| Time |
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Nezrok |
Hmm |
| 00:01 |
nri |
I did not want Multi to set it to invite only |
| 00:01 |
nri |
i was an operator so why am i locked out? |
| 00:01 |
Nezrok |
Wasn't my idea :p |
| 00:01 |
Nezrok |
Lemme think |
| 00:02 |
nri |
Well if you see Multi can you ask him please? |
| 00:02 |
Emerald2 |
Do you have permanent ops or was it just temp? |
| 00:03 |
nri |
i dont know it was probably temp i guess |
| 00:03 |
Emerald2 |
That'd be why you can't get back in. :/ |
| 00:04 |
nri |
yes |
| 00:05 |
Nezrok |
-> 4/19/2019 8:05:25 PM - INVITE nri #NRI-Creative |
| 00:05 |
Nezrok |
<- 4/19/2019 8:05:25 PM - :orwell.freenode.net 482 Nezrok #NRI-Creative :You're not a channel operator |
| 00:05 |
Nezrok |
Yep, nothing I can do for ya until mcm shows up |
| 00:06 |
nri |
yeah |
| 00:06 |
nri |
thnx |
| 00:07 |
p_gimeno |
nri: if it's in freenode, register the channel |
| 00:08 |
nri |
how do i do that? im locked out until Multi comes on though |
| 00:08 |
p_gimeno |
have a talk with ChanServ, start by /msg ChanServ help |
| 00:08 |
Emerald2 |
It is a registered channel. |
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nri |
I cant invite myself though |
| 00:11 |
Nezrok |
It is registered already |
| 00:11 |
Nezrok |
But to mcm |
| 00:11 |
p_gimeno |
it looks like Multi_ registered it |
| 00:11 |
nri |
yes |
| 00:11 |
nri |
He did it for me |
| 00:12 |
nri |
im the owner of the server its an irc for though |
| 00:12 |
p_gimeno |
well, if Multi_ registered it then there's nothing to do until Multi_ is around |
| 00:12 |
nri |
i see |
| 00:13 |
nri |
thnk guys |
| 00:13 |
nri |
*thnx |
| 00:14 |
Nezrok |
If you want, you can always make a new one :p |
| 00:14 |
Nezrok |
And just transfer the irc bot over to it |
| 00:15 |
nri |
yes i just did its called #NRI_Creative |
| 00:15 |
nri |
join it |
| 00:15 |
nri |
i own it |
| 00:15 |
Nezrok |
Would take all of two minutes |
| 00:15 |
Nezrok |
Eh that's the one we had before |
| 00:15 |
nri |
Multi will have to join it |
| 00:15 |
Nezrok |
Oh a _ |
| 00:15 |
Nezrok |
Not a - |
| 00:15 |
nri |
no instead of - _ |
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nri |
/msg ChanServ help commands |
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trom_ |
is it same ? pointed_thing.above and minetest.get_pointed_thing_position(pointed_thing, above) |
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Emerald2 |
Oh der. Just noticed that in Hades Revisited only the fancy bed requires red wool, so I can make the basic bed. |
| 01:36 |
Emerald2 |
Now I have my spawn position set, phew. |
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powerolive |
hi |
| 01:49 |
powerolive |
does minetest 5.0.1 follows to |
| 01:49 |
powerolive |
the curl of the systemwide proxy |
| 01:51 |
powerolive |
i think rubenwardy will block my full ip range |
| 01:52 |
powerolive |
i mean the socks5 proxy set systemwide |
| 01:52 |
powerolive |
pptp l2tp certainly work through |
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powerolive |
hi |
| 01:57 |
powerolive |
bye |
| 01:57 |
powerolive |
ok |
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rubenwardy |
yay ban evader |
| 02:28 |
Emerald2 |
What was he even trying to ask? |
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rubenwardy |
Emerald2: he was trying to change his IP address to ban avade |
| 02:32 |
Emerald2 |
Evade ban from what? |
| 02:32 |
rubenwardy |
my Minetest server |
| 02:32 |
Emerald2 |
Oh yeah CTF. |
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swift110-phone__ |
What's the official minetest for android? I just got a new phone |
| 04:26 |
cheapie |
I *think* it was the one that had some weird author like "Loic Blot" or something, but don't quote me on that :P |
| 04:29 |
Emerald2 |
You mean nerzhul? |
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norkle |
ova 1500 connections ty! |
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sofar |
rubenwardy: powerolive... that name rings a bell, pretty sure they at least got a warning on ITB as well |
| 06:26 |
ANAND |
He was banned on CTF for vulgar chat |
| 06:26 |
ANAND |
Like, really vulgar and inappropriate |
| 06:36 |
ANAND |
The ban was around 6-8 months ago, but he started coming back recently. |
| 06:37 |
ANAND |
He uses names like poweroliveban and powerolivehaha, so keep a close eye on such names :P |
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majochup |
heyo, so i watched the video of how ot make a CTF map and i was wondering, can anybody give me the link to the download of the CTF map mod? |
| 12:57 |
majochup |
nvm |
| 13:02 |
VanessaE |
!mod ctf |
| 13:03 |
MinetestBot |
VanessaE: CTF PvP Engine [ctf_pvp_engine] by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6947 |
| 13:03 |
VanessaE |
maybe that? |
| 13:03 |
rubenwardy |
!mod [capturetheflag] |
| 13:03 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: CaptureTheFlag [capturetheflag] by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=12835 |
| 13:03 |
majochup |
i already found it, thanks tho |
| 13:03 |
majochup |
i have minetest 5.0.0 installed with a flatpack, how to add mods to it? |
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kurtzmusch |
!api |
| 13:14 |
MinetestBot |
Someone thinks you should read the API docs, please go to: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt |
| 13:15 |
ANAND |
majochup: Add mods to ~/.minetest/mods/ folder. Create that folder if it doesn't. |
| 13:15 |
ANAND |
Hmm, is the flatpack version run-in-place? |
| 13:15 |
majochup |
ANAND, the .minetest folder only works on 4.17 |
| 13:16 |
majochup |
to boot Minetest 5.0.0 up with the flatpack you have to use a command in the terminal |
| 13:16 |
majochup |
or just click it if it's between your games list |
| 13:16 |
ANAND |
I see. Any idea where it's located? |
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majochup |
ANAND: what do you mean with "where it's located"? |
| 13:18 |
ANAND |
What's the path to the executable? |
| 13:18 |
majochup |
lemme see hold on |
| 13:18 |
majochup |
it's |
| 13:18 |
majochup |
home/majochup/.minetest |
| 13:19 |
majochup |
i think |
| 13:19 |
ANAND |
That's not the path to the executable... Do you have any singleplayer worlds in 5.0.0? |
| 13:20 |
ANAND |
If yes, check if the worlds are present in ~/.minetest/worlds |
| 13:20 |
majochup |
hold on |
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| 13:20 |
ANAND |
If they are, you can simply paste the mods in ~/.minetest/mods |
| 13:20 |
majochup |
1 world yes |
| 13:21 |
majochup |
and yes the world is present in the .minetest/worlds file |
| 13:22 |
majochup |
but |
| 13:22 |
majochup |
i have the mods in the .minetest/mods file |
| 13:22 |
majochup |
but if i click "configure" in minetest while the world is selected on 5.0 it doesn't show any of the downloaded mods |
| 13:22 |
majochup |
it just shows "minetest game mods" |
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ANAND |
Do you have any mods in that folder? |
| 13:32 |
ANAND |
If not, you need to add some mods first :P |
| 13:37 |
kurtzmusch |
majochup: did you install any mods with the in-game installer? |
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Silizium |
Quick question about "gameplay": if I want to grow a tree under earth, can I do it? Is there some artificial "sun" source of light available? Or have I build that thing by hand? |
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galaxie |
Use Magic-Gro(tm). |
| 14:19 |
Silizium |
Magic-Gro? :D Sounds like something a hippie would plant in his backyard. |
| 14:20 |
galaxie |
I wonder if there is a mod with something like that. That'd be cool. I know bone meal in MC did something similar. |
| 14:21 |
Silizium |
There is bone meal in some mods, but I never stumbled over magic-gro yet. Which mod is that in? |
| 14:21 |
galaxie |
It was a joke. For dirt that used to have grass, rather than watching it grow ('tis boring), I simply replaced it with grass block when I could. Not sure about trees. |
| 14:23 |
Silizium |
Well, trees can grow by Lua if you are admin/server priv, but I thought about if one of my players can manage that. I mean, the really vast underground is one of the greatest strength of Minetest. |
| 14:23 |
Silizium |
You can actually build your own Kaer with it. |
| 14:24 |
galaxie |
I'm sure you could mod it to where trees magically grow when you give it bone meal. |
| 14:24 |
Silizium |
Okay. Thanks. I just didn't want to code something that was already done. |
| 14:25 |
Silizium |
But if you are 2km below the surface, you actually want to have something you can eat. |
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| 14:29 |
Silizium |
And something like these wonderful "Kaer" like ruins/structures. Like this http://art-of-illlustration.tumblr.com/image/43606574804 |
| 14:29 |
Krock |
artificial light cannot reach the sunlight level |
| 14:29 |
Krock |
otherwise it would wreck the light calculation |
| 14:30 |
Silizium |
Yeah, I already tried to stuff the room full with torches or Meselamps or whatever is the bright. Didn't help. |
| 14:30 |
Krock |
tree saplings require light level >= 13 |
| 14:31 |
Krock |
whereas the torch only provides 12 |
| 14:31 |
Krock |
maybe it's possible with something like the super glow glass from moreblocks |
| 14:32 |
Krock |
placed on a side of the sapling |
| 14:32 |
Silizium |
I found light level 14 in colorcubes, yes. |
| 14:32 |
Krock |
that'll help. it must be as close to the sapling as possible |
| 14:32 |
Krock |
also ensure there's enough space for the tree to grow and no intersecting protection |
| 14:32 |
ANAND |
Light from mese lamps is quite adequate when they (yes, more than one) are right next to the seed/seedling |
| 14:37 |
Silizium |
And an other question: if I try to open doors with Mesecon-signals, my server goes "gone fishing" |
| 14:38 |
Silizium |
Which is quite dangerous and unsafe, I'm happy my players didn't find out yet. |
| 14:40 |
Silizium |
Funny thing: sometimes it works, sometimes the server crashes. Simple try: place a pad in front of a door, step on it, watch the server reboot. |
| 14:46 |
ANAND |
Shouldn't happen... Any errors in debug.txt? |
| 14:46 |
Silizium |
Second I'll go and reiterate the crash. |
| 14:47 |
Silizium |
Where is debug.txt stored usually? |
| 14:47 |
Silizium |
found |
| 14:48 |
Krock |
please paste it to an online service |
| 14:48 |
Krock |
the last 20 lines should be fine |
| 14:48 |
Krock |
most likely an MTG and/or mesecons update will already solve the crash |
| 14:48 |
ANAND |
Silizium: If system-wide install - ~/.minetest/ or <minetest_dir> |
| 14:49 |
Silizium |
2019-04-20 16:48:54: ERROR[Main]: Access denied. Reason: This server has experienced an internal error. You will now be disconnected. |
| 14:50 |
Silizium |
Nothing else. But I didn't start with debug level. |
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Silizium |
Using standard door + wooden pressure pad |
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p_gimeno |
Silizium: that looks like the client log, not the server log |
| 14:54 |
Silizium |
Ow of course. |
| 14:54 |
Silizium |
Second |
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Silizium |
019-04-09 16:00:25: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: environment_Step: Runtime error from mod 'mesecons' in callback environment_Step(): ...anno/.minetest/games/ratsnest/mods/default/functions.lua:572: core.check_player_privs expects a player or playername as argument. |
| 14:57 |
Silizium |
2019-04-09 16:00:25: ERROR[Main]: stack traceback: |
| 14:57 |
Silizium |
2019-04-09 16:00:25: ERROR[Main]: [C]: in function 'error' |
| 14:57 |
Silizium |
2019-04-09 16:00:25: ERROR[Main]: /usr/local/share/minetest/builtin/game/misc.lua:11: in function 'check_player_privs' |
| 14:57 |
Silizium |
As you can see the door checks for the player but the pad is not a player and so it crashes. |
| 14:58 |
Silizium |
I did cut the rest of the carp |
| 15:00 |
p_gimeno |
hm, custom game... too many factors could be into play. Is there a stack trace line for the mesecons mod? |
| 15:01 |
p_gimeno |
or does the log end there? |
| 15:02 |
Krock |
that's indeed a poor backtrace |
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Krock |
at least we know that it's a minetest.after() or minetest.register_globalstep() callback |
| 15:02 |
Silizium |
I can dump everything here, I just thought that wouldn't be polite. |
| 15:02 |
Krock |
hence ><Krock> please paste it to an online service |
| 15:03 |
Krock |
pastebin.com paste.debian.com |
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Krock |
*debian.net |
| 15:03 |
p_gimeno |
http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 15:03 |
Silizium |
yeah, just a sec |
| 15:03 |
Krock |
ninjas everywhere |
| 15:03 |
p_gimeno |
lol |
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Silizium |
http://paste.debian.net/1078636/ |
| 15:07 |
Silizium |
I'm driving a Linux based dev server and the standard mesecons/repository. |
| 15:07 |
Silizium |
Based x86_64 |
| 15:08 |
Silizium |
But it's certainly a bug in the mesecons, I guess. Or door? Well, whoever checks where that signal comes from and assumes it would be a player (it as a pad) so that it crashes here. |
| 15:08 |
Silizium |
Because access to non existant member of the object. |
| 15:08 |
Silizium |
Table I mean |
| 15:09 |
p_gimeno |
at first sight, it looks like a bug in basic_machines |
| 15:10 |
Silizium |
Okay, I can kill basic_machines, no prob. Hopefully nothing depends on it. My players still have not used that. |
| 15:11 |
Silizium |
Checking, just a sec |
| 15:13 |
Silizium |
Yes |
| 15:13 |
Silizium |
That's the error |
| 15:13 |
Silizium |
basic machines must have overwritten the standard door. It works now. |
| 15:14 |
Silizium |
Without crashing |
| 15:15 |
Silizium |
Thanks. Oh. New feature: player data? |
| 15:17 |
Krock |
meanwhile I did some research and figured out that such a crash does not happen as long the functions stay unaltered |
| 15:17 |
Krock |
yeah, makes sense that basic_machines causes issues |
| 15:17 |
Krock |
need a fix for that? |
| 15:17 |
Krock |
!mod basic_machines |
| 15:17 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: basic_machines [basic_machines] by rnd - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=12033 |
| 15:18 |
Silizium |
Well, yes. I can throw away the repository version and swing to his github. |
| 15:20 |
Krock |
although the mod seems to create a "valid" fake player https://github.com/ac-minetest/basic_machines/blob/master/mesecon_doors.lua#L22 |
| 15:21 |
Silizium |
Maybe the repository version is older than his github? |
| 15:21 |
Silizium |
I found some differences with other mods already. |
| 15:22 |
Krock |
https://github.com/ac-minetest/basic_machines/commit/c55d2d6a4a |
| 15:22 |
Krock |
that means it's older than a year |
| 15:22 |
Krock |
nvm. https://github.com/ac-minetest/basic_machines/commit/bc9ea4c35 |
| 15:23 |
Krock |
older than 9 months |
| 15:23 |
Krock |
the false-> true change fixes your issue |
| 15:24 |
Silizium |
I will soon have a nice update for the basic_robot, I already did a fine bresenham line coroutine, that can be used in loops for my pupils. I still need a 3d quadratic spline though, didn't find time yet. There are no sane implementations of that around so I have to do it from scratch. |
| 15:25 |
Silizium |
Funny the basic_machine thing will only open it then leave it open now. A second step on the pad closes. Maybe I take out the basic_machines then... |
| 15:25 |
Silizium |
Which is a shame. |
| 15:29 |
p_gimeno |
maybe you can comment out line 38 here: https://github.com/ac-minetest/basic_machines/blob/master/init.lua |
| 15:29 |
p_gimeno |
(and maybe line 39 too) |
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Silizium |
done |
| 15:33 |
Silizium |
But going to the easter fire now. I have to fertilize some fields… |
| 15:34 |
Silizium |
One of the things we do here. Go to fires. Find a girl. Dance. Drink. Fertilize fields. |
| 15:56 |
Krock |
p_gimeno: it would work by updating the repo as well |
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p_gimeno |
Krock: I got the impression that Silizium didn't like the basic_machines behaviour of using signals to toggle instead of to open |
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Silizium |
Well, the normal behavior of a pressure pad is: you step on it, the signal opens, you leave it, it closes. So if you step on the pad the door stays open. But of course, you could have a second pad on the other side to close it, yes. But… you can argue about that, but… |
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p_gimeno |
I've tested, commenting out these lines bring back the standard behaviour |
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kurtzmusch |
p_gimeno are you involved in gog or notabug devel? |
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Krock |
inb4> for your and my security I'm not allowed to answer that question |
| 18:35 |
Krock |
jk. I'm interested too, although it's rather unlikely |
| 18:36 |
kurtzmusch |
lwl, whut ?! |
| 18:39 |
p_gimeno |
kurtzmusch: no, but I've contributed issue reports and I was close to providing a PR, why? |
| 18:40 |
kurtzmusch |
i think i saw a repo on your profile there |
| 18:40 |
p_gimeno |
yeah, a fork, it's how you submit PRs :) |
| 18:40 |
kurtzmusch |
but i dont understnad when people are part of a project or just forked it |
| 18:40 |
kurtzmusch |
huuum |
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kurtzmusch |
this is a diferent type of contribution than pushing directly into the master branch? |
| 18:41 |
p_gimeno |
yes, totally |
| 18:41 |
kurtzmusch |
is pull request same as merge merge a branch? |
| 18:42 |
kurtzmusch |
sorry im git newb |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
usually you fork it to propose changes/pull requests |
| 18:42 |
kurtzmusch |
huum |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
pull requests are to be merged or rebase&pushed to the destination (master) branch |
| 18:42 |
kurtzmusch |
i thought fork was more of a rebranding thing |
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kurtzmusch |
where you develop something new from that base code |
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Krock |
generally spoken: to apply your changes to the official repository |
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p_gimeno |
kurtzmusch: https://yangsu.github.io/pull-request-tutorial/ explains some basics |
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Krock |
well, it can also be used to rebrand so you can still get updates from the main/official repository |
| 18:43 |
Krock |
well yeah. a website will most likely explain it better than I do |
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kurtzmusch |
ill lokk that tuto, thanks guise |
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kurtzmusch |
look |
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kurtzmusch |
how come you guys dont play TI |
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kurtzmusch |
ITB |
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kurtzmusch |
great server |
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p_gimeno |
I might at some point, I am currently focused on other stuff and barely play online these days |
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makayabou |
As we "always"? need default game's mods to create games, shouldn't them be released as a modpack, so we easyly fork them, and not the whole default game, and using them as submodules ? |
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Emerald2 |
Hey Wuzzy. Night purple mese monsters. Also an oerikki scared the crap out of me playing at 1am. :P |
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Emerald2 |
Nice* |
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Emerald2 |
I fell in lava and I'm going to be waiting for half of eternity for my cotton to grow. |
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Emerald2 |
Hey Wuzzy. If you're still here. There's a weird difference between the 2 bed recipes in Hades. Fancy bed wants red wool but simple bed uses the new all white wool recipe. |
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Wuzzy |
thats intentional |
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Wuzzy |
because white wool is cheaper |
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Emerald2 |
Much much in Hades. |
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Emerald2 |
They both have the same functionality though, the beds. |
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