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00:00 Wuzzy i tried default settings as well
00:00 Wuzzy sometimes the memory fills within minutes when i fly (and generate many mapchunks)
00:00 muurkha :(
00:01 Wuzzy are there any settings thtat could help me? or does minetest suffer from a gigantic memory leak somehow?
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01:52 MTDiscord <Benrob> Wuzzy: MT will leak memory between sessions if you don't restart MT between them.
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01:53 MTDiscord <Benrob> I'm not sure if that's the culprit, but that's a pretty common one
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04:06 Blockhead256[m] about 4K: Even if it's not playable with the right render distance in some circumstance, it's a great quality improvement for screenshots even if downscaling back to 1080. You don't need anti-aliasing enabled at 4K even if you usually like it on at 1080. When you want to take a screenshot of a very large render distance, using 4K allows you to get more than about 3 pixels of information on the nodes in the distance. Try upping your
04:06 Blockhead256[m] monitor's resolution with xrandr/Windows driver "virtual super resolution" and notice the results :)
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06:29 lissobone
06:58 MTDiscord <Flamore> true...
06:59 MTDiscord <kimapr> : ""
07:19 lissobone : ": """
07:26 MTDiscord <kimapr> (x) = ": "x""
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07:46 grouinos hello, how can i make a server with minetest please
08:07 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> grouinos: https://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server
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09:15 grouinos don't work
09:17 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> well then that's unfortunate
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09:27 comrad with that elaborate error message there is probably nothing left we can do
09:56 lissobone grouinos: Maybe you have to configure port forwarding for the server to be available from the outside.
09:59 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Don't use Hamachi oh my God I know where this is going
10:00 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> I can't delete my text in irc, by saying no, I've already set in motion the events. So sad
10:09 lissobone jordan4ibanez: Are you sure this is sad?
10:11 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> who is hamachi
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10:50 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> No more of pathetic that Hamachi still exists
10:51 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Hamachi is uh, Hamachi is. Hm. Allows you to create virtual networks when you can't port forward
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11:18 grouinos lissobone, done
11:19 lissobone grouinos: did you configure port forwarding on your router?
11:20 lissobone This way, once someone sends a request to a certain port/port range on your router IP, it will be redirected to a specific ip and port on the local network.
11:20 lissobone Once port forwarding is established, any server on that port will be available to the public.
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14:03 mazes_83 5.7.0: Rotating entity selection boxes: nice, how to use ?
14:09 Desour !api
14:09 MinetestBot Someone thinks you should read the API docs, please go to: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
14:34 mazes_83 thx, it's already in doc
14:34 mazes_83 so rotate = true in selection box
14:35 Desour yes. all changes are immediately added to docs when they're implemented
14:35 Desour just out of interest, did you now take so long to search through the docs, or did you do something else?
14:36 mazes_83 I just hid my irc to play minetest
14:36 Desour ah, ok
14:37 mazes_83 after getting reply it was just a matter of seconds hopefully
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15:25 MinetestBot [git] rollerozxa -> minetest/minetest: Translated using Weblate (Swedish) 36c5ea2 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/36c5ea2d5d09069b0098b2fca29add493546598e (2023-03-09T14:31:35Z)
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15:54 kilbith jag elskar dig
15:58 lissobone NRO ESN AFSPC NIMA Domestic security Weapons cache PPP SRI CCS rail gun DITSA Bust NOCS Cap-Stun Afghanistan
15:58 lissobone Minox CFC Burst First responder NATOA assassination EADA Archives Ecoterrorism unclassified Breach bootleg insurgency CBOT PRIME
16:00 Desour assuming both were cats, I'd like to assure to lissobone's one that I will never refuse to pet it when requested
16:22 lissobone Small Pox PRIME Environmental terrorist lynch Smallpox grom al-Qa'ida Arnett Airport DES Antiviral primacord SURVIAC wire transfer Secret Service
16:22 lissobone
16:29 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Did lissobone get hacked and is now controlled by a bot trying to get them on every watchlist possible?
16:31 lissobone Warr1024: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Hacker
16:32 MTDiscord <Warr1024> The origin of "hacker" I learned was "somebody who solves problems in a clever and unconventional manner", from the model train community. The "playful" part though is new to me...
16:33 lissobone Hackers may approach differently to solving problems in a clever manner. Some may be playful, some may be serious.
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16:50 Noisytoot lissobone just likes to spam stuff from Emacs (that was M-x spook, they also do M-x doctor)
16:51 lissobone I am not plural.
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17:07 Desour "The term WC has been suggested for a computer running Windows."
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17:10 muurkha I would say that if you aren't feeling playful you aren't hacking
17:13 lissobone Desour: I use terms "Losedows" and "WC" on a daily basis.
17:14 lissobone I also use Trisquel as my operating system.
17:14 lissobone And I am writing this from GNU Emacs.
17:18 Desour I've read your message from an application running under an X.Org server
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17:27 lissobone Hmm, that's good.
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17:49 mrkubax10 I read that from irssi
17:49 mrkubax10 running inside urxvt
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18:59 lynx Hi, just a quick question: trying to build MT seem to have older IrrlichtMT version, how do I update it using git?
18:59 MTDiscord <Flamore> i don't know
19:00 lynx Sorry for Ping
19:00 lynx Didn't mean to ping you, a bit confuse don how this all works
19:00 MTDiscord <Flamore> I don't know either, I never compile minetest
19:01 lynx You just wait for the updates?
19:01 MTDiscord <Flamore> yeah
19:12 MTDiscord <MisterE> cd into the irrlichtmt folder, then git pull
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19:18 ROllerozxa haha wait, I can ping flamore just by saying Hi now?
19:18 ROllerozxa nvm
19:18 lynx MisterE: Thanks, works now :D
19:19 lynx I think you have to say Hi:
19:19 lynx or Hi,
19:19 lynx Hi,
19:19 lynx huh
19:19 lynx sorry for the ping again
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19:25 lynx While compiling, the process stoped with error code "File not found" regarding "l_areastore.cpp"
19:27 lynx couldn't find "spatialindex/spatialindex.h"
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19:47 MTDiscord <Fleckenstein> disable spatialindex then
19:48 MTDiscord <Fleckenstein> it should be a cmake variable
19:48 MTDiscord <luatic> install libspatialindex-dev
19:48 MTDiscord <luatic> (it speeds up areas)
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21:22 Skyrable https://discord.com/channels/1064931644445827112/1064931645314052190
21:23 Skyrable A discord create by idk put I got send that in me mail https://discord.com/channels/1064931644445827112/1064931645314052190
21:24 Desour don't use discord
21:24 Skyrable Why
21:24 muurkha it's a centralized service and doesn't even allow you the freedom of choosing what client to run
21:24 Desour there are many reasons. some are listed here: https://stallman.org/discord.html
21:25 Skyrable ok i lie its me friend discord server
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22:06 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> does the IRC see messages from Discord?
22:07 ROllerozxa discord users!!
22:07 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> this link is only valid for people who are in whatever Discord server that channel is located in
22:08 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> or if it is in this server, it is in a channel I cannot access
22:08 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> yeah to invite someone to a discord you need to create an invite link, not copy the link to the channel itself
22:08 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> like, discord.gg/minetest
22:15 MTDiscord <MNH48> > does the IRC see messages from Discord?
22:15 MTDiscord <MNH48> yes IRC users do see messages we write from discord, but they don't see the 'replied' status, so if you're replying to someone please quote their message manually
22:17 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> oh okay
22:19 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> > The Discord communications system requires running a nonfree client program. That alone is reason to refuse to use it. wait there are seriously people who refuse to use any and all software that isn't open? I thought such a community was a joke
22:20 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> FOSS extremists do in fact exist
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22:21 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> oh and this is actually written out by Stallman
22:21 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> I feel dirty opening the link
22:22 Desour why?
22:23 lebruhgamer[m] MTDiscord: if flat earthers exist, why would you thought FOSS extremist don't exist lol
22:24 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> there's a bunch of controversy over comments he made about minors and rape
22:25 lebruhgamer[m] uh oh, that's gonna trigger another large drama .. imma get popcorn ready
22:25 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> I always miss the drama but not this time
22:26 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> should I not have answered? I am not interested in talking about it further
22:27 Desour of course you should not have not answered. not answering is not nice
22:29 lebruhgamer[m] well, that part of controversy kinda even divided the Linux community in half, leave alone the wider community .. because of how his comment about rape itself is also acceptable in some culture but completely not acceptable in other culture -- I afraid a large drama could occur here from both side as it's some kind of culture nuances
22:31 lebruhgamer[m] it's similar to how in some culture you can walk naked in street just fine and even kids TV shows had genitalia showing, while on other end you have culture where even showing mere skin is punishable by stone-throwing
22:31 lebruhgamer[m] it's culture nuances
22:34 Desour anyway, IIRC in that controversy there were by far more people on rms's side. and it also had nothing to do with his standpoint about free software and other spreaded opinions, so I guess you saying you feel dirty is this cancel culture that some people talk about
22:35 lebruhgamer[m] not really, pretty much most people I know of in my side were against rms in this
22:36 Desour "in your side"?
22:36 lebruhgamer[m] hence why I said this could cause drama
22:36 lebruhgamer[m] in my side, like, people I talk to irl etc
22:37 lebruhgamer[m] there's something called "real life" out there
22:37 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> well I'm neither pro or anti cancelling on principle, I'm a case by case person I think most people of any political persuasion don't actually believe in absolutely no cancelling whatsoever, and also most people of any political persuasion don't actually believe all any failings should lead to cancelling
22:38 MTDiscord <MNH48> they don't see edits from discord btw
22:38 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> oh oops
22:38 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> well I'm neither pro or anti cancelling on principle, I'm a case by case person I think most people of any political persuasion don't actually believe in absolutely no cancelling whatsoever, and also most people of any political persuasion don't actually believe all and any failings should lead to cancelling
22:38 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> reposted
22:38 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> I edit my posts a lot
22:39 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Your data in here is immutable
22:39 MTDiscord <MNH48> you can see what other people see by reading the IRC log, which is public
22:39 MTDiscord <MNH48> https://irc.minetest.net/minetest/today
22:40 MTDiscord <MNH48> (or by logging into IRC itself)
22:40 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> huh Wuzzy is there they sound cool I would love to chat
22:40 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> with them
22:41 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> damn it's harder to converse when I can't edit
22:42 MTDiscord <MNH48> basically, think of what you want to write in advance, and only send it when you're sure of what you're about to say
22:42 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> maybe I should join IRC some day my gf is already on it on the other hand, it'd mean I'd have to juggle between IRC an Discord
22:42 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> > basically, think of what you want to write in advance, and only send it when you're sure of what you're about to say that is a nightmare for me
22:43 Desour separating quoted text by one space doesn't work :P
22:44 Desour you can always correct yourself using things like `<corrected text>*` or `s/<wrong text>/<corrected text>/`
22:46 lebruhgamer[m] don't forget that there's people on Matrix also bridged here
22:46 lebruhgamer[m] * on Matrix that's also bridged
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22:48 lebruhgamer[m] we're always watching you guys
22:51 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> I have no idea what Matrix is
22:58 MTDiscord <MNH48> it's this: https://matrix.org
23:08 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Desour: actually, discord will interpret sed expressions (just the simple replace) to edit your last message
23:11 rubenwardy s/you/u
23:11 rubenwardy Would have liked it if you could edit other messages from the IRC bot
23:12 Desour s/a blue pebble/green/
23:12 Desour did this work?
23:12 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Nope
23:12 Desour why not?
23:12 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Because its only meant to keep messages from being logged publicly
23:12 Desour (sorry for offense btw)
23:13 Desour ah, it did work!
23:13 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Discord message history is more akin to a user having a bouncer
23:13 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Unless you sent a message other than thr blue pebble remark, it did not work
23:14 Desour oh
23:14 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> The*
23:14 Desour I wrote a replace msg afterwards
23:14 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> I saw, but it only works on the discord client
23:14 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> The client will interpret a sed exp and perform the edit action
23:15 Desour yeah, my idea was that you can't see the original msg
23:15 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> I could technically make the bridge do the same thing for irc but I don't like modifying a third party tool
23:15 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Yeah [off] has no effect on the bridge, for much the same reason (maintaining modifications became annoying)
23:16 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> And even if it weren't tedious, I don't intend to support it
23:16 Desour the [off] was just so that you can't see the original msg in the logs
23:17 Desour so, did you see the "[off] GreenXenith is a blue pebble"?
23:17 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Ah, I thought the question of working was about [off]... since most people have that question
23:17 Desour or "[off] GreenXenith is green"?
23:17 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> I saw the blue, and then the s/edit
23:18 Desour in notifications, or as two messages, or did you watch the chat window the whole time?
23:18 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Like I said, discord client feature, doesn't work on the bridge
23:18 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Two separate messages
23:18 Desour oooh, so the sender replaces its msg
23:19 Desour I thought your client interprets the msg
23:19 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> A discord user typing s/this/that literally performs a message edit to do the replace
23:20 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Its just a shorthand convenience thing
23:20 Desour mhm
23:20 Desour btw. speaking of the discord bridge, it would be nice if the names were proper irc names, like for the matrix bridge
23:21 Desour missing auto-completion and name coloring is annoying
23:21 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> I was under the impression that the matrix bridge is not a singular bridge point like discord
23:22 Desour idk how the bridges work, this was just a feature request ^^
23:22 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> I believe matrixs bridge is more integrated so they have a "bridge" per user
23:23 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Point being they have proper nicks because they are all connecting through a separate bridge
23:23 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Or something like that
23:23 Desour I see
23:24 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Don't quote me on that, I also am not sure how it works. It is simply conjecture
23:25 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Unless irc lets you send each message under an arbitrary name
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23:27 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Matrix users are literally connecting to the irc channel. On discord the bridge simply exists, there is not opting in or out outside of having permissions to speak in our bridge channel
23:28 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> No opting*
23:29 Desour is there maybe a better bridge between matrix and discord, so that the discord ppl could be bridged indirectly over matrix?
23:29 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> I guess technically the discord bridge could connect each use that speaks as a new irc user
23:30 MTDiscord <Jonathon> you would need a better matrix to irc bridge since the default one is rubbish
23:30 MTDiscord <Bastrabun> We're using matterbridge to connect discord and IRC and twitch and ingame chat. Will that help?
23:30 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Which i don't know if libera even allows (max users per ip and all that)
23:30 MTDiscord <Bastrabun> Due to the ... talkative nature ... of the server we've run into somekind of ratelimiter with matrix though
23:30 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> And also, managing a ton of fake irc users is just a pain
23:31 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Not to mention if evey discord user were to speak at some point, you'd end up with thousands of bridged users
23:32 Desour well, they could time out after a day or so
23:32 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Perhaps
23:34 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> It would be rather odd for users to randomly join irc and somehow know what's being discussed, and then time out eventually
23:35 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> But it is a method
23:35 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> maybe I'll switch to Matrix if Discord runs out of investor cash before it solves the lack of profitability
23:36 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Pretty sure discord makes enough between nitro, server boosting, and merch
23:40 MTDiscord <Enbylvania (they/she/he)> maybe I know they still weren't making a profit in the beginning of 2022 but a lot has changed since then
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