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DS-minetest |
I've found another reason to wish µ$oft windoze wouldn't exist, even though I don't need to use it: it still affects me https://github.com/Desour/minetest/runs/2081924088?check_suite_focus=true |
| 00:34 |
sfan5 |
why not use UUIDs instead of inventing your own |
| 00:34 |
sfan5 |
beside the point though |
| 00:38 |
DS-minetest |
128 might be too small |
| 00:38 |
DS-minetest |
s/128/128 bit/ |
| 00:39 |
sfan5 |
for what |
| 00:40 |
sfan5 |
are you concerned with collisions? |
| 00:40 |
DS-minetest |
yeah |
| 00:40 |
DS-minetest |
my plan: |
| 00:40 |
DS-minetest |
1. gain world dominion |
| 00:40 |
sfan5 |
idea: base part of the uuid on the current game time |
| 00:41 |
DS-minetest |
2. force everybody to make new objects in lua with a guid |
| 00:41 |
DS-minetest |
3. ... |
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DS-minetest |
4. profit |
| 00:41 |
sfan5 |
brilliant plan |
| 00:42 |
DS-minetest |
the game time is just another counter |
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sfan5 |
but it's a monotonic counter |
| 00:43 |
DS-minetest |
anyway, it doesn't really matter how you generate the numbers, does it? |
| 00:45 |
DS-minetest |
so anything is valid, and having no collisions even in extreme situations is a thing that is better to have and not need than to not have and need |
| 00:45 |
DivideByZero |
Vanessa: I've been getting this error on your dreambuilder_hotbar since you updated about 5 hours ago: https://0bin.net/paste/ENjY9n2N#FArqf0H5Ojfk3XLZLtyaZxABQbwlumNgCQ8+7HUpSjU |
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VanessaE |
damn it. |
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VanessaE |
I'll fix it asap |
| 00:58 |
VanessaE |
must be a copypaste error while working on dreambuilder game stuff |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
can anyone tell me where the ESC/Pause menu is defined? or rather, at exactly what point in the game are its colors picked up? |
| 01:00 |
DS-minetest |
the colors come from the formspec prepend |
| 01:01 |
VanessaE |
DivideByZero: https://pastebin.com/GaRtriRU replace init.lua with this and tell me if it works |
| 01:01 |
VanessaE |
DS-minetest: ok, thanks |
| 01:04 |
DivideByZero |
Ok, one moment Vanessa, and I'll report back. |
| 01:05 |
cheapie |
Heh, negative formspec versions are... interesting :P |
| 01:06 |
VanessaE |
interesting? |
| 01:07 |
cheapie |
(same results as with anything that's not an integer - but not 0 - 0 acts like 1) |
| 01:07 |
cheapie |
VanessaE: Default size, all elements crammed into the upper left corner, with a size of 0,0 for any elements that use a size. |
| 01:08 |
DS-minetest |
-1 is probably casted to 0xffff, as m_formspec_version is a u16 |
| 01:09 |
cheapie |
Version 4 (how this formspec is meant to look): https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20210310_190838.png |
| 01:09 |
cheapie |
What most garbage versions (-1, 3.5, "potato", "", etc.) give: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20210310_190849.png |
| 01:10 |
luk3yx |
VanessaE: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/75eb28b95994781d52eb2c09303b1cd04e32b6c5/src/client/game.cpp#L4097-L4232 |
| 01:11 |
cheapie |
DS-minetest: Yep, sure enough, formspec_version[65535] causes it to render like 4, but 65536 makes it act like 0/1 again. |
| 01:11 |
luk3yx |
Oh your question was already answered |
| 01:11 |
cheapie |
(and 65540 gives correct rendering again, and so on) |
| 01:12 |
DS-minetest |
yep, normal arithmetic modulo 2^16 |
| 01:13 |
cheapie |
That does however suggest that -1 isn't turning into 65535 though, as 65535 gets treated like 4. |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
DivideByZero: fixed in git |
| 01:16 |
DS-minetest |
weird |
| 01:20 |
numzero |
cheapie: 65535 remains 65535, but the comparison is like `version >= 4` in most places so there is no difference between 4, 5, ..., 65535 |
| 01:20 |
DivideByZero |
Vanessa: That seems to have fixed it. Thanks for quick fix. I'll update from git now and make sure it works for you also. |
| 01:21 |
VanessaE |
yw |
| 01:21 |
cheapie |
numzero: Yeah, that part makes sense - I'm mostly just curious why the negative/garbage versions act the way they do. |
| 01:24 |
DS-minetest |
ah, there's a is_number check. |
| 01:24 |
DivideByZero |
My server is slow to startup. I noticed skinsdb takes 13 seconds to load through all the skins. |
| 01:24 |
DS-minetest |
so, this is why it doesn't parse the negative numbers |
| 01:24 |
DS-minetest |
in formspec_version |
| 01:28 |
DivideByZero |
Vanessa: git version looks good now too. |
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VanessaE |
? |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
Hi all, got a bug report for aliveai: |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
https://justpaste.it/4tcdh |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
Running MT 5.3.0, not sure if upgrade will help |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> make a issue on the repo https://github.com/AiTechEye/aliveai |
| 04:08 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
I did. |
| 04:09 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
But I posted on IRC about it in the dev channel and they asked me to post it here instead :) |
| 04:09 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> yeah, i see that sorry |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
np |
| 04:09 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> this guy......does not use git |
| 04:09 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> well, in the usual sense |
| 04:09 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> so i cant even look at difs |
| 04:11 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> *correction, i can, its just a step longer |
| 04:12 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
neato. It's a cool mod, would like to have it working. Willing to offer my server up as guinea pig |
| 04:13 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
I probably should have mentioned that I turned off every other mod, like all of them, and ran nothing but aliveAI and all its associated mods (aliveai_aliens etc) and it still crashed |
| 04:14 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> do you have a way of replicating the error? |
| 04:14 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> >compatible with minetest 0.4.16 and newer (tested in 5.4-dev) this.......is odd |
| 04:16 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
Ya basically whenever we get attacked by a mob, there are a bunch of "rapid fire" hits on us, we die, and then the server crashes. Like every time |
| 04:17 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
It's like machine gun rapid fire - go from full health to dead in about 3 seconds |
| 04:17 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
That may be by design - there's some nasty mobs in there :) |
| 04:19 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> you could test 5.4, not sure if that would actually do anything |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
Ya that's what I'm working on |
| 04:20 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
Server is an older (18) version of Mint, so working on upgrading to 5.4 now |
| 04:21 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> seems to be 2 ways of fixing it, nil check(then do what?) or figure out why its getting nil |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
Ok I'm now upgraded to 5.4.0 and still got exactly the same crash |
| 04:35 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> not suprised |
| 04:37 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
The version of the mod I'm using is the latest from git |
| 04:39 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> do you actually want a fix, or just a dont crash my server till the maintainer patches it? |
| 04:40 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
yes :) |
| 04:40 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
I'll take either |
| 04:42 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> block comment out aliveai.searchobjects=function(self) (the whole function) and try adding below it aliveai.searchobjects=function(self) return end |
| 04:43 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> since it looks like at the start it checks a bunch of stuff, and if those conditions are meet it doesnt execute anything, so all your doing is making sure it never executes |
| 04:43 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> (im not at a computer where i can test that) |
| 04:43 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> not sure if that will break things further on in the mod or not |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
ok. Worth trying. Just a sec |
| 04:45 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
Is that in aliveai_threats? |
| 04:46 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> . /home/minetest/.minetest/mods/aliveai/aliveai/event.lua:600 its literally in your error message lol |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
hah. I thin kthere's a few files mentioned in there - just wanted to make sure |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
So I commented out the whole function and put this in: |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
aliveai.searchobjects=function(self) return end |
| 05:07 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
end is on another line |
| 05:08 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
getting /home/minetest/.minetest/mods/aliveai/aliveai/event.lua:590: unexpected symbol near '#' |
| 05:08 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
I'm a noob |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
Something stupid simple I know |
| 05:11 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
WAit. I was using #'s for comments. Bash habits |
| 05:12 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> oof |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> is it "working" now? |
| 05:12 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
lol What do I use for comments in lua? |
| 05:13 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
--[[ got it |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> and close with ]]-- |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
Ok it's "working" but now I don't seem to have any mobs |
| 05:18 |
Biggvs_Richardvs |
But it's not crashing with aliveai running now, so thank you |
| 05:19 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> "working" |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> does it have spawn eggs or something? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> or can you call /spawnentity mod:entityname |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
Not sure |
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Biggvs_Richardvs |
How could I tell? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> look in inventory? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> ofc aliveai cant register from a entity def itself |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> ?♂️ |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> that would make it to easy |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> try /spawnentity aliveai_ants:ant |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> seems to register them as modname:mobname |
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VanessaE |
although there appears to be no present need for it, is there a way to tell the client "here's a piece of text, cache it client-side and let me call upon it with some handle later"? like node metadata but without being tied to a node |
| 15:29 |
VanessaE |
I've been giving some thought to my revised UI code, since it did increase the formspec size a bit (not by much compared to before). I wouldn't mind shoring that up, juuuuust in case some dinosaur is still using dial-up :) |
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sfan5 |
no |
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sfan5 |
that sounds so specific that it could be solved by CSM |
| 15:29 |
sfan5 |
(once it's implement in an unspecified timeframe) |
| 15:29 |
sfan5 |
implemented* |
| 15:29 |
VanessaE |
well if SSCSM becomes a thing I suppose that would do the job |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
if I run into a dial-up user, I'll just tell them to get out of the 1990's ;) |
| 15:31 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> If you're worried about bandwidth, I did some experiments and looked into per-packet compression using stuff like zlib, lzo, etc. It would probably help a lot with formspecs ... but I found it only had like a 2% to 5% impact overall because block transfer dominated bandwidth. |
| 15:31 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> For all the trouble it'd entail, 5% doesn't seem worth it. |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE |
Warr": well it's just that I have this fleeting worry that the extra 2k of formspec data might negatively impact like, one person somewhere :P |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE |
though I suppose UI was already generating like 10k of it :P |
| 15:32 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I worry about network issues too, and there are people who play on cellular or satellite, which is basically the modern equivalent of dial-up (only somehow worse in some cases). |
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VanessaE |
haha |
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Conradish006 |
What is satellite? :P |
| 15:34 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Some users are so bandwidth-constrained that I'd considered tunneling UDP over TCP so I could get cross-packet compression, but unfortunately those networks are also the kind that have the worst packet loss so TCP meltdown would be a problem. |
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VanessaE |
well I guess since it's not really a problem (more a "could I do better?" thing) then I won't worry about it |
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Conradish006 |
I one time stayed at a place that had satellite internet, and the whole week it was stormy. |
| 15:35 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Satellite internet is a punishment for living too far from a city, where they charge you $75 a month for what 256k ISDN would have been like if the ISDN line had 2000ms latency, and with a 10GB monthly cap. |
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Conradish006 |
I tried to play MT once, but it wasn't happening. |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
Warr: oh G*d. no thanks :P |
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Conradish006 |
Even rural places here have fiber |
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VanessaE |
I'm out in the sticks and still get 200 Mbps down (12 or something up) on cable. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> The only reason HughesNet is legal in the USA is because the 8th amendment only applies to action by the government, not a private business. |
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Conradish006 |
We *have* fiber to our house, but we only have cable going inside. |
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VanessaE |
supposedly my ISP offers nearly[*] gigabit in my general region. dunno if that's fibre, or if it's available at my address |
| 15:38 |
VanessaE |
[*] nearly being like 950 Mbps or something |
| 15:38 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I live in low-density-suburbia/rural, about 30 minutes from the city, and I've got fiber with at least gigabit speed options. I have family that lives another 40 minutes away, and they recently switched from satellite to cellular and get the same crappy service, but for like $15 cheaper, and those are their only 2 options. |
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Conradish006 |
Yeah, they never actually push 1000 Mbps |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
but at the price they charge for it, no thanks |
| 15:39 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> tbh I didn't even consider the cellular option at first because I assumed that no "fixed-location service" could be worse or more expensive than cellular. I was wrong. |
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Conradish006 |
We pay $90 a month for 150 down, and we're switching to a plan that is $90 a month for gigabit. |
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Conradish006 |
Have to buy a new modem tho |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
'scuse me, "Gigabit Internet - up to 900 Mbps downloads" for $150/mo |
| 15:40 |
Conradish006 |
DOCSIS 3.1 modems are really expensive though |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
(my present pipe is $50/mo)\ |
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VanessaE |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I pay $75 I think and get about 130 up/down, at least on a good day (can't tell how much is constrained by my link, my router, or speed test servers) |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE |
(had to satisfy that escaped newline ;) ) |
| 15:41 |
Conradish006 |
It's weird how we pay for 150 down but get over 200 down |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE |
that's how it was for me for a while there, Conradish006 |
| 15:42 |
VanessaE |
I was paying for 100/3, then one day I noticed my speeds had gone up, discovered that they gave everyone an upgrade |
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Conradish006 |
huh, the ping has gone down |
| 15:42 |
Conradish006 |
I finally replaced all the cat 5 cables with cat 6, and the ping went down |
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Conradish006 |
Went from 30-35 to 15-20 |
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VanessaE |
9ms here |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE |
my ISP may be a little pricey but I can't fault their performance |
| 15:44 |
Conradish006 |
same |
| 15:44 |
Conradish006 |
They go above and beyond what is promised |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> At least you all use wired Internet |
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celeron55 |
it seem starlink is the solution to rural USA, once you can get it without begging them |
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celeron55 |
seems* |
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VanessaE |
I still have my reservations about that one |
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rom1504 |
is there any physical difficulty to installing fiber in the US or is it only political issues ? |
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celeron55 |
it's satellite, but they fly much closer so they don't have the latency |
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Conradish006 |
I just ran a speedtest, I got 230 Mbps down, 12 up. And that was about 20 feet from the router behind a closed door. |
| 15:48 |
VanessaE |
but, just being relatively new tech and all |
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Conradish006 |
This ASUS router is amazing |
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celeron55 |
and modern so it's high bandwidth |
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VanessaE |
celeron55: exactly. it's irrational caution on my part :) |
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rom1504 |
why is 1Gb/s fiber at 35$/month in europe and 4 time the price in US (if available at all) ? |
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VanessaE |
rom1504: why else? |
| 15:51 |
VanessaE |
greed. |
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rubenwardy |
europe is also denser |
| 15:51 |
VanessaE |
people like to claim it's population density but that wouldn't explain it being expensive inside a m ajor metropolis |
| 15:51 |
rubenwardy |
although, that would only effect rural areas |
| 15:51 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> rom1504: Until you realize that cellular costs a lot |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> rom1504: I pay 80€/month for 50GB of volume from Vodafone |
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rom1504 |
I pay 20€/month for 4G and unlimited |
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rom1504 |
yeah ok so basically nobody challenged the big players and the gov let it happen ? |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> I hope I could get by own wired Internet connection, except I can't |
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rom1504 |
I don't see any reason for starlink not to make people pay >100$/month |
| 15:55 |
rom1504 |
apparently other companies are doing it, so why wouldn't they increase their margin |
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celeron55 |
starlink will ask a bit less to get every customer from every company to switch to them |
| 15:56 |
celeron55 |
but probably not much less |
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rom1504 |
yeah |
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rom1504 |
in france what happened is one provider decided to do /2 on the usual price 10 years ago |
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rom1504 |
then all providers had to do the same |
| 15:57 |
rom1504 |
if that kind of things doesn't happen, the price will stay high |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> Here only the mobile network from Vodafone and (afaik) Telekom work at all. I think the case is similar for wired |
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<y5nw> I don't think the telecom operators here want to reduce the price here |
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DS-minetest |
how can I build minetest with an explicitly set luajit version? I have both luajit2.0 and luajit2.1 installed and want to build with luajit2.0. I'm calling cmake with `cmake <path to minetest source> -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DLUA_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/luajit-2.0/ -DLUA_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/libluajit-5.1.so.2.0.5`. But when I print jit.version in minetest it still says LuaJIT 2.1.0-beta3. |
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DS-minetest |
oh, and cmake says: -- Found LuaJIT: /usr/lib/libluajit-5.1.so.2.0.5 (found version "") |
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DS-minetest |
-- Using LuaJIT provided by system. |
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sfan5 |
are you sure it's loading the right luajit at runtime? |
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sfan5 |
check with ldd |
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sfan5 |
also: you can see the lua version with ./bin/minetest --version, no need to start an in-game session |
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DS-minetest |
ldd says libluajit-5.1.so.2 => /usr/lib/libluajit-5.1.so.2 |
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DS-minetest |
minetest_dev --version says Using LuaJIT 2.0.5 |
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DS-minetest |
hm, there might be something wrong with my luajit installations |
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sfan5 |
libluajit-5.1.so.2 will pick whatever libluajit-5.1.so.2.* it finds first |
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DS-minetest |
yes, I see that now too |
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DS-minetest |
how does that work? |
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sfan5 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soname |
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DS-minetest |
I didn't know such symlinks exist |
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DS-minetest |
ok, but then why does minetest pick libluajit-5.1.so.2 and not libluajit-5.1.so.2.0.5 ? |
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sfan5 |
% objdump -p /usr/lib/libluajit-5.1.so.2.0.5 | grep SONAME |
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sfan5 |
SONAME libluajit-5.1.so.2 |
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DS-minetest |
ok, I've made a new libluajit-5.1.so.2.3.0 that is a link to libluajit-5.1.so.2.0.5 |
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DS-minetest |
ugly, but works |
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DS-minetest |
though I get a src/script/cpp_api/s_base.cpp:8c: static int ScriptApiBase::luaPanic(lua_State*): A fatal error occurred: LUA PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (not enough memory) when using much memory in lua |
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sfan5 |
built luajit with gc64? |
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DS-minetest |
idk, tbh |
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DS-minetest |
the 2.0 luajit is the one from the arch repos and the 2.1 is from the AUR with some modifications |
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DS-minetest |
:/ now I can't use luajit2.1 anymore |
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sfan5 |
"some modifications"? |
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DS-minetest |
no modifications in the build settings, just some lines to avoid conflicts between both versions being installed simultaniously |
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sfan5 |
I could just have said this: if you do not remember explicitly enabling gc64 then it's not enabled |
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sfan5 |
replacing lj205 with lj210 system-wide is unlikely to break anything btw |
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DS-minetest |
yeah, but I'd like to have both for testing |
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DS-minetest |
thanks for your help! TIL something new |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> Apparently LuaJIT does have ARM64 support, but not for MacOS |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> (Or is it specific to Debian?) |
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sfan5 |
@y5nw no, not specific to debian; luajit works fine on Linux/ARM64 |
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eugenefil |
hi, can anyone please help, trying to build minetest from master w/ forked irrlicht, getting "libGL error: failed to create drawable" and then "X Error of failed request: GLXBadContext" |
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eugenefil |
full logs at https://pastebin.com/i9rbuNqy |
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eugenefil |
minetest 5.4.0 from distro package works fine |
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eugenefil |
am I doing smth wrong? (I'm building minetest for the first time) |
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sfan5 |
when you run ldd ./bin/minetest, is the path Irrlicht is loaded from correct? |
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eugenefil |
libIrrlicht.so.1.9 => /home/fil/w/mt/irrlicht/lib/Linux/libIrrlicht.so.1.9 |
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eugenefil |
seems so |
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sfan5 |
if you happen to have the system package around, does it also link to /usr/lib/libOpenGL.so? or a different one (perhaps named glvnd)? |
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Krock |
eugenefil: are you sure that's specific to new builds, and old ones still work? That sometimes break when it's doing driver updates behind the scenes |
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eugenefil |
sfan5: they both link to libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x00007fc73e63d000) |
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sfan5 |
why does cmake say it found /usr/lib/libOpenGL.so then? ? |
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eugenefil |
Krock: i'm not sure, building minetest for the first time ever |
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eugenefil |
sfan5: in CMakeCache.txt i see lines both for libGL.so and libOpenGL.so if that helps |
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eugenefil |
OPENGL_gl_LIBRARY:FILEPATH=/usr/lib/libGL.so |
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eugenefil |
OPENGL_opengl_LIBRARY:FILEPATH=/usr/lib/libOpenGL.so |
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eugenefil |
but libOpenGL.so is not in ldd output |
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sfan5 |
that's not a problem |
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sfan5 |
this is a shot in the dark but please try reconfiguring and recompiling irrlicht with -DOPENGL_GL_PREFERENCE=LEGACY |
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Krock |
^ that should be default I think |
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sfan5 |
I put it in Irrlicht's cmake file too but I think the command might be incorrect |
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sfan5 |
because it doesn't show in my CMakeCache.txt |
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eugenefil |
in my it shows OPENGL_GL_PREFERENCE:STRING=LEGACY |
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Krock |
had another issue with GLVND a while back, different rig. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7655#issuecomment-414150525 |
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Krock |
.. but there Irrlicht failed to initialize, and that's after the Xorg stuff IIRC |
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Krock |
eugenefil: does glxgears work? |
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eugenefil |
yes |
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Krock |
hmm |
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eugenefil |
sfan5: should I rebuild then if OPENGL_GL_PREFERENCE:STRING=LEGACY already in my CMakeCache.txt? |
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sfan5 |
you're looking at irrlicht's CMakeCache.txt right? |
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eugenefil |
oh, please sorry |
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eugenefil |
was looking at minetest's |
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sfan5 |
don't worry it's easy to get it mixed up |
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eugenefil |
started build |
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eugenefil |
-- Found OpenGL: /usr/lib/libOpenGL.so |
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eugenefil |
sfan5: rebuilt, but no luck, getting same error :( |
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sfan5 |
aw |
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eugenefil |
btw, is 'make clean && rm CMakeCache.txt' enough to clean up before reconfiguring and recompiling? |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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eugenefil |
ok |
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sfan5 |
there must be something wrong with how irrlicht 1.9 creates the glx context |
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eugenefil |
maybe i should try to build say 5.4, maybe it's smth wrong w/ my setup |
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eugenefil |
started building 5.4.0, see if it'll throw the same error |
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sfan5 |
hm |
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sfan5 |
could you pastebin the full glxinfo somewhere? |
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eugenefil |
nope, just built 5.4.0, runs just fine |
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eugenefil |
ok |
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eugenefil |
here it is https://pastebin.com/tUNSHk57 |
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sfan5 |
thanks |
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sfan5 |
unfortunately you have the same GLX version as me so this doesn't really help me understand the bug |
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eugenefil |
got it, anything else i can try? |
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sfan5 |
if you run minetest master with --trace, does it output anything that looks interesting? |
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eugenefil |
no, nothing special |
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eugenefil |
irrlich seems to start fine |
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eugenefil |
2021-03-11 23:45:28: INFO[Main]: Irrlicht: Irrlicht Engine version 1.9.0mt0 |
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eugenefil |
2021-03-11 23:45:28: INFO[Main]: Irrlicht: Linux 5.11.2-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri, 26 Feb 2021 18:26:41 +0000 x86_64 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome |
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eugenefil |
and after that goes the error |
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eugenefil |
libGL error: failed to create drawable |
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sfan5 |
:/ |
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eugenefil |
yeah |
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sfan5 |
one more idea: revert c4503eaf17664bdf501ee96ba86d3a24636b83bc inside irrlicht, rebuild and see if it fails with a different error |
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sfan5 |
it won't make it work but it'll give me something I can look for |
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eugenefil |
ok, i'll do that |
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eugenefil |
also i found there is a minetest-git package for my distro (arch linux) maintained by y5nw that builds from master but somewhat differently, trying that at the moment |
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eugenefil |
sfan5: btw, should i rebuild w/ -DOPENGL_GL_PREFERENCE=LEGACY? |
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sfan5 |
makes no difference |
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eugenefil |
ok |
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VanessaE |
is there no way to change the border color of a textarea[] element? |
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VanessaE |
cheapie just discovered a bug where using style_type[] to turn the border off causes the scroll bar (if visible) to stop working altogether |
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cheapie |
I'm on 75eb28b95 if that matters. |
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eugenefil |
sfan5: so I reverted and rebuilt and got another error |
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eugenefil |
X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) |
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eugenefil |
Major opcode of failed request: 18 (X_ChangeProperty) |
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sfan5 |
that's good |
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eugenefil |
really? :))) |
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eugenefil |
great news |
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sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/client/renderingengine.cpp#L227 |
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sfan5 |
add "return false" here, recompile and the game will run |
| 22:56 |
sfan5 |
"return false;" actually |
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eugenefil |
sounds like magic, ok |
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eugenefil |
should I keep that commit reverted in irrlicht? |
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sfan5 |
for now yes |
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eugenefil |
ok |
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[Pokey] |
Just a general modding question, is it normal to provide two versions of a mod if the mod requires platform specific libraries? |
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sfan5 |
if that's necessary, sure |
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[Pokey] |
Ah okay, thanks |
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eugenefil |
yep, the game really ran |
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eugenefil |
so what was the culprit? |
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sfan5 |
that change in irrlicht even though it apparently works fine for everyone else violated some assumption |
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eugenefil |
is the problem more w/ irrlicht fork then or w/ my setup? |
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sfan5 |
former |
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eugenefil |
got it, will there follow some github issue/fix? |
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sfan5 |
if I figure out why it's broken, sure |
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eugenefil |
ok, i'm just curios |
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eugenefil |
so i keep those changes for now |
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eugenefil |
anyway, sfan5, thank you for you work and time |
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