Time Nick Message 00:00 wsor4035 something like that :P 00:00 AntumDeluge :) 00:02 wsor4035 (not related to approval at all) but https://content.minetest.net/packages/AntumDeluge/server_shop/ what is the point of compared to any other shop mod that provides a admin vendor/admin settings for a vendor? 00:04 AntumDeluge I hadn't come across a shop that I liked, so I just made my own for my kids' server. Submitting it in case others might like it. 00:05 AntumDeluge I believe all other shops that I looked at have a limited inventory as well. 00:05 AntumDeluge Limited as in only a certain number of unique items can be added to the shop. 00:05 MTDiscord ? heh 00:05 MTDiscord fair enough 00:06 AntumDeluge But I may be wrong, I didn't examine the other shops super-thoroughly. 00:19 AntumDeluge Looking over the shop that comes with the currency mod, I'm reminded that I didn't find one that let me set the item I wanted in exchange, or currency, without actually having one in my inventory. But again, I just may not have researched deep enough. 00:21 Sven_vB I'm working on a login manager for MT 5.4.0 on linux. I use --password-file for giving the password. Is there a way to tell MT that I intend to register a new account? The "wrong password" message should change to "Username already in use". If it's available, I'd like to skip the confirm password dialog, or reduce it to an "accept the rules" dialog if necessary. 02:20 AntumDeluge local foo={bar={}}; core.write_json(foo); -- this outputs '{"bar":null}'. Is there any way to get it to write '{"bar":[]}'? 02:22 AntumDeluge I've tried core.write_json(foo):gsub("\"bar\":null", "\"bar\":[]"), but for some reason it appends a "1" to it. 02:23 AntumDeluge *appends a "1" to the end of the line. 02:27 AntumDeluge Nevermind, I got it figured out by storing it in a local variable first. 09:00 MTDiscord ATTENTION A number of people probably read about the hullabaloo going on with Freenode staff. including a leaked draft of a resignation letter. I just learned from Fuchs, it's official now. resignations incoming. The "leaked draft" is no longer a draft. https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt 09:01 MTDiscord idk what kind of timetable they're looking at, but there it is. 09:02 Ingar allright time to install my own IRC server 09:09 MTDiscord the chat network mentioned at the end of the letter is likely where "Freenode" is going, but it is not publically-accessible yet. They're still working on it. 09:52 Ingar VanessaE: it is somewhat ironic though you post those links from Discord ;) 09:53 MTDiscord heh yeah I suppose 09:53 MTDiscord I've just come to like DC more than plain IRC, go figure ? 09:55 entuland I like'em both but IRC still has its charm <3 09:55 sfan5 hope you have set it's UI to "IRC mode" at least 09:55 sfan5 its'* 09:55 MTDiscord I do ? 09:57 Ingar from a technical point of view, discord aint bad, fixes a numver of IRC's shortcomings 09:57 Ingar on the other hand, it's yet-another-closed-source-chat 09:57 Ingar which will probably die when the next big thing comes along 09:57 Ingar I totally assume discord already sells all their userdata 09:59 MTDiscord The amount of stuff nowadays that probably sells data means unless you really try its likely unavoidable xD 10:01 Ingar my biggest issue with discord is the fact it's not an open protocal 10:01 Ingar *protocoal 10:01 Ingar oh well 10:01 Ingar that word 10:01 Ingar (I wish I could crawl back into bed ;) ) 10:03 MTDiscord protocol* 10:04 Ingar thanks! 10:08 luk3yx Oh my 10:09 MTDiscord you forgot ? 12:32 hlqkj has anyone else received that message from -jess- of the freenode staff? i have just joined #freenode and seems like an earthquake is shacking the community, with a possible drastic outcome -- what will be of #minetest and related channels? 12:33 rubenwardy This is being discussed currently 12:34 sfan5 and don't expect a conclusive answer within hours 12:34 rubenwardy Yeah 12:34 hlqkj oh okay! i don't, was just surprised no one was telling nothing here :) 12:47 MTDiscord i also saw it 12:50 jess hey hlqkj, that's me 12:50 hlqkj i see 12:51 hlqkj sorry, i got alarmed probably bc i heard nothing of all this till 20mins ago. seems the thing has been going on for some time now, maybe even already discussed here 13:41 pgimeno https://kline.sh/ 13:45 pgimeno I'm concerned about my data and will be deleting it irrespectively of whether I stay or not 14:16 pgimeno deleted, but according to https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_461 I'm late to the deletion 14:17 erlehmann crypto bros ruin fucking everything 14:18 sfan5 pgimeno: even if you had done it yesterday I'd expect account data to still exist in several backups 14:30 erlehmann from a technical point of view, discord aint bad, fixes a numver of IRC's shortcomings 14:30 erlehmann Ingar, https://cadence.moe/blog/2020-06-06-why-you-shouldnt-trust-discord 14:30 erlehmann Ingar, discord is hilariously buggy, read that article 14:39 Ingar erlehmann: I mean, as a concept. evidently it can't be trusted. it is closed source. 14:39 erlehmann Ingar i don't get what is nice as a concept 14:40 Ingar erlehmann: I can paste images! 14:41 Ingar erlehmann: I've been on IRC for 25 years now, I'll keep using it until someone prys it from my cold dead hands 14:41 erlehmann Ingar well technically it is a link to an image and not only do irc clients support that, but also xmpp has a more privacy friendly version of that 14:44 Ingar erlehmann: tbh, I do run IRC in a screen session on a VPS. No images there 16:38 Soni riff_IRC: we're moving to libera now 16:38 riff_IRC ok 16:48 Soni (this "we" includes minetest, incidentally. but yeah we already deleted our nickserv and whatnot.) 17:12 pgimeno sfan5: doesn't mean the backups are in the hands of the new company 18:53 specing hi 18:54 specing Are the cheat-client-we-should-not-mention devs contactable via a non-proprietary/closed-source chat (IRC, Matrix, XMPP?) 18:58 erlehmann specing, for dragonfire it might be EliasFleckenstei – for waspsaliva it is cora 18:58 erlehmann on irc here 18:58 sfan5 you can probably @ them here and tell them to join irc, if they're one discord 18:58 erlehmann i think 18:59 sfan5 (discord bridge) 18:59 erlehmann specing do you have a new cheat? 19:00 Kelticfox bloody hell, this place still exists 19:00 erlehmann Kelticfox not for long i guess 19:01 Kelticfox hahahaha 19:01 Kelticfox haven't been in here for years 19:01 specing erlehmann, sfan5 : oh, It hadn't occured to me to try to /whois their nicknames in commits 19:01 erlehmann specing, i assume you mean https://github.com/EliasFleckenstein03/dragonfireclient 19:01 specing erlehmann: well, yes and no: I have my own "cheat" client 19:01 erlehmann so have i 19:01 erlehmann but it is pretty basic 19:01 Kelticfox seeing if there is anyone I still know that was here when I had to deal with all the drama 19:01 specing and my own CSMs, but I'm thinking about rebasing upon waspsalive / dfc 19:16 Sokomine there are still a lot of great servers out there to enjoy :-) so fire up your mt :-) 19:34 MTDiscord guys, please move all chat to irc.libera.chat #minetest. 19:34 rubenwardy are we officially doing it now? 19:34 sfan5 it's not even ready 19:34 MTDiscord sfan5 it's already sorted and working. 19:35 MTDiscord Do you have logging? And perms? and bots? 19:35 rubenwardy we have ownership of the channels. The staff are still overloaded with requests 19:35 rubenwardy Logging and bots needs sfan to change configs 19:35 MTDiscord well idk who gets to move the bots ? 19:37 MTDiscord (come to think of it, I guess *I* have to move ShadowBot since ShadowNinja is gone as usual 19:38 sfan5 I'd give it at least one more day for things to settle down 19:41 MTDiscord ohh ffs, there's too much crap to change to move ShadowBot 19:41 MTDiscord why does ShadowNinja always have to pick complicated shit. 19:41 MTDiscord puts it back up for now. 19:41 MTDiscord let HIM move it. 19:44 Kelticfox Ah, there's people I know! 19:51 pgimeno I'm working on #xxxx support, when it's ready I'll keep it until ShadowBot is migrated 23:06 riff-IRC 'ello, any decision re: moving to libera? 23:10 MTDiscord celeron55 the channels have already been duplicated there so i guess basically you can vote for it by joining there 23:10 MTDiscord there refering to libera 23:33 LoneWolfHT I'm not too active here so I figure I'll just make a full switch to Libera to save me the trouble of keeping an eye on the state of things