IRC log for #minetest, 2018-04-28

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03:17	cimbakahn	What is the difference between Minetest & MinetestC55?
03:36	progysm	C55
03:52	cimbakahn	Nice joke! Really, what's the difference?
04:01	LazyJ	cimbakahn, the difference is in the age of the versions.
04:01	LazyJ	"C55" vintage is older.
04:06	cimbakahn	Does that mean that C55 is unusable today?
04:11	LazyJ	Yeah, as far as connecting to other contemporary MT servers.
04:12	LazyJ	You can compile it and run it on your computer but most of the mods on Github won't work with it.
04:17	cimbakahn	LazyJ, Thank you!
04:17	LazyJ	yw ;)
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04:18	LazyJ	cimbakahn, yw ;)
04:18	LazyJ	Phtt..
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07:30	ANAND	Greetings! I'd like to publish a mod but I can't find the "New topic" button in the Mod Releases sub-forum. Any help would be much appreciated, thanks!
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08:19	ANAND	Actually, never mind... I found the way :)
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11:37	Astrobe	!help
11:37	MinetestBot	https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
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11:51	Astrobe	yay! ores smelting increased from 3s to 10s. You won't look at a coal lump and say 'meh' anymore.
11:53	* rdococ	turns into a coal lump
11:56	Astrobe	wow that guy could be hot!
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13:39	Ruslan1	Hello
13:40	Krock	Hello
13:55	greeter	greetings
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17:24	cimbakahn	IsÂ forum.minetest.net having trouble with their server?Â I am having trouble getting to some of their pages, and are receiving this:Â Â https://imgur.com/a/hic1tRk
17:31	sfan5	works for me
17:37	cimbakahn	I just used a site called "is it down now", and it reads that the site is up and reachable. I wonder why i'm having problems?
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18:12	cimbakahn	I was able to get to that web page. I ran bleachbit, then ran it again as root, and restarted the laptop, and boom, it works now.
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18:43	sy	bas080: I remember playing with the bees mod a while back, and the idea was to get a queen bee into an artificial hive. However, I can't seem to find any queen bees
18:44	Astrobe	I think you need 3 bees.
18:44	Astrobe	If that's the same mod.
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19:23	sy	https://0x0.st/sQkR.png
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19:27	Ruslan1	Hello
19:27	Astrobe	"Too lotz of rockz, bzzzzz"
19:28	Ruslan1
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19:33	Ruslan1	sy: what server you on
19:33	sy	private one
19:34	Ruslan1	Sand me
19:34	* sy	sands Ruslan1
19:34	sy	you have been sanded
19:34	Ruslan1	Where
19:35	sy	im not sending you the ip Ruslan1 stop messaging me
19:36	Ruslan1	Ok it fine
19:38	Ruslan1	So what mods do you have
19:39	Ruslan1	Sh
19:39	Ruslan1	sy:
19:42	Ruslan1	sy: hello
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19:46	ayylmaoo	hey
19:46	sy	ayy
19:47	Ruslan1	????
19:48	ayylmaoo	is minetest just minecraft for poor people?
19:49	Markow	It's better
19:49	ayylmaoo	how so?
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19:50	Alchemical	hi
19:51	ayylmaoo	hey :)
19:52	Markow	Better mods, more blocks, it's fast
19:52	ayylmaoo	ah i see
19:52	ayylmaoo	also open source is good :')
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20:06	Ruslan1	sy I hope if am going join your server soon
20:13	Krock	>implying FLOSS is for poor people
20:14	Krock	I feel personally attacked by your statement
20:17	Out`Of`Control	ayylmaoo: if you got brain try minetest, no stay with minecraft
20:17	Out`Of`Control	xD
20:17	ayylmaoo	XD
20:17	Krock	Out`Of`Control, because it requires some thinking to make it run right?
20:17	Out`Of`Control	no
20:18	Out`Of`Control	Krock: we talk about client single player thing right?
20:19	Krock	we talk about minetest in general, I think
20:19	Out`Of`Control	for server you are right, client no
20:22	Astrobe	I'm far from being broke and I play FOSS games all the time. It's about devs making choices in the interest of their users rather than in the interest of their company.
20:23	Krock	but the companies usually want satisfied users so they pay for the game
20:24	Krock	well, this doesn't apply for Windows
20:27	Ruslan1	Hi Out`Of`Control
20:27	Out`Of`Control	hi
20:27	Ruslan1	Are you in Minetest
20:28	Out`Of`Control	i am not minetest developer no
20:30	Ruslan1	You canâ€™t be here
20:30	Astrobe	In reality they just optimize profit/user satisfaction. That means they can choose to displease their users to some degree if the profit increase is worth it.
20:31	Ruslan1	Yeah
20:32	Astrobe	Also they tend to priorities addictive game mechanics rather than innovative game mechanics.
20:34	Ruslan1	Ok
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20:50	Out`Of`Control	Ruslan1: why you are here?
20:52	Ruslan1	Because I never join here before but I was
20:53	Astrobe	A lighting strike right next to my house dug a 4m deep hole, setting ablaze a couple of trees nearby. The fire threatened to burn the whole forrest.
20:53	Astrobe	And that's on top of a tree monster infestation.
20:54	Out`Of`Control	Ruslan1: i run Liberty Land server
20:55	Ruslan1	Did I get ban
20:57	Out`Of`Control	Ruslan1: Ð¿Ð¾Ñ‡ÐµÐ¼Ñƒ
20:57	Ruslan1	Mmm
20:59	Out`Of`Control	why
21:00	Ruslan1	Ñ Ð½Ðµ Ð·Ð½Ð°ÑŽ
21:01	Ruslan1	Um
21:01	Out`Of`Control	Ð½ÐµÑ‚ Ð¿Ñ€Ð¸Ñ‡Ð¸Ð½ Ð±Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ‚ÑŒ Ð½Ð¾ Ð´Ð°Ð¶Ðµ ÐµÐ»Ð¸ Ð¿Ð¾Ð¶ÐµÐ»Ð°Ñ‚ÑŒ Ð½Ðµ Ð²Ð¾Ð·Ð¼Ð¾Ð¶Ð½Ð¾. ÐºÐ°Ðº ÑƒÐ·Ð½Ð°Ñ‚ÑŒ Ñ‚Ð²Ð¾Ð¹ Ð°Ð¹Ð¿Ð¸
21:02	Krock	niet
21:04	sfan5	it's called "Ð½ÐµÑ‚"
21:04	Ruslan1	Ñ Ð¼Ð¾Ð³Ñƒ Ð¿Ñ€Ð¸ÑÐ¾ÐµÐ´Ð¸Ð½Ð¸Ñ‚ÑŒÑÑ
21:05	rdococ	HeT
21:06	Ruslan1	Iâ€™m talking to Out`Of`Control
21:06	Out`Of`Control	Ruslan1: Ð¸Ð³Ñ€Ð°Ñ‚ÑŒ?
21:06	Krock	ÐºÑÐ¾ÑÐº
21:07	rdococ	Ð§Ð”Ò°
21:07	Ruslan1	Ok
21:09	rdococ	Ð£AÐ£
21:09	Ruslan1	Yay for what
21:09	Out`Of`Control	ÐÑƒÑƒ
21:11	Ruslan1	Out`Of`Control: Ð¯ Ð±ÑƒÐ´Ñƒ Ð¸Ð³Ñ€Ð°Ñ‚ÑŒ Ð² ÑÐ»ÐµÐ´ÑƒÑŽÑ‰Ð¸Ð¹ Ñ€Ð°Ð·
21:12	Out`Of`Control	ÐºÐ¾Ð³Ð´Ð° ÑƒÐ³Ð¾Ð´Ð½Ð¾
21:12	Out`Of`Control	Ñ‚Ð¾ÐºÐ° Ð¾ÑÑ‚Ð¾Ñ€Ð¾Ð¶Ð½Ð¾
21:13	Ruslan1	Ok
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21:28	Ruslan1	rdococ:
21:34	Ruslan1	Out`Of`Control: Ð¯ Ñ…Ð¾Ñ‡Ñƒ ÑÐºÐ°Ð·Ð°Ñ‚ÑŒ, Ð¸Ð·Ð²Ð¸Ð½Ð¸Ñ‚Ðµ, Ñ‡Ñ‚Ð¾ Ñ Ð¸Ð¼ÐµÑŽ Ð² Ð²Ð¸Ð´Ñƒ
21:43	ircSparky	does anyone know of any mod that only lets players chop trees and dig if they have the correct tools?
21:49	BillyS	By putting "armor_groups = {immortal = 1}" into the definition of an entity, shouldn't it be immortal?
21:49	BillyS	Because it isn't working for me
21:49	BillyS	In debug mode, the immortal=1 group doesn't show up
21:50	Ruslan1	Nice
21:51	Ruslan1	BillyS: you trying to fix it
21:52	BillyS	Yes, I am
21:52	Ruslan1	Ok
22:03	BillyS	Hmm. Apparently you have to use obj:set_armor_groups()
22:06	Krock	BillyS, there is no such object property called "armor_groups" because they're handled differently
22:07	Krock	and the engine wouldn't notice when you change that value in your code without calling a C++ function
22:08	BillyS	Ah
22:08	BillyS	Thank you.
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22:26	Ruslan1	Hi longerstaff13
22:27	longerstaff13	Hullo ruslan
22:27	Ruslan1	:)
22:28	longerstaff13	:P
22:29	Ruslan1	How are you
22:29	longerstaff13	I am good
22:29	longerstaff13	How are you?
22:29	Ruslan1	Ok
22:29	Ruslan1	Good
22:29	longerstaff13	Great
22:31	ircSparky	does anything weird happen if you spawn an entity where there is no player within the object load radius?
22:31	ircSparky	I'm guessing not just thought id ask
22:31	Ruslan1	longerstaff13: have you use technic before
22:33	Ruslan1	Yes or no
22:35	longerstaff13	Yes why?
22:35	Ruslan1	I donâ€™t know
22:35	Ruslan1	Because it nice
22:36	longerstaff13	Okay
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23:13	cimbakahn	Does anyone know which one of theses is correct, or are they both wrong? ----> https://imgur.com/a/wOz26zc
23:15	cimbakahn	theses is these
23:28	Astrobe	The right one is wrong
23:30	Astrobe	Lua won't solve equations like a=1/b=0.05
23:32	Astrobe	maybz it should read uses=1,maxwear=0.05 but that doesn't look right either
23:34	Astrobe	The wiki page for register_tool doeq'nt mention maxwear btw
23:35	rubenwardy	lua_api is the canonical source of info, not the wiki
23:35	cimbakahn	Astrobe, Then, should i just use the left page?
23:36	Astrobe	the wiki is kinda easier to read...
23:36	rubenwardy	it's not in the lua_api either
23:36	rubenwardy	it's incorrect most of the time :)
23:36	rubenwardy	volunteers accepted
23:37	BillyS	Hmm, is there some way I can make an entity rotate to always face another?
23:37	BillyS	Before I dive into icky trig and do it myself.
23:37	rubenwardy	also, there's this: rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/lua_api.html
23:37	Astrobe	yep, but i would try to replace maxwear with uses=3 or whatever you think is fair.
23:37	rubenwardy	also, there's this: https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/lua_api.html
23:37	cimbakahn	I am trying to figure out what to do, because my subgame isn't working.
23:42	cimbakahn	I don't feel like going to college for a couple of months just to fix my subgame. I just want it to work.
23:43	rubenwardy	you don't need college to learn to program
23:43	rubenwardy	just time and practice
23:43	cimbakahn	It was the debug.txt that was telling me to replace that stuff in the 1st place.
23:44	Astrobe	:-)
23:46	cimbakahn	maxwear ? uses=3 ? I don't even know what the H it does......
23:46	Astrobe	So {times={...], uses=10, maxlevel=3} should make it so that you can uses the tool 10 times before it breaks.
23:49	cimbakahn	I already spent over 2 hours on it. There were folders with nothing inside them, so i had to go hunt the stuff down.
23:50	Astrobe	That's programming. Sometimes you spend stupid amounts of time on silly misakes.
23:50	Astrobe	Especially when you're tired. Maybe have a break?
23:51	cimbakahn	I'm racing to the kitchen right now to get a hagan daz coffee ice cream just so i can feel better.
23:52	cimbakahn	It was not my mistakes, it was someone elses that i have been trying to fix.
23:53	Astrobe	Well it's sunday in my timezone already. Bye and good luck!
23:59	cimbakahn	Sorry about that!Â On my way back from the kitchen Sky flagged me down, and wanted me to put something in the bowl.

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