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IRC log for #minetest, 2023-07-03

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03:57 Blockhead256[m] packet loss? Shouldn't that be accounted for with RUDP?
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10:24 sfan5 our netcode doesn't deal well with packet loss
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14:24 NeeRi Hello! I just got into minetest but I have never played any of the games that are in contentDB. Can someone recommend me some that are suitable for beginners?
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15:30 VoidStalker Looks like Matrix users are being kicked now.
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15:37 Blockhead256[m] the matrix bridge has been having a fit recently, so nothing new
15:38 triallax[m] https://libera.chat/news/matrix-deportalling
15:39 VoidStalker I hear Libera is trying to disable the bridge. Matrix is my only way of accessing Libera rooms, since they block VPNs and Tor.
15:39 dibesfer[m] Oh mama
15:39 triallax[m] Do they?
15:39 triallax[m] I used to log in to Libera.chat with ProtonVPN.
15:39 VoidStalker triallax[m]: I'm unable to register.
15:39 dibesfer[m] Unstable*
15:40 pjals it seems like they try their best to block public proxies, I couldn't log in without SASL to libera with a vpn
15:40 VoidStalker I couldn't register at all.
15:40 pjals and i cant register since i cant access nickserv and such through the vpn
15:40 triallax[m] Hmm, I did use SASL.
15:40 triallax[m] Also, to be precise, they aren't "disabling the bridge," they just won't allow joining channels by default.
15:40 triallax[m] Channel operators have to opt-in basically.
15:41 VoidStalker triallax[m]: Most likely the majority of them won't, either deliberately, or from not knowing what Matrix is.
15:41 triallax[m] I've yet to join an IRC channel with no Matrix users on it, so I'm not sure I agree.
15:42 triallax[m] But yes, they may purposely not enable it.
15:43 VoidStalker People don't respect privacy and anonymity anymore. It's sad. If they're concerned with abuse, just have a moderator or two on the Matrix side to take care of things.
15:43 pjals some channels require you to identify through nickserv to use the matrix bridge
15:43 triallax[m] That's not it.
15:43 triallax[m] They're concerned about the amount of hiccups the bridge is having.
15:43 VoidStalker pjals: Which I can't do to my knowledge from messaging the appservice bot.
15:43 triallax[m] https://libera.chat/news/matrix-irc-bridge-updates
15:44 dibesfer[m] Just relax and have fun
15:44 pjals why are you using appservice to identify???
15:44 triallax[m] > We are aware that the Libera.Chat matrix<>IRC bridge (operated by Element Matrix Services, ‘EMS’) has experienced a number of issues as of late, including silently dropping messages, dropping connections, and leaking information about the existence of +s (secret) channels to users not in those channels.
15:44 pjals just use NickServ from matrix!
15:44 VoidStalker pjals: I can't find the NickServ bots. I use multiple networks.
15:44 pjals ...@NickServ:libera.chat
15:46 VoidStalker And for other networks, it's likely going to be `@NickServ:NETWORK`?
15:47 pjals no, because most other networks dont provide matrix bridges from what i've seen
15:47 VoidStalker s/`@/@/, s/`?/?/
15:47 pjals but nickserv is almost always nickserv
15:47 triallax[m] OFTC is bridged off the top of my head.
15:47 VoidStalker pjals: I mainly use Libera and Hackint.
15:48 pjals because good luck trying to configure nickserv not to use the nick nickserv
15:48 VoidStalker So will I still be able to join IRC rooms through appservice, or will it fail?
15:48 pjals wdym
15:48 VoidStalker By using the !join command
15:49 pjals i normally just use /join #room:libera.chat
15:49 pjals but yea, i guess
15:49 VoidStalker pjals: But isn't it breaking?
15:49 pjals uhhh.. no?
15:50 VoidStalker <triallax[m]> "https://libera.chat/news/matrix..." <- This?
15:50 VoidStalker Also I just realised this is the wrong room to be discussing this in. We should be in #libera-matrix.
15:50 pjals indeed
15:53 VoidStalker I apologize, everyone.
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16:15 dibesfer[m] Void abyssary
16:15 dibesfer[m] Fav pet in wow
16:15 dibesfer[m] I was warlock, and i wanted to be mage
16:15 dibesfer[m] Skyrim best branch skill abbility
16:16 dibesfer[m] * It was warlock's, and i wanted to be mage
16:16 dibesfer[m] * Skyrim best branched skill trees
16:17 pjals what
16:17 MTDiscord <luatic> this is not an offtopic channel dibesfer
16:29 dibesfer[m] Mapgen is a mc thing, you cant just copy it and be more original than them
16:30 dibesfer[m] Cuz thats theirs thing, and they mapgen nicely
16:32 Blockhead256[m] there are a lot of voxel map generators nowadays that are better than what Minecraft has built in. Ones that work at a more realistic scale. Ones that produce rivers that flow downhill and some that have a proper continent structure instead of a mess of land and sea as random blobs
16:33 dibesfer[m] Not v7 for sure
16:33 dibesfer[m] Theyre announced as super unstables
16:33 dibesfer[m] Also
16:33 Blockhead256[m] sure, v7 is probably worse than MC
16:34 Blockhead256[m] I like carpathian personally
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16:50 dibesfer[m] A mapgen is not a gaaame
16:50 triallax[m] /part
16:50 triallax[m] Whoops.
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16:52 mrkubax10 command failure moment
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16:57 Sokomine Blockhead256[m]: if there are too many packages for the line then the protocol doesn't really matter that much. don't know about rudp; if it is reliable, all it can do is catch up when there's less traffic...
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17:02 Sokomine dibesfer[m]: there are a lot of very diffrent and intresting mapgens out there. one server even used a fractal mapgen. i still like v6 most
17:12 dibesfer[m] The code in the mapgen.lua
17:12 dibesfer[m] Its spageti
17:12 dibesfer[m] If i have an idea
17:13 dibesfer[m] I dunno how to configure it for mapgening
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17:14 dibesfer[m] I dont need to
17:14 dibesfer[m] Its a static map
17:16 dibesfer[m] Backrooms test is a mapgen of rooms?
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17:35 dibesfer[m] Mapgen fakes world discovery surprising mood, cool for survival
17:35 dibesfer[m] Then, some game designers have the clear design for a finite experience
17:36 dibesfer[m] Kids need platformers too
17:43 dibesfer[m] Roblox metaverse is cool, but adful
17:44 dibesfer[m] Server travel
17:44 pjals what the hell are you talking about
17:44 dibesfer[m] I connected all my games there
17:44 uyku dibesfer[m]: and who are you talking to
17:44 dibesfer[m] Abstracting
17:45 dibesfer[m] To mt creators
17:45 dibesfer[m] R u?
17:45 pjals what???
17:45 ROllerozxa please stop using this IRC channel as an output for your stream of consciousness
17:46 dibesfer[m] Are you cutting my stream of consciousness????
17:46 dibesfer[m] Xdd
17:46 dibesfer[m] With or without you 🦋🌞
17:46 dibesfer[m] 🎆🎉🎊
17:52 dibesfer[m] Nono, with you 🥰 sowy
17:52 dibesfer[m] You are VOXELMANIPulator 🤩
17:54 pjals please stop using this IRC channel as an output for your stream of consciousness
17:54 pjals this is just spamming and these sentences are barely coherent
17:56 dibesfer[m] Rollerozxa - Build a Game game is pretty much what i think should be the "default" for game developers
17:56 dibesfer[m] For players: games
18:01 pjals why should there be a distinction between game developers and players
18:01 pjals also, please stop
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18:06 Darckangelsama[m Good afternoon!... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/b805e8c93ea64cd5224de8635097fb8bf3fa5452>)
18:10 rubenwardy "Good afternoon! I have a problem, my two servers do not connect on the server list, name joseworld and bigworld
18:10 rubenwardy Address: biglinux-minetest.ddns.net,    Bigworld :30000,  Joseworld :30002
18:10 rubenwardy I've already checked everything here and it's ok, the problem is in some blockage in the server list, Note I've been through this before"
18:10 rubenwardy wish the bridge would just send that
18:13 Darckangelsama[m rubenwardy: need something else to check the connection?
18:13 rubenwardy no
18:13 rubenwardy maybe the source ip address, but should be able to get that from the domain
18:13 rubenwardy !up biglinux-minetest.ddns.net:30000
18:13 MinetestBot biglinux-minetest.ddns.net:30000 seems to be down (IPv4)
18:13 rubenwardy !up biglinux-minetest.ddns.net:30002
18:13 MinetestBot biglinux-minetest.ddns.net:30002 seems to be down (IPv4)
18:13 rubenwardy both servers are down
18:14 rubenwardy if they're not down, make sure you've opened the firewall and the DNS is correct
18:15 Darckangelsama[m 189.79.121.133
18:15 Darckangelsama[m ok an moment
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18:41 Darckangelsama[m ready! I checked everything here again, it appears correct, take a look at the joseworld server, it is open now
18:43 Darckangelsama[m 👀
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18:59 Darckangelsama[m > biglinux-minetest.ddns.net:30000 seems to be down (IPv4)
18:59 Darckangelsama[m ipv4 is ok 192.168.15.5
18:59 pjals thats in your local network
19:12 wsor !up test.com:30000
19:12 MinetestBot test.com:30000 seems to be down (IPv4)
19:13 wsor ah, different bot than shadowbot
19:18 Darckangelsama[m <MinetestBot> "test.com:30000 seems to be down..." <- ipv4 is enabled
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