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ball |
For wheat, is 8 ripe? |
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ball |
I'll watch it for a while and see what happens... |
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muurkha |
yes, 8 is ripe |
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ball |
Thanks muurkha |
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muurkha |
sure |
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imi |
can I convert an ItemStack to "default:gold ingot 9" ? |
| 07:06 |
calcul0n |
imi, i think item_stack:to_string() will do |
| 07:06 |
imi |
ok thanks |
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imi |
https://minetest.gitlab.io/minetest/class-reference/#methods_2 -- is this up-to-date? safe to use? |
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Guest40 |
hi |
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Guest40 |
how do i make a server? |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> https://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server |
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s20 |
Hallo. I am just testing HexChat |
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MTDiscord |
<s20> :D |
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s20 |
It works |
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s20 |
Oh. So it takes the user icon if the name matches their discord username/nick? |
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Thresher |
yes |
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| 14:27 |
ball |
My son needs a Minetest update. |
| 14:27 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> https://www.minetest.net/downloads |
| 14:31 |
ball |
Thanks, almost got it from the wrong place. |
| 14:32 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> where were you getting it from? |
| 14:33 |
ball |
Well the one he has now came through (the repositories associated with?) his Linux distribution. |
| 14:34 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> is it minetest/minetest? |
| 14:34 |
ball |
For the update I was looking at minetest.org but that seemed odd. |
| 14:34 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> thats the official repository |
| 14:34 |
ball |
minetest.net looks better. |
| 14:34 |
ROllerozxa |
minetest.org is not official, you should *not* download from there |
| 14:34 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> iirc, minetest.org was made by a bad community member (the site may log your ip and such) |
| 14:35 |
ball |
Now I'm trying to figure out what Debian his Raspberry Pi OS is made from |
| 14:35 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18946 |
| 14:36 |
Blockhead256[m] |
minetest.org "final Minetest" |
| 14:36 |
Blockhead256[m] |
is Minetest done? no? that's right |
| 14:36 |
Blockhead256[m] |
so why would you want the "final" version? |
| 14:36 |
Blockhead256[m] |
there, debunked with FACTS and LOGIC |
| 14:36 |
Blockhead256[m] |
(big /silly in case anyone is wondering) |
| 14:36 |
ball |
Blockhead256[m]: It did look suspicious. |
| 14:37 |
ROllerozxa |
I don't know whether the final minetest binaries are malicious in themselves, but I would definitively not want to use them (it's a fork of an old 0.4 version) |
| 14:37 |
ball |
Hang on, let me check in #raspberrypi for his OS |
| 14:37 |
ROllerozxa |
if you are on a stability by obsolesence distro there are a number of ways to obtain a newer version of minetest. the easiest might actually be to compile from source, but you can also fiddle with PPAs or flatpak |
| 14:37 |
ball |
I have Minetest 5.4.1 on my own computer. |
| 14:37 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> old minetest distro < malicious minetest distro |
| 14:37 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> ^ (joke) |
| 14:37 |
ROllerozxa |
minetest 5.7.0 is the latest |
| 14:38 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> the latest minetest version is 5.7.0 |
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potatoxel[m] |
tomatotest c: |
| 14:38 |
Blockhead256[m] |
OldCoder sucks, but I wouldn't say the software is malicious. Just the intent to divide by forking with it. |
| 14:38 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> sussycraft 😳 |
| 14:38 |
Blockhead256[m] |
even Multicraft is dropping 0.4 |
| 14:38 |
ROllerozxa |
good riddance for 0.4 |
| 14:39 |
ROllerozxa |
it's like those freaks who are still on windows 7 |
| 14:39 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> i mean... its not that bad |
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* Blockhead256[m] |
whistles innocently |
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* Blockhead256[m] |
It's okay, it only gets booted a few times per year |
| 14:40 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> minetest 5.8.0: we are dropping support for windows |
| 14:40 |
ball |
Looks like I might be able to get him 5.3.0 |
| 14:40 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> why not 5.7? |
| 14:40 |
ROllerozxa |
just compile from source |
| 14:40 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> he is using raspberry pi |
| 14:40 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> there are compiling scripts all over the forums and readmes, copy one |
| 14:41 |
ROllerozxa |
and? I've compiled minetest from source on my pi too |
| 14:41 |
ROllerozxa |
it can just take a while |
| 14:41 |
ROllerozxa |
read a book or go for a walk or something |
| 14:41 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> so its easier to compile on than windows |
| 14:42 |
ROllerozxa |
btw re: windows 7, did the windows explorer image preview RCE ever get patched |
| 14:42 |
ROllerozxa |
I don't think it did, considering news about it came out after EOL |
| 14:42 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> speaking of explorer... |
| 14:42 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> microsoft was talking about adding ads to it earlier |
| 14:42 |
ROllerozxa |
LOL |
| 14:42 |
ROllerozxa |
doesn't windows already have ads crammed everywhere now? |
| 14:43 |
Desour |
see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/compiling/linux.md for compilation instructions |
| 14:43 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> only in the start menu |
| 14:43 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> i dont get any ads (windows 11) because im using an oprekin distro |
| 14:44 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> oprekin rips all of the bloat out of windows (and then some) and gives away the final iso |
| 14:44 |
ball |
I built mine from source but pkgsrc isn't all that up to date. |
| 14:44 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> sudo apt update |
| 14:44 |
ball |
On his I should be able to use a binary package |
| 14:44 |
ROllerozxa |
Thresher: that won't work when the official repos contain old versions |
| 14:45 |
MTDiscord |
<Thresher> 😠 |
| 14:45 |
ROllerozxa |
(`sudo apt update` doesn't do anything in itself either, only updates the database, `sudo apt upgrade` installs the updated packages) |
| 14:47 |
* ball |
sighs |
| 14:47 |
ball |
Linux am hard. |
| 14:48 |
ball |
I seem to be doing it wrong. |
| 14:49 |
ball |
He has "Raspbian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)" |
| 14:51 |
Blockhead256[m] |
especially given raspberry pi is on an non-x86 architecture (Arm wasn't it?), the LuaJIT version included with Debian 10 (upon which Raspbian is built) may be too old to nicely run, so that leads to compiling LuaJIT from source too |
| 14:51 |
Blockhead256[m] |
it's not that fun, especially on a slow CPU with a slow SD card |
| 14:52 |
ball |
I wouldn't be surprised if this were 32-bit. Raspberry Pi clung to that for a while even after their machines had arm64 cores. |
| 14:52 |
Blockhead256[m] |
for performance LuaJIT is always better, but the builtin PUC Lua will work too.. |
| 14:52 |
ROllerozxa |
raspbian 64-bit is still in beta I believe, so unless you went out of your way to install it you'll be on 32-bit |
| 14:53 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> hopefully the LuaJIT remake project will go somewhere, it's pretty impressive so far |
| 14:57 |
ball |
/proc/cpuinfo reports ARMv7, so that'll be 32-bit. Pretty sure it's actually a 64-bit chip though. |
| 14:58 |
ball |
(though with 4 GB RAM, that might be academic) |
| 14:59 |
ball |
Oooh, I think I found it! |
| 15:09 |
* ball |
sighs |
| 15:10 |
ball |
I don't know how to deb and the package manager just offers me 0.4.17.1 |
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Krock |
debian packages can be ancient. you're best off by either using backports, compiling it yourself or make a debian frankenstein by using PPAs for the ubuntu version that matches best |
| 15:19 |
ball |
That would be great if I knew what it meant. |
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ball |
I found a .deb by following links from minetest.net and Debian but I don't know how to get it installed. |
| 15:21 |
ingar |
I got around 20fps on an rpi4 |
| 15:21 |
ball |
ingar: That's probably more than I get on mine. |
| 15:21 |
ball |
(my desktop computer) |
| 15:24 |
Blockhead256[m] |
`sudo dpkg -i filename.deb` |
| 15:24 |
Blockhead256[m] |
then it will complain if you don't have the dependencies |
| 15:24 |
ball |
Thanks |
| 15:26 |
ball |
Looks like five libraries missing. |
| 15:26 |
ball |
Sorry, four libraries and minetest-data |
| 15:29 |
ball |
Let me look for those... |
| 15:32 |
ball |
It works! |
| 15:32 |
ball |
Minetest 5.3.0 |
| 15:32 |
ball |
Thank you! |
| 15:34 |
ball |
Mine is newer ;-) |
| 15:37 |
ball |
We're in the same world!! |
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ball |
My son *loves* the recipe book. |
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Niklp |
!seen Wuzzy |
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MinetestBot |
Niklp: wuzzy was last seen at 2023-05-12 13:14:09 UTC on #minetest |
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Peter_Lankton |
can item aliases be changed while the game is running or can they only be registered at startup? |
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Krock |
latter |
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Peter_Lankton |
got it. thx! |
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