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Wuzzy |
i tried default settings as well |
| 00:00 |
Wuzzy |
sometimes the memory fills within minutes when i fly (and generate many mapchunks) |
| 00:00 |
muurkha |
:( |
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Wuzzy |
are there any settings thtat could help me? or does minetest suffer from a gigantic memory leak somehow? |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob> Wuzzy: MT will leak memory between sessions if you don't restart MT between them. |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob> I'm not sure if that's the culprit, but that's a pretty common one |
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Blockhead256[m] |
about 4K: Even if it's not playable with the right render distance in some circumstance, it's a great quality improvement for screenshots even if downscaling back to 1080. You don't need anti-aliasing enabled at 4K even if you usually like it on at 1080. When you want to take a screenshot of a very large render distance, using 4K allows you to get more than about 3 pixels of information on the nodes in the distance. Try upping your |
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Blockhead256[m] |
monitor's resolution with xrandr/Windows driver "virtual super resolution" and notice the results :) |
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lissobone |
🤓 |
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MTDiscord |
<Flamore> true... |
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MTDiscord |
<kimapr> 🤓: "🤓" |
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lissobone |
🤓: "🤓: "🤓"" |
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MTDiscord |
<kimapr> 🤓(x) = "🤓: "x"" |
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grouinos |
hello, how can i make a server with minetest please |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> grouinos: https://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server |
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grouinos |
don't work |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> well then that's unfortunate |
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comrad |
with that elaborate error message there is probably nothing left we can do |
| 09:56 |
lissobone |
grouinos: Maybe you have to configure port forwarding for the server to be available from the outside. |
| 09:59 |
MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Don't use Hamachi oh my God I know where this is going |
| 10:00 |
MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> I can't delete my text in irc, by saying no, I've already set in motion the events. So sad |
| 10:09 |
lissobone |
jordan4ibanez: Are you sure this is sad? |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> who is hamachi |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> No more of pathetic that Hamachi still exists |
| 10:51 |
MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Hamachi is uh, Hamachi is. Hm. Allows you to create virtual networks when you can't port forward |
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grouinos |
lissobone, done |
| 11:19 |
lissobone |
grouinos: did you configure port forwarding on your router? |
| 11:20 |
lissobone |
This way, once someone sends a request to a certain port/port range on your router IP, it will be redirected to a specific ip and port on the local network. |
| 11:20 |
lissobone |
Once port forwarding is established, any server on that port will be available to the public. |
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mazes_83 |
5.7.0: Rotating entity selection boxes: nice, how to use ? |
| 14:09 |
Desour |
!api |
| 14:09 |
MinetestBot |
Someone thinks you should read the API docs, please go to: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt |
| 14:34 |
mazes_83 |
thx, it's already in doc |
| 14:34 |
mazes_83 |
so rotate = true in selection box |
| 14:35 |
Desour |
yes. all changes are immediately added to docs when they're implemented |
| 14:35 |
Desour |
just out of interest, did you now take so long to search through the docs, or did you do something else? |
| 14:36 |
mazes_83 |
I just hid my irc to play minetest |
| 14:36 |
Desour |
ah, ok |
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mazes_83 |
after getting reply it was just a matter of seconds hopefully |
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MinetestBot |
[git] rollerozxa -> minetest/minetest: Translated using Weblate (Swedish) 36c5ea2 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/36c5ea2d5d09069b0098b2fca29add493546598e (2023-03-09T14:31:35Z) |
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kilbith |
jag elskar dig |
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lissobone |
NRO ESN AFSPC NIMA Domestic security Weapons cache PPP SRI CCS rail gun DITSA Bust NOCS Cap-Stun Afghanistan |
| 15:58 |
lissobone |
Minox CFC Burst First responder NATOA assassination EADA Archives Ecoterrorism unclassified Breach bootleg insurgency CBOT PRIME |
| 16:00 |
Desour |
assuming both were cats, I'd like to assure to lissobone's one that I will never refuse to pet it when requested |
| 16:22 |
lissobone |
Small Pox PRIME Environmental terrorist lynch Smallpox grom al-Qa'ida Arnett Airport DES Antiviral primacord SURVIAC wire transfer Secret Service |
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lissobone |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Did lissobone get hacked and is now controlled by a bot trying to get them on every watchlist possible? |
| 16:31 |
lissobone |
Warr1024: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Hacker |
| 16:32 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> The origin of "hacker" I learned was "somebody who solves problems in a clever and unconventional manner", from the model train community. The "playful" part though is new to me... |
| 16:33 |
lissobone |
Hackers may approach differently to solving problems in a clever manner. Some may be playful, some may be serious. |
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Noisytoot |
lissobone just likes to spam stuff from Emacs (that was M-x spook, they also do M-x doctor) |
| 16:51 |
lissobone |
I am not plural. |
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Desour |
"The term “WC” has been suggested for a computer running Windows." |
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muurkha |
I would say that if you aren't feeling playful you aren't hacking |
| 17:13 |
lissobone |
Desour: I use terms "Losedows" and "WC" on a daily basis. |
| 17:14 |
lissobone |
I also use Trisquel as my operating system. |
| 17:14 |
lissobone |
And I am writing this from GNU Emacs. |
| 17:18 |
Desour |
I've read your message from an application running under an X.Org server |
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lissobone |
Hmm, that's good. |
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mrkubax10 |
I read that from irssi |
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mrkubax10 |
running inside urxvt |
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lynx |
Hi, just a quick question: trying to build MT seem to have older IrrlichtMT version, how do I update it using git? |
| 18:59 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> i don't know |
| 19:00 |
lynx |
Sorry for Ping |
| 19:00 |
lynx |
Didn't mean to ping you, a bit confuse don how this all works |
| 19:00 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> I don't know either, I never compile minetest |
| 19:01 |
lynx |
You just wait for the updates? |
| 19:01 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> yeah |
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MTDiscord |
<MisterE> cd into the irrlichtmt folder, then git pull |
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ROllerozxa |
haha wait, I can ping flamore just by saying Hi now? |
| 19:18 |
ROllerozxa |
nvm |
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lynx |
MisterE: Thanks, works now :D |
| 19:19 |
lynx |
I think you have to say Hi: |
| 19:19 |
lynx |
or Hi, |
| 19:19 |
lynx |
Hi, |
| 19:19 |
lynx |
huh |
| 19:19 |
lynx |
sorry for the ping again |
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lynx |
While compiling, the process stoped with error code "File not found" regarding "l_areastore.cpp" |
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lynx |
couldn't find "spatialindex/spatialindex.h" |
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MTDiscord |
<Fleckenstein> disable spatialindex then |
| 19:48 |
MTDiscord |
<Fleckenstein> it should be a cmake variable |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> install libspatialindex-dev |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> (it speeds up areas) |
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Skyrable |
https://discord.com/channels/1064931644445827112/1064931645314052190 |
| 21:23 |
Skyrable |
A discord create by idk put I got send that in me mail https://discord.com/channels/1064931644445827112/1064931645314052190 |
| 21:24 |
Desour |
don't use discord |
| 21:24 |
Skyrable |
Why |
| 21:24 |
muurkha |
it's a centralized service and doesn't even allow you the freedom of choosing what client to run |
| 21:24 |
Desour |
there are many reasons. some are listed here: https://stallman.org/discord.html |
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Skyrable |
ok i lie its me friend discord server |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> does the IRC see messages from Discord? |
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ROllerozxa |
discord users!! |
| 22:07 |
MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> this link is only valid for people who are in whatever Discord server that channel is located in |
| 22:08 |
MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> or if it is in this server, it is in a channel I cannot access |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> yeah to invite someone to a discord you need to create an invite link, not copy the link to the channel itself |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> like, discord.gg/minetest |
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MTDiscord |
<MNH48> > does the IRC see messages from Discord? |
| 22:15 |
MTDiscord |
<MNH48> yes IRC users do see messages we write from discord, but they don't see the 'replied' status, so if you're replying to someone please quote their message manually |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> oh okay |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> > The Discord communications system requires running a nonfree client program. That alone is reason to refuse to use it. wait there are seriously people who refuse to use any and all software that isn't open? I thought such a community was a joke |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> FOSS extremists do in fact exist |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> oh and this is actually written out by Stallman |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> I feel dirty opening the link |
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Desour |
why? |
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lebruhgamer[m] |
MTDiscord: if flat earthers exist, why would you thought FOSS extremist don't exist lol |
| 22:24 |
MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> there's a bunch of controversy over comments he made about minors and rape |
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lebruhgamer[m] |
uh oh, that's gonna trigger another large drama .. imma get popcorn ready |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> I always miss the drama but not this time |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> should I not have answered? I am not interested in talking about it further |
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Desour |
of course you should not have not answered. not answering is not nice |
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lebruhgamer[m] |
well, that part of controversy kinda even divided the Linux community in half, leave alone the wider community .. because of how his comment about rape itself is also acceptable in some culture but completely not acceptable in other culture -- I afraid a large drama could occur here from both side as it's some kind of culture nuances |
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lebruhgamer[m] |
it's similar to how in some culture you can walk naked in street just fine and even kids TV shows had genitalia showing, while on other end you have culture where even showing mere skin is punishable by stone-throwing |
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lebruhgamer[m] |
it's culture nuances |
| 22:34 |
Desour |
anyway, IIRC in that controversy there were by far more people on rms's side. and it also had nothing to do with his standpoint about free software and other spreaded opinions, so I guess you saying you feel dirty is this cancel culture that some people talk about |
| 22:35 |
lebruhgamer[m] |
not really, pretty much most people I know of in my side were against rms in this |
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Desour |
"in your side"? |
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lebruhgamer[m] |
hence why I said this could cause drama |
| 22:36 |
lebruhgamer[m] |
in my side, like, people I talk to irl etc |
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lebruhgamer[m] |
there's something called "real life" out there |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> well I'm neither pro or anti cancelling on principle, I'm a case by case person I think most people of any political persuasion don't actually believe in absolutely no cancelling whatsoever, and also most people of any political persuasion don't actually believe all any failings should lead to cancelling |
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MTDiscord |
<MNH48> they don't see edits from discord btw |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> oh oops |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> well I'm neither pro or anti cancelling on principle, I'm a case by case person I think most people of any political persuasion don't actually believe in absolutely no cancelling whatsoever, and also most people of any political persuasion don't actually believe all and any failings should lead to cancelling |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> reposted |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> I edit my posts a lot |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Your data in here is immutable |
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MTDiscord |
<MNH48> you can see what other people see by reading the IRC log, which is public |
| 22:39 |
MTDiscord |
<MNH48> https://irc.minetest.net/minetest/today |
| 22:40 |
MTDiscord |
<MNH48> (or by logging into IRC itself) |
| 22:40 |
MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> huh Wuzzy is there they sound cool I would love to chat |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> with them |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> damn it's harder to converse when I can't edit |
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MTDiscord |
<MNH48> basically, think of what you want to write in advance, and only send it when you're sure of what you're about to say |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> maybe I should join IRC some day my gf is already on it on the other hand, it'd mean I'd have to juggle between IRC an Discord |
| 22:42 |
MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> > basically, think of what you want to write in advance, and only send it when you're sure of what you're about to say that is a nightmare for me |
| 22:43 |
Desour |
separating quoted text by one space doesn't work :P |
| 22:44 |
Desour |
you can always correct yourself using things like `<corrected text>*` or `s/<wrong text>/<corrected text>/` |
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lebruhgamer[m] |
don't forget that there's people on Matrix also bridged here |
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lebruhgamer[m] |
* on Matrix that's also bridged |
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lebruhgamer[m] |
we're always watching you guys |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> I have no idea what Matrix is |
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MTDiscord |
<MNH48> it's this: https://matrix.org |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Desour: actually, discord will interpret sed expressions (just the simple replace) to edit your last message |
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rubenwardy |
s/you/u |
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rubenwardy |
Would have liked it if you could edit other messages from the IRC bot |
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Desour |
s/a blue pebble/green/ |
| 23:12 |
Desour |
did this work? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Nope |
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Desour |
why not? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Because its only meant to keep messages from being logged publicly |
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Desour |
(sorry for offense btw) |
| 23:13 |
Desour |
ah, it did work! |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Discord message history is more akin to a user having a bouncer |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Unless you sent a message other than thr blue pebble remark, it did not work |
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Desour |
oh |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> The* |
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Desour |
I wrote a replace msg afterwards |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I saw, but it only works on the discord client |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> The client will interpret a sed exp and perform the edit action |
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Desour |
yeah, my idea was that you can't see the original msg |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I could technically make the bridge do the same thing for irc but I don't like modifying a third party tool |
| 23:15 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Yeah [off] has no effect on the bridge, for much the same reason (maintaining modifications became annoying) |
| 23:16 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> And even if it weren't tedious, I don't intend to support it |
| 23:16 |
Desour |
the [off] was just so that you can't see the original msg in the logs |
| 23:17 |
Desour |
so, did you see the "[off] GreenXenith is a blue pebble"? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Ah, I thought the question of working was about [off]... since most people have that question |
| 23:17 |
Desour |
or "[off] GreenXenith is green"? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I saw the blue, and then the s/edit |
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Desour |
in notifications, or as two messages, or did you watch the chat window the whole time? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Like I said, discord client feature, doesn't work on the bridge |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Two separate messages |
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Desour |
oooh, so the sender replaces its msg |
| 23:19 |
Desour |
I thought your client interprets the msg |
| 23:19 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> A discord user typing s/this/that literally performs a message edit to do the replace |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Its just a shorthand convenience thing |
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Desour |
mhm |
| 23:20 |
Desour |
btw. speaking of the discord bridge, it would be nice if the names were proper irc names, like for the matrix bridge |
| 23:21 |
Desour |
missing auto-completion and name coloring is annoying |
| 23:21 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I was under the impression that the matrix bridge is not a singular bridge point like discord |
| 23:22 |
Desour |
idk how the bridges work, this was just a feature request ^^ |
| 23:22 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I believe matrixs bridge is more integrated so they have a "bridge" per user |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Point being they have proper nicks because they are all connecting through a separate bridge |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Or something like that |
| 23:23 |
Desour |
I see |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Don't quote me on that, I also am not sure how it works. It is simply conjecture |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Unless irc lets you send each message under an arbitrary name |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Matrix users are literally connecting to the irc channel. On discord the bridge simply exists, there is not opting in or out outside of having permissions to speak in our bridge channel |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> No opting* |
| 23:29 |
Desour |
is there maybe a better bridge between matrix and discord, so that the discord ppl could be bridged indirectly over matrix? |
| 23:29 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I guess technically the discord bridge could connect each use that speaks as a new irc user |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> you would need a better matrix to irc bridge since the default one is rubbish |
| 23:30 |
MTDiscord |
<Bastrabun> We're using matterbridge to connect discord and IRC and twitch and ingame chat. Will that help? |
| 23:30 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Which i don't know if libera even allows (max users per ip and all that) |
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MTDiscord |
<Bastrabun> Due to the ... talkative nature ... of the server we've run into somekind of ratelimiter with matrix though |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> And also, managing a ton of fake irc users is just a pain |
| 23:31 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Not to mention if evey discord user were to speak at some point, you'd end up with thousands of bridged users |
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Desour |
well, they could time out after a day or so |
| 23:32 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Perhaps |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> It would be rather odd for users to randomly join irc and somehow know what's being discussed, and then time out eventually |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> But it is a method |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> maybe I'll switch to Matrix if Discord runs out of investor cash before it solves the lack of profitability |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Pretty sure discord makes enough between nitro, server boosting, and merch |
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MTDiscord |
<Enbylvania (they/she/he)> maybe I know they still weren't making a profit in the beginning of 2022 but a lot has changed since then |
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