Time Nick Message 05:14 ily :o 05:14 ily recomend me a server 05:42 Blockhead256[m] !up jt2.intraversal.net:30002 05:42 MinetestBot jt2.intraversal.net:30002 seems to be down (IPv4) 05:42 Blockhead256[m] :( 12:36 Guest89 hi 12:36 Guest89 I assume no one is here and you are all idling 12:36 Guest89 and you wont help me 12:36 Guest89 im pretty sure im right 12:36 Guest89 I'm using linux mint 12:37 Guest89 nd your fucking CA thing won't let me download 12:37 Guest89 and your fucking HTTPFetch has no way to allow "wrong " ssl certs 12:37 pjals what 12:37 Guest89 and changing the pem file to use in /etc/ssl/openssl.conf doesn't fucking work 12:37 pjals calm the fuck down 12:37 Guest89 so you're not even using the system pem files 12:38 Guest89 and setting contentdb to HTTP://content.minetest.net 12:38 Guest89 NOPE 12:38 Guest89 your FUCKING server FORCES SSL 12:38 pjals why do you want to use different CAs? 12:38 Guest89 look 12:38 pjals calm the fuck down 12:38 Guest89 i want you shit lets encryrpt fucking BULLSHIT cert to work 12:38 Guest89 but the FUCKED up their root cert in 2021 12:38 ROllerozxa greetings 12:39 Guest89 AND 2023 12:39 pjals im not gonna help you if you talk like this 12:39 Guest89 you want to fight me? 12:39 pjals this is entirely your fault that your not getting help 12:39 Guest89 i read the crap on your forums 12:39 Guest89 tried it 12:39 Guest89 nothing works 12:39 pjals wdym my forums? 12:39 Guest89 yea your minetest forums 12:39 pjals im not responsible for the minetest forum or minetest 12:39 Guest89 look im a linux game dev 12:39 pjals it shouldnt be attributed to me 12:39 Guest89 I code C 12:39 Guest89 and QC 12:40 pjals ...and? 12:40 Guest89 and I extended darkplaces max entity limit netcode from 32k to 4 million 12:40 Guest89 and I do 3d modeling 12:40 Guest89 and music 12:40 Guest89 and textures 12:40 Guest89 etc 12:40 pjals and? 12:40 pjals stop flexing your achievements 12:40 Guest89 you think you're better? 12:40 Guest89 :AND" 12:40 pjals it makes you not a good person, but a worse one 12:40 ROllerozxa if you want it to ignore a certificate your system doesn't trust, you can set `curl_verify_cert` to false 12:40 Guest89 oh im a lawyer too 12:40 Guest89 dipshit fuck 12:40 Guest89 and I do not give a FUCK about your Jesus and being a "good" person 12:41 pjals why the hell are you so heated 12:41 Guest89 I like the OLD testament God 12:41 Guest89 because he's pro child bride 12:41 Guest89 and is a rapist 12:41 pjals i dont even believe in christianity and what the hell does my religion have to do with this 12:41 Guest89 and a thug 12:41 Guest89 you fucking piece of shit 12:41 Guest89 you uphold christian values 12:41 pjals well its a good thing that you cant delete messages in irc 12:41 Guest89 Jesus said "chop your dick off for the kingdom of heaven" --Mathew 19 12:42 Guest89 OT God said "no people with cut off dicks in the assembly of the ruler" -- Devarim 12:42 Guest89 your Jesus is the "good" person: feminist, anti-child bride (MILLSTONE) pro-tranny 12:42 Guest89 and "pro being nice" 12:42 Guest89 or something 12:42 Guest89 thus you are like 12:42 pjals antitheist, transphobic, generally heated, list some more please 12:42 Guest89 "don't flex" 12:42 MTDiscord what the FUCK 12:43 Guest89 Im not antitheist 12:43 Guest89 i like the OT God 12:43 pjals HAHAHA good joke 12:43 Guest89 of the first 5 books or so 12:43 pjals anyway im gonna put this room on low priority since im tired of this 12:43 Guest89 I don't like the NT crap 12:43 Guest89 fuck you 12:43 ROllerozxa anyways so did you want help with your issue or do you just want an outlet for your anger 12:43 MTDiscord can someone take care of this 12:43 Guest89 2023-07-04 08:35:01: ERROR[Main]: HTTPFetch for http://content.minetest.net/api/packages/?type=mod&type=game&type=txp&protocol_version=43&engine_version=5.8.0-dev&hide=nonfree&hide=desktop_default failed (SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK) 12:43 Guest89 2023-07-04 08:35:01: ERROR[Main]: HTTPFetch for http://content.minetest.net/api/packages/?type=mod&type=game&type=txp&protocol_version=43&engine_version=5.8.0-dev&hide=nonfree&hide=desktop_default failed (SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK) 12:43 Guest89 2023-07-04 08:35:01: ERROR[Main]: HTTPFetch for http://content.minetest.net/api/packages/?type=mod&type=game&type=txp&protocol_version=43&engine_version=5.8.0-dev&hide=nonfree&hide=desktop_default failed (SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK) 12:44 ROllerozxa flamore: they took care of themselves, flood kick :P 12:44 Guest89 2023-07-04 08:35:01: ERROR[Main]: HTTPFetch for http://content.minetest.net/api/packages/?type=mod&type=game&type=txp&protocol_version=43&engine_version=5.8.0-dev&hide=nonfree&hide=desktop_default failed (SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK) 12:44 MTDiscord amazing 12:44 Guest89 I read all the ways to "fix" this 12:45 Guest89 and they do not fucking work 12:45 Guest89 note: it works fine on my newer laptop 12:45 ROllerozxa did you try `curl_verify_cert = false` 12:45 Guest89 but I want minetest content to beable to be gotten on my mom's laptop 12:45 ily ur mom 12:45 Guest89 ROIL curl works fine: as a command: 12:45 Guest89 yea 12:46 Guest89 so this "crap laptop" has a use 12:46 ily ass n titties 12:46 Guest89 it's a 2021 lin mint install 12:46 Guest89 ROllerozxa : how do I get verify_cert=false into minetest 12:46 ily why 12:46 Guest89 compiling minetest took like a 1/2 an hour on this 12:46 ily dont 12:46 ily u 12:46 ily just 12:46 ily stop 12:46 ily being 12:46 ily a 12:47 Guest89 non christian? 12:47 ily wat 12:47 ROllerozxa Guest89: put it in minetest.conf 12:47 ily why r u ringibng christian shit into a game channel 12:47 Guest89 you said why don't you stop being... 12:47 ily fuck off 12:47 ily i said retard 12:47 ily actualy 12:47 ROllerozxa depending on if you're RUN_IN_PLACE it's either in the source tree or in ~/.minetest/ 12:47 ily u a retard 12:47 Guest89 ily because you equate being a good person with "not flexing" 12:47 ily who cant figure out web 12:47 ily or games 12:47 ily and ur a christian bitch 12:47 Guest89 that is a christian New Testament belief 12:47 ily double strike 12:47 ily one more strike 12:47 Guest89 and you don't even know where it come from 12:47 ily and ur out 12:48 ily Guest89: i didnt do that 12:48 ROllerozxa ily: please stop trying to kick up even more shit 12:48 ily lol 12:48 Guest89 ily : I've written over a megabyte of code for an opensource game 12:48 ily nobody 12:48 ily cares 12:48 ily asshole 12:48 ily suck my 12:48 Guest89 "not knowing" gaming isn't a problem of mine 12:49 ily not understanding ssl is one 12:49 Guest89 nope: only those who don't code or do anything "don't care" 12:49 ily dont care 12:49 ily ur anoying 12:49 ily also 12:49 ily ur dumb 12:49 ily cus u failed 12:49 ily already 12:49 ily hahahahahahahahahahahaha 12:49 ROllerozxa ShadowBot: good bot 12:50 ROllerozxa anyways so yes, you'd put it in minetest.conf, and it disables checking certificates 12:50 Guest89 ily: my game doesn't use external SSL certs: the german who programmed the C code there made sure it was self contained in the engine etc itself: and it encrypts the game client to server data streamL not just your downloads: so yea got you beat there too 12:50 Guest89 oh and it was me who paid him to do it 12:51 MTDiscord of course of course 12:51 Guest89 so yea I kinda know ssl /abit/: but alot of it is bullshit ment to discorage self signed certs (which are only a problem if your are getting ettercap MITM'd the first time you collect the cert) and encorage expensive commercal setups 12:52 Guest89 our game, since a decade ago, generates it's own certs, and self signed if you can't connect to the cert server 12:52 Guest89 so you're always good; and always have encrypted comms with the sever 12:54 Guest89 ROllerozxa : that worked: thank you very much 12:54 Guest89 ROllerozxa I like the undeletable map option you guys put in in git merge 783839 or whatever it was 12:54 Guest89 I used that for a save 12:54 Guest89 had to read the code abit 12:55 Guest89 and add resomethingmap in the worlddir and cp the map.sqllite to it and set a setting in the world.mt 12:55 Guest89 but it lets me deleteblocks and then the area is restored 12:55 Guest89 nice feature 12:58 celeron55 the "edgiest person so far in 2023" title goes to... 12:58 Guest89 Guest89 08:54:01 12:58 Guest89 ROllerozxa again thank you 12:58 Guest89 celeron: a 37 yr old lawyer ? 12:59 Guest89 bet I never could implement this map format in my game/engine tho 12:59 ROllerozxa Guest89: yes yes, you're welcome :) 12:59 Guest89 best I could do was get wolfenstine enemy territory maps etc working in the engine 12:59 Guest89 and that took me a month of hacking 13:00 Guest89 then I was told "we could have done that easy" 13:00 Guest89 I asked them 10 yrs ago 13:00 Guest89 same with the more entity support 13:01 Guest89 that took a month too as I had to trace the whole program and find all the places it was using a 2 or 4 byte datastructure and change it (plus doing the new netcode) 13:01 Guest89 fortunately FTW quake did it first so the netcode algo wasn't too hard 13:01 Guest89 (inspiration from Yureka of that project (now called Eureka)) 13:02 celeron55 so MT is working good on the laptop now? how old is the laptop anyway, why do you have an old version of linux mint on it? 13:02 Guest89 if it was SOOOOOO easy: why didn't they do it in the last decade? 13:02 Guest89 celeron55: from the begining of the "pandemic" 13:02 Guest89 whenever that was 13:02 Guest89 I can't remeber what year that was 13:02 Guest89 they go by so fast 13:03 celeron55 i know mint is annoying to upgrade, that's why i don't use mint 13:03 Guest89 it's like living on a black hole event horizon 13:03 Guest89 celeron55: I usually uses devuan 13:03 Guest89 (debian hostile ripoff) 13:03 Guest89 (of extra freeness) 13:03 Guest89 but for "easy" machines I do mint 13:03 Guest89 never updated them tho 13:04 Guest89 celeron55 which distro do you use? 13:04 Guest89 my favorite was debian 7 13:04 Guest89 it had grsecurity: before it went proprietary 13:04 Guest89 (a kernel and gcc derivative work) 13:04 celeron55 fedora. the offline upgrade process has worked nearly a decade on this laptop, through each version 13:05 Guest89 grsecurity today claims that they can add a "no redistribution" clause to their kernel patch (and gcc) patch and it's not violating the GPL 13:05 Guest89 because they didn't pen the additional restrictions onto the printed page of the gpl itself 13:05 Guest89 and thus are not adding additional restrictions to the GPL!1111 13:06 Guest89 no one has sued them 13:06 celeron55 sounds like kids being silly 13:06 Guest89 500k to sue them 13:06 Guest89 it's a federal issue 13:06 Guest89 and not one you want to lose due to poor pre-trial gamesmanship 13:06 Guest89 (ie the pretrial motions they will file even tho frivolus) 13:07 Guest89 anyone got 1/2 a mill to hire a Team? 13:07 Guest89 I can't do it myself because I'm not on the federal bar 13:07 Guest89 and you really need a Team 13:08 Guest89 because someone has to parry the pretrial motion bullshit they do 13:08 Guest89 last case when grsecurity tried to shut up Bruce Perens, grsec filed tons of bullshit paper 13:08 Guest89 the judge got mad at their lawyer 13:08 Guest89 but you have to respond to it 13:09 Guest89 no matter how spurious it is 13:09 celeron55 fun strategy 13:09 Guest89 it really wastes money and time 13:09 Guest89 and it's worked for them so far 13:09 Guest89 no linux copyright holder has sued 13:09 Guest89 because no one has the money to do it 13:10 Guest89 even though some would like to 13:10 Guest89 so the violation goes on and on; as a continuing and new violation every new kernel version they make a "product" for 13:12 Guest89 they've also tried to "contribute" to GCC (saing they'll make a rust compiler for it) 13:13 Guest89 the reason is this: under US Jurisprudence: a joint copyright holder has the right to license out the joint-work to whomever he wishes, and under whatever terms he wishes, by default 13:13 Guest89 now: GCC, Linux, etc have not be ajudicated a Joint-Work 13:13 Guest89 but it is not impossible for, if it was to go to trial, that they would be found to be so 13:14 Guest89 so it's dangerous to accept contribs from them 13:14 Guest89 (and the kernel never has) 13:14 Guest89 (kernel has /reimplemented/ de-minimus fixes and changes grsec made first tho) 13:16 definitelya_ What the hecking HECK?!? child bride? rape? 13:17 definitelya_ Weirdo 13:18 celeron55 that's new to me, do other countries have such joint work licensing defaults? 13:19 celeron55 i'd assume not many, because generally companies make their contributors sign a licensing agreement 13:19 celeron55 of course... if there wasn't an agreement then the contributor could also freely license the thing 13:19 celeron55 in case of such a default 13:28 Guest89 definitelya_: 5th book of Old Testament, chapter 22, verse 28: in HEBREW, GREEK, and Latin (NOT ENGLISH) 13:28 Guest89 ' 13:29 definitelya_ ' 13:43 rubenwardy they probably won't return, but to be clear: that sort of conduct at the start is not acceptable, and will lead to mutes/bans 13:47 celeron55 i found it funny and from my experience they seemed like someone who isn't coming back. but yes for sure far from appropriate 13:47 rubenwardy (that was a temp ban) 13:47 rubenwardy (bc they did go on track afterwards. Also, op moderation tools suck) 13:48 rubenwardy *irc 13:51 rubenwardy anyway - ContentDB is HTTPS because downloading software without any cryptography is a terrible idea. Before you say it - APT is HTTP yes, but signs the packages themselves 13:52 rubenwardy also all my sites are HTTPS as a general rule 13:52 celeron55 if someone needs to vent, this isn't the worst place to do that, as long as you keep away from personal threats and insults. but if anyone feels targeted then PM a moderator (the slight problem in that is that in here moderators aren't really marked in any way but... i hope it works out) 13:53 celeron55 his criticism was mostly about the let's encrypt CA which is too new for old distros 13:54 celeron55 it can be a pain for sure 13:54 celeron55 sometimes you can't justify or aren't allowed to update a system or add CAs 13:55 celeron55 and that then prevents the server list from working 13:56 celeron55 ideally MT would at least ship with the required certs for normal use 13:56 celeron55 but eh, whatever. there are bigger problems 14:04 dibesfer[m] What is CA 14:10 celeron55 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_authority 14:11 rubenwardy Canada 14:23 MTDiscord Also California. 15:47 Blockhead256[m] !up jt2.intraversal.net:30002 15:47 MinetestBot jt2.intraversal.net:30002 seems to be down (IPv4) 18:03 dibesfer[m] Spain