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lissobone |
Enbylvania: Open? You said Open? Sir, this is the Free Software community, not that open source initiative that splintered off in 90s. |
| 07:25 |
lissobone |
Linux? No. |
| 07:26 |
lissobone |
Do you want proof that Stallman changed his mind on sex with consent? |
| 07:26 |
lissobone |
https://stallman.org/archives/2019-sep-dec.html#14_September_2019_(Sex_between_an_adult_and_a_child_is_wrong) |
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lissobone |
We are not FOSS extremists, we are Free Software advocates. Such statements disparage our mission, putting it in the same boat with Hussein and various other terrorists. |
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muurkha |
Sigh |
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lissobone |
Yes, the old messages triggered me. |
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lissobone |
As a free software advocate, I feel entitled to correct others' mistakes and defend my point of view. You are free to provide arguments in your favor too. |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> I don't want you to see my horrific code base, closed source, closed case |
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lissobone |
In what sense see? |
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muurkha |
if you are going to try to influence people, maybe describing Muhammad's grandson as a "terroris" is a suboptimal move |
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muurkha |
*terrorist |
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lissobone |
muurkha: Allah created all people equal. Crimes cannot be justified. |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> I'm outta here! |
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<Flamore> same |
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mazes_83 |
any intererest in making fields read-only, in a table I export globally from within a mod |
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mazes_83 |
I guess it's good: but I fist wonder about the overhead and second the table itself can be overwritten as it is global |
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MTDiscord |
<Atlante> T'es ou mazes ? |
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mazes_83 |
chez moi |
| 17:19 |
mazes_83 |
salut |
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MTDiscord |
<Atlante> Oui mais tu parle d'ou xD ? |
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MTDiscord |
<Atlante> slt |
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mazes_83 |
il y a un bridge irc <-> discord |
| 17:20 |
MTDiscord |
<Atlante> Oui mais t'es sur quel serveur ;I |
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mazes_83 |
je pense qu'il n'y a qu'un seul relai irc pour minetest -> libera.chat, je pense pas que le canal freenode soit encore utilisé |
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mazes_83 |
au fait, les maidroids peuvent utiliser better farming maintenant |
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MTDiscord |
<Atlante> Ho c'est cool sa :D |
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MTDiscord |
<Atlante> Je re bientot j'vais reboot mon systeme linux avec une version 2019 :p |
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MTDiscord |
<Atlante> Les versions récente on quelque bug génant :p |
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mazes_83 |
par contre je pense pas que le canal soit fait pour des discussions privées, dommage, comme j'ai pas discord on peut pas faire du privé, ou alors faut que tu irc aussi |
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MTDiscord |
<Atlante> Mais tu as pas address mail ? |
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mazes_83 |
si, mais c'est pas trop synchrone |
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MTDiscord |
<Atlante> Ya toute la communauté minetest avec des salons pour des aides dans les codes et tout |
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MTDiscord |
<Atlante> Que veut-tu dire par "synchrone" |
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mazes_83 |
j'aime pas discord, déjà parce que ça s'appelle pas "harmony" |
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MTDiscord |
<Atlante> Wat ? |
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mazes_83 |
between discord and harmony there is such a gap |
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MTDiscord |
<Atlante> Essaye au moins une fois stp, tien mon discord en amis : Atlante#0896 |
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mazes_83 |
they care about toilet paper brand I use to make advertisements, for my part I just use it to ... |
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MTDiscord |
<Atlante> Euh |
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mrkubax10 |
what type is pointed_thing argument passed to on_place callback in node definition? |
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MTDiscord |
<SaKeL> ~api pointed_thing |
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MTDiscord |
<SaKeL> ups wrong channel 🙂 |
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mrkubax10 |
!api pointed_thing |
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MinetestBot |
pointed_thing, someone thinks you should read the API docs, please go to: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt |
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mrkubax10 |
ah it's not what I thought it was |
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sfan5 |
yeah it can't do lookup |
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MinetestBot |
[git] RichardTry -> minetest/minetest_game: Tweak MTG craftguide Russian translation (#2975) 6921c9b https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/6921c9bbd134391a78eb6e4f1d578fcac085ddcc (2023-03-10T19:26:30Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] RichardTry -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix 'boats' russian translation (#2974) aeb27c4 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/aeb27c4db6959d20e525f5754b88d107b168e957 (2023-03-10T19:27:15Z) |
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mazes_83 |
any interest in making fields read-only, in a table I export globally from within a mod ? conceptually seems good but: 1/ global scope allows to erase whole table anyway, 2/ any overhead ? |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> You can't make table fields "read-only"; rawget and rawset can always be used to modify your table. |
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mazes_83 |
so really no interest |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> How would you implement "read-only" fields anyway? The only possible implementation I see right now would be using a proxy table which delegates to the actual table using the __index metamethod and throwing an error on __newindex. This will negatively impact performance and it might negatively impact developer experience (e.g. pairs(t) won't work as expected). |
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mazes_83 |
yes I used a proxy table |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> mazes_83: Another thing to keep in mind: There might be legitimate use cases for users to monkey-patch, hook or even extend your table, which is only possible if it is "writable". |
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mazes_83 |
it remains kind of writable but with add only feature to allow registering new features |
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Desour |
if you have some global table that should be read-only, you can document it. and depending mods can use luacheck to make sure they never write to it |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> mazes_83: I'd get rid of it. It complicates your code, limits mod devs (who now have to find workarounds to monkey-patch your table), and it seems very, very unlikely to me that one would accidentally overwrite functions of your mod table; if they really want to, they will always be able to. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> mazes_83: well, do you prevent rawset? |
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mazes_83 |
anyway I just tested this in a branch |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> (you'd have to overwrite rawset for that) |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> but yes, documenting it is the most I'd do |
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mazes_83 |
I was lazy to document, but the "locked" branch quite made it, I just have to copy code to READMe or API.md |
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