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[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Schematic: Properly deal with before/after node resolving and documen… 0571991 https://git.io/JmyXl (2021-03-20T12:02:15Z) |
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tech_exorcist |
what's the fastest way to mine obsidian? |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> Oredetect? (joking) |
16:50 |
Krock |
node replacement tool |
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Krock |
or TNT |
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tech_exorcist |
ok, thanks :-) |
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tech_exorcist |
I'll stick to steel pickaxes for now |
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owain_ |
BuckarooBanzai Ur server is run by out of control children who's aim seems to be maintaining an environment where sticking up for yourself is not permitted. if those four want a server all to them self's why make it public. |
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timdorohin |
tech_exorcist: fastest way is not to mine it at all, but to cast it into structures |
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timdorohin |
if you need it to build something, of course |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> Really? Owain_ is complain here now after getting banned from all pandora box platforms? ? |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> Remember 56i? ... |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> Yeah....seems like a repeat or worse |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> Hopefully not worse |
17:13 |
VanessaE |
owain_: this isn't the place for server drama. take it to the appropriate chat or to /msg |
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owain_ |
well Ruggila is a CYBER bullying dictator who bans whoever she wants |
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VanessaE |
tough shit. |
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TommyTreasure |
LMAO sorry... my bad |
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VanessaE |
take it to a more appropriate chat |
17:19 |
Hawk777 |
Hi all! I’m trying to figure out how much program code I can load into a single Mesecons Luacontroller. I’m experimenting, but it’s kind of slow going because copying and pasting doesn’t work very well (sometimes pressing Ctrl+V inserts the thing that used to be in the clipboard rather than the last thing I copied, and sometimes it just inserts a random letter and a few tabs) so I figured I would ask if anyone knows the ex |
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Hawk777 |
nswer. AFAICT from looking at the Mesecons code there isn’t a limit in there, but is there a maximum string length for a field in a formspec, or perhaps a maximum string length in a node metadata field? |
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owain_ |
VanessaE thats not a nice way to a child |
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owain_ |
*speak |
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VanessaE |
... |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> owain_: we will see when the fact is revealed in a way that is less biased to a single side |
17:20 |
VanessaE |
on the internet no one knows if you're a child and no one needs to know. |
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owain_ |
nobody listen there they banned me on all pandora box channels so how can i speak about it there |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> Why did you get banned though? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> you could you know, private message the owner? novel concept i know |
17:21 |
VanessaE |
obviously you can't. so try sending a polite email |
17:21 |
VanessaE |
or give up and move on to some other server. |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> also ^ |
17:21 |
owain_ |
VanessaE nobody knows so mind ur language |
17:22 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> ?♂️ |
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VanessaE |
... |
17:23 |
VanessaE |
as far as I know, this chat has no "family friendly" rule. |
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VanessaE |
so if you can't deal with a little harsh language, go somewhere else. |
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sfan5 |
Hawk777: I wouldn't assume more than 64k to fit into it, however neither formspec fields nor node metadata have such a restriction |
17:24 |
Hawk777 |
I see. So far my experiments seem to be pointing somewhere around 256k fitting, but not sure where exactly the limit comes from. |
17:25 |
Hawk777 |
Just trying to decide whether to architect a large system with many Luacontrollers or just one. |
17:25 |
VanessaE |
Hawk777: dare I ask what the hell you're doing that pushes a formspec string to 256k? ;) |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> Porting an OS to luacontrollers? |
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VanessaE |
or a LuaC's code space to that |
17:25 |
VanessaE |
y5nw: maybe he's porting emacs ;) |
17:25 |
owain_ |
VanessaE: "go somewhere else", well... maybe it's just u or maybe u speak for the whole community? Idk.. |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> Eclipse |
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Hawk777 |
Well, at 25 characters per line, 10,000 LOC is around 260k. 10kLOC is *not* a huge program. |
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Hawk777 |
Normally one would split it up into many files, but LuaControllers don’t give that option, so :D |
17:26 |
hlqkj |
about that, @cheapie: loved your last update with advanced touchscreens, yet would be nice to have the formspec_escape exposed to the luaC environment |
17:26 |
VanessaE |
you see that, owain_ ? it means I DO speak for the community as a whole, from time to time. |
17:26 |
hlqkj |
so far i had to use a for loop to replace chars 0\ |
17:27 |
VanessaE |
(or at least for this chat) |
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TommyTreasure |
ah, the prestigious green dot award. sorry again, couldn't resist |
17:27 |
owain_ |
Ah so ur all scumbags then! |
17:27 |
VanessaE |
*facepalm* |
17:28 |
MTDiscord |
<y5nw> owain_: anyway, what's the situation? |
17:28 |
owain_ |
PandoraBox is the situation |
17:28 |
MTDiscord |
<y5nw> I mean, I will look at it after dinner |
17:28 |
TommyTreasure |
sticking my nose where it doesn't belong, once again.... but..... |
17:29 |
Hawk777 |
I suspect ~10kLOC is probably enough for what I want to do though. |
17:29 |
TommyTreasure |
those that get banned think the admins are terrible, while those that follow the rules, love their admins and moderators |
17:29 |
owain_ |
banning me for no reason all i did was say "/me mayby noob1 was right" |
17:29 |
TommyTreasure |
owain_, this is not the forum to discus server/admin/banning issues |
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TommyTreasure |
discuss* |
17:30 |
MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> Something tells me it was likely more than that, and something else tells me you could appeal on the forums |
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owain_ |
fudge u all |
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owain_ was kicked by VanessaE: owain_ |
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VanessaE |
Hawk777: re: multiple files, why not use multiple LuaC's with some comms between then? |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> orwain_: No thanks, I should eat some real food first |
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Hawk777 |
Well, that’s exactly what I was trying to decide. It’s a bit more annoying to do that, but if I hit the program size limit I’d have no choice and would have to do that. But I’d rather not do it for no reason. |
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VanessaE |
anyone giving odds on how long it takes him to either A. realize that was a kick and not a ban, or B. starts PMing people here to bitch about it ? :) |
17:32 |
TommyTreasure |
oh you nasty moderator!!! LMAO |
17:32 |
VanessaE |
BOFH, baby :) |
17:32 |
Hawk777 |
BOFH? You didn’t electrocute him AFAIK :D |
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TommyTreasure |
i just love the 'you banned me for no reason', then when asked the reason on their screen, its 'i don't know' |
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TommyTreasure |
so when you look it up, you find things like 'biggest troll her in ages' |
17:33 |
VanessaE |
Hawk777: the day is still young :) |
17:33 |
TommyTreasure |
here* |
17:34 |
MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> Hawk777: If you're on Linux, you can always select the text and use Shift+Insert to use the old X11 clipboard (which basically types it out iirc so should work) |
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Hawk777 |
I am, but Shift+Insert doesn’t seem to do anything in Minetest. |
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Hawk777 |
It inserts neither the selection buffer nor the clipboard buffer. |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> Huh |
17:35 |
Hawk777 |
I generally edit with vim so I have easy access to both buffers, with "* or "+ respectively. |
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VanessaE |
only ctrl-V ever works for me, on linux, and it has that same "paste old, then current" bug as you mentioned. |
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TommyTreasure |
just a quick thought, but maybe try a different version of your client. i've noticed copy and paste issues with my 5.4.0 windows client |
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VanessaE |
middle click paste doesn't work |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> what on earth is MT doing |
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Hawk777 |
Yeah, middle-click doesn’t do anything here either. |
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VanessaE |
it's irrlicht being stupid as I understand itg |
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VanessaE |
-g |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> Can always copy twice |
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VanessaE |
AND sometimes the copy doesn't work (Or the paste doesn't), if MT or irrlicht doesn't like where it came from |
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Hawk777 |
Copying more than once doesn’t seem to help. Only pasting more than once. |
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VanessaE |
like if I copy from Chrome, it will not paste at all |
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Hawk777 |
Sigh, flip tables, grumble about Irrlicht, business as usual :/ |
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VanessaE |
but if I paste the copied text into a terminal or geany or sth, then recopy it, it will paste into MT then |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> Remind me why it's the application's job to handle the system clipboard? |
17:38 |
VanessaE |
it isn't :P |
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Hawk777 |
Anyway, thanks for the chat. I think I’ll go with a single LuaC initially—it’ll probably be enough space—and rework later if necessary. In case anyone is interested, I’m working on an autocrafting system which will store recipes, graph-search through them, and allow a single user request to potentially kick off multi-stage production with lots of Lua-controlled sorting tubes moving items into the relevant machines. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Mainmenu: Improve "Join Game" tab (#11078) 042131d https://git.io/Jm9Xz (2021-03-20T18:48:25Z) |
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tech_exorcist |
is it possible to get the raw materials out of a crafted/smelted tool? |
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tech_exorcist |
without third-party mods |
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tech_exorcist |
in Minetest Game |
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sfan5 |
nope |
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Krock |
/giveme |
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tech_exorcist |
Krock, I'm playing in a survival-ish world with damage enabled and creative mode disabled, so /giveme would be cheating :-) thanks anyway though |
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tech_exorcist |
<sfan5> nope | ok, thanks |
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tech_exorcist |
:-\ |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Serialize tool capabilities JSON without whitespace 531e7ef https://git.io/JmHLr (2021-03-20T21:06:17Z) |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> someone is demanding.....and your best served making issues on the repo |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> also, f5 shows you fps |