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Blockhead256[m] |
ipv6 is a real issue and I'm not blaming the Minetest devs necessarily, but at one point I had to factory reset my home router to un-bork its IPv6 and be able to connect to my server |
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Guest54 |
> not blaming the Minetest devs |
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Guest54 |
ha, we all know minetest devs are at fault for developing ipv6 in the first place! |
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Blockhead256[m] |
well my ISP deserves no sympathy for crappy router either |
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appguru |
celeron55: I'd like to become a helper on the Minetest Forums (I'm LMD: https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&un=LMD). There are now 4 pages of topic move requests for mods. LRV / Mooncarguy who was originally made a helper (to alleviate this IIRC?) seems to have since become inactive (see https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=20302). |
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sfan5 |
@Warr1024 ipv6_server = true will listen on both AFs |
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sfan5 |
but if you set that you need to make sure v6 does work or the serverlist rejects you |
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sfan5 |
Blockhead256[m]: you can blame us for not implementing ipv6 happy eyeballs or any fallback mechanism at all |
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celeron55 |
appguru: you are now. let me know if you'd like to have helper as the main group which would change the color of your name |
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appguru |
celeron55: thanks, not necessary |
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appguru |
celeron55: thanks, not necessary |
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appguru |
my thunderbird seems to have broken, oof |
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appguru |
celeron55: BTW, now that we have ContentDB, I'd count CDB links as download links and not mandate a direct link to a .zip in the mod post. Thoughts? |
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appguru |
hmm, looks like I can't move stuff to "Old Games" |
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celeron55 |
eh i'll just make you a moderator instead |
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MTDiscord |
<Bastrabun> When trying to compile MT not with the system's luajit, but one I provide myself via LUA_INCLUDE_DIR and LUA_LIBRARY, cmake correctly says "Found LuaJIT: /home/myuser/temp/luajittest/LuaJIT/src/libluajit.a". But the very next line it claims "Using LuaJIT provided by system." How can I prove I am using the one "found" in the path I provided, not the one "provided by system"? |
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sfan5 |
locate the link.txt and check what it references |
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sfan5 |
I suspect the cmake message is just misleading |
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MTDiscord |
<Bastrabun> Ok, thanks. In that file there's /home/myuser/temp/luajittest/LuaJIT/src/libluajit.a so I should be good. Any way to prove it from ingame? |
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sfan5 |
no |
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MTDiscord |
<Bastrabun> Unfortunate, but so be it. Thanks! |
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MTDiscord |
<Niklp> Yes, the cmake message is half-wrong |
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fluxionary_ |
Bastrabun: if the version number of the system luajit is different than the one you're trying to link against, you should be able to check that |
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MTDiscord |
<Bastrabun> Unfortunately both say 2.1-beta3 |
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fluxionary_ |
Bastrabun: try `ldd bin/minetest|grep luajit` |
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MTDiscord2 |
<Bastrabun> When I cmake this is what I get: You are using a relatively old version of LuaJIT. We recommend running a recent version (from git) as older ones are known not to build/work correctly in all cases. |
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MTDiscord2 |
<Bastrabun> When I then run the command suggested by flux it points to the system luajit |
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sfan5 |
it shouldn't |
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sfan5 |
but MT also can't link to both the system one and the libluajit.a you provided, so no idea |
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MTDiscord |
<Bastrabun> The order of those parameters is not important, right? |
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sfan5 |
which ones? |
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MTDiscord |
<Bastrabun> DLUA_LIBRARY, DLUA_INCLUDE_DIR and DENABLE_LUAJIT |
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sfan5 |
no |
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independent56 |
Hi. I have a docker image with Minetest running. It says it is listening on port 0.0.0.0:30000, but then my client times out when attempting to connect to 127.0.0.1:30000 despite te docker image being local. Even when i connect to what ip addr shows as a docker address, it times out |
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independent56 |
It says like "net 172.17.0.1/16" and then i connect to that and it times out |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Did you map the port in your container to a port on the host machine? |
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independent56 |
ocker run --rm -p 30000:30000 -v /home/independent56/world:/world -v /home/independent56/logs:/log minetest |
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independent56 |
That's the command, and it does work |
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independent56 |
It runs the image perfectly but the port does not work |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> That -p might be assuming TCP |
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independent56 |
hmmm... EXPOSE 30000-31000/tcp is inside the dockerfile also |
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independent56 |
I'll go ask ChatGPT how to -p with UDP. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> The expose doesn't actually DO anything. |
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independent56 |
So it's like a python docstring |
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independent56 |
It does DO things, but not anything practical on the computer level, just human level |
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independent56 |
And now it finally gives the error i CAN fix "name not registered" when i use -p 30000:30000/udp as per ChatGPT's advice |
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* independent56 |
experiences naeusa from lack of recent minetest experience |
| 18:27 |
independent56 |
And now for a problem ChatGPT cannot solve. I am using CMD ["/opt/minetest/bin/minetestserver", "--world", "/world", "--port", "30000"] to run minetest. I am using -v ~/world:/world/ to create a bind mount to my home dir/world. However, i cannot see any data in ~/world. Also, the world is a new one whenever i start the docker container |
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independent56 |
Which means data is not being preserved |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> hmm, weird. I assume --world means world path and not world name ... I've generally only used world name and not path. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> When you're using bind mounts with docker, keep in mind that user ID and permissions are preserved, so if you created the world dir as user 1000 but the process inside the container is running as e.g. 1001, then it probably won't actually have permission to write to the world. |
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independent56 |
i'll fix it |
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independent56 |
I ran chmod o+w world in my home directory. However, the docker still does not write to it |
| 18:37 |
independent56 |
Minetest also says "ACTION[Main]: World at ['/world']" |
| 18:37 |
independent56 |
And i'm using "--world", "/world" and the new flag -v /home/independent56/world:/world/ to publish a world at ~/world |
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kilbith |
user loss of interest: https://i.imgur.com/c6uPJk6.png |
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Desour |
weekend spike? |
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kilbith |
no, the download rate have collapsed (3x less) since the start of the feature freeze (coincidence?); I'm checking daily |
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Desour |
oh, I though the "(1 week)" means the time-span is 1 week. the feature freeze is already there for >1 week |
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rubenwardy |
It's the change in average score since a week ago |
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Desour |
it would be funny if mods get fewer downloads before a release because users fear that the new mod version will use new engine features and become incompatible |
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kilbith |
yes and I can see a durable loss of interest this month |
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rubenwardy |
no, total scroe |
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rubenwardy |
huh |
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rubenwardy |
thought it was average |
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rubenwardy |
delta(contentdb_score[7d]) |
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kilbith |
you better release something impressive quick |
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rubenwardy |
probably doesn't help that the android app is suspended |
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Desour |
rubenwardy: why does the avg package score have a sawtooth shape? are packages somehow building up score over a day? |
| 19:19 |
rubenwardy |
yes, they get points from downloads and then lose 5% each day |
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rubenwardy |
see https://content.minetest.net/help/top_packages/ |
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Desour |
👀 |
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independent56 |
Fixed it! |
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independent56 |
Turns out worldname allows me to make a world called "world" |
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independent56 |
By changing the bind mount to go to container "/opt/minetest/worlds/world", i can now persist data |
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independent56 |
It's a hack, but if it works it works |
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kilbith |
I especially think that a lengthy feature freeze knocks out people's motivation to contribute |
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kilbith |
should be parallelized to another branch |
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kilbith |
you are killing the emulation |
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independent56 |
What feature freeze? |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> minetest 5.7.0 feature freeze |
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independent56 |
How did i not hear about this? Where can i learn more? |
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Desour |
independent56: i.e. here: https://dev.minetest.net/Git_Guidelines#Upstream_branch_rules |
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independent56 |
Sk nobody made an extra branch so nobody can contribute? |
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independent56 |
Shocking |
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Desour |
see also #13285 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13285 -- 🧊 Feature freeze time |
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Desour |
you can still contribute. the merge will just be delayed |
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kilbith |
master should never be freezed, that's the point |
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independent56 |
Oh so now people should wait until 5.8 for their features to be published? |
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cafblx |
I know some of you aren't on Discord, and I'm having issues with reading map blocks, so I'm cross-posting here: https://dpaste.com/8HWRDZ3NA |
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Desour |
cafblx: you can compare your code (and its output) with the engine. ppl won't be able to help you anyway if you don't show them your code |
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Desour |
besides that, note that node data is not compressed in your mapblock version |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Update credits tab and mailmap 0a698d9 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/0a698d92c3dc94057af9c4b83712593cf66c10eb (2023-03-29T21:19:11Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Bump protocol version bd88d29 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/bd88d299b9159acbbf7d9d1df6d4f5487653a863 (2023-03-29T21:19:39Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] x2048 -> minetest/minetest: Return 'loops' occlusion culler under a setting (#13352) 9389895 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/93898957b6c5862c6db0fa2555eaa5d3a0070e12 (2023-03-29T22:10:23Z) |
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fluxionary_ |
is there any reason why the lua api doc is .txt and not .md? i guess probably because that's where people and things expect it to be, and changing it would cause problems? |
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fluxionary_ |
would be nice if github would show the styled version |
