Time Nick Message 01:24 ball For wheat, is 8 ripe? 02:02 ball I'll watch it for a while and see what happens... 02:29 muurkha yes, 8 is ripe 03:11 ball Thanks muurkha 04:08 muurkha sure 07:02 imi can I convert an ItemStack to "default:gold ingot 9" ? 07:06 calcul0n imi, i think item_stack:to_string() will do 07:06 imi ok thanks 07:06 imi https://minetest.gitlab.io/minetest/class-reference/#methods_2 -- is this up-to-date? safe to use? 08:32 Guest40 hi 08:33 Guest40 how do i make a server? 08:35 MTDiscord https://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server 08:57 s20 Hallo. I am just testing HexChat 08:58 MTDiscord :D 08:58 s20 It works 08:58 s20 Oh. So it takes the user icon if the name matches their discord username/nick? 12:43 Thresher yes 14:27 ball My son needs a Minetest update. 14:27 MTDiscord https://www.minetest.net/downloads 14:31 ball Thanks, almost got it from the wrong place. 14:32 MTDiscord where were you getting it from? 14:33 ball Well the one he has now came through (the repositories associated with?) his Linux distribution. 14:34 MTDiscord is it minetest/minetest? 14:34 ball For the update I was looking at minetest.org but that seemed odd. 14:34 MTDiscord thats the official repository 14:34 ball minetest.net looks better. 14:34 ROllerozxa minetest.org is not official, you should *not* download from there 14:34 MTDiscord iirc, minetest.org was made by a bad community member (the site may log your ip and such) 14:35 ball Now I'm trying to figure out what Debian his Raspberry Pi OS is made from 14:35 MTDiscord https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18946 14:36 Blockhead256[m] minetest.org "final Minetest" 14:36 Blockhead256[m] is Minetest done? no? that's right 14:36 Blockhead256[m] so why would you want the "final" version? 14:36 Blockhead256[m] there, debunked with FACTS and LOGIC 14:36 Blockhead256[m] (big /silly in case anyone is wondering) 14:36 ball Blockhead256[m]: It did look suspicious. 14:37 ROllerozxa I don't know whether the final minetest binaries are malicious in themselves, but I would definitively not want to use them (it's a fork of an old 0.4 version) 14:37 ball Hang on, let me check in #raspberrypi for his OS 14:37 ROllerozxa if you are on a stability by obsolesence distro there are a number of ways to obtain a newer version of minetest. the easiest might actually be to compile from source, but you can also fiddle with PPAs or flatpak 14:37 ball I have Minetest 5.4.1 on my own computer. 14:37 MTDiscord old minetest distro < malicious minetest distro 14:37 MTDiscord ^ (joke) 14:37 ROllerozxa minetest 5.7.0 is the latest 14:38 MTDiscord the latest minetest version is 5.7.0 14:38 potatoxel[m] tomatotest c: 14:38 Blockhead256[m] OldCoder sucks, but I wouldn't say the software is malicious. Just the intent to divide by forking with it. 14:38 MTDiscord sussycraft 😳 14:38 Blockhead256[m] even Multicraft is dropping 0.4 14:38 ROllerozxa good riddance for 0.4 14:39 ROllerozxa it's like those freaks who are still on windows 7 14:39 MTDiscord i mean... its not that bad 14:39 * Blockhead256[m] whistles innocently 14:39 * Blockhead256[m] It's okay, it only gets booted a few times per year 14:40 MTDiscord minetest 5.8.0: we are dropping support for windows 14:40 ball Looks like I might be able to get him 5.3.0 14:40 MTDiscord why not 5.7? 14:40 ROllerozxa just compile from source 14:40 MTDiscord he is using raspberry pi 14:40 MTDiscord there are compiling scripts all over the forums and readmes, copy one 14:41 ROllerozxa and? I've compiled minetest from source on my pi too 14:41 ROllerozxa it can just take a while 14:41 ROllerozxa read a book or go for a walk or something 14:41 MTDiscord so its easier to compile on than windows 14:42 ROllerozxa btw re: windows 7, did the windows explorer image preview RCE ever get patched 14:42 ROllerozxa I don't think it did, considering news about it came out after EOL 14:42 MTDiscord speaking of explorer... 14:42 MTDiscord microsoft was talking about adding ads to it earlier 14:42 ROllerozxa LOL 14:42 ROllerozxa doesn't windows already have ads crammed everywhere now? 14:43 Desour see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/compiling/linux.md for compilation instructions 14:43 MTDiscord only in the start menu 14:43 MTDiscord i dont get any ads (windows 11) because im using an oprekin distro 14:44 MTDiscord oprekin rips all of the bloat out of windows (and then some) and gives away the final iso 14:44 ball I built mine from source but pkgsrc isn't all that up to date. 14:44 MTDiscord sudo apt update 14:44 ball On his I should be able to use a binary package 14:44 ROllerozxa Thresher: that won't work when the official repos contain old versions 14:45 MTDiscord 😠 14:45 ROllerozxa (`sudo apt update` doesn't do anything in itself either, only updates the database, `sudo apt upgrade` installs the updated packages) 14:47 * ball sighs 14:47 ball Linux am hard. 14:48 ball I seem to be doing it wrong. 14:49 ball He has "Raspbian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)" 14:51 Blockhead256[m] especially given raspberry pi is on an non-x86 architecture (Arm wasn't it?), the LuaJIT version included with Debian 10 (upon which Raspbian is built) may be too old to nicely run, so that leads to compiling LuaJIT from source too 14:51 Blockhead256[m] it's not that fun, especially on a slow CPU with a slow SD card 14:52 ball I wouldn't be surprised if this were 32-bit. Raspberry Pi clung to that for a while even after their machines had arm64 cores. 14:52 Blockhead256[m] for performance LuaJIT is always better, but the builtin PUC Lua will work too.. 14:52 ROllerozxa raspbian 64-bit is still in beta I believe, so unless you went out of your way to install it you'll be on 32-bit 14:53 MTDiscord hopefully the LuaJIT remake project will go somewhere, it's pretty impressive so far 14:57 ball /proc/cpuinfo reports ARMv7, so that'll be 32-bit. Pretty sure it's actually a 64-bit chip though. 14:58 ball (though with 4 GB RAM, that might be academic) 14:59 ball Oooh, I think I found it! 15:09 * ball sighs 15:10 ball I don't know how to deb and the package manager just offers me 0.4.17.1 15:18 Krock debian packages can be ancient. you're best off by either using backports, compiling it yourself or make a debian frankenstein by using PPAs for the ubuntu version that matches best 15:19 ball That would be great if I knew what it meant. 15:20 ball I found a .deb by following links from minetest.net and Debian but I don't know how to get it installed. 15:21 ingar I got around 20fps on an rpi4 15:21 ball ingar: That's probably more than I get on mine. 15:21 ball (my desktop computer) 15:24 Blockhead256[m] `sudo dpkg -i filename.deb` 15:24 Blockhead256[m] then it will complain if you don't have the dependencies 15:24 ball Thanks 15:26 ball Looks like five libraries missing. 15:26 ball Sorry, four libraries and minetest-data 15:29 ball Let me look for those... 15:32 ball It works! 15:32 ball Minetest 5.3.0 15:32 ball Thank you! 15:34 ball Mine is newer ;-) 15:37 ball We're in the same world!! 15:55 ball My son *loves* the recipe book. 16:15 Niklp !seen Wuzzy 16:15 MinetestBot Niklp: wuzzy was last seen at 2023-05-12 13:14:09 UTC on #minetest 18:25 Peter_Lankton can item aliases be changed while the game is running or can they only be registered at startup? 18:26 Krock latter 18:33 Peter_Lankton got it. thx!