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wsor4035 |
something like that :P |
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AntumDeluge |
:) |
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wsor4035 |
(not related to approval at all) but https://content.minetest.net/packages/AntumDeluge/server_shop/ what is the point of compared to any other shop mod that provides a admin vendor/admin settings for a vendor? |
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AntumDeluge |
I hadn't come across a shop that I liked, so I just made my own for my kids' server. Submitting it in case others might like it. |
| 00:05 |
AntumDeluge |
I believe all other shops that I looked at have a limited inventory as well. |
| 00:05 |
AntumDeluge |
Limited as in only a certain number of unique items can be added to the shop. |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> ? heh |
| 00:05 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> fair enough |
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AntumDeluge |
But I may be wrong, I didn't examine the other shops super-thoroughly. |
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AntumDeluge |
Looking over the shop that comes with the currency mod, I'm reminded that I didn't find one that let me set the item I wanted in exchange, or currency, without actually having one in my inventory. But again, I just may not have researched deep enough. |
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Sven_vB |
I'm working on a login manager for MT 5.4.0 on linux. I use --password-file for giving the password. Is there a way to tell MT that I intend to register a new account? The "wrong password" message should change to "Username already in use". If it's available, I'd like to skip the confirm password dialog, or reduce it to an "accept the rules" dialog if necessary. |
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AntumDeluge |
local foo={bar={}}; core.write_json(foo); -- this outputs '{"bar":null}'. Is there any way to get it to write '{"bar":[]}'? |
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AntumDeluge |
I've tried core.write_json(foo):gsub("\"bar\":null", "\"bar\":[]"), but for some reason it appends a "1" to it. |
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AntumDeluge |
*appends a "1" to the end of the line. |
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AntumDeluge |
Nevermind, I got it figured out by storing it in a local variable first. |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> ATTENTION A number of people probably read about the hullabaloo going on with Freenode staff. including a leaked draft of a resignation letter. I just learned from Fuchs, it's official now. resignations incoming. The "leaked draft" is no longer a draft. https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> idk what kind of timetable they're looking at, but there it is. |
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Ingar |
allright time to install my own IRC server |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> the chat network mentioned at the end of the letter is likely where "Freenode" is going, but it is not publically-accessible yet. They're still working on it. |
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Ingar |
VanessaE: it is somewhat ironic though you post those links from Discord ;) |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> heh yeah I suppose |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> I've just come to like DC more than plain IRC, go figure ? |
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entuland |
I like'em both but IRC still has its charm <3 |
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sfan5 |
hope you have set it's UI to "IRC mode" at least |
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sfan5 |
its'* |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> I do ? |
| 09:57 |
Ingar |
from a technical point of view, discord aint bad, fixes a numver of IRC's shortcomings |
| 09:57 |
Ingar |
on the other hand, it's yet-another-closed-source-chat |
| 09:57 |
Ingar |
which will probably die when the next big thing comes along |
| 09:57 |
Ingar |
I totally assume discord already sells all their userdata |
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MTDiscord |
<PiMonkey> The amount of stuff nowadays that probably sells data means unless you really try its likely unavoidable xD |
| 10:01 |
Ingar |
my biggest issue with discord is the fact it's not an open protocal |
| 10:01 |
Ingar |
*protocoal |
| 10:01 |
Ingar |
oh well |
| 10:01 |
Ingar |
that word |
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Ingar |
(I wish I could crawl back into bed ;) ) |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> protocol* |
| 10:04 |
Ingar |
thanks! |
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luk3yx |
Oh my |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> you forgot <voice="George Takei"> ? |
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hlqkj |
has anyone else received that message from -jess- of the freenode staff? i have just joined #freenode and seems like an earthquake is shacking the community, with a possible drastic outcome -- what will be of #minetest and related channels? |
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rubenwardy |
This is being discussed currently |
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sfan5 |
and don't expect a conclusive answer within hours |
| 12:34 |
rubenwardy |
Yeah |
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hlqkj |
oh okay! i don't, was just surprised no one was telling nothing here :) |
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MTDiscord |
<Kimapr> i also saw it |
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jess |
hey hlqkj, that's me |
| 12:50 |
hlqkj |
i see |
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hlqkj |
sorry, i got alarmed probably bc i heard nothing of all this till 20mins ago. seems the thing has been going on for some time now, maybe even already discussed here |
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pgimeno |
https://kline.sh/ |
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pgimeno |
I'm concerned about my data and will be deleting it irrespectively of whether I stay or not |
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pgimeno |
deleted, but according to https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_461 I'm late to the deletion |
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erlehmann |
crypto bros ruin fucking everything |
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sfan5 |
pgimeno: even if you had done it yesterday I'd expect account data to still exist in several backups |
| 14:30 |
erlehmann |
<Ingar> from a technical point of view, discord aint bad, fixes a numver of IRC's shortcomings |
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erlehmann |
Ingar, https://cadence.moe/blog/2020-06-06-why-you-shouldnt-trust-discord |
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erlehmann |
Ingar, discord is hilariously buggy, read that article |
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Ingar |
erlehmann: I mean, as a concept. evidently it can't be trusted. it is closed source. |
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erlehmann |
Ingar i don't get what is nice as a concept |
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Ingar |
erlehmann: I can paste images! |
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Ingar |
erlehmann: I've been on IRC for 25 years now, I'll keep using it until someone prys it from my cold dead hands |
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erlehmann |
Ingar well technically it is a link to an image and not only do irc clients support that, but also xmpp has a more privacy friendly version of that |
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Ingar |
erlehmann: tbh, I do run IRC in a screen session on a VPS. No images there |
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Soni |
riff_IRC: we're moving to libera now |
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riff_IRC |
ok |
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Soni |
(this "we" includes minetest, incidentally. but yeah we already deleted our nickserv and whatnot.) |
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pgimeno |
sfan5: doesn't mean the backups are in the hands of the new company |
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specing |
hi |
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specing |
Are the cheat-client-we-should-not-mention devs contactable via a non-proprietary/closed-source chat (IRC, Matrix, XMPP?) |
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erlehmann |
specing, for dragonfire it might be EliasFleckenstei – for waspsaliva it is cora |
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erlehmann |
on irc here |
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sfan5 |
you can probably @ them here and tell them to join irc, if they're one discord |
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erlehmann |
i think |
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sfan5 |
(discord bridge) |
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erlehmann |
specing do you have a new cheat? |
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Kelticfox |
bloody hell, this place still exists |
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erlehmann |
Kelticfox not for long i guess |
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Kelticfox |
hahahaha |
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Kelticfox |
haven't been in here for years |
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specing |
erlehmann, sfan5 : oh, It hadn't occured to me to try to /whois their nicknames in commits |
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erlehmann |
specing, i assume you mean https://github.com/EliasFleckenstein03/dragonfireclient |
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specing |
erlehmann: well, yes and no: I have my own "cheat" client |
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erlehmann |
so have i |
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erlehmann |
but it is pretty basic |
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Kelticfox |
seeing if there is anyone I still know that was here when I had to deal with all the drama |
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specing |
and my own CSMs, but I'm thinking about rebasing upon waspsalive / dfc |
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Sokomine |
there are still a lot of great servers out there to enjoy :-) so fire up your mt :-) |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> guys, please move all chat to irc.libera.chat #minetest. |
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rubenwardy |
are we officially doing it now? |
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sfan5 |
it's not even ready |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> sfan5 it's already sorted and working. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Do you have logging? And perms? and bots? |
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rubenwardy |
we have ownership of the channels. The staff are still overloaded with requests |
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rubenwardy |
Logging and bots needs sfan to change configs |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> well idk who gets to move the bots ? |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> (come to think of it, I guess *I* have to move ShadowBot since ShadowNinja is gone as usual |
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sfan5 |
I'd give it at least one more day for things to settle down |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> ohh ffs, there's too much crap to change to move ShadowBot |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> why does ShadowNinja always have to pick complicated shit. |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> puts it back up for now. |
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MTDiscord |
<VanessaE> let HIM move it. |
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Kelticfox |
Ah, there's people I know! |
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pgimeno |
I'm working on #xxxx support, when it's ready I'll keep it until ShadowBot is migrated |
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riff-IRC |
'ello, any decision re: moving to libera? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> celeron55 the channels have already been duplicated there so i guess basically you can vote for it by joining there |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> there refering to libera |
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LoneWolfHT |
I'm not too active here so I figure I'll just make a full switch to Libera to save me the trouble of keeping an eye on the state of things |
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