Time Nick Message 00:00 Wuzzy i tried default settings as well 00:00 Wuzzy sometimes the memory fills within minutes when i fly (and generate many mapchunks) 00:00 muurkha :( 00:01 Wuzzy are there any settings thtat could help me? or does minetest suffer from a gigantic memory leak somehow? 01:52 MTDiscord Wuzzy: MT will leak memory between sessions if you don't restart MT between them. 01:53 MTDiscord I'm not sure if that's the culprit, but that's a pretty common one 04:06 Blockhead256[m] about 4K: Even if it's not playable with the right render distance in some circumstance, it's a great quality improvement for screenshots even if downscaling back to 1080. You don't need anti-aliasing enabled at 4K even if you usually like it on at 1080. When you want to take a screenshot of a very large render distance, using 4K allows you to get more than about 3 pixels of information on the nodes in the distance. Try upping your 04:06 Blockhead256[m] monitor's resolution with xrandr/Windows driver "virtual super resolution" and notice the results :) 06:29 lissobone 🤓 06:58 MTDiscord true... 06:59 MTDiscord 🤓: "🤓" 07:19 lissobone 🤓: "🤓: "🤓"" 07:26 MTDiscord 🤓(x) = "🤓: "x"" 07:46 grouinos hello, how can i make a server with minetest please 08:07 MTDiscord grouinos: https://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server 09:15 grouinos don't work 09:17 MTDiscord well then that's unfortunate 09:27 comrad with that elaborate error message there is probably nothing left we can do 09:56 lissobone grouinos: Maybe you have to configure port forwarding for the server to be available from the outside. 09:59 MTDiscord Don't use Hamachi oh my God I know where this is going 10:00 MTDiscord I can't delete my text in irc, by saying no, I've already set in motion the events. So sad 10:09 lissobone jordan4ibanez: Are you sure this is sad? 10:11 MTDiscord who is hamachi 10:50 MTDiscord No more of pathetic that Hamachi still exists 10:51 MTDiscord Hamachi is uh, Hamachi is. Hm. Allows you to create virtual networks when you can't port forward 11:18 grouinos lissobone, done 11:19 lissobone grouinos: did you configure port forwarding on your router? 11:20 lissobone This way, once someone sends a request to a certain port/port range on your router IP, it will be redirected to a specific ip and port on the local network. 11:20 lissobone Once port forwarding is established, any server on that port will be available to the public. 14:03 mazes_83 5.7.0: Rotating entity selection boxes: nice, how to use ? 14:09 Desour !api 14:09 MinetestBot Someone thinks you should read the API docs, please go to: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt 14:34 mazes_83 thx, it's already in doc 14:34 mazes_83 so rotate = true in selection box 14:35 Desour yes. all changes are immediately added to docs when they're implemented 14:35 Desour just out of interest, did you now take so long to search through the docs, or did you do something else? 14:36 mazes_83 I just hid my irc to play minetest 14:36 Desour ah, ok 14:37 mazes_83 after getting reply it was just a matter of seconds hopefully 15:25 MinetestBot 02[git] 04rollerozxa -> 03minetest/minetest: Translated using Weblate (Swedish) 1336c5ea2 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/36c5ea2d5d09069b0098b2fca29add493546598e (152023-03-09T14:31:35Z) 15:54 kilbith jag elskar dig 15:58 lissobone NRO ESN AFSPC NIMA Domestic security Weapons cache PPP SRI CCS rail gun DITSA Bust NOCS Cap-Stun Afghanistan 15:58 lissobone Minox CFC Burst First responder NATOA assassination EADA Archives Ecoterrorism unclassified Breach bootleg insurgency CBOT PRIME 16:00 Desour assuming both were cats, I'd like to assure to lissobone's one that I will never refuse to pet it when requested 16:22 lissobone Small Pox PRIME Environmental terrorist lynch Smallpox grom al-Qa'ida Arnett Airport DES Antiviral primacord SURVIAC wire transfer Secret Service 16:22 lissobone 16:29 MTDiscord Did lissobone get hacked and is now controlled by a bot trying to get them on every watchlist possible? 16:31 lissobone Warr1024: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Hacker 16:32 MTDiscord The origin of "hacker" I learned was "somebody who solves problems in a clever and unconventional manner", from the model train community. The "playful" part though is new to me... 16:33 lissobone Hackers may approach differently to solving problems in a clever manner. Some may be playful, some may be serious. 16:50 Noisytoot lissobone just likes to spam stuff from Emacs (that was M-x spook, they also do M-x doctor) 16:51 lissobone I am not plural. 17:07 Desour "The term “WC” has been suggested for a computer running Windows." 17:10 muurkha I would say that if you aren't feeling playful you aren't hacking 17:13 lissobone Desour: I use terms "Losedows" and "WC" on a daily basis. 17:14 lissobone I also use Trisquel as my operating system. 17:14 lissobone And I am writing this from GNU Emacs. 17:18 Desour I've read your message from an application running under an X.Org server 17:27 lissobone Hmm, that's good. 17:49 mrkubax10 I read that from irssi 17:49 mrkubax10 running inside urxvt 18:59 lynx Hi, just a quick question: trying to build MT seem to have older IrrlichtMT version, how do I update it using git? 18:59 MTDiscord i don't know 19:00 lynx Sorry for Ping 19:00 lynx Didn't mean to ping you, a bit confuse don how this all works 19:00 MTDiscord I don't know either, I never compile minetest 19:01 lynx You just wait for the updates? 19:01 MTDiscord yeah 19:12 MTDiscord cd into the irrlichtmt folder, then git pull 19:18 ROllerozxa haha wait, I can ping flamore just by saying Hi now? 19:18 ROllerozxa nvm 19:18 lynx MisterE: Thanks, works now :D 19:19 lynx I think you have to say Hi: 19:19 lynx or Hi, 19:19 lynx Hi, 19:19 lynx huh 19:19 lynx sorry for the ping again 19:25 lynx While compiling, the process stoped with error code "File not found" regarding "l_areastore.cpp" 19:27 lynx couldn't find "spatialindex/spatialindex.h" 19:47 MTDiscord disable spatialindex then 19:48 MTDiscord it should be a cmake variable 19:48 MTDiscord install libspatialindex-dev 19:48 MTDiscord (it speeds up areas) 21:22 Skyrable https://discord.com/channels/1064931644445827112/1064931645314052190 21:23 Skyrable A discord create by idk put I got send that in me mail https://discord.com/channels/1064931644445827112/1064931645314052190 21:24 Desour don't use discord 21:24 Skyrable Why 21:24 muurkha it's a centralized service and doesn't even allow you the freedom of choosing what client to run 21:24 Desour there are many reasons. some are listed here: https://stallman.org/discord.html 21:25 Skyrable ok i lie its me friend discord server 22:06 MTDiscord does the IRC see messages from Discord? 22:07 ROllerozxa discord users!! 22:07 MTDiscord this link is only valid for people who are in whatever Discord server that channel is located in 22:08 MTDiscord or if it is in this server, it is in a channel I cannot access 22:08 MTDiscord yeah to invite someone to a discord you need to create an invite link, not copy the link to the channel itself 22:08 MTDiscord like, discord.gg/minetest 22:15 MTDiscord > does the IRC see messages from Discord? 22:15 MTDiscord yes IRC users do see messages we write from discord, but they don't see the 'replied' status, so if you're replying to someone please quote their message manually 22:17 MTDiscord oh okay 22:19 MTDiscord > The Discord communications system requires running a nonfree client program. That alone is reason to refuse to use it. wait there are seriously people who refuse to use any and all software that isn't open? I thought such a community was a joke 22:20 MTDiscord FOSS extremists do in fact exist 22:21 MTDiscord oh and this is actually written out by Stallman 22:21 MTDiscord I feel dirty opening the link 22:22 Desour why? 22:23 lebruhgamer[m] MTDiscord: if flat earthers exist, why would you thought FOSS extremist don't exist lol 22:24 MTDiscord there's a bunch of controversy over comments he made about minors and rape 22:25 lebruhgamer[m] uh oh, that's gonna trigger another large drama .. imma get popcorn ready 22:25 MTDiscord I always miss the drama but not this time 22:26 MTDiscord should I not have answered? I am not interested in talking about it further 22:27 Desour of course you should not have not answered. not answering is not nice 22:29 lebruhgamer[m] well, that part of controversy kinda even divided the Linux community in half, leave alone the wider community .. because of how his comment about rape itself is also acceptable in some culture but completely not acceptable in other culture -- I afraid a large drama could occur here from both side as it's some kind of culture nuances 22:31 lebruhgamer[m] it's similar to how in some culture you can walk naked in street just fine and even kids TV shows had genitalia showing, while on other end you have culture where even showing mere skin is punishable by stone-throwing 22:31 lebruhgamer[m] it's culture nuances 22:34 Desour anyway, IIRC in that controversy there were by far more people on rms's side. and it also had nothing to do with his standpoint about free software and other spreaded opinions, so I guess you saying you feel dirty is this cancel culture that some people talk about 22:35 lebruhgamer[m] not really, pretty much most people I know of in my side were against rms in this 22:36 Desour "in your side"? 22:36 lebruhgamer[m] hence why I said this could cause drama 22:36 lebruhgamer[m] in my side, like, people I talk to irl etc 22:37 lebruhgamer[m] there's something called "real life" out there 22:37 MTDiscord well I'm neither pro or anti cancelling on principle, I'm a case by case person I think most people of any political persuasion don't actually believe in absolutely no cancelling whatsoever, and also most people of any political persuasion don't actually believe all any failings should lead to cancelling 22:38 MTDiscord they don't see edits from discord btw 22:38 MTDiscord oh oops 22:38 MTDiscord well I'm neither pro or anti cancelling on principle, I'm a case by case person I think most people of any political persuasion don't actually believe in absolutely no cancelling whatsoever, and also most people of any political persuasion don't actually believe all and any failings should lead to cancelling 22:38 MTDiscord reposted 22:38 MTDiscord I edit my posts a lot 22:39 MTDiscord Your data in here is immutable 22:39 MTDiscord you can see what other people see by reading the IRC log, which is public 22:39 MTDiscord https://irc.minetest.net/minetest/today 22:40 MTDiscord (or by logging into IRC itself) 22:40 MTDiscord huh Wuzzy is there they sound cool I would love to chat 22:40 MTDiscord with them 22:41 MTDiscord damn it's harder to converse when I can't edit 22:42 MTDiscord basically, think of what you want to write in advance, and only send it when you're sure of what you're about to say 22:42 MTDiscord maybe I should join IRC some day my gf is already on it on the other hand, it'd mean I'd have to juggle between IRC an Discord 22:42 MTDiscord > basically, think of what you want to write in advance, and only send it when you're sure of what you're about to say that is a nightmare for me 22:43 Desour separating quoted text by one space doesn't work :P 22:44 Desour you can always correct yourself using things like `*` or `s///` 22:46 lebruhgamer[m] don't forget that there's people on Matrix also bridged here 22:46 lebruhgamer[m] * on Matrix that's also bridged 22:48 lebruhgamer[m] we're always watching you guys 22:51 MTDiscord I have no idea what Matrix is 22:58 MTDiscord it's this: https://matrix.org 23:08 MTDiscord Desour: actually, discord will interpret sed expressions (just the simple replace) to edit your last message 23:11 rubenwardy s/you/u 23:11 rubenwardy Would have liked it if you could edit other messages from the IRC bot 23:12 Desour s/a blue pebble/green/ 23:12 Desour did this work? 23:12 MTDiscord Nope 23:12 Desour why not? 23:12 MTDiscord Because its only meant to keep messages from being logged publicly 23:12 Desour (sorry for offense btw) 23:13 Desour ah, it did work! 23:13 MTDiscord Discord message history is more akin to a user having a bouncer 23:13 MTDiscord Unless you sent a message other than thr blue pebble remark, it did not work 23:14 Desour oh 23:14 MTDiscord The* 23:14 Desour I wrote a replace msg afterwards 23:14 MTDiscord I saw, but it only works on the discord client 23:14 MTDiscord The client will interpret a sed exp and perform the edit action 23:15 Desour yeah, my idea was that you can't see the original msg 23:15 MTDiscord I could technically make the bridge do the same thing for irc but I don't like modifying a third party tool 23:15 MTDiscord Yeah [off] has no effect on the bridge, for much the same reason (maintaining modifications became annoying) 23:16 MTDiscord And even if it weren't tedious, I don't intend to support it 23:16 Desour the [off] was just so that you can't see the original msg in the logs 23:17 Desour so, did you see the "[off] GreenXenith is a blue pebble"? 23:17 MTDiscord Ah, I thought the question of working was about [off]... since most people have that question 23:17 Desour or "[off] GreenXenith is green"? 23:17 MTDiscord I saw the blue, and then the s/edit 23:18 Desour in notifications, or as two messages, or did you watch the chat window the whole time? 23:18 MTDiscord Like I said, discord client feature, doesn't work on the bridge 23:18 MTDiscord Two separate messages 23:18 Desour oooh, so the sender replaces its msg 23:19 Desour I thought your client interprets the msg 23:19 MTDiscord A discord user typing s/this/that literally performs a message edit to do the replace 23:20 MTDiscord Its just a shorthand convenience thing 23:20 Desour mhm 23:20 Desour btw. speaking of the discord bridge, it would be nice if the names were proper irc names, like for the matrix bridge 23:21 Desour missing auto-completion and name coloring is annoying 23:21 MTDiscord I was under the impression that the matrix bridge is not a singular bridge point like discord 23:22 Desour idk how the bridges work, this was just a feature request ^^ 23:22 MTDiscord I believe matrixs bridge is more integrated so they have a "bridge" per user 23:23 MTDiscord Point being they have proper nicks because they are all connecting through a separate bridge 23:23 MTDiscord Or something like that 23:23 Desour I see 23:24 MTDiscord Don't quote me on that, I also am not sure how it works. It is simply conjecture 23:25 MTDiscord Unless irc lets you send each message under an arbitrary name 23:27 MTDiscord Matrix users are literally connecting to the irc channel. On discord the bridge simply exists, there is not opting in or out outside of having permissions to speak in our bridge channel 23:28 MTDiscord No opting* 23:29 Desour is there maybe a better bridge between matrix and discord, so that the discord ppl could be bridged indirectly over matrix? 23:29 MTDiscord I guess technically the discord bridge could connect each use that speaks as a new irc user 23:30 MTDiscord you would need a better matrix to irc bridge since the default one is rubbish 23:30 MTDiscord We're using matterbridge to connect discord and IRC and twitch and ingame chat. Will that help? 23:30 MTDiscord Which i don't know if libera even allows (max users per ip and all that) 23:30 MTDiscord Due to the ... talkative nature ... of the server we've run into somekind of ratelimiter with matrix though 23:30 MTDiscord And also, managing a ton of fake irc users is just a pain 23:31 MTDiscord Not to mention if evey discord user were to speak at some point, you'd end up with thousands of bridged users 23:32 Desour well, they could time out after a day or so 23:32 MTDiscord Perhaps 23:34 MTDiscord It would be rather odd for users to randomly join irc and somehow know what's being discussed, and then time out eventually 23:35 MTDiscord But it is a method 23:35 MTDiscord maybe I'll switch to Matrix if Discord runs out of investor cash before it solves the lack of profitability 23:36 MTDiscord Pretty sure discord makes enough between nitro, server boosting, and merch 23:40 MTDiscord maybe I know they still weren't making a profit in the beginning of 2022 but a lot has changed since then