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00:27 kurtzmusch i think mineclone2 does it Johnnestempacc
00:27 kurtzmusch you can try to install only the mods you wnat
00:27 kurtzmusch want
00:27 kurtzmusch Johannestempacc ^
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00:42 p_gimeno that's not likely to work
00:42 p_gimeno there's a mod for that designed for MTG, but I can't remember the name
00:44 p_gimeno !mod item_drop
00:44 MinetestBot p_gimeno: Item Drop [item_drop] by Calinou - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9638
00:44 p_gimeno Johannestempacc: I believe it's that one ^
00:44 Johannestempacc Thank you
00:45 p_gimeno um, wait, more modern version: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=16913
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01:07 cimbakahn Is Homedecor and Dreambuilder identical?  Or is Homedecor just inside of Dreambuilder?
01:10 cimbakahn And what is the difference between mesecons and unifiedmesecons?
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01:56 trom_ have any node an unique ID exept a pos ?
01:56 trom_ *except
02:02 trom_ any node that already placed in world and for exaple two default:stone have something different except pos, meta or params
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02:14 p_gimeno trom_: default:stone has one unique id. In general there's an id for every node name.
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02:15 trom_ yes but I imagine something other like unique value per each placed node
02:15 Miami We are looking to fill some Admin,Mod & Builder positions on both our Servers 305.pink:30001(Survival) 305.blue:30000 (Creative)
02:17 p_gimeno trom_: only position is unique in placed nodes. For everything else, any two nodes can have the same values.
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02:23 p_gimeno I've seen mods storing unique ids in metadata, though.
02:32 kurtzmusch i wonder what you are trying to achieve trom_
02:33 Miami We are looking to fill some Admin,Mod & Builder positions on both our Servers 305.pink:30001(Survival) 305.blue:30000
02:35 kurtzmusch !help
02:35 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
02:40 kurtzmusch !b64d Cnl ab nggragvba gb gur zna oruvaq gur phegnva
02:40 MinetestBot kurtzmusch: Failed to handle data
02:41 kurtzmusch !b64e hello
02:41 MinetestBot aGVsbG8=
02:41 kurtzmusch !b64e hello world
02:41 MinetestBot aGVsbG8gd29ybGQ=
02:41 cimbakahn Is Homedecor and Dreambuilder identical?  Or is Homedecor just inside of Dreambuilder?
02:41 cimbakahn And what is the difference between mesecons and unifiedmesecons?
02:43 kurtzmusch !btc
02:43 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 5162.9100 $
02:43 kurtzmusch my dog
02:43 kurtzmusch when will btc stop increasing in value?
02:45 kurtzmusch !mod unifiedmesecons
02:45 MinetestBot kurtzmusch: Could not find anything.
02:45 kurtzmusch !questions
02:45 MinetestBot Someone thinks that your question is inaccurate or doesn't follow the guidelines. Read the guidelines here: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
03:01 Miami https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=22499&p=348261#p348261
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04:35 cimbakahn Is Homedecor and Dreambuilder identical?  Or is Homedecor just inside of Dreambuilder?
04:35 cimbakahn And what is the difference between mesecons and unifiedmesecons?
04:40 Miami We are looking to fill some Admin,Mod & Builder positions on both our Servers 305.pink:30001(Survival) 305.blue:30000
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05:40 dany hi everyone just wanted to say that this project and community has inspired me to learn how to program from the ground up. this is an incredible educational tool.
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09:17 Miami Our Website is Officially Up @ https://305.pink - Join Our Servers Today! We are Looking for Players to Fill Admin,Mod & Builder Positions!
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09:54 fwhcat Miami, that nickname and the Pricedown font remembers me of gta vice city times :)
09:57 Miami @fwhcat exactly
10:00 fwhcat sweet
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10:20 Emerald2 No idea how I never checked out a VanessaE server before. :)
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10:25 VanessaE it's a conspiracy :)
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10:38 ANAND Even the favicon is reminiscent of Vice City :)
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11:50 Emerald2 Hey VanessaE, do ya get many people in basic-plus?
11:51 VanessaE no :(
11:52 Emerald2 I don't think my computer would like me if I tried dreambuilder. :P
11:52 VanessaE you'd be surprised :)
11:52 VanessaE you just need enough RAM, that's about it.
11:52 Emerald2 I don't *have* enough RAM. That's the problem.
11:52 VanessaE all the heavy work is done by the server anyways
11:53 VanessaE give it a try anyway, see if it melts down ;)
11:53 Emerald2 I like it better when it doesn't freeze right up. :P
11:53 Emerald2 LinuxGaming2 spawn was horrid enough.
11:54 Fulgen has anything performance-related been changed between 0.4.17 and 0.5? for example, when I move 40³ blocks with worldedit or use a jumpdrive with radius = 19, in 0.5, it doesn't move the blocks, but stays in a state like the command was taking way too long; with 0.4.17.1, no problems. also, I need to turn down my render distance to ~90 in order to actually play without lag on 0.5
11:57 Calinou FPS has improved quite a bit after upgrading to 5.0.0 here
11:57 Calinou I have an high-end machine though, where FPS was already quite good in 0.4.17
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12:43 ywang Do you recommend any servers?
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12:46 ANAND Can confirm better FPS and even marginally lesser lag overall
12:47 Calinou I played on the CTF server after upgrading to 5.0.0
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13:36 Miami Our Forum & Website Are Now Live @ https://305.pink & https://305.pink/forum, We Are Looking To Fill Admin,Mod & Builder Positions on our servers 305.pink:30001 (Hardcore Survival)  - 305.blue:30000 (Hardcore Creative)
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14:02 kurtzmusch any servers running with only floatlands?
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14:08 twoelk any mobs on pink?
14:15 Mami Yea tons
14:15 Mami On Survival
14:16 Mami 305.pink:30001
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14:55 kiwi_0 need afk mod, the one on the mods page doesn't work
14:58 ANAND !mod afkkick
14:58 MinetestBot ANAND: Afk Kick [afkkick] Automatically kick afk players by GunshipPenguin - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=10919
14:58 ANAND kiwi_0: This is what CTF uses, and it works quite well. Give it a try if you can.
14:59 kiwi_0 i tried both, something about only 0-9 a-z allowed
14:59 kiwi_0 v5.0
15:02 ANAND Ah
15:02 ANAND Remove the `-master` from the mod folder name
15:04 kiwi_0 thx
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15:22 p_gimeno Fulgen: 5.0.0 had a network issue, if you're using it, upgrade to 5.0.1 and the problem may vanish
15:24 Fulgen p_gimeno: I'm playing singleplayer, but I'll check out 5.0.1
15:27 p_gimeno Fulgen: ISTR people were experiencing lag even in singleplayer mode
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15:44 twoelk hm, keep timing out on pink
15:44 Miami Try to connect now we were installing some mods
15:45 twoelk nope
15:45 twoelk worked friday iirc
15:46 Miami Oh our IRC is down atm switching servers
15:46 Miami Should be back up later today
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16:18 nri Hi if you guys want to try out my server its called NRI_Creative on minetset v5 it has 110 pages in the inventory!
16:19 nri *minetest
16:19 rubenwardy doesn't sound like a benefit :D
16:19 rubenwardy I'd really like a nice way of filtering things in creative
16:19 rubenwardy like, by category
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16:21 benrob0329 rubenwardy: indeed
16:23 nri rubenwardy: the 110 pages makes it easier for new players becuase i has alreadt cut pieces from the saw
16:24 benrob0329 No, 110 pages makes it more difficult for everyone to find anyhting
16:24 benrob0329 I can't reasonable browse that big of an inventory
16:25 twoelk filtering by modname might also be usefull
16:25 VanessaE 110 pages, of what size? :)
16:25 benrob0329 if it was split up, e.g. you click on wood and it shows all the cur variations and such that might be nice, but just dumping it out is not helpful
16:26 VanessaE dreambuilder has 110 pages, 80 items apiece (plus a handful on page 111)
16:28 nri yes i have dreambuilder but benrob0329 you can filter by mod
16:28 rubenwardy I'm all for progressive unlocking of content
16:28 rubenwardy but that's more appropriate for survival
16:30 nri well my friends on the server said they like the 110 pages because it has a lot of mods
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16:41 p_gimeno progressive unlocking implies a form of classification, the items you unlock all belong to a group
16:42 p_gimeno now, tabs for mods, and maybe the ability to group several mods in the same tab, that would be cool
16:49 nri Does anyone know how to add an IRC bot to a channel (mine)?
16:49 kurtzmusch !mod dreambuilder
16:49 MinetestBot kurtzmusch: Dreambuilder [20190311-1024][dreambuilder] by VanessaE - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9196
16:50 VanessaE :)
16:51 kurtzmusch is there a way to seem mods on the forum sorted by creation date?
16:51 kurtzmusch popular mods are always on top
16:58 twoelk define creation date :P
16:59 twoelk some mods are very old but up to date while others are just a few months old but allready oudated by mt5
16:59 rubenwardy kurtzmusch: https://content.minetest.net/todo/topics
16:59 rubenwardy offers sorting methods
16:59 rubenwardy you need to be logged in though
16:59 rubenwardy screenshot: https://i.rubenwardy.com/2mUcN.png
17:00 rubenwardy oh, but it will only show topics which haven't been added to cdb yet
17:00 rubenwardy hmmm
17:00 rubenwardy https://content.minetest.net/todo/topics/?show_added=true
17:00 rubenwardy there you are ^
17:00 rubenwardy undocumented feature
17:00 rubenwardy there's also this, which is available even when you're not logged in:
17:00 rubenwardy https://content.minetest.net/api/topics/?show_added=true
17:02 rubenwardy sorted by date rather than name: https://content.minetest.net/api/topics/?show_added=true&sort=date&order=asc
17:02 rubenwardy you can also sort by "views" and "name"
17:03 rubenwardy the date for this is updated daily at 1am UTC
17:03 rubenwardy *data
17:04 twoelk from riesenpilz to pillar api - 7 years of minetest mods :-D
17:06 rubenwardy oldest one on the list is actually this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=521
17:06 rubenwardy !topic
17:06 rubenwardy !title
17:06 MinetestBot rubenwardy: [Mod] Magic Lantern [magic_latern] - Minetest Forums
17:06 rubenwardy that topic is discarded"Show discarded"
17:06 rubenwardy https://content.minetest.net/todo/topics/?show_added=true&show_discarded=true
17:07 rubenwardy wait, nevermind
17:07 rubenwardy more blocks beats that by one day
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17:09 twoelk there's a nice example - moreblocks is rather well maintained while magiclamp probably abandoned since years
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17:14 twoelk the list of mods used on servers, randomly published and updatet by sfan is probably currently the best source for knowing which mods are not only popular but actually used
17:15 sfan5 updating it would be a good idea now
17:15 AceNovo Where is it? :)
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17:19 kurtzmusch why i need to be loged in to list mods by a criteria?
17:21 kurtzmusch oh, the api thing is suficient
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17:26 twoelk https://wiki.minetest.net/File:Modsonservers.png old versions
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17:33 twoelk yay! - wiki is updated, that was fast; thx sfan
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17:38 twoelk hm, I would have expected <no guests> in that list
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19:33 kurtzmusch so, on_rightclick for a node doesnt get callled if im wielding a node with a defined on_place
19:34 kurtzmusch is this a bug?
19:39 sofar the on_place code needs to decide whether to call the targeted node's on-rightclick, or not
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19:42 kurtzmusch huuum
19:43 kurtzmusch thats no good because on_place doesnt get called for all situations
19:51 sofar well, there's lots of code like this in mtg and itb
19:51 sofar e.g. to handle buttons while holding items that can be placed everywhere
19:52 kurtzmusch ill take a look
20:22 kurtzmusch so, there is a workaround but its lame because i would have to invert the right and left clicks
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21:16 paramat !tell Miami please stop spamming the channel with your request "We are looking to fill some Admin,Mod & Builder positions on both our Servers", once a day is more than enough, even better, post in the forum instead
21:16 MinetestBot paramat: I'll pass that on when Miami is around
21:17 paramat FFS >_>
21:24 kurtzmusch i was wondering how long that was going to las
21:24 kurtzmusch last
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23:52 cimbakahn Is Homedecor and Dreambuilder identical?  Or is Homedecor just inside of Dreambuilder?  And what is the difference between mesecons and unifiedmesecons?
23:53 cimbakahn and MoreMesecons?
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