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AlexYst |
I'm thinking of starting up a new Minetest server, but I think my machine's 32-bit. Are there any quirks I should know about when running on 32-bit machines, such as the world not extending out as far or Lua floats not being as large? |
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AlexYst |
My scripts have only been tested on a 64-bit machine, so they might need some tuning or something if 32-bit Minetest is different than 64-bit Minetest. |
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paramat |
worlds are no smaller on 32 bit |
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AlexYst |
Okay, sweet. Are the floats any smaller? Some of my scripts use some pretty big pseudo-integers. |
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AlexYst |
It looks like I have some of my "integer" floats set to fake overflow at 9007199254740992; way over the 32-float limit. |
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I think MT explicitly uses 64-bit integers where required (at least in the parts of code I've seen/broken). |
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AlexYst |
luk3yx: Okay, sweet. Thank you! |
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luk3yx |
I haven't load tested a 32-bit server or anything though, it'll probably run slightly slower because it's 32-bit however. |
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AlexYst |
Yeah, I expect slowness. I'm poor though, so buying another computer just for Minetest seems out of the budget if I can get away with not doing it. |
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AlexYst |
G'night, all! I need to start my hour-long commute home so I can get up on time for my final exams tomorrow. |
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BuckarooBanzai7 |
awesome-minetest list: https://github.com/awesome-minetest/awesome-minetest feel free to submit PR's :) |
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Is there some way to verify whether MT finds my client side mods? Is there some CSM which is known to reliably work with the current MT? |
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MinetestBot |
Wuzzy: Jun-05 16:42 UTC <leo_rockw> I got a reply about SnowSong with the author agreeing to CC BY SA the sound pack. |
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Wuzzy |
leo_rockway: Cool. But on <https://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/snowsong-total-sound-and-music-resource-pack/> I still see the old license :( |
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benrob0329 |
Storage Space and Smelting Trees - Ayums - Episode 5 - https://youtu.be/sN2Epyha3Uo |
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Daisae |
What is in clientmods/mods.conf , what is load_mod_preview ? |
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Daisae |
clavi: Did you try changing the compositor rendering backend? |
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clavi |
no |
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clavi |
OpenGL 3.1 just works for me |
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Daisae |
clavi: How did you solve the problem of frame rate droping after a while? |
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clavi |
I never had this problem |
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Pie-jacker875 |
blah I really need to figure out how to get my network to work for server announce |
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Pie-jacker875 |
it was working at one point for half a day and then broke again |
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leo_rockway |
Wuzzy: yes, she uploaded a new package to her Google Drive. |
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leo_rockway |
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7weI5zqPZuKSWV0UndwazhGMEU/view |
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leo_rockway |
this is what she told me "Yes, I agree entirely. :D I am so glad you find the pack useful! The music, SFX and the textures of Sn0wZone are 100% mine and I make them available to useby anyone for whatever their projects. I can also do custom SFX engineering and music." |
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leo_rockway |
she'd also be glad to work on minetest: " I would gladly do custom art, textures, SFX and music to assist you in your project." |
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p_gimeno |
Pie-jacker875: so I can reproduce your error, but I get one before that |
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Pie-jacker875 |
k |
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p_gimeno |
2019-06-07 19:50:07: ERROR[Main]: A serialization error occurred: 2019-06-07 19:50:07: ERROR[Main]: ServerEnvironment::loadMeta(): EnvArgsEnd not found! |
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p_gimeno |
sounds a bit like database corruption |
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Pie-jacker875 |
oh fun |
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Pie-jacker875 |
I had some cool buildings but it's probably about time I start a new world anyways |
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p_gimeno |
I'm trying to find it out |
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Pie-jacker875 |
I have a backup from a few days before this happened anyways |
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p_gimeno |
there's also the whole rollback log which is bigger than the map itself |
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Pie-jacker875 |
but if it can be repaired or something can be learned then that's cool |
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Pie-jacker875 |
oh yeah |
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p_gimeno |
anyway, yeah I'm investigating |
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Pie-jacker875 |
that's because of technic batbox transactions |
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DS-minetest |
does someone know, how to clip something drawn with irr::video::IVideoDriver::drawMeshBuffer? |
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Pie-jacker875 |
oh shit it actually is larger than the world itself |
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Pie-jacker875 |
it's not like that in my older backup |
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p_gimeno |
Pie-jacker875: do you have a backup of env-meta.txt? I think I was wrong and the error was related to that file, not to the map |
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p_gimeno |
the links from yesterday don't work |
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Pie-jacker875 |
oh yeah I set them to kill themselves after a few hours |
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Pie-jacker875 |
https://p.teknik.io/BvM3i |
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Pie-jacker875 |
let me grab an older one |
| 18:07 |
Pie-jacker875 |
oh wait that is the older one |
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p_gimeno |
umm |
| 18:07 |
p_gimeno |
it works |
| 18:07 |
p_gimeno |
and the weird thing is that the other error is gone, I could enter the map |
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Pie-jacker875 |
lol what |
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p_gimeno |
I'm in a desert/savanna area full of torches |
| 18:08 |
Pie-jacker875 |
yeah that's the world |
| 18:09 |
Pie-jacker875 |
if you follow the torches you'll probably eventually find all the stuff I've built |
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p_gimeno |
yeah found some nice sandstone brick houses :) |
| 18:10 |
Pie-jacker875 |
you're across the river from the main area |
| 18:10 |
Pie-jacker875 |
there's a bridge leading to it |
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p_gimeno |
well, anyway, back to the point, the question is why doesn't it work for you |
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Pie-jacker875 |
it's working for me now too |
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Pie-jacker875 |
when I use the old env_meta.txt |
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Pie-jacker875 |
idk where I put the copy of the one from yesterday |
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p_gimeno |
ohh |
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p_gimeno |
\o/ |
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Pie-jacker875 |
anyway my server's up now with the world if you want to come say hi |
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Pie-jacker875 |
not announcing still because I'm dumb and can't get my network to work but I think you should be able to connect with the domain, piejacker.net |
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p_gimeno |
try the server_address thing |
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Pie-jacker875 |
yeah I think everything is set correctly on the minetest config side |
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Pie-jacker875 |
it's an issue with my router and network |
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Pie-jacker875 |
I saw it working for a few hours like a week ago after restarting something and then the next reboot it stopped working |
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p_gimeno |
I'm in :) |
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DS-minetest |
is someone else getting these assertion fails in minimal, too? |
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p_gimeno |
DS-minetest: which ones? |
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DS-minetest |
/minimal/mods/default/init.lua:1882 |
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DS-minetest |
minetest.get_craft_result fails for cooking cobble |
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DS-minetest |
but it only happens the first time i enter my world |
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DS-minetest |
(and again after I restart minetest) |
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p_gimeno |
DS-minetest: devoid of context (e.g. repro steps, issue #) I don't get any assertion failure |
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DS-minetest |
well, maybe it's not failing in master, i just discovered it in a fork (however I did not edit any code that has something to do with crafting) |
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p_gimeno |
DS-minetest: I'm a bit confused at this point. IIUC the repro steps would be: 1) create a world with game minimal; 2) try to cook cobble, 3) watch the assertion failure. Is that right? |
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DS-minetest |
no |
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DS-minetest |
1)create a minimal world 2)click on play 3)exit minetest to os 4)restart minetest 5)select the world and click play->assertion failure 6)click on play again->no assertion failure |
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p_gimeno |
I don't get an assertion failure with these steps |
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DS-minetest |
i do |
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DS-minetest |
are you on master? |
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DS-minetest |
there are recent changes to crafting afaik |
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p_gimeno |
yes I'm on master |
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DS-minetest |
does someone know why irr::gui::IGUIEnvironment::addImage is not used for the image formspec element? |
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p_gimeno |
I've rewound to stable-5, no problems there either |
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p_gimeno |
(and I've never dug into the GUI code - which is good for my sanity for what I've heard) |
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Pie-jacker875 |
I haven't messed with minecarts before |
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DS-minetest |
actually I think the the GUI code is one of the easier parts of minetest |
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Pie-jacker875 |
can anyone recommend a track design, like how much powered rail to use? |
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DS-minetest |
and it's hard to break anything |
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DS-minetest |
(because it is already a mess and you can't make it worse) (noo, no no it's not that bad) |
| 19:15 |
DS-minetest |
there's always a way to make something worse |
| 19:15 |
DS-minetest |
I can't reproduce the assertion fail in master |
| 19:25 |
DS-minetest |
the minetest build where I was able to reproduce, had USE_LUAJIT=1 |
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DS-minetest |
p_gimeno: did you try to reproduce with or without luajit? |
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MinetestBot |
[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest_game: Allow overriding default.after_place_leaves and default.grow_sapling 0f771a2 https://git.io/fjzw9 (2019-06-07T19:35:24Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Large cactus schematic: Don't force-place root node ca7c131 https://git.io/fjzwH (2019-06-07T19:34:13Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] DS-Minetest -> minetest/minetest: Remove modstore leftovers. Fix core.show_path_select_dialog documenta… 2ba6785 https://git.io/fjzrO (2019-06-07T20:12:20Z) |
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p_gimeno |
DS-minetest: I never ever use PUC Lua |
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DS-minetest |
puc? |
| 20:31 |
DS-minetest |
pure uncompiled? |
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rubenwardy |
it's a organisation |
| 20:32 |
rubenwardy |
the org that does vanilla Lua |
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p_gimeno |
^ yet |
| 20:32 |
p_gimeno |
^that* |
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rubenwardy |
there are two different intepreters for Lua: PUC Lua and LuaJIT |
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rubenwardy |
PUC Lua is usually just called Lua |
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DS-minetest |
ah, ok, thanks |
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rubenwardy |
but Lua is also the specification of the language created by PUC |
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p_gimeno |
I can't remember what it stands for, but it's the university where Lua was created |
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p_gimeno |
"Pontifical Catholic University of Rio de Janeiro", Google says |
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clyde |
i'm here |
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fwhcat |
hey |
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clyde |
xban has crashed now the server |
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clyde |
or have to say, the gui |
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fwhcat |
can you paste the error from your debug.txt file ? |
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clyde |
nothing is at the log |
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clyde |
strange, have no debug at the game-directory |
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fwhcat |
:| |
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fwhcat |
how do you start the server ? |
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clyde |
oh yeah, now i found the entry |
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clyde |
2019-06-07 22:50:26: ACTION[Main]: Server: Shutting down |
| 20:58 |
clyde |
2019-06-07 22:50:26: ACTION[Main]: [fishing] Server shuts down. saving trophies table |
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clyde |
2019-06-07 22:50:27: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: ServerThread::run Lua: Runtime error from mod 'xban2' in callback on_chat_message(): ...local/share/minetest/games/Civ_reload/mods/xban2/gui.lua:12: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
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clyde |
2019-06-07 22:50:27: ERROR[Main]: stack traceback: |
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clyde |
2019-06-07 22:50:27: ERROR[Main]: [C]: in function 'pairs' |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome |
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clyde |
2019-06-07 22:50:27: ERROR[Main]: ...local/share/minetest/games/Civ_reload/mods/xban2/gui.lua:12: in function 'make_list' |
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clyde |
2019-06-07 22:50:27: ERROR[Main]: ...local/share/minetest/games/Civ_reload/mods/xban2/gui.lua:32: in function 'get_state' |
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clyde |
2019-06-07 22:50:27: ERROR[Main]: ...local/share/minetest/games/Civ_reload/mods/xban2/gui.lua:54: in function 'make_fs' |
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clyde |
2019-06-07 22:50:27: ERROR[Main]: ...local/share/minetest/games/Civ_reload/mods/xban2/gui.lua:138: in function 'func' |
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clyde |
2019-06-07 22:50:27: ERROR[Main]: /usr/local/share/minetest/builtin/game/chatcommands.lua:30: in function </usr/local/share/minetest/builtin/game/chatcommands.lua:9> |
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fwhcat |
oh, please avoid pasting so much lines |
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clyde |
2019-06-07 22:50:27: ERROR[Main]: /usr/local/share/minetest/builtin/game/register.lua:419: in function </usr/local/share/minetest/builtin/game/register.lua:399> |
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fwhcat |
use a paste service |
| 20:58 |
fwhcat |
!paste |
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clyde |
oh, i'm sory |
| 20:59 |
clyde |
!paste |
| 20:59 |
fwhcat |
https://pastebin.com/ for example |
| 20:59 |
clyde |
thx, good to know |
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p_gimeno |
was it a large xban? |
| 20:59 |
clyde |
https://pastebin.com/7DJvSYrS |
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DS-minetest |
haha, shadowbot |
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p_gimeno |
clyde: any other errors in the same log, in previous execution? my money is on this: https://github.com/minetest-mods/xban2/issues/19 |
| 21:02 |
clyde |
i take a look, afaik now, but i will take a look |
| 21:03 |
clyde |
no, no other error, this was, as i tried to execute /xban_gui |
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fwhcat |
on a server i used to help a lot, we used to do daily backups of the xban file |
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fwhcat |
deserialization failed and now it emptied your xban file |
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clyde |
i make every day a backup of the game-directory |
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p_gimeno |
clyde: line 12 of gui.lua does not call pairs, maybe you have an old version? |
| 21:06 |
clyde |
maybe, i think i have to update |
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clyde |
the xban.db is ok |
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clyde |
i've release 845 |
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p_gimeno |
yeah I've changing my mind, xban2#19 is not triggered by /xban_gui |
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p_gimeno |
I have no idea of the release numbering scheme |
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fwhcat |
there are no tags on the git repo |
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fwhcat |
no release either |
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fwhcat |
so, just take the latest code clyde |
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clyde |
i've found it in the mod.conf |
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clyde |
yes, i will update it, true |
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fwhcat |
the mod.conf hasn't been changed in 3 years |
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fwhcat |
:3 |
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clyde |
it's strange, but my version seems another version than at minetest-mods |
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fwhcat |
if you used git clone command on it you can check the remote uri with: git remote -v |
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clyde |
no, i used the downloaded versions |
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clyde |
i've updated it |
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clyde |
ok, now it works well, thank at all |
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p_gimeno |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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fwhcat |
nice ! |
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fwhcat |
=) |
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clyde |
lool |
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dyamon |
hi there! New to minetest modding... I'd like to understand some of the capabilities of the lua api. What if I wanted to scale down the world (in a way that cubes appear smaller). Is there a way to easily do this? Moving the camera and playing with fov is a bit weird and also limited. |
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dyamon |
also I can't really find a way to "force" the third person view |
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p_gimeno |
no, there's no way in the API to scale down the world, and no way to set a view |
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dyamon |
still, there is a 2D subgame and a hexagonal subgame example. I'd have to look into the code, but unless they are just clever hacks something has to be possible! |
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DS-minetest |
how to make a wchar_t * to a core::stringw? |
| 22:46 |
DS-minetest |
never mind, i found a way |
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leo_rockway |
I'm thinking it would be fun to have a game like a dungeon crawler. Like Pixel Dungeon style (not Nethack... that would take 30+ years) |
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leo_rockway |
does anything like that exist? |
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cheapie |
dyamon: local player = minetest.get_player_by_name("whoever");player:set_eye_offset(vector.new(0,50,0),vector.new(0,0,0));player:set_physics_override({speed=6});player:set_properties({collisionbox={-2,-0.5,-2,2,5.5,2},visual_size={x=6,y=6}}) |
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cheapie |
Tweak values to taste. |
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leo_rockway |
I haven't done anything with map generation, but it would be a fun exercise... |
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DS-minetest |
correlation? I don't think so. |
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skibur |
Hello |
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leo_rockway |
hello |
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dyamon |
cheapie: thanks, this feels a bit weird but is a good start, also while you can freely move the eye_offset in first person, it seems like there is a limit for the third person |
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skibur |
Question? I installed the Flatpak version of Minetest. How do I set it up to be a dedicated Minetest server? |
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leo_rockway |
it looks like: minetestserver --worldname $WORLDNAME |
| 23:26 |
leo_rockway |
you'd need to create the world first, apparently. |
| 23:26 |
leo_rockway |
you'd probably want to screen / tmux that. But that's up to you. |
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skibur |
So my installing the Flatpak version, minetestserver will be installed in the /usr/bin directory? |
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skibur |
checking... |
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skibur |
Ok |
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skibur |
leo_rockway, I reinstalling the Flatpak version. |
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leo_rockway |
skibur: I never used Flatpak, so no idea. |
| 23:34 |
leo_rockway |
I'm not sure I understand the benefits of using Flatpak. |
| 23:35 |
leo_rockway |
"The idea of using application containers in GNOME was first proposed in 2013 by Lennart Poettering" that tells me everything I need to know... |
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skibur |
:) |
| 23:37 |
leo_rockway |
I'm not a fan of either Gnome or Poettering. |
| 23:37 |
skibur |
Yeah, Flatpak doesn't have a minetestserver binary. |
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skibur |
just minetest |
| 23:38 |
skibur |
Hum.... |
| 23:41 |
skibur |
Awesome! |
| 23:42 |
skibur |
leo_rockway, flatpak run net.minetest.Minetest --help is a start! |
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skibur |
I'm running CentOS. |
| 23:44 |
leo_rockway |
is there a repo that has current Minetest? I'm guessing no. |
| 23:45 |
skibur |
nope |
| 23:45 |
leo_rockway |
compiling might not be that hard. |
| 23:45 |
leo_rockway |
I compile from git, but I use yaourt for that (I run Artic, an Arch fork) |
| 23:46 |
leo_rockway |
erm... AUR, not yaourt |
| 23:47 |
skibur |
True, but If I can get FP to server Minetest, that would be great. |
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skibur |
Going to need to create a service for systemd |
| 23:48 |
skibur |
np |
| 23:49 |
skibur |
woah, CentOS 7 has minetest at version 0.4.16. :S |
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Calinou |
skibur: the Flatpak contains only a client |
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Calinou |
but you can start a server using it, try "flatpak run net.minetest.Minetest --server" |
| 23:52 |
skibur |
yeah |
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skibur |
I just did |
| 23:52 |
skibur |
So the Flatpak is Client/Server? |
| 23:52 |
skibur |
Is there a Server only FP? |
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