13:10 |
Guest89 |
so the violation goes on and on; as a continuing and new violation every new kernel version they make a "product" for |
| 13:12 |
Guest89 |
they've also tried to "contribute" to GCC (saing they'll make a rust compiler for it) |
| 13:13 |
Guest89 |
the reason is this: under US Jurisprudence: a joint copyright holder has the right to license out the joint-work to whomever he wishes, and under whatever terms he wishes, by default |
| 13:13 |
Guest89 |
now: GCC, Linux, etc have not be ajudicated a Joint-Work |
| 13:13 |
Guest89 |
but it is not impossible for, if it was to go to trial, that they would be found to be so |
| 13:14 |
Guest89 |
so it's dangerous to accept contribs from them |
| 13:14 |
Guest89 |
(and the kernel never has) |
| 13:14 |
Guest89 |
(kernel has /reimplemented/ de-minimus fixes and changes grsec made first tho) |
| 13:16 |
definitelya_ |
What the hecking HECK?!? child bride? rape? |
| 13:17 |
definitelya_ |
Weirdo |
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celeron55 |
that's new to me, do other countries have such joint work licensing defaults? |
| 13:19 |
celeron55 |
i'd assume not many, because generally companies make their contributors sign a licensing agreement |
| 13:19 |
celeron55 |
of course... if there wasn't an agreement then the contributor could also freely license the thing |
| 13:19 |
celeron55 |
in case of such a default |
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Guest89 |
definitelya_: 5th book of Old Testament, chapter 22, verse 28: in HEBREW, GREEK, and Latin (NOT ENGLISH) |
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Guest89 |
' |
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definitelya_ |
' |
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rubenwardy |
they probably won't return, but to be clear: that sort of conduct at the start is not acceptable, and will lead to mutes/bans |
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celeron55 |
i found it funny and from my experience they seemed like someone who isn't coming back. but yes for sure far from appropriate |
| 13:47 |
rubenwardy |
(that was a temp ban) |
| 13:47 |
rubenwardy |
(bc they did go on track afterwards. Also, op moderation tools suck) |
| 13:48 |
rubenwardy |
*irc |
| 13:51 |
rubenwardy |
anyway - ContentDB is HTTPS because downloading software without any cryptography is a terrible idea. Before you say it - APT is HTTP yes, but signs the packages themselves |
| 13:52 |
rubenwardy |
also all my sites are HTTPS as a general rule |
| 13:52 |
celeron55 |
if someone needs to vent, this isn't the worst place to do that, as long as you keep away from personal threats and insults. but if anyone feels targeted then PM a moderator (the slight problem in that is that in here moderators aren't really marked in any way but... i hope it works out) |
| 13:53 |
celeron55 |
his criticism was mostly about the let's encrypt CA which is too new for old distros |
| 13:54 |
celeron55 |
it can be a pain for sure |
| 13:54 |
celeron55 |
sometimes you can't justify or aren't allowed to update a system or add CAs |
| 13:55 |
celeron55 |
and that then prevents the server list from working |
| 13:56 |
celeron55 |
ideally MT would at least ship with the required certs for normal use |
| 13:56 |
celeron55 |
but eh, whatever. there are bigger problems |
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dibesfer[m] |
What is CA |
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celeron55 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_authority |
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rubenwardy |
Canada |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Also California. |
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MinetestBot |
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