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IRC log for #minetest, 2019-09-19

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01:14 MinetestBot [git] leucome -> minetest/minetest_game: Leafdecay: Use param2 ~= 1 instead of param2 == 0 00f9287 https://git.io/Je3qG (2019-09-19T01:13:18Z)
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05:36 hisforever Hi I'm having trouble with Blacksails mod here is a pastbin https://pastebin.com/aKrdn4HY
05:49 cheapie hisforever: Make sure you didn't accidentally extract it into another directory - as in, make sure you don't have ~/.minetest/mods/blacksails/blacksails or something.
05:53 hisforever cheapie: thank you
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11:40 NathanS21 curl
11:41 NathanS21 oops, wrong window. :P
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14:36 MinetestBot [git] DS-Minetest -> minetest/minetest: Trigger on_place in many situations even if prediction failed 0b5c549 https://git.io/Je3lZ (2019-09-19T14:36:02Z)
14:41 kurtzmusch noice
14:41 kurtzmusch iv been waiting for this
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14:47 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Remove incorrect MutexAutoLock 5c99834 https://git.io/Je3lX (2019-09-19T14:46:41Z)
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17:23 codic hi
17:24 codic when will the 9slice gui be implemented?
17:25 jas_ it was already i believe
17:25 jas_ craftguide is using it?  new craftguide doesn't work for me in lavaland game for some reason, maybe i should tell kilbith
17:25 codic what?
17:25 codic whre?
17:25 jas_ 9slice is used by craftguide
17:25 codic the craftguide?
17:26 codic oh ok
17:26 jas_ i believe so, that's what it looks like.  now i am wondering if i'm wrong
17:26 codic sorry i dont  have pc now
17:26 DS-minetest it is also used by mtg
17:26 jas_ but yes the 9slice feature was added if i rememebr correctly
17:26 jas_ oh really  where?
17:26 codic can you post a screenshot?
17:26 DS-minetest in the prepend
17:26 jas_ ah
17:27 jas_ glad to see a review on that pr, ds-minetest :)
17:27 DS-minetest which?
17:28 jas_ #7924
17:28 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7924 -- Allow binding dig, place actions to keys; remove LMB/RMB hardcoding by ClobberXD
17:28 codic i dont have pc access now
17:28 jas_ i can try, codic
17:28 codic so can someone?
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17:29 codic ok
17:29 codic good
17:29 DS-minetest btw. jas_ == jastevenson303 ?
17:29 codic ill wait
17:29 codic lol
17:29 jas_ yes
17:30 DS-minetest ah
17:30 jas_ that's james alexander stevenson lol
17:30 jas_ (not the lol part)
17:30 codic oh ok
17:30 codic lol
17:30 codic noone is named lol lol
17:30 jas_ u would think if i searched "craftguide" on forum i would get "craftguide" mod thread first.....
17:31 DS-minetest thanks for testing PRs, jas_! for my formspec elements PR, it was quite helpful : )
17:31 codic XD
17:31 codic you have a screenshot/
17:31 jas_ i guess i will resort again to site:forum.minetest.net <query> on google heh
17:31 codic lol
17:31 jas_ i'm searching first codic, curious if it's not in the thread
17:31 codic the forum is bad
17:31 jas_ oh good!  glad to help, especially on a pr like that
17:31 codic oh ok
17:31 jas_ plus u said, or some1 did, "this is a big pr and needs testing" and i was available
17:31 codic lol
17:32 jas_ https://i.imgur.com/IbexMwQ.png
17:32 codic where can i contribute to mt?
17:32 jas_ github
17:32 codic no like how can i see what projects ae there
17:32 codic are
17:32 codic nice
17:33 jas_ hmmm.  well, i guess the forum?  you mean other than IR
17:33 codic where is 9slice used
17:33 jas_ IRC?
17:33 codic oh ok
17:33 jas_ i think on the corners, but i actually just assumed!
17:33 jas_ i could be wrong.  i wonder where it's used in MTG
17:33 jas_ must be same, rounded corners
17:33 jas_ that's cool, though
17:33 codic Yes other than IRC/Matrix/Discord etc
17:33 codic oh ok
17:33 jas_ yes minetest.reddit.com & forum.minetest.net, etc
17:33 jas_ and the mailing list
17:33 codic and someone subscribe to my youtube channel?
17:33 codic https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3v84wpTKXNqpx9oScqlMcw
17:33 jas_ ...
17:34 codic I'm gonna add some Minetest videos
17:34 jas_ youtube.com/channel/UCpvlmbZO1rsWF18fBhP9aWA
17:34 jas_ i got a bunch
17:34 codic oh ok
17:34 jas_ check 'em out!!  haha, just kidding around.  i'ma go outside, bbfn
17:34 codic lava sounds?
17:35 codic what in the world?
17:35 codic anyways anyone here have windows?
17:35 codic i need someone to help with win videos
17:35 * DS-minetest wonders what the first item in the 2nd row in that screenshot was
17:36 galaxie Does the Windows version automagically update itself? Or at least notify users to update?
17:36 DS-minetest codic: there's a simple way to fix all your problems with windows: use linux!
17:36 codic hmm.. it does look strange
17:36 codic I am using Linux lol
17:36 galaxie codic: WINE?
17:37 codic Which is why I asked who used Windows
17:37 codic @gal
17:37 codic galaxie: wine for what?
17:37 codic the next version will be released next month
17:37 codic idk if it informs users
17:37 galaxie codic: Wine Is Not An Emulator, basically allows you to run (some) Windows program in Linux
17:38 codic I know what wine is lol
17:38 codic I was asking why you said WINE
17:38 codic and Minetest and SuperTuxKart run in WINE btw
17:38 codic it works great
17:38 codic with native fps
17:38 DS-minetest why?
17:38 galaxie codic: You asked if anyone had Windows?
17:38 codic yes
17:38 codic idk why
17:38 codic just for fun
17:39 codic i dont actually play in it
17:39 galaxie I feel like MT and STK are entwined somehow...
17:39 codic do you have windows ?
17:39 codic yes they are
17:40 codic they are both open source alternatives for popular paid games
17:40 codic lol
17:40 jas_ DS-minetest: OMG THAT'S OFFICIAL??!
17:40 codic whats official
17:40 jas_ i saw that when i tried it out, didn't work - didn't show all items in lavaland, but... i saw that texture and thought it was my bug! ahahha
17:41 jas_ it's the craftguide sign item! hahah
17:41 jas_ how did he let that slip?
17:41 codic lol
17:41 jas_ !tell kilbith haha
17:41 MinetestBot jas_: I'll pass that on when kilbith is around
17:41 codic anyone have windows ?i need a win user for my videos
17:41 * DS-minetest just saw the item in your screenshot
17:41 jas_ yea i noticed it when i tried the new version, which didn't work for me.  i hope kilbith fixes my problem ^_^ because new version looks sweet
17:42 jas_ except that craftguide sign texture LMAO
17:42 codic nice
17:42 jas_ ye i'm stuck on old version.  it has some hardcoded deps on mtg
17:42 codic which old versio
17:42 jas_ craftguide
17:42 codic version
17:43 codic oh ok
17:43 jas_ new version doesn't show all items for me :'( i wonder if other games suffer similar issue
17:43 codic idk
17:43 jas_ ok i better off and errand bbfn
17:43 codic try mineclone2
17:43 DS-minetest btw the lavaland subgame looks nice (although it's missing polishment)
17:43 codic ok
17:43 jas_ much polishment!! thx
17:43 codic im so sad that no one has windows
17:43 codic :(
17:44 DS-minetest you are such a sadistic person!
17:44 codic lol
17:44 codic yes i am tormenting you
17:44 codic with the power of windows nt
17:45 codic ok sry
17:45 codic no more windows
17:45 codic ill ask someone else lol
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17:49 codic yall shall switch to riot.im
17:51 codic what linux distros do you guys use?
17:52 * DS-minetest uses lubuntu
17:52 blaise I use gentoo/funtoo
17:53 codic i use manjaro xfce
17:53 codic try it
17:53 codic its actually pretty good
17:53 * codic says hi
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18:08 Astrobe looks like my adsl box crashed.
18:09 Astrobe !server Minefall
18:09 MinetestBot Astrobe: Minefall | 77.151.101.245 | Clients: 1/10, 1/1 | Version: 5.1.0-a7c5dc5 / Minefall | Ping: 52ms
18:10 tune I use Guix System
18:12 Ingar arch linux
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18:12 Krock i (don't) use arch btw
18:14 Ingar I don't like debian, and I profoundly hate gentoo ;)
18:15 MinetestBot [git] ClobberXD -> minetest/minetest: Add support for per-player FOV overrides and multipliers 47da640 https://git.io/Je30a (2019-09-19T18:14:16Z)
18:17 Astrobe Seasick epidemic inc.
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18:43 galaxie Is it convention to use _'s or -'s in place of spaces for mod names?
18:44 sfan5 _
18:49 Astrobe MT prohibits spaces and hyphens probably because it is multiplatform adn different file systems have slightly differnt restrictions.
19:06 galaxie Astrobe: On hyphens? Haven't heard that one.. is that Windows or Mac?
19:08 Astrobe Honestly I don't really know. It might be that they allow only numbers and digits and the underscore because you can't really do CamelCase either?
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19:38 kurtzmusch prohibiting hifens is overkill, i really prefer them over underscores = (
19:39 rubenwardy hyphens aren't valid in variables either
19:39 rubenwardy so they should be prohibited, along with mod names starting with numbers
19:40 rubenwardy because it is an enforced convention to only create global variables with the name of your mod name
19:40 rubenwardy meaning that mods like 3d_armor which didn't have globals at one point are now forced to create badly named globals
19:41 galaxie rubenwardy: I was thinking that might have been the reason, thanks.
19:45 kurtzmusch huuum makes sense
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20:35 fruitsnack Where can I find default Sam texture and what its license?
20:35 fruitsnack Can't seem to find it in either MTG or minetest repos
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20:39 kurtzmusch i think its Wuzzy's
20:39 Wuzzy LOL
20:39 Wuzzy no its definitely not mine
20:39 Wuzzy you can find it somewhere in Minetest game dirs
20:40 Wuzzy search for mods/default/models or so
20:41 fruitsnack Yeah, I checked all content folders of default
20:41 fruitsnack and tried looking in minetest engine itself
20:41 fruitsnack I mean, maybe it's called in some funny way
20:41 fruitsnack I didn't actually see the previews
20:44 fruitsnack Found it
20:44 fruitsnack it was in player_api
20:44 fruitsnack not in default
20:46 Astrobe oh, the texture is with the 3d model. That's vicious indeed.
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20:50 linuxguy2020 Are there any premade VirtualBox minetest servers for download and use instead of having to configure the entire thing by hand or any scripts to automate the process of setting up a server?
20:51 sfan5 are you looking to automate server setup?
20:52 sfan5 because if not, I'd just say that it's not that much to set up for a single one
20:52 sfan5 it also depends on what you count under "set up", are you installing minetest from the repositories?
20:53 linuxguy2020 sfan5:  Yeah automate the setup if its available. I was gonna install Debian with just the CLI and install minetest-server package but it takes so long and tedious. Its super easy with a desktop installed and all that but it takes up more ram on my NAS box that Im putting the virtualbox server onto.
20:54 linuxguy2020 sfan5: But the debian packages are too old
20:54 sfan5 yes that's often an issue
20:54 linuxguy2020 sfan5: Unless I just went with Unstable branch or even Ubuntu server edition would work.
20:55 sfan5 there is a solution for the "too old packages" problem >> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=311160#p311160
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21:03 Calinou building Minetest from source isn't too difficult if your distribution is recent enough
21:03 Calinou (all dependencies are available in packages)
21:04 codic yup
21:04 codic with manjaro its easy
21:04 codic anyone here use manjaro?
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21:12 aldenp codic: any arch based distro should make it easy with the power of the AUR
21:13 aldenp personally I use gentoo
21:13 kurtzmusch why do you like to suffer?
21:13 aldenp lol
21:13 codic is it rolling release?
21:13 codic what?
21:13 aldenp yes
21:13 codic whats so bad about manjaro
21:14 kurtzmusch its compiled based distros, you cant get pacakages, just source
21:14 aldenp gentoo's gimmick is that *every* package is compiled from source, which means long install times and when things break, they *really* break
21:14 codic oh ok
21:14 codic but in manjaro you can  lol
21:14 aldenp yes, although most of the time you install from binary packages on arch-based distros
21:15 codic yeah thats what im saying
21:15 aldenp I use arch on one of my servers, since I'm not dumb enough to run gentoo on a system with 1GB of memory and a single core :P
21:15 codic you use binaries from pacman or the AUR
21:15 codic lol
21:15 fruitsnack a quick question about formspecs: is it possible to colorize table rows or columns?
21:15 fruitsnack individual ones
21:15 codic i think it is in 5.1.0
21:19 codic because if you press delete
21:19 codic on a world
21:19 codic delete is red
21:20 sfan5 that's just a button
21:20 codic oh :(
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