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00:18 p_gimeno cimbakahn: sorry, it works for me so no idea
00:19 cimbakahn p_gimeno: I tryed everything.  I tryed killing myself, and i tryed TNT boxes, and i couldn't get out, so i had to delete the world.
00:20 cimbakahn p_gimeno: Try the helocopter in the Why Not sub game.
00:21 p_gimeno delete the world is a bit too radical... why not just disable the mod?
00:22 cimbakahn p_gimeno: How did you get out of the helocopter you were in?
00:22 cimbakahn p_gimeno: Which buttons did you use?
00:23 p_gimeno cimbakahn: I turned so I was at 45° with respect to the axes, and looked down. The box appeared I rightclicked and I was free.
00:23 p_gimeno I'm talking about the small helicopter in the vehicles mod, not the Apache helicopter.
00:27 cimbakahn p_gimeno: Still, i tryed that and it didn't work.
00:27 p_gimeno well, maybe that game has a different version
00:28 p_gimeno I'm not going to install the game just to try, sorry
00:28 cimbakahn p_gimeno: Ok.
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00:51 Daisae Can a basket be made in MT5.0?  HDX textures has bushes_basket and there is a basket in the bushes_classic, but I see no basket listed in Unified Inventory.  VanessaE?
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04:59 VanessaE Daisae: I have no clue there :P  the basket should show up just fine in the inventory, as it hasn't been changed in a dog's age.  I see it just fine here.
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05:00 Pentium44 Fuck
05:02 VanessaE wat
05:02 VanessaE no way
05:09 Pentium44 Lol, I'm a traitor!
05:09 VanessaE you heretic
05:09 VanessaE :P
05:11 Pentium44 How've you been BTW
05:11 Pentium44 It's been one long minute since I've been back into the community... Minetest is still developing along :P
05:11 VanessaE been about as okay as usual.
05:13 Emerald2 Dang where'd I put my torch and pitchfork? :P
05:15 VanessaE they're in default, duh. :)
05:15 VanessaE I mean come on, we've had torches for HOW long now? :)
05:27 Emerald2 lol :)
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08:02 kiwi_47 im lost, how do i find my place back? game is mineclone2
08:22 fruitsnack You can try navigating with in-game coordinates
08:22 fruitsnack press f5 to enable overlay
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08:56 kiwi_47 about mods
08:56 Emerald2 What about mods?
08:56 kiwi_47 can i add v5.0 mods to mineclone2 or i have to enable them?
08:57 kiwi_47 it's a bit empty by default
08:58 kiwi_47 not sure how this works
09:01 Emerald2 I'm not familiar with mineclone so can't help, sorry. Maybe somebody else can.
09:15 kiwi_47 what about in general
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09:22 majochup rehi
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09:23 Emerald2 kiwi just mods and games in general?
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10:09 kiwi_47 Emerald2 yes
10:09 Emerald2 5.0 has the content database.
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11:32 Emerald2 Hey Wuzzy.
11:32 Wuzzy hi
11:32 Emerald2 Yo kiwi_47 you still here?
11:32 kiwi_47 ye
11:32 Emerald2 You had questions about mineclone2, yeah?
11:33 kiwi_47 yes, im not sure what do i do once i have unziped and started the game, for mobs etc
11:33 Emerald2 Ask Wuzzy. :)
11:34 Wuzzy what is the question?
11:36 kiwi_47 i see mods directory, do i need to additionally download animal packs and how to enable
11:36 kiwi_47 im in your channel too btw, can talk there
11:38 kurtzmusch just install from the content tab bro
11:39 Wuzzy where did you put the mineclone2 folder?
11:40 Wuzzy no, you do not need to install extra mods
11:40 Wuzzy MineClone 2 is a real game, unlike Minetest Game
11:43 kiwi_47 kurtzmusch i don't have xorg :)
11:43 Daisae What are the mods with the animals used in animal_materials?
11:43 Emerald2 You mean you're running MT from a server?
11:47 Wuzzy kiwi_47: xorg??? how are you going to play MT then? o_O
11:50 kurtzmusch i didnt know mt could run cli
11:50 * Emerald2 was assuming MT server.
11:50 kurtzmusch i didnt know we could lunch a server without the gui
11:52 kiwi_47 --server --quiet
11:52 Wuzzy kiwi_47: https://wiki.minetest.net/Games#Installing_games
11:53 kurtzmusch nice
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11:54 TheNiceLemon hi everyone
11:55 VanessaE hi
11:56 TheNiceLemon how are you
11:57 VanessaE I'm okay.
12:00 Emerald2 Hi Lemon.
12:00 TheNiceLemon Hi Emerald
12:02 Daisae ERROR[Main]: https://content.minetest.net/api/packages/?type=mod&type=game&type=txp&protocol_version=37&hide=nonfree&hide=desktop_default not found (Failed binding local connection end)
12:03 Daisae When I attempt to browse content with version 5.0.1 .  Accessing that same URL with other software works.
12:03 TheNiceLemon my laptop is so bad
12:03 TheNiceLemon so much lag
12:04 TheNiceLemon What do you mean Daisae?
12:05 sfan5 Daisae: operating system? do you have any network-related settings in minetest.conf?
12:05 Daisae Attemting to "Content -> Browse Content" results in a message that it can not connect and that error message to the console.
12:05 TheNiceLemon I am using Windows 7
12:05 Daisae I will move my minetest.conf and retry to be sure.  It is an old version, so I would think it would have no network settings.
12:06 Daisae GNU+linux for me.
12:06 TheNiceLemon let me check it
12:06 TheNiceLemon my minetest.conf is good
12:07 Daisae Starting without a minetest.conf, browsing content connects/works.
12:07 TheNiceLemon ummm
12:07 TheNiceLemon i dont know
12:08 Daisae The text on the 'Back to the Main Menu' is clipped off on the sides unncessarily.
12:09 TheNiceLemon oh sorry sfan5
12:10 TheNiceLemon i didnt know you was saying that to daisae
12:10 sfan5 Daisae: could you pastebin your minetest.conf somewhere?
12:11 Daisae Sure, So far, I see i had  curl_parallel_limit = 1  .
12:11 TheNiceLemon i recommend hastebin to do that
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12:14 TheNiceLemon bye everyone
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12:18 Daisae I found it. I had bindaddress set to localhost for security because I never used minetest remotely.
12:18 Daisae sfan5:
12:19 sfan5 right
12:29 Calinou shouldn't bind_address only impact servers?
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12:46 Daisae Calinou: I sometimes ran it as a server and client, connecting with a different user name.
12:46 Daisae What are lucky blocks?
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12:52 Krock !mod lucky blocks
12:52 MinetestBot Krock: Could not find anything.
12:52 Krock !mod lucky
12:52 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13284
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12:54 AceNovo I think it'll be ok as long as my kid doesn't that. LOL
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13:11 p_gimeno that doesn't describe what they are, only that they originated in MC... and I'd like to know what they are too
13:15 AceNovo Not sure about this implementation... The YouTubers my kid watches get whacky OP items and ridiculous quantities of resources that they trade with villagers to round out their kit then they fight some other ridiculously OP boss and see who survives the longest
13:19 Krock from what I've seen on a server, it's mostly handy items but nothing very worthy
13:19 Krock such as bread, simple toos, animals, ..
13:21 AceNovo Not gamebreaking here, then. The spawn would be disappointed LOL
13:40 Daisae Krock: toos = ?
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13:51 Krock Daisae: *tools
13:51 Krock ofc not toes
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14:40 p_gimeno ah thanks
15:50 kurtzmusch a mod that adds toes would be nice though
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15:58 kiwi_47 is there a command to see which game is used
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16:03 Krock kiwi_47: context? while playing in multiplayer? checking a local world?
16:03 Krock or do you mean the .conf setting for that?
16:04 kiwi_47 online
16:04 kiwi_47 public
16:04 kiwi_47 im not sure if im running mineclone2
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16:18 Miami Hey everyone
16:19 Miami Looking for Mods an Builders for our 2 Servers 305.pink:30001(Survival) and 305.blue:30000 (Creative)
16:19 Ruslan1 Hello
16:21 Krock hi
16:21 Krock kiwi_47: hit F5 and check out the texture names
16:21 Krock or /mods to list the enabled mods
16:21 Krock and guess the game from that list
16:24 kiwi_47 i guess it's not mineclone because i didn't use --gameid
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16:34 Wuzzy kiwi_47: well if there is a mod that starts with "mcl_" then its MCL2
16:40 kiwi_47 hm yes not running mineclone2, --gameid lists MineClone so i suppose i should use that but will that mess up the current minetest/minimal world
16:41 kiwi_47 or how do i backup the game progress so far
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16:52 Miami Looking for Admins and Builders for our 2 Servers 305.pink:30001(Survival) and 305.blue:30000 (Creative)
16:53 kiwi_47 is all data under ~/.minetest/
16:57 Daisae What is the default burn time?
16:57 Daisae in a furnace
17:02 Daisae VanessaE: I think 1 oil for 6 leaves would be better because leaves are easy to gather and oil is otherwise too bountiful a fuel.
17:02 Daisae 6 leaves is 24s burn time. Oil is 30s.
17:03 VanessaE pull requests welcome :P
17:03 VanessaE (basic_materials)
17:03 Daisae It is just changing a single digit in basic_materials/misc.lua , line 44.
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17:04 VanessaE heh ok
17:04 VanessaE done.
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17:30 Krock oil is way too cheap anyway
17:31 VanessaE well the price just tripled :P
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17:49 Krock nice
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18:08 kurtzmusch is it possible to get a callback for when you right click with a node?
18:08 kurtzmusch its not right click on the node, but with it wielded
18:08 sofar That's on_place
18:09 kurtzmusch on_place doesnt always gets called
18:09 sofar On_use then?
18:09 kurtzmusch is use right click?
18:10 sofar Afaik
18:10 kurtzmusch ok, ill try that out
18:10 kurtzmusch thanks
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18:16 kurtzmusch on_use is even worse because its not always called and its not rightclick = (
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18:20 Krock on_use is left click/punch
18:20 cimbakahn How up to date are the mods in synaptic package manager 18.04  ?
18:21 Krock probably quite outdated
18:21 Krock clone from git
18:21 cimbakahn Are the mods in the new 5.0 (under content) newer than the ones in synaptic package manager 18.04  ?
18:25 p_gimeno kurtzmusch: on_rightclick?
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18:33 kurtzmusch that callback is for when you click a node in the world
18:36 kurtzmusch there is no item eat for nodes?
18:46 cimbakahn Are the mods in the new 5.0 (under content) newer than the ones in synaptic package manager 18.04  ?
18:46 Miami Looking for Admins and Builders for our 2 Servers 305.pink:30001(Survival) and 305.blue:30000 (Creative)
18:51 p_gimeno kurtzmusch: I don't think there's a callback for right-clicking a node in the world
18:52 p_gimeno or maybe I'm wrong
18:53 kurtzmusch its such a basic thing...
18:56 p_gimeno I think it's on_place + on_secondary_use, one is for when you're pointing at something and the other when you're not
18:56 p_gimeno so you may need to define both if you want it to work in either situation
18:59 p_gimeno but it applies to items, not nodes
19:01 cimbakahn Miami: I am on your creative server right now.  There isn't very many mods.
19:02 cimbakahn Are the mods in the new 5.0 (under content) newer than the ones in synaptic package manager 18.04  ?
19:09 kurtzmusch p_gimeno can i have itens rendered in the hand like nodes? otherwise this is not a viable workaround
19:10 kurtzmusch also, i read in the api its only called when pointing at nothing
19:11 kurtzmusch i want something that gets called when pointing at something but that doesnt call on_place, like pointing at a slab that has a node on top
19:12 Miami @cimbakahn im currently in the survival server adding mods ill be working on creative next
19:13 cimbakahn Miami: Ok.  I have my own ideas for a server and have been a mod/Admin before on 2 servers.  If you would like any help, let me know.
19:18 kurtzmusch Miami just curious, what your server does diferent then the other 50 survival servers?
19:23 * kurtzmusch reeeeeeee
19:28 kurtzmusch oks, so it turns out on_use is not so bad it does get called when i need it
19:28 kurtzmusch but its still left-click
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19:57 Johannestempacc Hey hey people
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20:12 nri !tell Nezrok i am on my server if you want to come on
20:12 MinetestBot nri: yeah, sure, whatever
20:12 nri Multi__ can you please put a chatbot on my IRC?
20:13 nri the bots getting snippy lol
20:13 nri *bot's
20:13 kurtzmusch <3 MinetestBot
20:13 MinetestBot <3 kurtzmusch
20:13 Johannestempacc Hey I'm gonna be working on a server
20:13 Johannestempacc Uh
20:13 nri i have a server
20:13 Johannestempacc Anyone have any advice for... hosting IDK
20:13 nri i got free hosting from minecity.online but that was a one time deal
20:14 Johannestempacc I hit up a dude who hosts an MC server and I asked him for a comparable gig what set up could hold like 50 people with little to no lag
20:14 Johannestempacc He suggested "Ah 4core 2 GHz 2 gb of ram should be ok"
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20:14 Johannestempacc Yeah I was gonna ask
20:14 nri yeah
20:14 Johannestempacc Like what hosting service could I use
20:14 Johannestempacc That's reasonably priced
20:14 Johannestempacc For the moment there's a bunch of mods me and my guys have to make to make the server work so I don't need much
20:14 Johannestempacc I'm obvs not gonna have 50 people hanging out on it... yet
20:15 nri minecity.online is good
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20:21 Johannestempacc nri It looks like the 30 buck plan even only has 2 cores, not sure how much that'll effect performance
20:21 nri oh ok
20:22 Johannestempacc I only scrutinize this b/c I'm planning on making the final thing capable of hosting a lot of people
20:22 Johannestempacc I might just be tech illiterate and comparing MT to MC too much lol
20:22 Johannestempacc For now though fug it the cheap plan works for testing
20:22 Johannestempacc Thank you so much for the advice my friend
20:29 nri NP
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20:42 cimbakahn Are the mods in the new 5.0 (under content) newer than the ones in synaptic package manager 18.04  ?
20:45 Miami We are looking to fill some Admin,Mod & Builder positions On Both Our Servers 305.pink:30001(Survival)  & 305.blue:30000 (Creative)
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20:55 kurtzmusch anyone knows how the vignette mod was made? its no longer on github
20:57 MinetestBot [git] osjc -> minetest/minetest: Various network performance improvements (#8125) 007ce24 https://git.io/fjmXg (2019-04-14T20:56:38Z)
20:58 p_gimeno Johannestempacc: you only need 2 cores for a server
20:59 p_gimeno kurtzmusch: try vignette redo, https://github.com/kestral246/vignette_redo
21:00 kurtzmusch thanks
21:09 Johannestempacc I asked a buddy of mine and he recommended using this https://lowendbox.com/
21:09 Johannestempacc Looks really good
21:09 Johannestempacc Might be extreme overkill but hey
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21:13 p_gimeno I'd say you need more HD
21:15 Johannestempacc 80 gigs is a lot
21:16 Johannestempacc p_gimeno For the type of server I'm going for I'm going to be restricting the map to maybe 500 vertical and 12000 diameter
21:16 Johannestempacc Blocks/meters
21:16 Johannestempacc More or less
21:17 p_gimeno oh wait, I just saw 6GB SSD
21:18 p_gimeno my bad, yeah the specs and price look good
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21:22 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Attend to review, re-arrange blank lines, update lua_api.txt 38b94f2 https://git.io/fjmXA (2019-04-14T21:21:51Z)
21:22 MinetestBot [git] pgimeno@users.noreply.notabug.org -> minetest/minetest: Fix regression in automatic_face_movement_max_rotation_per_sec 12a6302 https://git.io/fjmXx (2019-04-14T21:21:51Z)
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22:04 cimbakahn Are the mods in the new 5.0 (under content) newer than the ones in synaptic package manager 18.04  ?
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22:07 Calinou cimbakahn: very likely, yes
22:07 Calinou less common packages in Debian/Ubuntu repositories are "frozen" in the sense that they don't receive updates until you upgrade your distribution :)
22:08 Calinou they also tend to lag behind naturally, even if you use an unstable release like Debian testing/sid
22:10 cimbakahn Calinou: Thank you for responding!
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22:34 Miami We are looking to fill some Admin,Mod & Builder positions On Both Our Servers 305.pink:30001(Survival)  & 305.blue:30000 (Creative)
22:38 Emerald2 Make sure you check the reputation of people before you accept them.
22:46 kurtzmusch could anybody explain me minetest.inventorycube(img1, img2, img3)
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23:17 oil_boi_minetest Why does player:get_inventory():set_size("main", 40) not change the inventory size? :o
23:22 Multi__ Miami I can check it out. Still filling in for spots? I am staff on other servers so I doubt I will join a lot but, if there is a IRC I will be happy to sit there and watch chat.
23:22 Multi__ I may join though. Knowing my schedule on other servers well... I may be able to fit it in.
23:22 rubenwardy oil_boi_minetest: there are two parts to the inventory size
23:22 Miami Yea Join in on the Survival Server we will chat there!
23:23 Miami 305.pink:30001
23:23 rubenwardy 1. how big it actually is, in the inventory.   :set_size(list, "")
23:23 rubenwardy 2. how big it is in the GUI, ie: formspec size.    list[x,y;W,H;...]
23:23 Multi__ Miami 5.0 or 4.0?
23:24 Multi__ Eh oh well I will try both :P
23:24 Miami 5.0
23:25 Multi__ Yep just found that out XD
23:27 oil_boi_minetest rubenwardy, Thanks
23:28 Johannestempacc Hey is there a mod out that makes it so items get sucked into nearby players like in MC
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