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14:47 clavi TenPlus1's "Farming Redo" conflicts with the built-in farming from minetest_game, right?
14:48 sfan5 it even has the same name
14:48 sfan5 since you're meant to replace farming with it
14:48 clavi okay
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14:55 clavi can I disable the built-in farming mod in world.mt?
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15:16 clavi so farming redo uses the same names as vanilla farming it seems, not good style imo
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15:27 calcul0n farming_redo is supposed to replace the vanilla mod, they are not compatible
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15:58 clavi alright, thanks
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17:14 p_gimeno clavi: MT mod handling is just that broken, you need to get the warning for it to work
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17:41 dasherk hello.... so i have an odd problem... i can't find any wheat
17:41 dasherk i installed farming_redo from the the forum
17:41 Ingar wheat is bad m'kay
17:41 dasherk im wondering if i botched the wheat block with that maybe?
17:41 dasherk why is wheat bad?
17:43 Ingar it looks like I have forgotten where I've put my minetest build
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18:30 calcul0n dasherk, you should find wheat seeds by chance when digging grass
18:30 calcul0n you have more chances in higher ones
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19:21 MinetestBot [git] HybridDog -> minetest/minetest: Prioritise craft recipes 12e3d3d https://git.io/fj4kP (2019-05-20T18:59:51Z)
19:21 MinetestBot [git] HybridDog -> minetest/minetest: Test crafting hash type only once for a recipe 1604b94 https://git.io/fj4kX (2019-05-20T18:59:36Z)
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20:03 dasherk thanks calcul0n
20:03 dasherk i finally discovered that reading through the mod files lol
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21:03 dasherk so im trying to follow the recipe to make flour... and its not in the crafting guide, and im looking at the wiki
21:03 dasherk and its not working?
21:03 dasherk any ideas?
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21:15 dasherk also... how does taming work
21:15 dasherk anyways, if anyone has time to let me know its much appreciated
21:16 dasherk (the wiki and forums are a little light on info sometimes)
21:17 robdrake sorry to bother, but Please, is there some server setting to keep water from cooling lava?
21:18 calcul0n dasherk, that's weird, you should have the recipe to make flour
21:18 calcul0n it's 4 flour + 1 "mortar and pestle"
21:18 calcul0n *4 wheat
21:18 robdrake I think they left
21:19 calcul0n ho :)
21:20 robdrake I'm just wndering why a water source block on top of a lava xource won't cool the lava to osbsidian
21:20 robdrake I was thinking it was a server setting of mine, idk
21:23 robdrake I've now tried ice on top of the lava block, and water, no luck
21:24 robdrake both things the wiki said would cool lava to obsidian
21:25 calcul0n yeah, i just tried, that's the default behavior
21:26 robdrake not working here, was wondering if it was a server setting of mine
21:28 calcul0n no idea, i just started a single player world with all default settings
21:29 robdrake just looked at minetest.conf.example, no lava settings
21:31 robdrake well, not concerning lava cooling
21:35 robdrake same with me, single player lava cooled instantly, but not on my server...
21:43 robdrake in minetest.conf.example, nothing about lava cooling, or obsidian
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21:50 p_gimeno robdrake: may depend on your mods
21:51 p_gimeno do you have a list?
21:51 robdrake I'm searching all the mod files now, grep -d recurse obsidian *
21:54 p_gimeno that's a verbose way to write rgrep :)
21:54 robdrake for the dreambuilder mods left termbin.com/tqcg
21:55 robdrake other mods termbin.com/gkrh
21:56 p_gimeno are all of them active?
21:56 robdrake yes
21:56 p_gimeno do you use MTG?
21:56 robdrake MTG?
21:57 robdrake what is MTG?
21:57 robdrake I use the minetest game, if that is what you are asking
21:58 p_gimeno yes
21:58 p_gimeno does it match the MT version on the server?
21:58 robdrake uhm, I think so
22:00 robdrake one of my admins compiled 5.1.0, when the clients are 5.0.1...
22:00 robdrake time for me to bust heads
22:00 robdrake thank you for the help p_gimeno
22:00 robdrake and calcul0n
22:01 p_gimeno I don't think that should cause lava not to cool
22:01 p_gimeno sorry for the double negative, I mean I don't think that's the issue
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22:02 robdrake oh?
22:02 robdrake I'm setting the binaries to the same as the client
22:02 robdrake someone went behind my back and made a different server, I am not happy]
22:02 p_gimeno that's a good thing but it won't help with this issue
22:08 p_gimeno lava cooling happens exclusively on the server; the client versions do not matter
22:09 p_gimeno latest development version cools lava just fine, if MTG is up-to-date then the issue must be somewhere else
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22:13 p_gimeno what's your version of dreambuilder? any idea?
22:13 robdrake no, and I had to prune it to reduce loading times, players were complaining
22:14 robdrake sorry VanessaE, we didn't want the kitchen sink
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22:17 p_gimeno unfortunately reading dreambuilder's commit log is very uninformative
22:19 p_gimeno I'm running into the same digistuff issue I reported to cheapie, it seems it's not fixed yet
22:20 cheapie What issue?
22:22 p_gimeno it doesn't work if CURL is disabled
22:22 p_gimeno it doesn't work -> it crashes
22:22 p_gimeno patched it, and 323 warnings later, I've got a running dreambuilder, let me test
22:23 cheapie Running on clients with essential features disabled is not supported.
22:25 cheapie s/clients/servers/, whatever :P
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22:25 p_gimeno robdrake: reproduced. Something in dreambuilder is disabling lava cooling.
22:25 robdrake thank you p_gimeno
22:26 robdrake I just use dreambuilder for a working technic setup
22:26 robdrake and the mescon mods
22:26 cheapie Dreambuilder is supposed to provide its own lava cooling. Is that not working?
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22:26 cheapie (part of its version of gloopblocks)
22:26 robdrake cheapie, I had to prune dreambuilder
22:26 robdrake I  may just prune openblocks
22:27 cheapie OK, so you're cutting parts out and being surprised that they don't work. I give up.
22:27 robdrake oh gloopblocks
22:27 p_gimeno cheapie: curl is not that essential, I can play just fine, except digistuff crashes, but everything works otherwise
22:28 cheapie I meant that in response to robdrake and cutting parts out of dreambuilder.
22:28 cheapie But I see no valid reason to disable curl either.
22:29 p_gimeno lava cooling by placing ice or snow on top of lava does not work in dreambuilder
22:31 cheapie Dreambuilder doesn't have that "feature", correct.
22:33 p_gimeno cheapie: "I see no valid reason" != "there is no valid reason"; if there weren't one, it wouldn't be a compilation option. Anyway it's your mod, I won't argue any further. I just thought you would be interested in fixing a potential crash.
22:34 p_gimeno robdrake: placing water on top of lava works for me, by the way
22:34 robdrake oh ok
22:34 p_gimeno in DB
22:35 robdrake I'm removing dreambuilder, and manually adding the mods I want
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