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IRC log for #minetest, 2019-03-13

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00:00 Emerald2 Sneak elevator is faster to get down than a water elevator, for sure. Unless the lag kills you.
00:01 Emerald2 I'm known to get killed by landing on the edge of a block.
00:01 sodastab yeah
00:01 sodastab much faster to go up than a ladder
00:01 p_gimeno I've noticed that with 64-bit minetest, you get hurt by going down a sneak elevator
00:02 p_gimeno at least on my system, not sure why that is
00:02 p_gimeno does it work for everyone else?
00:02 sodastab used to work for me
00:03 sodastab with the new physics I know you need a bunch of nodes of cushion at the bottom
00:04 Emerald2 Haven't done a sneak elevator in a while.
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00:33 red-045 sneak elevator was changed a while back
00:33 red-045 there was some mild controversy over it being an unintentended glitch
00:45 * cheapie replaces red-045's sneak elevator with a sneaky elevator
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01:31 * benrob0329 replaces cheapie's sneaky elevator with a mesecons elevator
01:31 * cheapie hooks up some digilines to benrob0329's house and turns it into a giant elevator
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03:18 cimbakahn How can i tell which version this is ----> https://imgur.com/a/qTix06p
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03:22 cheapie cimbakahn: It says 0.4.16 in your picture, so probably that one.
03:24 cimbakahn I mean is it V4, V5, V6, OR V7?
03:27 VanessaE looks like mgv6 to me
03:42 cimbakahn VanessaE: Thank you!
03:44 VanessaE ...it was just a guess
03:45 VanessaE not enough info to be anything more than a wild guess.
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06:41 jas_ !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDWrz8Bud2U
06:41 MinetestBot jas_: opaque water glitch - YouTube
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14:28 Niwla Hello
14:29 Niwla I cant write in minetest-dev is that normal?
14:29 rubenwardy yes
14:29 Niwla Ok
14:30 rubenwardy #minetest-dev is for technical discussion
14:30 rubenwardy you can report bugs here
14:30 Niwla is @celleron55 online?
14:30 rubenwardy (to talk in #minetest-dev you need to use a client other than web chat)
14:30 rubenwardy * celeron55
14:35 Niwla Whats the server name?
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14:37 p_gimeno strange question :) what's the server name for what?
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14:39 Niwla oh i have it
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14:39 Niwla Hello again
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15:41 Silizium Can someone give me a hint how to get rid of water sources? I mean I want to delete a 3x3 "permanent" source, is the only way to craft 9 buckets and be very fast? And after that are the buckets unusable until I go somewhere and spam 9 times water?
15:42 p_gimeno use a regular block to replace them, e.g. dirt or wool which are easy to dig back
15:43 Silizium Yeah, tried that already. I'm on that skyblock server of VanessaE. Doesn#t work, I can't place a block into the source.
15:43 VanessaE that's normal for that server.
15:44 VanessaE p_gimeno is correct, for other servers.  on my skyblock, water is not buildable_to.
15:45 Silizium :D Yeah. Uh, so I can't get rid of that crap? Well, buildable, I have "created" a lot of sources without breaking my head because usually they are easy to kill. But now I got a big hole in the floor where I don't want it anymore, hehe.
15:45 VanessaE drop sand or gravel into the water from above.
15:45 Silizium Thanks I try that. :)
15:45 VanessaE (as in place it against a wall a couple meters above the water and let it fall in)
15:46 Silizium perfect
15:46 Silizium Understood, I can work with that
15:56 Silizium Okay interesting experience but didn't work. Whatever. I live with that.
15:56 sofar can't drop sand into it?
15:57 Silizium Tried gravel because i had it lying around.
15:57 sofar does it float on top of the water?
15:57 Silizium Drop from 2m above
15:57 Silizium No. Falling through
15:57 VanessaE good.
15:57 VanessaE now drop more.
15:57 sofar how deep is the water?
15:57 VanessaE pile it up until the water's consumed.
15:57 Silizium Well it is falling from the platform.
15:58 Silizium Oh okay, that's hm
15:58 Silizium ok
15:58 sofar maybe a screenshot would help
15:58 VanessaE no need
15:58 sofar if the water is 2+ deep, drop more?
15:58 VanessaE I know what he's dealing with :)
15:58 sofar we assumed it was just 1 deep
15:58 sfan5 the water source extends into the "void" so anything you drop will fall endlessly?
15:59 sofar is flowing water not buildable_to either?
15:59 sofar last resort: TNT it away
15:59 sofar (YMMV)
15:59 Silizium I already solved that one mostly. I used the lava stream to more or less create a bottom
15:59 VanessaE nope, and no TNT either btw
16:00 Silizium I guided it by creating basalt and that other stuff.
16:00 VanessaE sfan5: in skyblock, the bottom of the world is a layer of default cloud some 20m below the island
16:00 Silizium Was quite creative so far. I actually stopped trying to play the game, the game IS getting rid of the water.
16:01 Silizium Yeah, I have iced lava down there and died when I climed down to it. Haha
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16:01 Silizium Lost all my stuff, that was unexpected.
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16:01 p_gimeno first thing I do on every server, grow 448 cottons
16:02 Silizium maybe I can try to robot it away?
16:02 VanessaE Silizium: you could also just use buckets....
16:02 Silizium That's a nice idea. I'll try that. Yes 9 of them it would cost me all my iron.
16:02 Silizium Water is your enemy.
16:03 p_gimeno (to make 4 big bags and store my precious stuff in them so that if I die I don't lose anything important)
16:04 Silizium Ah now I travel light, I have made my experiences. I just never thought I could hate water that much and I am living in Germany, where we have plenty of that stuff falling from the skies.
16:04 Silizium I usually love it.
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16:21 p_gimeno how do dungeon loots work? do I have to enable them explicitly?
16:22 sfan5 enabled by default
16:23 p_gimeno thanks, which leads to the first question... where can I expect to find them? like, only in desert? only in cobble? only in sandstone? all three?
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16:28 sfan5 all of them
16:28 p_gimeno mm ok, then I guess I was unlucky
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17:28 nri Hello
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18:05 jas_ i think the bigger the dungeon, the better the chance -- and somtimes more than one chest too
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18:25 p_gimeno I've figured it out, silly /me was using 0.4 MTG by mistake
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18:26 p_gimeno it was too suspicious that grepping for 'loot' in MTG didn't return results
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18:28 p_gimeno I think I switched to 0.4 while bisecting something
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19:19 kaeza Greetings.
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22:57 p_gimeno is there any way to create a node in the air, with plain MTG in creative mode?
23:01 p_gimeno guess not, I'll enable worldedit
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23:38 scr267 Is it relatively simple to convert ABMs to LBMs?
23:38 scr267 I'm considering modifying the 'sea' mod to use lbms instead...
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23:39 flyinggarlic hi folks, new here, minetest rocks.
23:39 rubenwardy o/
23:40 flyinggarlic trying to host a local server for first time, just want to connect a couple of devices into a world, do version numbers of each need to match exactly, or just first digit after the zero ?
23:40 scr267 How do you mean: devices?
23:41 scr267 like clients you mean?
23:41 flyinggarlic oh, maybe host world on windows 10 desktop, access on an android device or 2
23:41 flyinggarlic yes sorry clients
23:41 flyinggarlic not a noob here, just clueless :)
23:42 scr267 5.0 is not backwards compatible with 0.4.x so you wouldn't be able to mix and match those
23:42 flyinggarlic 4.16 w 1.17 is ok then?
23:42 scr267 but 0.4.16, 0.4.17 work fairly well together from what I remember
23:42 scr267 If you need immediate android: 0.4.17
23:43 scr267 but I believe there is a 5.0 android port coming soon.
23:43 flyinggarlic ok, so how do i find my "server" on the client? will it appear it the list with all the public servers even if mine is not marked for public ?
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23:44 scr267 You need to configure the minetest.conf file for 'server' purposes
23:44 scr267 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example
23:44 scr267 If you want it to appear in the list: server_announce = true
23:44 scr267 You'll find all the config settings in that minetest.conf.example file along with a description.
23:45 flyinggarlic I played that other mineGame a lot, never paid attention to minetest, now i want to play with my child and i dont like how mineC is all about, "spend more $, you need all this other new cool stuff ..
23:45 p_gimeno the way of connecting varies a lot depending on how your network is configured
23:46 flyinggarlic i just want to connect from my local network btw
23:46 scr267 So make sure your router/firewall is closed off nicely :)
23:46 p_gimeno if your phone is connecting to a wifi access point in your local network, then the phone will just need the IP of the local computer
23:46 scr267 and set server_announce = false
23:47 p_gimeno er, well, android device, phone or otherwise
23:47 scr267 p_gimeno: Sorry to have interrupted you :-D
23:47 p_gimeno no worries scr267, that's IRC :)
23:47 scr267 haha yea :)
23:48 flyinggarlic so the local ip#? not my WAN IP ?
23:48 scr267 local IP is correct
23:48 flyinggarlic ok great thanks to all!!!
23:49 p_gimeno again, assuming your wifi access point connects to the local lan and not e.g. to the internet directly
23:49 scr267 Also, if you are hosting on Windows 10 you may need to tell it to allow incoming udp requests on whichever port your minetest server is configured
23:49 scr267 I think windows will ask you automatically - but its been a while.
23:49 scr267 If you know how to configure your windows firewall, I would try to set it to allow only local IPs to connect.
23:51 flyinggarlic if i check public but i dont forward ports on my router, than it should show up in server list but still not be easily accesible from internet ?
23:51 scr267 That's correct, but this case there's no reason to have it listed publicly :)
23:52 p_gimeno ^ indeed, you'd just frustrate people who see a server and want to try it :)
23:53 flyinggarlic oh I see, I didnt realize it would show up in other peoples list outside my network, thanks for that warning!
23:54 flyinggarlic so if i dont want it to show up to the general internet, i need to keep public unchecked and the only way for my devices to connect is by local ip#?
23:55 p_gimeno the option is called "Announce server", by the way
23:55 p_gimeno right, don't announce it
23:55 flyinggarlic ok, in the minetest screen there is an option labeled "public"
23:56 flyinggarlic would be nice to have an easier dumb folk way to connect to a local server
23:56 p_gimeno uh, in 0.4.17?
23:57 flyinggarlic i didnt see a download for 4.17 listed so i downloaded 4.12
23:57 flyinggarlic as in here: http://doku.minetest.net/old_releases
23:58 p_gimeno uh, that's FAR too old... the page says it all
23:58 p_gimeno https://www.minetest.net/downloads/
23:58 flyinggarlic ah ...
23:58 p_gimeno I don't think you're going to find a client able to connect to a 0.4.12 server
23:59 flyinggarlic but im looking for the most recent windows 10 version that the most recent android version can connect with
23:59 flyinggarlic also, is there any plans to give android version some love, would be REALLY nice to have controller support.
23:59 p_gimeno 0.4.17 should be fine, it's on the google playstore

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