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IRC log for #minetest, 2023-03-30

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02:22 Blockhead256[m] flux: that's a source of endless debate. Basically a lot of programmers like it in .txt, it's not actually usually a perfect markdown formatted file, and you can change the extension yourself if you like
02:23 Blockhead256[m] there are editors with WYSIWYG/preview markdown editing and tools like pandoc to render markdowns on your own systems
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04:21 MTDiscord <Bastrabun> Can't we have both?
04:21 MTDiscord <Jonathon> yeah, you make it a markdown file, then you can append ?plain or something to the end of the url
04:23 MTDiscord <Jonathon> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.md?plain=1 for example
04:23 MTDiscord <Jonathon> then allows you to link lines like so https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.md?plain=1#L58
04:23 MTDiscord <Jonathon> relevant pr https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/12449
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10:19 MTDiscord <Bastrabun> I tried to build with luajit again. However I try, it doesn't work. Here's the smallest repro I could come up with: https://pastebin.com/A0Jb3t0Z Could anyone please take a look and say where I am dumb?
10:35 sfan5 you say you didn't install luajit but there's "libluajit-5.1-dev" in your apt line
10:36 MTDiscord <Bastrabun> Yes, that's the item I deleted from that line
10:36 sfan5 plus if you link with a .so file it will (as always) start looking in /usr/lib, /usr/lib64 or whatever else
10:36 sfan5 so it won't find the one in /home/vboxuser/5.7.0/LuaJIT/src/
10:37 sfan5 not at runtime that is, it will compile fine
10:37 MTDiscord <Bastrabun> I tried linkling with the .a file, but then I got the "thing is old" warning
10:39 sfan5 that might be an edge case with the symbol detection, not sure
10:42 MTDiscord <Bastrabun> If I compile with -DLUA_LIBRARY="/home/vboxuser/5.7.0/LuaJIT/src/libluajit.a" the ldd doesn't show luajit at all
10:42 MTDiscord <Bastrabun> while cmake says: -- Found LuaJIT: /home/vboxuser/5.7.0/LuaJIT/src/libluajit.a
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11:10 sfan5 it's working correctly then
11:13 MTDiscord <Bastrabun> Despite ldd not showing luajit it is correct?
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11:20 MTDiscord <Bastrabun> I added worldedit, startet a game and did //lua core.chat_send_all(dump(jit)) and it shows, among other values, version = "LuaJIT 2.1.0-beta3" I'm pretty confused now ...
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11:54 sfan5 ldd shows dynamically loaded libraries, .a is a static library
11:55 sfan5 "LuaJIT 2.1.0-beta3" has been the name of the latest development state for years
11:55 sfan5 you can't tell the 2.1.0-beta3 release apart from a git clone that way
11:55 sfan5 (yes, that's stupid)
12:12 MTDiscord <Niklp> you can change "-beta3" to "-beta4" or something else
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12:30 Blockhead256[m] ..which is something that LuaJIT itself should have done a while ago. Or just admit to moving to something like rolling release. LuaJIT is kinda neglected honestly :(
12:45 MTDiscord <Bastrabun> Is there maybe a more modern fork? From first glance, a lot of people forked, but none is considered "new canon" ?
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13:30 MTDiscord <Niklp> try openresty's LJ https://github.com/openresty/luajit2
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13:38 sfan5 i think mike pall once indicated that he hasn't favorable toward the openresty fork
13:38 sfan5 moonjit died
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13:38 sfan5 really upstream luajit is good, the author just thinks version numbers are nonsense
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13:49 LonelyMusicDisc Do they not worry about errors and instability? That's some confidence right there.
13:53 LonelyMusicDisc Nevermind, upstream means something else
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16:21 MinetestBot [git] lhofhansl -> minetest/minetest: Restart map-send cycle if visible blocks are soon to be unloaded. (#1… 48fc286 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/48fc286a9500abfbd6c05f2002d73cc8ba57eebb (2023-03-30T16:19:13Z)
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