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xachman |
how do I get soil wet? |
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Extex |
Hoe it, and put water near it |
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oil_boi |
xachman, I would assume you have to put water near it |
| 00:39 |
xachman |
ok so yea missed the have to turn it to soil with a hoe part |
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oil_boi |
Thanks sfan5 the new collision detection fixes have fixed the issues I bug reported so I removed those videos, it seems to have affected the FPS slightly, but I'll take that over not being able to move around correctly anytime |
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oil_boi |
Does anyone know how to make the mapgen stop spawning stone at a certain level? |
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oil_boi |
sfan5 an important update actually, I looked through all of my system settings and found that a windows update had enabled my iGPU and Minetest was using it instead of the pci one, the FPS is the same as before you pushed that, sorry about that :L |
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oil_boi |
Windows gives me a headache |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Wuzzy2 -> minetest/minetest: Rename "subgame" to "game" in 2 error messages (#9680) e88719b https://git.io/JffFA (2020-04-17T06:10:28Z) |
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oil_boi |
Is there an easy way to make the client communicate to the server that it's fully loaded in? |
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oil_boi |
IE clientside api? |
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ANAND |
oil_boi: Communicate what? |
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ANAND |
The client is constantly communicating stuff with the server (and vice-versa) |
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ANAND |
If you want your client to send custom stuff to the server, you can use mod channels. |
| 07:52 |
ANAND |
It's like a chat channel for mods, and can be used for data transfer between server mods and CSMs. |
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ANAND |
Check out https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4870 |
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oil_boi |
Well there is an issue where sometimes the client is not ready to receive data and it throws error 23 |
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oil_boi |
I tell the client all nodes that can spawn weather on them and then it handles it from there, the server tells the client which weather it is and the client handles it, etc, etc, but it cannot do that if I get error 23 and it cannot receive data |
| 08:11 |
oil_boi |
There's got to be some equivalent to on_joinplayer that I'm missing so I can tell the server the client is ready and then send the data |
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oil_boi |
2 generals problem |
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oil_boi |
I could write a recursive statement that constantly tries to make the client tell the server that it's ready to go but that would be hectic and ridiculous |
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oil_boi |
Then stop the minetest.after_loop once a receive is well received |
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oil_boi |
But ANAND this is the simplest way I can see doing this properly https://pastebin.com/raw/MnARAcaB |
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oil_boi |
But I don't want that loop to keep running, it'll keep checking the initialize variable no matter what which is no good |
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oil_boi |
I actually checked register_on_mods_loaded verses that and register_on_mods_loaded loads right before the server seems to be able to create a modchannel |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Document which noise APIs add world seed to noiseparams seed (#9693) 4e2473e https://git.io/JfJvx (2020-04-17T08:24:51Z) |
| 08:30 |
sfan5 |
oil_boi: if you compile yourself with visual studio you might also get lower fps (though I don't think there's a significant difference) |
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oil_boi |
sfan5, that's what I thought but it was just the iGPU, in fact the FPS is actually a bit higher than 5.2.0 |
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sfan5 |
interesting |
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oil_boi |
Which is weird because I thought it was all the same, but I guess you guys managed to make performance a bit better so :thumbs up: |
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sfan5 |
oh also with MSVC the math optimizations that break collision detection in the first place aren't even enabled |
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oil_boi |
So the windows version didn't have the bug? Yay |
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sfan5 |
..if you compile yourself yes |
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oil_boi |
Weird maaan |
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oil_boi |
I just solved the 2 generals problem with one of the strangest codes I've ever written |
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ANAND |
oil_boi: Have you tried `ModChannel:is_writable()` ? |
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ANAND |
Not sure if that's the solution, but maybe it'll return false if the client isn't ready? |
| 09:02 |
ANAND |
Also, you can use minetest.after instead of directly using a globalstep to set initialize = true |
| 09:02 |
ANAND |
It wouldn't make much of a difference, but it'd look cleaner. |
| 09:03 |
oil_boi |
https://github.com/oilboi/crafter_client/blob/master/init.lua#L27 This is the only solution that seems to work, manually checking if camera is moved into position |
| 09:04 |
oil_boi |
Then running the rest of the code after |
| 09:04 |
oil_boi |
Basically doing a client-server handshake |
| 09:06 |
oil_boi |
If I run a minetest.after function it simply delays loading the client into the world for some weird reason, also I tried it with artificial lag and it seems to not work with the .after statement :( So that hack is in there until there's an official function to initialize a statement when the client fully joins into the world :L |
| 09:08 |
ANAND |
Does this run only when a client joins? Doesn't on_joinplayer work? |
| 09:10 |
ANAND |
Oh wait, there's no on_joinplayer in CSM, whoops. |
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oil_boi |
Yes it does, and no it doesn't, on_joinplayer calls before clientmods can be loaded sometimes, giving error 23 clientside :( |
| 09:10 |
oil_boi |
It's a big headache but worth it when it's solved even with hacks |
| 09:12 |
ANAND |
There's a register_on_modchannel_signal, which seems to hint at the state of the modchannel. Interesting... |
| 09:12 |
ANAND |
Have you given that a try? |
| 09:13 |
Zughy |
Hello guys; can be .pot files be set in languages other than English? And is it normal that, even if I change the game language and I reopen it, it keeps showing me my system language for things that should have been translated (in other mods too)? The interface changes tho |
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sfan5 |
.pot files are the translation templates, they are always in the original language (which is english) |
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sfan5 |
in-game translations should respect your Minetest language setting unless you are using old mods that use intllib |
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Zughy |
so even if I set "Language: it\n" in the .pot file, it doesn't matter? I really didn't want to have English strings in my code |
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sfan5 |
wait, are you writing a mod that makes use of intllib? |
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Zughy |
nope, I'm trying using the 5.0 method |
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oil_boi |
ANAND, damn I just tried your idea and thought it would work but it gives the initial problem :( |
| 09:18 |
Zughy |
I have no intllib in my mod |
| 09:18 |
ANAND |
Aw man :( |
| 09:18 |
oil_boi |
Joining a modchannel, modchannel signals, and actually having the client loaded into the environment after all serverside objects are initialized seems to be disconnected |
| 09:19 |
oil_boi |
>disconnected from eachother, I mean |
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sfan5 |
5.0 doesn't use the .pot files (or generally the gettext format) so where are you getting that from? |
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Zughy |
...from mods I thought they were updated |
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Zughy |
aaaaaaa |
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ANAND |
oil_boi: Tried `ModChannel:is_writable()` yet? |
| 09:24 |
ANAND |
The server would check if the channel is writable, and then send the client the requested data |
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ANAND |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L5770 |
| 09:27 |
ANAND |
is_writeable*, sorry |
| 09:28 |
Zughy |
sfan5, do you know any actual mod using the 5.0+ system? I've been looking into ContentDB source codes but without any luck. A practical example of a .tr file would help a lot |
| 09:29 |
Zughy |
nvm, found it |
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sfan5 |
comprehensive example: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/locale/default.it.tr |
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oil_boi |
ANAND, the only problem with that is I'd have to have the server constantly trying to ping the start signal to the client and then stop when the client pings back and then initialize the distribution of which nodes can be weathered |
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ANAND |
Yeah, you're right... |
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ANAND |
Re: minetest.after, does the client-side delay still occur if you use minetest.after(0, ...)? |
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oil_boi |
It seems to just delay joining the world, but the problem with that is also the initial problem I was having, it could take 5 seconds to join if I set it to 3, 10 seconds if I set it to 5, etc, etc, etc. The main problem is there isn't a minetest.joined_server function I can call so I'm just going to have to leave it as it is for now and then update it in the future. But on the bright side: Time for the nether |
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oil_boi |
Clientside is still a baby, but I'm sure within a few months we'll be able to do crazy stuff with it |
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oil_boi |
Who knows? We might be able to swap out shaders on the fly to create cool effects |
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nephele |
clientside mods? |
| 09:42 |
oil_boi |
nephele, yes clientside mods |
| 09:43 |
oil_boi |
I mean, the server modding is awesome don't get me wrong, but there are certain things you can only do on the client consistently and smoothly :D |
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nephele |
Well, certainly, but the things i want to do don't have any apis yet :) |
| 09:44 |
oil_boi |
IE, if the mods that create menus which you can scroll through to get craft recipes were done clientside which is possible now, you could smoothly go page to page without waiting for the server to create it for you |
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nephele |
specifically input apis, locking unlocking mouse, camera controll, good stuff :P |
| 09:45 |
nephele |
Then make it clientside i guess? I don't see much problem having that clientside now |
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oil_boi |
nephele, https://i.imgur.com/TTSxSnD.png air is an ore |
| 10:07 |
nephele |
Would you mind using any useable image hosting service..? |
| 10:08 |
oil_boi |
Usable? |
| 10:08 |
nephele |
You know, something that actually sends the image over https? |
| 10:08 |
nephele |
without forcing me to donload a crapton of unusable JS so i can enjoy the image in a tiny window |
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oil_boi |
Also nephele, https://github.com/oilboi/crafter_client/blob/master/player_input.lua simple implementation of clientside player input |
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nephele |
no it isn't |
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nephele |
there is no keyboard input, you can only get some blessed keys |
| 10:09 |
nephele |
that doesn't help me at all |
| 10:10 |
nephele |
I would need an api that is atleast as good as the one gmod has :P |
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oil_boi |
You're gonna have a baaad time |
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nephele |
okay...? |
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nephele |
Do you think it is impossible for minetest to implement new sane apis? becuase i do not |
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oil_boi |
No, I do, but it is not currently possible without modifying the source code of the engine |
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nephele |
okay...? |
| 10:12 |
nephele |
>the things i want to do don't have any apis yet :) |
| 10:12 |
nephele |
i did mean that |
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nephele |
:P |
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oil_boi |
I see |
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oil_boi |
So >Thou art going to have a bad time until implemented into the engine< |
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nephele |
No |
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nephele |
why would i write a mod that can't be realised? |
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nephele |
doesn't make sense to me |
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oil_boi |
Bad time :( |
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nephele |
how so? |
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nephele |
I can do something else :P |
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oil_boi |
I dunno, my brain has turned into mush trying to debug randomizing generation of a nether portal |
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nephele |
I wonder why there are things like that without having actuall dimensions :P |
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Conradish006 |
*yawns* |
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Conradish006 |
Hello everyone! |
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nephele |
G'day |
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Conradish006 |
Keep getting disconnected >_> |
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rubenwardy |
is it con-radish or conrad-ish? |
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rubenwardy |
I prefer the formre |
| 14:03 |
Conradish006 |
You decide ;) |
| 14:04 |
Conradish006 |
It is the latter |
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Conradish006 |
Godamn thing changes my emoticons to emojis |
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Conradish006 |
I swear to God, If I get disconnected one more time, I'll take my modem and dump it into a vat of molten copper |
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nephele |
from irc, or from mt? :) |
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Conradish006 |
IRC |
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sfan5 |
* Conradish006 has disconnected (Remote host closed the connection). |
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sfan5 |
don't think it's your modem or internet, rather it's the application deciding to close the connection |
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Conradish006 |
I dunno |
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Conradish006 |
I left the computer for one sec |
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nephele |
Hit ctrl-c by accident maybe? :) |
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Conradish006 |
Normally its: * Conradish006 has disconnected (Ping timeout: forever). |
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Conradish006 |
JK |
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Conradish006 |
But normally it is due to actually timing out |
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Ingar |
it's your ISP hacking your connections |
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nephele |
That would mean, at the start of time you connected and at the end of time you timed out |
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Ingar |
your using IRC, clearly you're a suspect subversionist |
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nephele |
Ingar: subversion?? we use git here! |
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Conradish006 |
Sh*tposting channel now |
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Ingar |
nephele: exactly! |
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nephele |
I started a shitposting channel on matrix and accidentally got 100% technical audience and got a tech channel |
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Conradish006 |
LOL |
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Conradish006 |
Anybody know a good mechanical keyboard? |
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Conradish006 |
I'm looking at a Razer one |
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nephele |
most are mechanical :D |
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nephele |
I assume you mean that it doesn't use a rubber keymap, i think cherry produces some but i dont know which are good (want to obtain one with subms latency but havent checked yet which qualify) |
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Conradish006 |
I thought about getting the Corsair K70 with the Cherry MX Browns |
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Conradish006 |
But that is $175 |
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Conradish006 |
And I don't wanna spend that much for a keyboard |
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Astrobe |
sub-ms ? Your typical reaction time is ~200ms and if you type at sub-ms speed your fingers won't last long. |
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Noclip |
Playing Minetest on a digital keyboard sounds like fun ... |
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Astrobe |
Maybe that's even faster than sound. |
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Noclip |
How about buying a used one? |
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Conradish006 |
I never thought about that |
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Conradish006 |
Not sure how good of an idea that would be |
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Noclip |
I it with my laptop (a Thinkpad) and I'm 100% satisfied with it. |
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Conradish006 |
What Thinkpad do you have? |
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Conradish006 |
I have a T470 and the keyboard is very good |
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Conradish006 |
Not as good as my old Latitude E4640 |
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Noclip |
X230 Tablet |
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Noclip |
It mainly bought it for studying but while it doesn't have graphics card it's still good enough to run Minecraft and Minetest with an acceptable performance. (The tablet functionality makes it possible for me to replace paper.) |
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Conradish006 |
I loved my old Latitude |
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Conradish006 |
I had to ditch it about 5 years ago |
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Conradish006 |
It was too old |
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Conradish006 |
It had a Centrino vPro and some Nvidia GPU |
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Conradish006 |
I got my T470 a couple of months ago |
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Conradish006 |
It has a 7600U, 16 GB of RAM, 512 GB NVMe, Windows 10 Pro |
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Conradish006 |
It's only a dual core |
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Conradish006 |
But it's a beast of a dual core |
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Conradish006 |
It has a slot for a 2.5" SSD or HD |
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Conradish006 |
So I might toss in a 1 TB SATA SSD for extra storage |
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Noclip |
Well I think dual core isn't bad for minetest :joy: |
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Noclip |
*? |
| 14:58 |
Noclip |
I assume you bought it new? |
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Conradish006 |
No |
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Conradish006 |
Second-hand for $325 with a dock |
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Conradish006 |
I sold the dock |
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Conradish006 |
It has a Thunderbolt 3 port, which makes it so I can use it with my three monitor setup |
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Noclip_ |
Well $325 sounds pretty good. |
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Noclip_ |
The Matrix bridge seems to be a bit overloaded again so I'm now using Webchat. |
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Conradish006 |
$325 is a very good price considering the cheapest I could find a used T470 elsewhere was no cheaper than $450 |
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Conradish006 |
And they were the Core i5 models too |
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Conradish006 |
There were no i7, 16 GB of RAM, with an NVMe for less than $650 |
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Noclip_ |
It seems to be receiving my messages exactly 4 minutes after I sent them and after 5 minutes it wouldn't bridge them over to irc anymore ... |
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Conradish006 |
oof |
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Noclip_ |
And then then there are people spending over 1000$/€ for a smartphone ... |
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Daisae |
Is this the right channel for people developing modules? |
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Noclip_ |
Partly |
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Daisae |
Do files of the same path and name in a module automatically override game files? Can I patch games that way? |
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sfan5 |
what's a "module"? |
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Daisae |
I am thinking of the Lua server side mods. |
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Noclip_ |
"Mods (short for modifications or modules) are user-created modifications to the game in such a way that adds to or alters the gameplay." |
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Noclip_ |
(source: https://wiki.minetest.net/Mod) |
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Astrobe |
You should try it sfan, it is a wonderful thing :-) |
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sfan5 |
Daisae: then the answer is no |
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Daisae |
Thanks. |
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Noclip_ |
There is also #minetest-mod-dev but that one has only 11 users ... |
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Noclip_ |
sfan5: Are you saying that patching games is not possible or that doing that by just using the same path isn't possible? |
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sfan5 |
you can only patch what the engine and game API (or internals, if they are exposed) allow you to |
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sfan5 |
swapping out files in games would be terribly unportable anyway |
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Noclip_ |
But games are just collections of mods so they are also using the same API. |
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sfan5 |
that doesn't necessarily mean that the game has an API for its own mechanisms |
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Noclip_ |
Does the builtin API allow mods to overwrite or deactivate other mods or parts of them? |
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Noclip_ |
There are for example several tnt mods which seem to overwrite the behaviour of tnt. |
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DS-minetest |
you can override many of the things that were created with core.register_* |
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DS-minetest |
eg. override_item |
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DS-minetest |
and you can replace global functions and tables by overriding them in lua |
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Noclip_ |
Why are some builtin mapgen features like caverns or floatlands (which isn't available in 5.2) restricted to some mapgens? |
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Astrobe |
prolly because those features are part of what the C++ mapgen does. |
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Astrobe |
Another example is mgv6 and rivers. |
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Noclip_ |
But aren't caverns indipendent of the rest of the mapgen? |
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Noclip_ |
I mean they're already part of several very different mapgens. |
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Noclip_ |
Who is hosting Mesehub (https://git.minetest.land)? |
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cheapie |
You know, I've somewhat disagreed before with what the engine considers a "suspiciously large amount of objects", but I think what I just saw here counts regardless :P |
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cheapie |
2020-04-17 17:00:56: ERROR[Server]: suspiciously large amount of objects detected: 29324 in (-200,1,-302); removing all of them. |
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Krock |
I bet you're glad the engine did that for you |
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rubenwardy |
jesus |
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Krock |
Noclip_: most connections I've found point towards Wuzzy, but the domain is owned by DrFrankenstone, so it could also be him.. dunno |
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Krock |
website is an iframe from https://buildingwithblocks.info/ |
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cheapie |
I did find the problem that created all of those - it's on one of the really old gas pump systems that doesn't have a limit, and someone pumped like 9 million liters... and every time the display updates on those really old ones, the price signs do too, and being in that weird half-loaded state they couldn't delete their old entities when making new ones. |
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cheapie |
The newer gas pump systems do have a limit (100 of whatever unit you use) and are a little smarter about display handling, but I can't just make everyone update theirs. |
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cheapie |
The whole place it's at is just a mess - apparently the gas station is called "BFS", and then there's another sign under that that just says "I wANt tO kiLL yOU. hAHa"... not weird at all, that one. |
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cheapie |
Then there are two car wash vacuums next to it with a sign saying "Vaculuml kwjy lk" and a second sign that just says "stew" |
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texmex |
”Mods” meaning modification only makes sense if there’s an original game being modified. Unless messing around MTG nothing is being modified in that sense. ”Modules” does make sense. |
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Daisae |
What happens if there is play in a world which uses Mobs Redo and then later the mob mods are removed? |
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Krock |
a bunch of unknown objects |
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Krock |
and unknown items, such as nets or eggs |
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Astrobe |
I'd like to see season changes without massive node updates, What about using animated textures, and index the frame based on the day count / 32 ? |
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Krock |
frame indices are client-side |
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Krock |
you could make the delay really high, but it won't be synced |
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Krock |
alternatively, use palette coloring and change param2 of the node per mapblock |
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Krock |
basically one huge vmanip area |
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Astrobe |
Still a map update. There's no node property that indirectly refers to a global variable ? |
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Krock |
no |
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Krock |
actually "yes" would be the correct answer |
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Krock |
or "your assumption in the question is correct" |
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Krock |
erlehmann: interesting quit message |
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Astrobe |
English language is lacking something like the french "si!" or the german "doch!", hence the complications... |
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Astrobe |
I tried to change the snow cover by atlering the dirt and grass spread, introducing a condition based on get_heat() + sin(get_heat()). |
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Astrobe |
I t didn't look pretty cause the nodes were turning to dirt before turning to snow or grass, |
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Astrobe |
but thinking about it seeems to me that both ABMs could be merged into one, and there could be some opportunities there. |
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Krock |
with ABMs the server will suffer a little forever. with entire mapblock updates it'll suffer a lot for a very short time (20ms ?) |
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Daisae |
ModPacks can not be nested, I see. |
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Krock |
Minetest does internally not know about modpacks so yes |
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Astrobe |
In that case though, a progressive transition is actually kind of what you want. You don't want all the snow to melt all at once. |
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Astrobe |
I see the ABM intervals in MTG don't use the trick consisting in using prime numbers to spread the load. I infer that the engine already does something about this ? |
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Krock |
no it doesn't |
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tf2ftw |
hi everyone |
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Krock |
hi alone |
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tf2ftw |
is there an "auto swing" key similar to automove ? |
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Krock |
what does it do? |
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tf2ftw |
I want to hit a key and have the "fist" swing without me having to hold the mouse key down |
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Astrobe |
For use with a weapon, like a sword ? |
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Krock |
doesn't exist |
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Astrobe |
I think I became addicted to screenshot since I learned how to use them as the game menu background. |
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sfan5 |
no idea what I'm doing at this point: https://0x0.st/iQ78.mp4 |
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Zughy |
sfan5, well, those are some giant water drops |
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freelikegnu |
I love it sfan5 |
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Astrobe |
It needs more lava though. |
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freelikegnu |
rainbow colors |
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freelikegnu |
does tenplus1 not hang out here? |
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sfan5 |
!seen tenplus1 |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: tenplus1 was last seen at 2020-04-12 16:45:27 UTC on #minetest-hub |
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sfan5 |
hm not sure if he joins this channel |
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sfan5 |
but he's only on IRC once in a while either way |
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freelikegnu |
cool thanks |
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freelikegnu |
it feels good to work on my goblins again |
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came here to see how the servers are holding up for the forum and wiki |
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xachman |
Why is my cotton taking forever to grow |
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Daisae |
xachman: do you see it growing at all? |
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xachman |
yea its done like 2 stages |
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xachman |
does it only grow when im online? |
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xachman |
and im assuming it has white fluffy things on it when its done |
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rubenwardy |
roughly and yes |
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rubenwardy |
it grows when you're offline, but not when the server isn't running |
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rubenwardy |
so in singleplayer, it won't grow when you're not running minetest |
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rubenwardy |
as the world is paused then |
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xachman |
yes i have this running in a docker container on my server here at home |
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rubenwardy |
oh nice |
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rubenwardy |
it should work |
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rubenwardy |
I'll check how long cotton takes to grow |
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Daisae |
and you must be within a certain distance of the cotton. If you are far away, it won't grow. |
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rubenwardy |
I'm pretty sure farming has catch up code? |
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rubenwardy |
or maybe that's just the furnat |
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rubenwardy |
it should take 226 seconds per stage, and there's 8 stages |
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rubenwardy |
and that's only during daytime |
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xachman |
ok |
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rubenwardy |
Minetest days are 72x shorter than IRL days |
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rubenwardy |
so 30 minutes with permanent day |
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Astrobe |
it catches up "once", so it won't jump two stages when you come back, just one. |
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xachman |
so im assuming offline is too far away |
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xachman |
I have to watch it grow I was hopping I could hop offline then get back on and be like cotton! |
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xachman |
where do you get wool to make a bed? |
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rubenwardy |
from cotton |
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xachman |
ok yea this bed thing way harder than minecraft lol. |
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xachman |
Kinda nice you really make your bed and sleep in it here |
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rubenwardy |
looks like minecraft is similar, but with sheep? |
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rubenwardy |
so actual wool |
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xachman |
yea funny thing is im running mod_animals but I think mod_monsters just keeps killing them all |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
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freelikegnu |
would it be to expensive to have a sound reflectivity/absorption value for nodes? |
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rubenwardy |
it would be super nice but also probably quite expensive |
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rubenwardy |
I wonder if there are sound mapping techniques |
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Astrobe |
it's probably like raycasting. |
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freelikegnu |
amplitude falloff (depending on density of media like air or water), |
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xachman |
oh yea how is the rtx update going guys? |
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Astrobe |
At least you don't have refraction with sound... I think ? |
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Astrobe |
Actually there probably is, but few people have heard about it. Ha! |
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rubenwardy |
it depends how much you want to do it |
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rubenwardy |
super realisitic, and you'd want indirect rays to perform echos |
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rubenwardy |
I kinda want to write this now |
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rubenwardy |
actually, I can sense the pain |
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Astrobe |
lol |
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xachman |
well I finally got some cotton |
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xachman |
got my one block of wool from cotton |
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freelikegnu |
going from a sound absorbing environment above ground into a cave with reflective walls could be really emotive |
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xachman |
its the bed challenge |
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freelikegnu |
achievement unlocked |
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xachman |
oh man |
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xachman |
really this could be an achievement |
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xachman |
achievements thats a pretty good idea anyone mod that or do we have something like that? |
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freelikegnu |
mineclone2 has them |
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xachman |
ok cool ill have to spin up another container with that then |
| 23:23 |
freelikegnu |
also rubenwardy's awards: https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards |
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freelikegnu |
oops this is moved to https://gitlab.com/rubenwardy/awards |
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rubenwardy |
github is a mirror |
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rubenwardy |
but gitlab is the proper location |
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freelikegnu |
it is a bit sad that sound is often under appreciated compared to visuals in games |
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rubenwardy |
yeah, it makes sense as sound is harder to see |
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freelikegnu |
%\. |
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Astrobe |
A reverb effect could be nice for the caves example. Not ideal, but affordable I guess ? I don't know if standard sound libraries have that sort of feature. |
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mmuller |
FWIW, digital delay is very cheap to implement and makes a very nice echo. |
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freelikegnu |
may be something like get theamount of air nodes around a player in a 10x10 area if its less than a certain number add some delay and repeat the sound with amplitude based on the average number of crumpy verses crackly nodes in that area/direction? |
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freelikegnu |
it could also be fun to use the raycasting to ping nodes and listen for feeback, maybe even good enough for playing blind |
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