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skunky3 |
sfan5, thanks for the info, i dont really know how to do much with that but will look into it sometime |
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Yad |
wallabra: Yeah there are a bunch of games which could benefit from that, especially Dokimi's Exile, on which I'm something of a developer. |
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Yad |
wallabra: because there we have a new character name generated each time re-spawn |
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Krock |
https://i.redd.it/6h69q8qp6jd91.jpg |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> hahaha |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> this was posted in the minetest discord server a while back |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> what's funny is not only how it starts with one but how there's an assumedly off-by-one error at the end as well |
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Goobax[m]1 |
AFCM tes la |
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Whanake |
Hey guys! I just found out about this project from AntVenom's video, and I am so ashamed I have only just found out about this project! I use a 100% open-source workflow/environment for music producing and most of my content creation, so to find out about this incredible FOSS project is such a godsend! |
| 11:01 |
ecraven |
hey ;) I get hangs and ultimately crashes on Batocera, using the flatpack of minetest, with some warnings about the i915 driver... I've tried turning down the graphics settings, but that just makes it take 1 minute instead of 15 seconds to crash :-/ anything I can do about this? or do I just have to get a better GPU |
| 11:11 |
MTDiscord |
<!~ ? Λtlantλs~!> Hi, It's weird, Minetest is very light, I even run it on intel atom, maybe you can send a picture of the crash if you run it with the terminal |
| 11:12 |
MTDiscord |
<!~ ? Λtlantλs~!> Welcome Whanake, better late than never ! |
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definitelya |
Atlantas: or post debug.txt |
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MTDiscord |
<!~ ? Λtlantλs~!> Yes also ^^ |
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Goobax[m]1 |
cc |
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sfan5 |
<GreenXenith> all I need is a blank func yeah? <- you absolute do need more than a stub |
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[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: HUD: Fix wrong minimum scale since 051181f c14b753 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/c14b7536a460899701f7694dbf95225a39307b51 (2022-07-31T12:57:19Z) |
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[git] rollerozxa -> minetest/minetest: Fix Android blank screen (#12604) de509d0 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/de509d05e629566daa6953b4845077e8ad07d98a (2022-07-31T13:18:04Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] jeremyshannon -> minetest/minetest: Apply NetBSD string conversion workaround to OpenBSD as well (#12618) 95d7fcb https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/95d7fcb9499d7f51a660847a5b5671925206883f (2022-07-31T13:18:19Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] grorp -> minetest/minetest: Fix rotation of falling facedir nodes (#12587) 70b71c5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/70b71c501332521b05173bc8e1d505720d0187c5 (2022-07-31T13:18:29Z) |
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Yigidoo |
Hello |
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rubenwardy |
hi |
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Yigidoo |
I really don't understand what Minetest is about |
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Yigidoo |
like what is different from MC? |
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MTDiscord |
<TMcSquared> It’s a game engine. A baseline for content creation rather than being an actual game. |
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rubenwardy |
(they've left) |
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MTDiscord |
<TMcSquared> Ah well I tried XD |
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arielaw[m] |
What would be a straightforward way to get a handle to the "current" player? Actually, does the concept of "current player" even makes sense in multiplayer worlds? |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> depends on what you want to do, if you're doing it in a globalstep or after function you'd iterate over get_connected_players() |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> otherwise for e.g. node and item callbacks there may be a player argument is a handle of the relevant player if applicable |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> s/is a handle/, which is a handle/g |
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rubenwardy |
arielaw[m]: there is no current player, mods are multiplayer by default |
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rubenwardy |
mods run on the server-side. Even in singleplayer (the server only allows one player to join) |
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rubenwardy |
As Rol said, you're often passed a name or player objectref in a callback |
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rubenwardy |
so that's the "current" player in that context |
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rubenwardy |
but you can also use `minetest.get_connected_player()` |
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sfan5 |
this sounds like advice the modding book should have |
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MTDiscord |
<MisterE> /s/minetest.get_connected_players() |
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rubenwardy |
yeah, working that book this weekend |
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arielaw[m] |
Ahh that makes sense! Thanks guys |
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Yad |
rubenwardy : I'm struggling a bit with getting started using GreenXenith 's lua voxel area entities mod... I followed the instructions from the mod's `README.md`, see: https://pastebin.com/zN9aYNER |
| 17:26 |
ecraven |
MTDiscord: it seems to be a problem specifically with the GPU, cpu and memory are fine |
| 17:26 |
ecraven |
I'll try to get some decent sort of log output, this is all running the flatpack inside batocera, I need to find my way around there... |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Not sure why you keep asking ruben ? |
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rubenwardy |
:D |
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ecraven |
!~ ? Λtlantλs~! not sure how to actually mention you by name ;) |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Yad: I suspect there's a vector conflict with the new version |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Hmm.. or not |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Oh duh |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Yad: change your variable name. I need to fix the example |
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[git] waxtatect -> minetest/minetest: Translated using Weblate (French) a4b1e0d https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/a4b1e0d124bcaaa4a052648914e5e7f9032379d7 (2022-07-31T17:35:57Z) |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: Hmm, I'm still getting .`/mods/lvae/init.lua:236: attempt to index a nil value` when I change the variable name. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> 236? That line has nothing on it |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: For me line 236 is `return minetest.add_entity(pos, "lvae:lvae"):get_luaentity()` |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> is your version modified? |
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Yad |
Must be. I think I removed the blank lines between functions. Sorry, I'll get a fresh copy from your repo. |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: `/mods/lvae/init.lua:241: attempt to index a nil value` |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Thats better |
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Yad |
:D |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Not that I know why its happening |
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Yad |
heheh |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: I'm using the thing where I'm using your mod as a dependency of my mod. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I just did it as a //lua command and it worked fine |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Are you overwriting the lvae or LVAE variable anywhere? |
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Yad |
I'll give that a try, thanks. :) |
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Yad |
I don't think I am. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I would recommend print(dump(lvae, LVAE)) |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> er |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> print(dump(lvae), dump(LVAE)) |
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MinetestBot |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: Yeah `minetest.register_on_joinplayer(function(player) minetest.chat_send_all(dump(lvae), dump(LVAE)) end)` prints `nil` |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> on both? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> actually lvae should be nil |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> LVAE is the only external facing method |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> lvae is an entity prototype, LVAE is supposed to return the object itself |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Yad: chat_send_all only takes one param |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> print takes any |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> So chat send wont show your dump(LVAE) |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Its more important to find out if LVAE is nil or not |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: Hmm, are you saying minetest.print exists? I don't think it does. |
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Yad |
Either way, I've simply separated into two chat_send_all calls, and with dump(lvae) I get `nil` and with dump(LVAE) I get `<function>` in the chat. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Yad: No, I mean print |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> The lua function |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> it sends output to the terminal |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> But anyway, that means LVAE does in fact exist |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Next id try testing it in a vanilla MTG world |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: Ah yes, apparently print() works it simply puts quotation marks around the output |
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Yad |
But doesn't seem to like the double parameters either I had to use two print calls to get "nil" and "function" instead of just "nil" |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: Ohhh, does LVAE depend on anything from Minetest Game? Because I started with a blank game. There's basically nothing in this game but the bare minimum. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Yad: It doesnt, but I know it works there |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I simply dont trust your "blank game", since I cant see it |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: A fair point, indeed. Similar to a checksum. :) |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: And your mod is unavailable on ContentDB, correct? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Correct |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: So is your use-case having me put the mod in the mods folder for all games? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Yes |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> And testing it with a test mod |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: Where do I put the print command? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> in a mod |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> but |
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Yad |
Ahha |
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Yad |
the test mod, i see what you mean |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> not much reason to print, we know it exists |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> better to just test the function itself |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> like actually spawning the LVAE |
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Yad |
okay :) |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: I get `-!- Invalid command: LVAE({x` |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Did you depend on it in the test mod? |
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Yad |
I didn't make a test mod, because you said just run the command. But, I don't think there's a chat command in your mod. |
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Yad |
So I'll have to call this from the test mod. |
| 21:11 |
Yad |
Which is probably what you were trying to tell me. xD |
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Yad |
To just skip the print part. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> actually I do have a test command |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I dont remember if its still in the mod though |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> maybe not |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: Well your zone-of-control (known codebase, i.e. Minetest Game) seems to be working more as expected |
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Yad |
Instead of just `<function>` I get the whole bunch of lua-entity table data |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> There are no MTG deps so this is odd |
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Yad |
Indeed. |
| 21:18 |
Yad |
So I suppose I shall be experimenting with your mod using Minetest Game for the time being. :) |
| 21:22 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Yad: On 241 in your game version of lvae, could you try separating the get_luaentity from the add_entity |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> like saving add_entity to a variable, and returning var:get_luaent |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: Sure, happy to help with debugging :) |
| 21:24 |
Yad |
Changing `return minetest.add_entity(pos, "lvae:lvae"):get_luaentity()` into `local this_entity = minetest.add_entity(pos, "lvae:lvae") return this_entity:get_luaentity()` |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> cool |
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Yad |
Yeah that modification to the code still outputs `nil` and `<function>` without a function body |
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Yad |
I mean without a lua-entity table |
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Yad |
GreenXenith |
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Yad |
It's difficult to say what I might have done to cause that. |
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Yad |
But it does seem very odd since there are no Minetest Game dependencies. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Sorry what? |
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Yad |
I'm saying I get the same results as before. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Can you try running it? |
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Yad |
I did. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I want to know which line it crashes on |
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Yad |
It doesn't crash anymore, it just produces an empty lua entity? |
| 21:29 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> in your game |
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Yad |
Correct. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> so now it works?.. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> just changing those 2 lines all of a sudden made it work? |
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Yad |
In Minetest Game it works well, but in my game it puts `nil` and `<function>` in the chat. |
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Yad |
Could there be some basic dependency such as in the mapgen aliases? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Ok I dont mean the chat thing |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> That debug isnt useful any more |
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Yad |
Indeed. :) |
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Yad |
afk |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Yad: When you get back, I would like to know if spawning a LVAE still crashes in your game. |
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aidalgol |
I'm getting errors on the console log about the sound manager being unable to find menu theme sounds. Where should "minetest_game/menu/theme" come from, because it's not in the minetest_game repo? |
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Yad |
GreenXenith: I don't think it does, but I don't feel like I have enough control to speak scientifically. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Does running LVAE(pos) still crash like it did before? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> (on your game I mean |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> ) |
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Yad |
I don't think so, but would you like me to make a private GitHub repo so you can see what I'm doing? |
