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IRC log for #minetest, 2018-06-14

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00:18 DrFrankenstone If a is using Minetest 0.5 features, is there a standardish way to make it fail with an explanation when run on Minetest 4.x?
00:18 DrFrankenstone * If a mod is using Minetest 0.5 features, is there a standardish way to make it fail with an explanation when run on Minetest 4.x?
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00:24 entuland I think you can check if the feature you need to use is defined, and bail out spitting a message instead, DrFrankenstone
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00:26 DrFrankenstone I could leave an error message in the log, but then the player is none the wiser. By "bail out" do you mean there'
00:27 DrFrankenstone there's a way for a lua mod to end the game session with the error?
00:27 DrFrankenstone Ideally you want to get the mod uninstalled if it's being run on 4.x
00:27 entuland you mean to stop the world from loading?
00:29 entuland you have two options there, IMO, you either error() out (and the world will surely not load, cause it will go uncatched) or simply deactivate your mod (meaning your mod will not doing anything at all, cause it lacks the needed features)
00:29 entuland the latter may not be properly stated :P
00:30 entuland a simple check if the required features aren't there and you return in the main flow of your init.lua, logging the message
00:30 DrFrankenstone is there a way to error out or throw an exception in the mod?
00:30 entuland yes, the error() function
00:31 entuland if you don't catch it yourself in your mod, it will make the world loading to fail
00:31 entuland and will produce that as an uncatched error
00:31 entuland which will be shown to the runner
00:31 entuland make that "uncaught" :P
00:32 entuland that's just my hands-in-code experience, I have no idea if there is a proper way to do that in minetest
00:32 entuland I just know that it works
00:33 DrFrankenstone ahh, it's a lua-language function, I was searching the Minetest API for a way to raise it
00:33 entuland yep, Lua stuff
00:36 DrFrankenstone you can say !next now
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01:03 entuland ah, never done that
01:03 entuland I'm always afraid that bots don't honor my commands :P
01:03 entuland oh well, let's try
01:03 entuland !next
01:03 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
01:03 entuland good bot :)
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01:41 Librism Krock
01:41 Librism You still there?
01:44 Librism reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
01:44 Librism anyone here
01:44 Librism ?
01:47 ANAND Hello Librism, is there anything I can help you with?
01:48 ANAND (While I certainly sound like a greeter-bot, I'm not)
01:48 entuland ehhehe
01:48 Librism xD
01:48 entuland either that, or a very cleverly built bot :)
01:49 Librism ANAND
01:49 Librism I want to put minetest into VS
01:49 Librism been trying all day
01:49 ANAND ah VS...
01:49 Librism no luck
01:52 ANAND I'm sorry but I'm not too familiar with VS (although I had been using VS a couple of years ago)
01:52 * ANAND is probably a dumb bot :'(
01:52 Librism rip...
01:55 entuland granted that I've never built anything really with VS, and that I've never built minetest, I'd still like to try a few things, Librism
01:55 entuland for starters
01:55 entuland are you following any set of instruction to do that?
01:58 Librism yes
01:58 Librism i have downloaded all the depends
01:59 ANAND What issues are you facing exactly?
02:02 Librism this
02:02 Librism CMake Error at src/CMakeLists.txt:99 (message):   Sound enabled, but cannot be used.    To continue, either fill in the required paths or disable sound.   (-DENABLE_SOUND=0)
02:04 Librism and
02:04 Librism Could NOT find CURL (missing: CURL_LIBRARY CURL_INCLUDE_DIR CURL_DLL)  CMake Warning at src/CMakeLists.txt:52 (message):   cURL is required to load the server list
02:04 lumberJ maybe some issue with ogg or vorbis
02:05 ANAND Check out these pages:
02:05 ANAND https://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Compiling_on_Windows
02:05 ANAND https://dev.minetest.net/Build_Win32_Minetest_including_all_required_libraries
02:05 ANAND If you haven't already :)
02:05 lumberJ i'm not cmake expert but sounds like if you do have those installed maybe they are not being found in the expected place for some reason...just a guess though
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02:06 ANAND All the dependencies need to be built individually too
02:07 Stix *wonders how long hess been afk on irc...
02:08 ANAND Going AFK is quite normal on IRC, tbh
02:08 Stix i guess i shouldnt be surprised.
02:09 Stix how come i cant join ctf with a 0.5 client? 0.5 and latest stable used to be compatible
02:09 Stix i wonder when compatibility was completely pulled
02:09 ANAND When was that possible? 0.5.0 is all about breaking compatibility
02:10 Librism lol
02:10 Stix yes but before you could join a stable server its just u would have view height offset bug
02:10 Librism bout to just go to terrasology
02:10 Librism xD
02:10 Librism to many things with MT
02:10 Librism where is KROCK
02:10 Stix tjust do @Krocl
02:10 Stix tjust do @Krock
02:11 Stix *just
02:11 Librism @Krock
02:11 Librism you cant speeeel
02:11 lumberJ people have to eat/sleep have life outside of irc...
02:11 ANAND No need for '@' on IRC, just the name's enough to summon them
02:11 Stix yes i can, im..just LAZY!!! ;D
02:11 ANAND And Krock's not here
02:11 Stix not rlly tho
02:11 ANAND on IRC that is
02:11 Stix i was trying to spell correctly
02:12 Stix im bad at keyboards except for playing games *shrugs*
02:12 ANAND Stix, you might've been having the 0.5.0-dev version before the network protocol was actually changed
02:12 Stix anyways im going to dig even deeper (starting from where i last let of: -11000
02:12 Stix so afk
02:12 ANAND Which is the only possible explanation for why you were able to join a 0.4.17 server before
02:13 Librism Why
02:13 Librism Cant
02:13 Librism i
02:13 Librism use
02:13 Librism VS
02:13 Librism For it
02:13 Stix ok back, noone was on the server
02:14 ANAND Stop spamming please
02:14 ANAND Stix, you might've been having the 0.5.0-dev version before the network protocol was actually changed
02:14 ANAND which is the only possible explanation for why you were able to join a 0.4.17 server before
02:15 Stix what amazes me is that 100+ people are on irc atm yet only a couple every seem to be talking at once
02:15 ANAND Welcome to IRC :)
02:15 Stix anand yes i saw your earlier post on that
02:15 ANAND oops >.<
02:15 Stix hehe :P
02:15 Stix !cmd ban ANAND 3d spamming
02:15 Librism !cmd get my stuff working
02:15 Stix hmm doesnt work :P
02:16 ANAND lol
02:17 entuland HERESY! <lumberJ> people have to eat/sleep have life outside of irc...
02:17 Librism bout to just do it in java
02:17 Librism with terasology
02:17 lumberJ please do
02:17 lumberJ lol
02:17 Librism xD
02:18 Librism why
02:18 ANAND Traitors.... :/
02:18 lumberJ why do you need it to run in VS?
02:18 Librism im no traitor
02:18 ANAND :P
02:20 lumberJ seems like it is all the sudden fasionable for people who have no need to compile minetest to be trying to compile minetest
02:21 ANAND lol
02:22 lumberJ couldn't come at a worse time either, really
02:22 lumberJ :P
02:28 lumberJ ugh, i've got a bad case of distro itch
02:29 ANAND distro itch?
02:29 lumberJ :D
02:29 lumberJ its what i am calling the urge to distro hop
02:29 ANAND Haha
02:30 lumberJ plus i'm missing xfce
02:31 lumberJ for all the flashy stuff to choose from now days, i sure good go for just a good ole debian with xfce
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02:45 ANAND Librism: http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/Compile_Minetest_MSVC.txt
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11:55 cities People idle for days
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12:16 Krock forever actually.
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16:13 cities any interesting channels I should join?
16:14 ANAND I recommend NatGeo
16:14 rubenwardy #minetest-dev #minetest-chat #mineclone2 #minetest-doc #lua ##minetest-ctf #insidethebox
16:15 Krock #archlinux-offtopic #archlinux
16:17 rubenwardy ^ [hostile user]
16:17 rubenwardy [won't fix]
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16:31 Out`Of`Control define interesting
16:32 ANAND no it should be #define interesting
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16:33 ANAND and then of course, #ifdef interesting do_interesting_stuff() #endif
16:34 rubenwardy oh god
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16:35 Krock https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/declarations.html
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16:36 ANAND XD
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16:48 BBmine Oh look, a bot! https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=23153
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16:49 ANAND or a troll
16:50 Krock BBmine, https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?start=11790 100s of similar accounts
16:51 ANAND o_O
16:51 BBmine yeah
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17:01 riff-IRC Rebooting...
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17:20 Fulgen wtf
17:21 Fulgen always those spam accounts...
17:22 Librism Krock
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17:31 riff-IRC GTG/BBL
17:34 MinetestBot [git] Wuzzy2 -> minetest/minetest: Minimal: Disable disruptive formspec test by default (#7423) 3283079 https://git.io/vhixz (2018-06-14T17:32:10Z)
17:42 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix release script 09eea42 https://git.io/vhipY (2018-06-14T17:40:23Z)
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20:54 Edgy1 sfan5, i have a question about the serverlist
20:55 Edgy1 or any other devs around
20:57 Edgy1 so I wiped my system and switched to debian 9 and moved the world, mods, and minetest.conf to a newly built mt 0.4.17. the serer list still says my server is 146d old but the average / top players is now 0
20:58 sfan5 avg / top players is not stored permanently
20:58 sfan5 it resets when your server drops from the list
21:03 Edgy1 sfan5, oh ok thanks
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23:24 Edgy1 any reason my minetest server sometimes just lags out on its own and everyone times out and the only way to get it working is to restart the server, but nothing appears in logs?
23:24 Edgy1 this just started, i upgraded to 0.4.17
23:25 rubenwardy try 0.4.17.1
23:37 Edgy1 that's what im on rubenwardy
23:38 Edgy1 1 sec it just did it again
23:40 Edgy1 # Server: version=0.4.17.1,
23:52 Edgy1 rubenwardy,

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