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oil_boi |
sfan5, oh god https://github.com/oilboi/Crafter/blob/master/mods/hunger/init.lua#L95 |
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oil_boi |
stage 1 of complete rewrite |
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skyliner_369 |
I'm wondering if there are instructions to build minetest for Android |
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iamweasel |
idle: yah hopefully 2nite |
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iamweasel |
mt |
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DrFrankenstone |
rendeko: I always thought a metaworld style player editor would be great in Minetest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnC8dFPO4WY&t=18s |
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DrFrankenstone |
(though I also don't know how MT servers handle player models) |
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DrFrankenstone |
i.e. no need to limit characters to "Steves" |
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DrFrankenstone |
For colored particles in my particlespawner I'm using texture = "^[colorize:#A00:255", is there a better way? It's not clear to me what cost is associated with texture modifiers - especially if they don't have a texture |
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skyliner_369 |
doing some of the earliest stages of asset creation for a mod I'm gonna be making. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5SL9twaJ/image.png |
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skyliner_369 |
and if you can't guess, the mod's a bit, I'd say, inspired by tinker's construct. |
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pere |
Hi. Is there a way to use TCP to connect to a minetest server? UDP do not have the feature set I need. |
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BuckarooBanzai |
pere: not currently, no (any maybe not even in the future) there is a way to tunnel it though, why do you think you need to have TCP? |
| 07:40 |
pere |
To make it available using pagekite, which only support tcp. :) Also, would love to connect via Tor, which also only support TCP, but that is more of a nice trick. |
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BuckarooBanzai |
interesting ;) i've done some tests with encapsulating it in an openvpn tunnel, you *could* in theory run that over tcp: minetest -> openvpn(tcp) -> tor -> ? (the latency will be brutal, just fyi ;) |
| 07:42 |
pere |
this assume '?' is some openvpn server on the other end, right? Not going to fly. :) |
| 07:42 |
BuckarooBanzai |
ah, right, yeah, or openvpn in a tor hidden service :) |
| 07:43 |
pere |
I got mintest server -> pagekite -> server outside my control -> minetest client. |
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BuckarooBanzai |
whats your use-case anyway? |
| 07:44 |
pere |
making my freedombox minetest server available to my kids outside the house. |
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pere |
but if minetest can not use tcp, minecraft it is, I guess. :) |
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BuckarooBanzai |
simple port-forwarding + ddns service doesn't work for you? |
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pere |
UDP is not an option, no. |
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* BuckarooBanzai |
shrugs |
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DrFrankenstone |
pere, why not use a tunnel that allows udp port-forwarding, rather than pagekite (if pagekite does not)? |
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DrFrankenstone |
arggh, goddammit! I started work on exposing a basalt region in the nether and Minecraft has already done it, including a bunch of the ideas I had, now it'll just look derivative. |
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Quiark |
pere: you need to put some TCP based tunnel on both sides... |
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Quiark |
what is pagekite |
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BuckarooBanzai |
Quiark: a cloud port-forwarding service from what i've seen on the website: https://pagekite.net/ |
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BuckarooBanzai |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
BuckarooBanzai: Pagekite - The fast, reliable localhost tunneling solution |
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Miniontoby |
vote your gang |
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Miniontoby |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=24897 |
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oil_boi |
KIB Kill all bugs |
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oil_boi |
sfan5, texmex went above and beyond with this minimalistic site landing https://crafter.minetest.land/ |
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sfan5 |
it looks good tho |
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oil_boi |
Is there a way to offset plantlike drawtype randomly? |
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oil_boi |
Is there get_objects_in_area yet? |
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oil_boi |
What is the meaning of life? |
| 16:13 |
rubenwardy |
the persuit of happiness |
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ANAND |
^ |
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Lone_Wolf |
We are all in a game |
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ANAND |
A game that's thankfully not as voxelly as Minetest :) |
| 16:16 |
Lone_Wolf |
I do have to complement God on his outstanding graphics. Doesn't dent my FPS at all |
| 16:17 |
ANAND |
:D |
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yrungr |
ANAND: irl has reeaally small voxels. |
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oil_boi |
:D |
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oil_boi |
If you had a class with data = {"something"=function(),"the_thing"=table} would it be faster to do data.players[playername] or data[playername]? |
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oil_boi |
Oh wait maybe I should just ask in #lua |
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Kimapr |
coming soon... |
| 17:03 |
Kimapr |
``` |
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Kimapr |
-------------------------------# MAPMEM #------------------------------- |
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Kimapr |
-- the minetest library to treat the map like RAM ---------------------- |
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Kimapr |
------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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Kimapr |
``` |
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Kimapr |
(full text in https://paste.debian.net/1151621/) |
| 17:03 |
Kimapr |
oops |
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oil_boi |
Doesn't it already do that? |
| 17:14 |
oil_boi |
Kimapr, or are you talking about creating a list with voxelmanip indexing and then working from it using that? |
| 17:14 |
Kimapr |
nope |
| 17:15 |
Kimapr |
this is a library that allocates areas in worlds for various usages. Say you want to allocate an area to build a SkyWars arena, or a lobby |
| 17:16 |
Kimapr |
you call mapmem.alloc(...) and teleport your admin in the resulting area |
| 17:16 |
Krock |
call it "forceloadlib" |
| 17:16 |
Kimapr |
no |
| 17:16 |
Kimapr |
it's not that |
| 17:16 |
Krock |
oh? |
| 17:16 |
Kimapr |
it doesn't forceload anything |
| 17:16 |
Kimapr |
just allocates them virtually |
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oil_boi |
I was thinking of doing something like that but I can't find a way to get if a chunk loads to add it to the memory pool |
| 17:17 |
Kimapr |
it manages minetest map like a 2D RAM |
| 17:17 |
oil_boi |
Oh so it creates MC chunks |
| 17:17 |
Kimapr |
No |
| 17:18 |
Kimapr |
it reserves arbitrary sized hozirontal rectangles of map |
| 17:18 |
Kimapr |
(but they are mapchunk aligned, to make mapgen hooks simpler) |
| 17:19 |
Kimapr |
it will also hook into mapgen to generate `ignore` borders around MapmemBlocks (a term that means areas that are reserved with mapmem) |
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Kimapr |
handy for minigames |
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Kimapr |
what do you think of that? |
| 17:22 |
Kimapr |
(it also supports Y limits on MapmemBlocks, for convenience) |
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Kimapr |
it doesn't even use voxelmanips, except when you want to copy the areas |
| 17:25 |
Kimapr |
when you alloc() a MapmemBlock it deletes all its area + a 1 chunk border on all sides |
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Kimapr |
Another cool thing about mapmem: No dependencies on MTG! (or any game/mod at all) |
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Fabio23 |
Howdy |
| 17:29 |
oil_boi |
Hey Fabio23 |
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Kimapr |
hi |
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FabioPE |
Hi |
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Kimapr |
why two accounts simultaniously? |
| 17:32 |
oil_boi |
He's cloning :O |
| 17:32 |
FabioPE |
I'm asking myself if i could use ngrok to expose a local minetest server to play with friends |
| 17:32 |
oil_boi |
That's Fabio Pocket Edition, the lighter weight Fabio for mobile devices |
| 17:32 |
Kimapr |
lol |
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Kimapr |
i don't know how ngrok works |
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Kimapr |
FabioPE: ngrok is HTTP only |
| 17:33 |
oil_boi |
Define: ngrok |
| 17:33 |
FabioPE |
Sorry for the double join, i'm using duckduckgo mobile browser to access the IRC, and the tab closed |
| 17:34 |
FabioPE |
hmm |
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Kimapr |
you can try port forwarding if you can |
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oil_boi |
Or you can use hamachi if it's just with friends |
| 17:34 |
oil_boi |
DO NOT use that for a server |
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Kimapr |
n o |
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FabioPE |
that's the reason why i'm asking about ngrok if |
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Kimapr |
minetest uses UDP |
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Kimapr |
HTTP is a web protocol on TCP |
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FabioPE |
i can't fordward ports on my router |
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Kimapr |
why? |
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Kimapr |
no admin password? |
| 17:36 |
FabioPE |
no, there's no option to forward the ports |
| 17:36 |
Kimapr |
your router is stupid trash |
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Krock |
turn expert mode on |
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oil_boi |
Comcast? |
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FabioPE |
yep |
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FabioPE |
what? |
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FabioPE |
what's Comcast? |
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Kimapr |
what is your router? |
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oil_boi |
What _is_ a router? |
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FabioPE |
Ubee |
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Verticen_ |
What's comcast? It's like the worst telicoms provider in history |
| 17:38 |
Krock |
US networking, according to Wikipedia |
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FabioPE |
Kimapr, my router trademark's Ubee |
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Kimapr |
oil_boi: router is the thing that routes your packets from you to some other computer and vice-versa |
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Kimapr |
FabioPE: model? |
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oil_boi |
Comcast locks out PF and enables a secondary network that's an open network so anyone can join |
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Krock |
so.. LAN party! |
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oil_boi |
Sort of, it's a literal second network detached from your primary one |
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Kimapr |
oil_boi: that's nasty |
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Kimapr |
FabioPE: i found this https://portforward.com/ubee/ |
| 17:41 |
oil_boi |
Free wifi all across New Hampshire :D |
| 17:41 |
Krock |
one that you could flood with packets to slow down the router - and with that, the secured network |
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Kimapr |
first item in ddg search |
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FabioPE |
I checked the page some time ago, but it's not compatible with the mine |
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Kimapr |
what is your model? |
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FabioPE |
Kimapr, the model is DVW324 |
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Kimapr |
try instructions for DVW 32* routers |
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Kimapr |
i noticed they have same instructions for them |
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FabioPE |
Thanks |
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Kimapr |
oh |
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Kimapr |
they have a different instruction for DVW3201B |
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Kimapr |
and DVW 3202B |
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FabioPE |
There's no Advanced tab |
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Kimapr |
3102B* |
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Kimapr |
use Gateway tab then |
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FabioPE |
There's only Status, Firewall, VPN and Wireless tabs |
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Kimapr |
try Firewall |
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FabioPE |
Firewall have only Basic, Local Log an Remote log sub tabs |
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Kimapr |
try all until you find port forwarding or something that sounds similar |
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Kimapr |
oof |
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FabioPE |
Ok, thanks |
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FabioPE |
I will leave |
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oil_boi |
You can use find_nodes_in_area as simple collision detection :O |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Use multiple light positions for CAO lighting 3f0cbbc https://git.io/Jf9Kz (2020-06-11T19:13:26Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: content_cao: Do not expire visuals for texture updates f897941 https://git.io/Jf9Kg (2020-06-11T19:12:36Z) |
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Kimapr |
oil_boi: too simple. it won't work with non-cube nodes |
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Kimapr |
and it only checks for one node (correct me if i'm wrong) |
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NetherEran |
it does support a list of node names and groups |
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Kimapr |
feeding it a list of all walkable nodes will make it check for every walkable node registered |
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Kimapr |
that would make find_nodes_in_area too complex and slow as collision detection |
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Kimapr |
and worse than actual simple collision detection |
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iamweasel |
yeah, but does it run teh elden ring? |
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iamweasel |
mt |
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finnwww |
any minetest ppl here |
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Verticen |
no what's mine-tast? |
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finnwww |
minetest is like the off brand minecraft |
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finnwww |
What's this channel for? |
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Verticen |
(plenty of 'minetest people' are here) |
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finnwww |
cool |
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sfan5 |
try /topic and read what it says |
| 21:54 |
Verticen |
so this channel is where a lot of MT devs come and discuss projects |
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Verticen |
And, Minetest is more like a minecraft-like game engine rather than an off-brand minecraft. |
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finnwww |
Can I ask a Minetest question? |
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Verticen |
It's a "test" after all |
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Verticen |
no. No questions allowed. Thinking of answers is too hards |
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finnwww |
Fair enough |
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finnwww |
:) |
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finnwww |
CONNECT archlinux |
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finnwww |
darn |
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Verticen |
Seriously, though, If you ask a question, you can prolly get an aswer here, but you may have to be patient |
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Verticen |
Such is the nature of IRC |
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finnwww |
Ok. How can I make Minetest more survival-y? |
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finnwww |
In the style of Minecraft |
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Verticen |
Oh, So there are a number of options. If you want to go full minecraft-ish there is Mineclone 2 |
| 21:58 |
Verticen |
https://wiki.minetest.net/Games/MineClone_2 |
| 21:59 |
Verticen |
Which is the current best option for a 'freeware' minecraft |
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finnwww |
That's cool. I guess it doesn't have to be full Minecraftish, just a challenging survival game |
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Verticen |
There is also oil's "Crafter" project, which is still in very early alpha, but is making great strides |
| 22:00 |
Verticen |
What you want to do though, is browse online content for "Games" |
| 22:00 |
Verticen |
"Games" are modpacks for minetest |
| 22:01 |
Verticen |
that form a complete package |
| 22:01 |
Verticen |
Many can be directly DLed to Minetest thought the minetest online browser - very easy |
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finnwww |
Cool I will. I found some, but they always crash. Probably cause no one seems to be writing unit tests. |
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calcul0n |
you can also make a cool survival game by adding mods to minetest game |
| 22:03 |
Verticen |
Oof. That can be somewhat common. well, make sure you are using the latest stable ver of Minetest - 5.2.0 I think is the latest one... |
| 22:04 |
Verticen |
..Then use the console or terminal output to try to determine which modpack is causing the crash. Disable that modpack and try again. |
| 22:05 |
Verticen |
BTW Nodecore is a very popular survival game. You can check them out on #nodecore |
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finnwww |
I will |
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Warr1024 |
:-) |
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finnwww |
Ooh it looks good |
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