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IRC log for #minetest, 2019-05-19

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01:57 Sveta I read it as 'is having a birthday on the forum'
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02:22 robdrake Hello
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02:57 robdrake Please, if anyone is at keyboard, do you kknow of a good tutorial setup for basic_machines?
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07:26 cheapie Heh, I forgot how... unconventional some of the code in this smoke detector mod is.
07:26 cheapie 'if fire or minetest.get_meta(pos):get_int("agressive") == 0 then'
07:27 cheapie So, yes, the smoke detector activates if it senses fire or of the "agressive" (yes, one G) field in the metadata is 0. Anyone wanna guess what that last part is for? :P
07:27 cheapie or if*
07:34 Krock there's no mod in my collection which would define that metadata field. maybe for fake fire?
07:35 Krock or it's to activate some smoke alarm
08:18 cheapie Krock: It's to activate the smoke detector if someone uses the smoker from this one particularly badly written bees mod on it.
08:18 cheapie Basically, the smoker is supposed to be used to make the bees in a beehive not sting you when you open said hive. It does this by setting "agressive" (the developer can't spell) to 0.
08:18 cheapie But it doesn't actually check first that what you're clicking on is a beehive.
08:19 cheapie So my smoke detector sets "agressive" to 1, and if it becomes 0 then it knows someone clicked on it with a smoker and it activates the alarm.
08:19 cheapie It also activates the alarm if there's a fire, of course.
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09:24 robdrake Please, if anyone is at keyboard, do you kknow of a good tutorial setup for basic_machines?
09:33 robdrake even with the battery not charged, the distributor overheats
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09:40 robdrake and if I set a mesecon signal to the detector, the server crashes
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09:45 robdrake I've been trying to follow the tree harvester diplayed on the forum
09:50 clavi will the server send extra, unneeded files contained in a mod folder to clients?
09:51 Krock only when they're models, sounds or textures
09:52 Krock ..or translations
09:52 clavi e.g. petz contains blender models in the source
09:52 clavi https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=22245
09:52 clavi will these be sent do clients?
09:53 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/server.cpp#L2362-L2369
09:54 clavi ok thanks
09:54 Krock those files will be sent when they're in the directory "textures", "locale", "sounds" or "textures"
09:54 clavi so .blend files won't, that's good
09:54 clavi cause they're pretty large
09:56 robdrake :/
10:03 robdrake removed the basic_machines mod
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10:51 clavi do I need two ports when running two servers on the same IP?
10:51 HDMI_STECKDOSE yes
10:52 HDMI_STECKDOSE for example
10:52 clavi alright
10:52 HDMI_STECKDOSE clavi.de 3000 clavi.de 3001
10:52 HDMI_STECKDOSE so
10:52 clavi yeah I figured, since you can't run two web servers on port 443 at the same time either
10:54 HDMI_STECKDOSE ok dokie
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11:51 jluc 'o
11:52 jluc my son is discovering nodecore game
11:53 Krock !mod nodecore
11:53 MinetestBot Krock: Could not find anything.
11:53 jluc is there a hint on how to build an axe or some other tool ?
11:53 jluc by the way setting gui_scaling did the trick Krock
11:53 jluc (it was previously set to more than 3)
11:54 jluc nodecore is interesting because it breaks the usual UI and start with seemingly totaly new rules
11:54 jluc redefining minetest
11:56 Krock nice
11:56 Krock jluc: the wiki and craft guide mods show the recipe
11:57 jluc nodecore redefines the recipe
11:57 jluc no more crafting table but laying items on the ground next to each others and "hummeling" them
11:58 jluc in some strange way
11:59 jluc but https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?keywords=nodecore has no result
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12:15 Krock maybe it's a custom game?
12:26 clavi how can I give players basic starter items?
12:27 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L42
12:27 clavi thanks
12:27 Krock put the line  initial_stuff = (items here)  into your minetest.conf file and restart the server
12:27 Krock !next
12:27 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
12:31 jluc https://content.minetest.net/packages/Warr1024/nodecore/ is the minetest base page
12:40 jluc Oh this video demonstrates the way to craft "in world" (= without gui)
12:40 jluc https://bovideo.net/playclip/video-236268716b78774a57523077.html
12:40 jluc for the first steps "from start to wood tools"
12:42 jluc it's really surprising
12:51 Krock "The World's Hardest Game - 0 Deaths (1-30) - No Cheating"
13:00 jluc ooops sorry this is not the one.
13:00 jluc https://bovideo.net/playclip/video-23522d3061676e385f384163.html
13:00 jluc should read "from start to wooden tools"
13:03 clavi forum down again?
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13:54 robdrake drat I messed up the channel name
13:55 Krock no, it's fine if you're here
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14:57 clavi where does valleys generate iron? I can't seem to find any
15:01 sfan5 underground, according to the ore definition in minetest_game I'd hope
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15:07 clavi huh, now at Y=-130 there's suddenly iron
15:07 clavi there was copper above it already
15:07 clavi weird
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15:26 Krock that's it
15:27 Krock clavi: that's because the first iron generates below -128m https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua#L732
15:27 Krock however, you might find iron in mapblocks above if these were generated using an older version
15:27 clavi so I guess this is outdated https://wiki.minetest.net/Ores
15:28 Krock yep
15:29 Krock outdated for all mapgens escept mgv6
15:29 Krock with that one you can find iron at -64m
15:29 Krock the depths are different due to the deep tunnels generated by the other mapgens
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15:48 BuckarooBanzai What is the "MultiCraft Creative Server" on the server page: https://i.imgur.com/CEOlLuT.png ? :/
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15:59 sfan5 well it does say what it is
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21:01 tacotexmex Forum is always so slow nowadays -_–
21:02 sfan5 once again, it is time for statistics: https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/serverlist_stats_2019-05-19.txt
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