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Xiong |
Might disagree oiaohm. US is... Wild West in some ways. London police don't carry guns and when a criminal is caught he's asked to come along... so they say. In US a cop grabs a bad guy who fights back, clubs him silly, and gets shot by uninvolved bystander. The perp urinates in court and the judge dismisses because nobody's sure. |
| 00:42 |
Xiong |
You tell a squatter Get off... and he says Make me. Unclear who has enough skin in the game to file papers for a couple years. |
| 00:42 |
Ruslan1 |
rubenwardy: I remember this one http://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2018-11-27#i_5446137 |
| 00:43 |
oiaohm |
Xiong: UK police to carry Expandable baton. So they believe in clubbing person ahead of using gun. |
| 00:44 |
Xiong |
Ah well. |
| 00:44 |
oiaohm |
Xiong: not having gun means UK police will normally work out how to get closer and club first ask question latter. |
| 00:45 |
oiaohm |
works out on adverage safer than yelling stop or I will shoot. |
| 00:46 |
Xiong |
I had a friend like OC. Nice guy basically, we shared interests. But he had an axe to grind... family... and he nuked and paved... with consequences. I had to drop him; utterly unable to move him. |
| 00:47 |
Xiong |
Next you are I will hear, he'll dunno... crash an ultralight into the county clerk's office as revenge for misfiling His Case. |
| 00:49 |
oiaohm |
There is a lot of false idea about UK police that they ask you to come along. Its a lot simpler to hand cuff a person who is out cold because you club them. |
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Xiong |
oiaohm My point is, game not worth candle. We don't seem to have a... nutcase circuit breaker... here. A nutjob can cost you much over time. |
| 00:50 |
Xiong |
Dog! |
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oiaohm |
there is a problem yes nutjobs are nutjobs and just because you use a gun on them does not mean it will kill them or stop them. |
| 00:50 |
oiaohm |
problem with gun is that it can have a little range than you wished for. |
| 00:51 |
oiaohm |
UK is fairly high density a stray round like likely to find someone who was doing nothing wrong. |
| 00:52 |
oiaohm |
Some places using guns are primary for police make absolutely no sense. |
| 00:52 |
oiaohm |
sorrya little more range than you wished for. |
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oiaohm |
it scary how often you get people who are kind of nutjobs at attempting to ruin everything in minetest and minecraft. |
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riff-IRC |
Hello |
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Xiong |
US one of those make no sense place. |
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Cyber |
Hello. So i've been working on a mod but the only thing I can't seem to get to work is ore gen. |
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Cyber |
Hello. So i've been working on a mod but the only thing I can't seem to get to work is ore gen. |
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Cyber |
Hello. So i've been working on a mod but the only thing I can't seem to get to work is ore gen. |
| 07:50 |
Xiong |
Patience, Cyber. I've been waiting days to hear anything about technic world anchors. |
| 07:51 |
Xiong |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/technic/issues/475 |
| 07:53 |
Xiong |
Oregen is weirdstuff. I was you, I'd start with technic's. That does work... although I think it's a bit off with v6 chromium. |
| 07:53 |
majochup |
Cyber whats the mod about? |
| 07:54 |
Xiong |
Hi majochup! |
| 07:57 |
majochup |
hi |
| 07:57 |
majochup |
hi Xiong |
| 08:05 |
Cyber |
The mod involves future tech. You create fission, and fusion reactors as well as some other crazy stuff y'all have to wait for. |
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Xiong |
So you need helium3 ore?? |
| 08:06 |
Cyber |
Should I try the other versions of mapgen and see if my ores show up? I set sulfur to spawn like coal so I'd be able to tell if it was actually working |
| 08:12 |
majochup |
nice :D |
| 08:12 |
Xiong |
Try everything. But... first try technic. |
| 08:14 |
Xiong |
If you can get technic oregen working by itself then you can hack from there. The advantage is, if it stops working, you will know exactly what you did to cause it. |
| 08:17 |
Xiong |
I often use such a strat in any established project, twiddling what I see, adding conservatively, and chopping away what I don't want. At best thus means moving from ok to ok... instead of writing a bunch of stuff outta my head that *should* work but doesn't. |
| 08:21 |
Cyber |
Also is there more documention on formspec? Like the UIs for blocks. I can't find a whole lot of info. I basically am just modifing the furnace UI as best as possible. |
| 08:28 |
Xiong |
Oh, you noticed the scanty docs? There'd be a peerage for the worker who documented this project. But only the few know what it does |
| 08:30 |
Xiong |
Try hacking around UI. That mod does about everything that can be done with a formspec. Also check pipeworks for more formspec goodness... autocrafter and sorting tubes. |
| 08:33 |
Xiong |
Particular elegance is had with ghost items. Place a real item into a slot and nothing is taken... but the ghost appears. Removing the ghost poofs it. |
| 08:36 |
majochup |
much text m8 |
| 08:41 |
Cyber |
So basically looking at technic is a godsend? |
| 09:01 |
Xiong |
Looking at existing code is an express route to many goals. |
| 09:02 |
ANAND |
!book formspecs |
| 09:02 |
MinetestBot |
ANAND: Formspecs - https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book//en/players/formspecs.html |
| 09:02 |
ANAND |
Cyber ^ |
| 09:04 |
Xiong |
Back when docs came on paper I sorted most programming books into two kinds: references and cookbooks. I read both... inhaled them... but I found particular value in cookbooks... especially when the author was bold enough to print real working code. |
| 09:16 |
Cyber |
Those docs don't say enough to create an acutally good mod. |
| 10:08 |
majochup |
wow guys |
| 10:08 |
majochup |
bigfoot just scared the peep out of me :( |
| 10:30 |
Xiong |
Well! https://github.com/joe7575/techpack/wiki |
| 10:31 |
Xiong |
This looks promising. Scales down pipeworks/mesecons/technic into a more or less sane package. |
| 10:31 |
Xiong |
To clarify... not a subset of pmt but a reinvention. |
| 10:33 |
Xiong |
Definitely cut down. There's a quarry; its max is 5x5x25. No electrical *power* per se |
| 10:34 |
Xiong |
There's light-up nodes but that's just a signal. The machines run on biofuel processed from tree leaves. |
| 10:37 |
Xiong |
Offhand I'd say the whole mod(pack?) defines only around 5% as many nodes as the pmt team. But covers... dunno, 85% of the use cases. |
| 10:42 |
Xiong |
I've often said the technic quarry has no useful function; to get it running well.you need a reactor and... presumably... you had to acquire resources for that by other means. So the ultimate goal of the pmt pyramid... racks of machines, sorted storage arrays, giant labs to house it... is to build a setup massive enough to build it. Kinda empty. Now I wonder why I'm doing it again. |
| 10:44 |
Xiong |
"Joe" says TechPack is intended to put the erection of TechPack within reasonable reach... so you can go build stuff. Like... houses... dunno art. Which makes an odd kind of sense. |
| 10:46 |
Xiong |
Provides *two* computers, one a deadsimple my aunt could set up... maybe even $boss on a good day. The other a sandboxed Lua. |
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Xiong |
I think I'll park my elaborate pmt v6 world with its buggy anchors, excessive lava, and 5 min startup time... and try Joe's TechPack in v7. As long as I'm burning the world, I may just as well upgrade to 5.0.0-we-think-but-not-sure-yet_0fb997_%timestamp. |
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SFalcon |
Hey, I'm having some troubles setting up my server. I keep getting this error: The name '"C:\Users\(my name)\Downloads\minetest-0.4.17.1-win32(1)\minetest-0.4.17.1-win32\minetest/exe"--Falconville' specified in the Target box is not valid. Make sure the path and file name are correct. |
| 14:17 |
SFalcon |
so basically I'm just adding the information I'm supposed to over "--server --worldname --TheWorldName" |
| 14:18 |
rubenwardy |
--worldname TheWorldName |
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rubenwardy |
no -- before it |
| 14:18 |
rubenwardy |
also looks like you're missing a space |
| 14:18 |
SFalcon |
Oh... |
| 14:18 |
rubenwardy |
and put / rather than . |
| 14:18 |
SFalcon |
I'm so dumb lol |
| 14:20 |
SFalcon |
It's still telling me that Falconville is not valid, is it because I'm not supposed to enter my server name? |
| 14:20 |
SFalcon |
oh nevermind |
| 14:20 |
SFalcon |
I forgot that space again |
| 14:20 |
SFalcon |
Thanks Rubenwardy! |
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SFalcon |
Hm... whenever I click my server launcher it closes immedietly. Craig's guide says to check if I filled out the info correctly, and I did. What would the problem be now? |
| 14:56 |
Calinou |
SFalcon: try starting it from a command prompt directly, this way you can read the error before it disappears |
| 14:56 |
Calinou |
press Windows+R, then type in "cmd" and press Enter |
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SFalcon |
Alright, how do I open it from my command prompt? |
| 14:59 |
Calinou |
SFalcon: paste the command line you wrote for the shortcut, it should work from anywhere since you specified an absolute path to the Minetest binary |
| 15:00 |
SFalcon |
Alright, now it's telling me that my system can't find the file "Falconville" (my server's name) |
| 15:00 |
SFalcon |
C:\Users\kitad>start "C:\Users\kitad\Downloads\minetest-0.4.17.1-win32 (1)\minetest-0.4.17.1-win32\bin\minetest.exe" Falconville Test Test The system cannot find the file Falconville. |
| 15:01 |
SFalcon |
(Test is the name of the singleplayer world I am using) |
| 15:01 |
Calinou |
it should be: "C:\Users\kitad\Downloads\minetest-0.4.17.1-win32 (1)\minetest-0.4.17.1-win32\bin\minetest.exe" --worldname Falconville |
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Calinou |
you don't need the "start" here |
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SFalcon |
Alright, now I've got this, which seems to be something good: |
| 15:03 |
SFalcon |
C:\Users\kitad>Allowed options: --address <value> Address to connect to. ('' = local game) --config <value> Load configuration from specified file --console Starts with the console (Windows only) --gameid <value> Set gameid ("--gameid list" prints available ones) --go Disable main menu --help Show allowed options --info |
| 15:03 |
SFalcon |
huh, that's not even all of it |
| 15:03 |
SFalcon |
apparently I can't paste that much. |
| 15:07 |
SFalcon |
I'm gonna go for now, I'll try to fix this later... |
| 15:09 |
Calinou |
yeah, looks like you specified an invalid argument since it's printing the command-line help |
| 15:09 |
Calinou |
I think you need to add --server before --worldname too |
| 15:10 |
Calinou |
like this: --server --worldname Falconville |
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SFalcon |
Wow, all I had to do to get my shortcut to open and run the server was remove the world "Test" from it, because that's the only world I have made on minetest that isn't deleted right now. |
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SFalcon |
Okay, so my sister joined the game, and when I left to go turn on creative mode for the server, it automatically shut down without me resetting it or anything. How do I make the server stay online 24/7? |
| 16:28 |
Krock |
minetestserver --world <worldpath> |
| 16:28 |
Krock |
or minetest --server --world <worldpath> |
| 16:28 |
Krock |
and put that inside an infinite loop in case it crashes |
| 16:29 |
SFalcon |
And how do I do that? |
| 16:29 |
SFalcon |
Where do I go to configure this? |
| 16:29 |
SFalcon |
Minetest.conf? |
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ANAND |
Shell script, or its equivalents |
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ANAND |
any other equivalent* |
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SFalcon |
Alright, what do I insert into <worldpath>? |
| 16:32 |
SFalcon |
The path to the file? |
| 16:33 |
Krock |
path to your world |
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SFalcon |
'minetestserver' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. |
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SFalcon |
That's the error I got |
| 16:41 |
SFalcon |
Here's what I've entered so far: |
| 16:41 |
SFalcon |
:loop C:\Users\kitad\Downloads\minetest-0.4.17.1-win32 (1)\minetest-0.4.17.1-win32\worlds\Test |
| 16:41 |
SFalcon |
What the heck? |
| 16:41 |
Krock |
oof windows |
| 16:41 |
SFalcon |
Hold on, some stuff got cut out of that |
| 16:41 |
SFalcon |
:loop Falconville Test C:\Users\kitad\Downloads\minetest-0.4.17.1-win32 (1)\minetest-0.4.17.1-win32\worlds\Test |
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SFalcon |
That's what I put in |
| 16:42 |
SFalcon |
And nothing happens |
| 16:42 |
SFalcon |
I tested to see if my sister would still be online, and she immedietly got shut off once I left the server |
| 16:43 |
SFalcon |
I've been using Command Prompt to use these commands, could that be why nothing is working? |
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Krock |
you have to start minetest in a separate process in order to keep the world active |
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SFalcon |
Alright, so what proccess? |
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Krock |
the command line params are to make it persistent and load only the server-relevant stuff |
| 16:45 |
Krock |
a minetest process |
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SFalcon |
Lol, I thought by "start minetest in a seperate proccess" you meant I had to open it in some odd fashion. |
| 16:47 |
Krock |
for you it might be an odd fashion to run it in command line |
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SFalcon |
Hah |
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SFalcon |
What command does it require me to put in? I did "start minetest" and I got an error saying windows couldn't find it. (Sorry if I sound Reeealllly stupid right now) |
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jluc |
try "minetest" |
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SFalcon |
"'minetest' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file." |
| 16:54 |
jluc |
you first ought to find minetest.exe |
| 16:54 |
jluc |
where is it |
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SFalcon |
Aha, I got it to run |
| 16:55 |
SFalcon |
I had to do "start "C:\Users\kitad\Downloads\minetest-0.4.17.1-win32 (1)\minetest-0.4.17.1-win32\bin\minetest.exe" |
| 16:55 |
jluc |
these are the very basics of using a computer |
| 16:55 |
jluc |
you probably would gain a lot of learning a bit about it |
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SFalcon |
Trust me, I think I just did a learning. |
| 16:57 |
SFalcon |
And yeah, I should have known how to do that in the first place, lol |
| 17:04 |
SFalcon |
Now that I've opened Minetest from the command prompt... what do I do next? |
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SFalcon |
When running commands "loop: Falconville Test <The world path to Test> nothing happens... |
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riff-IRC |
The MT website plays along very well with dark theme extensions |
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SFalcon |
I'm back, no luck on the issue though :/ |
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SFalcon |
Anyone here know how to make a server run 24/7? I've gotten so far as to the point where I can atleast get the server up and running, the issue is that other players are forced to leave once I do. |
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SFalcon |
And once again, I apologize for being a total ape. |
| 20:00 |
Giorge |
Hello dear minetesters |
| 20:01 |
SFalcon |
Hi |
| 20:01 |
SFalcon |
Hi |
| 20:01 |
SFalcon |
Do you happen to know anything about getting servers to run all the time? I'm having some technical difficulties with this subject. |
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sfan5 |
SFalcon: are you running it on a server? |
| 20:02 |
SFalcon |
Running minetest on a server? |
| 20:02 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 20:02 |
SFalcon |
Yes, I have a server running. |
| 20:03 |
SFalcon |
Everything along the lines of running and maintaining the server are fine, my troubles are only in the aspect of getting it to stay online when I leave... |
| 20:04 |
sfan5 |
then you can just run minetestserver a service |
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SFalcon |
sorry? |
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Giorge |
Are you here to fix my broken marriage fixer? |
| 20:05 |
sfan5 |
how do you start your minetest server? |
| 20:07 |
SFalcon |
I just host it, that's about it. I've ported it forward and all that, and I have an IP set up. All I really need to do is click "host game" directly from the menu. |
| 20:07 |
SFalcon |
And that runs it. |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
oh, then you'll need to figure out how to run that server from the command line |
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SFalcon |
Aha, people have been telling me to do that, I just don't understand how. |
| 20:08 |
SFalcon |
They've given me command starters, and whenever I fill in any of the blanks, I normally end up with an error telling me I've done something wrong. |
| 20:09 |
SFalcon |
Once I run the commands, of course. |
| 20:10 |
SFalcon |
oof, all I had to do was google it |
| 20:10 |
SFalcon |
I think I got a good enough response |
| 20:10 |
SFalcon |
Nope |
| 20:10 |
SFalcon |
nevermind |
| 20:11 |
sfan5 |
if you still have issues, pastebin the command you ran and the error you get; then people here can help you better |
| 20:12 |
SFalcon |
https://pastebin.com/5XTgug3S |
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SFalcon |
A lot of my issues come from this one error |
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sfan5 |
you need to change into the directory where minetest.exe is located first |
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SFalcon |
Alright, I've done that already. Now that I have minetest.exe replaced, it's telling me it can't find anything for "Falconville" |
| 20:17 |
SFalcon |
The server name. |
| 20:18 |
SFalcon |
Oops, I made a typo |
| 20:18 |
SFalcon |
Now it opens up the game, but I don't exactly see anything happening? |
| 20:19 |
SFalcon |
Is it the fact that it's still a private server right now? |
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SFalcon |
If I set "Server Announce" to true, and someone else joins, will I be able to leave without forcing anyone else off? |
| 20:28 |
SFalcon |
Aha, I got something to happen |
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Fixer |
nah, marriage sucks |
| 20:28 |
Fixer |
no marriage, no problem, call now |
| 20:30 |
SFalcon |
https://pastebin.com/m4ejDwTx |
| 20:30 |
SFalcon |
This is what I got |
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sfan5 |
SFalcon: try minetest.exe --help and review the optins |
| 20:30 |
sfan5 |
options* |
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sfan5 |
oh it's already shown you that |
| 20:31 |
sfan5 |
what is the name of the world you're trying to run? |
| 20:32 |
SFalcon |
Woah, wait |
| 20:32 |
SFalcon |
I used one of the commands |
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SFalcon |
It's finally doing things |
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SFalcon |
Alright, I've got a big load of text coming through, hold on |
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SFalcon |
https://pastebin.com/EMiGjby1 |
| 20:44 |
SFalcon |
2018-12-29 15:38:53: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: Failed to bind socket (port already in use?) interests me, because that seems to be for the most part, the only problem it had. |
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SFalcon |
Other than that, idk what happened |
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MinetestBot |
[git] thomasrudin -> minetest-mods/mesecons: LuaC: add lightweight interrupts (#449) 737f366 https://git.io/fhLUu (2018-12-29T20:48:32Z) |
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SFalcon |
And each time I run this command, it seems to give me that same error at the bottom... |
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SFalcon |
Oh, I can access the server via the IP without hosting the game, maybe no super-bad errors actually came about. |
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sfan5 |
make sure Minetest isn't already running when you run the command |
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SFalcon |
... |
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SFalcon |
oof |
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SFalcon |
Lol, will run again |
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SFalcon |
Should I :loop the command in case the server crashes? |
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SFalcon |
Had to forcequit. I was getting lagged super hard |
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sfan5 |
it's a good idea to put it in a loop, yes |
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SFalcon |
Hah, ok |
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SFalcon |
My connection keeps getting timed out, like, a lot |
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SFalcon |
And everything is super laggy, is that just my internet's problem? |
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SFalcon |
Typically, this wouldn't be happening... |
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