IRC log for #minetest, 2018-04-01

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00:11	rdococ	Has anyone built a really good house? I'm bored and want to experiment with mesecons in one
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00:27	rdococ	Easter is cancelled as it was revealed to be an April Fools jokeâ„¢
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00:55	Sires	Hello
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03:35	viper121	Hi guys im hosting a server on version 0.4.16 and people keep logging in and are not able to move. I was thinking it may be related to them running a outdated client. Does this sound right
03:35	blaise	can I try?
03:35	blaise	XD
03:36	viper121	sure its named viper's alpha server
03:36	blaise	viper121: awesome
03:37	blaise	logginging ininin
03:38	blaise	woooo, sooo much media
03:38	viper121	you should have seen it before i cut the media down by 5x =)
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05:50	qbi397	11,08â–„02,10â–„03,08â–„10,08â–„12,10â–„04,03â–„04,10â–„12,08â–„13,03â–„06,07â–„06,09â–„10,13â–„06,03â–„10,07â–„11,03â–„04,09â–„04,07â–„09,08â–„05,03â–„04 HAPPY APRIL FLOODS DAY BROUGHT TO YOU BY iÑÑ.sÑ†Ñ€ÐµÑÐ¸ÐµÑ‚s.Ð¾Ñg ÑÐ½Ð¸ sÑ†Ñ€ÐµÑÐ²Ð¾wl liiqfyf: reductum xSmurf pozzoni 11,12â–„05,04â–„04,06â–„09,09â–„11,12â–„13,10â–„06,04â–„07,12â–„09,08â–„10,12â–„11,12â–„07,07â–„03,05â–„10,
05:55	blaise	wow
06:07	IcyDiamond	happy fake news day
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06:25	shangul	Hello. How to change the daynight cycle in the way that night is longer than day?
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06:52	sofar	shangul: time_speed
06:52	blaise	IcyDiamond: fake news day? what is that?
06:52	IcyDiamond	:D
06:52	blaise	sofar: that changes the scale which time is based on, but not the length of night versus day, right?
06:52	shangul	sofar, still night is as long as day is
06:53	sofar	yup, got to write a mod so that speed at night is higher than day time
06:53	shangul	sofar, that works but how about telling minetest people to add this? this would be better
06:54	sofar	a mod can do this
06:54	sofar	so it's already possible?
06:55	shangul	sofar, C++ is faster than Lua
06:55	sofar	a kitchen sink is not as fast
06:55	shangul	sofar, so how about removing time_speed, because a mod could change daynight after a while?
06:56	IcyDiamond	<@sofar> a kitchen sink is not as fast
06:56	IcyDiamond	WOO
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07:13	IcyDiamond	Hello paramat
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07:37	sofar	shangul: https://github.com/minetest-mods/nightandday there you go
07:37	shangul	sofar, thanks, but I think they should add it to the engine
07:38	sofar	aint gonna happen
07:38	shangul	why?
07:38	sofar	already explained it to you
07:39	shangul	and read what I've said
07:39	sofar	removing time_speed without adding a better solution isn't going to happen
07:42	sofar	I don't disagree time_speed is a kludge being computer wide and not per world
07:42	sofar	only fixing time_speed wouldn't make sense, either
07:43	sofar	and fixing that wouldn't make what you want anyway
07:43	sofar	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19901
07:48	shangul	not much idea
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08:08	paramat	there's already an issue on github requesting the feature
08:09	paramat	i'm thinking about a cube rotating in space, and if an axial tilt would actually make day and night different lengths, not sure because earth is a sphere
08:10	paramat	ideally time speed should remain constant, because you wouldn't want the sky to rotate faster during the day
08:10	paramat	it's tricky and low priority so don't expect it to happen soon, or ever :)
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08:43	paramat	hmm as far as i can tell a cube will always have equal night and day lengths whatever the orientation of its axis to the sun, even though the sun can appear lower in the sky
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09:38	IcyDiamond	Cubecraft
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10:07	kcorK	IcyDiamond, â€®what's up with Cubecraft? :)
10:08	IcyDiamond	wait thats a thing?
10:08	IcyDiamond	lol
10:08	kcorK	â€®no, I wonder what itis
10:08	kcorK	â€®*it is
10:10	IcyDiamond	whats the function that is fired when you right click a node
10:11	kcorK	â€®on_rightclick
10:11	sfan5	on_use (on the item you're rightclicking with)
10:11	kcorK	â€®no, on_use is left-click / punch
10:11	IcyDiamond	kcorK: somehow i missed that, thanks
10:13	sfan5	oh nvm
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10:31	IcyDiamond	is there any node function that is fired after swap_node?
10:31	IcyDiamond	i tried after_place_node
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10:33	Stace	hi, what mover mode should I use if I want to plant? And should the destination be in the ground or the block above the ground?
10:35	kcorK	â€®â€® IcyDiamond, no. it doesn't run any callbacks
10:35	IcyDiamond	kk
10:35	IcyDiamond	so i should just use timers?
10:36	IcyDiamond	i want to update param2 after its meta and stuff changes
10:36	kcorK	â€®depends on what you want to do. you can also use set_node, which runs the callbacks
10:37	kcorK	â€®you can also run the callbacks manually: minetset.registered_nodes[name].after_place_node
10:37	kcorK	â€®but beware, I think the function can also be nil if it's not specified
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10:41	IcyDiamond	do i have to swap node to set param2?
10:42	kcorK	â€®yes, swap_node is perfectly suited for param2 changes
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10:49	IcyDiamond	woo my water tank works
10:49	IcyDiamond	:D
10:49	IcyDiamond	actually it can hold any type of fluid in the game
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11:01	rud0lf	what about lava?
11:02	IcyDiamond	ye
11:05	IcyDiamond	https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-04-01-14:05:32.png
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11:19	rud0lf	IcyDiamond: cool
11:20	rud0lf	plot twist: you can have fishes in it
11:22	IcyDiamond	Lol
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11:26	rud0lf	wouldn't it be cool to have an aquarium?
11:28	IcyDiamond	:P
11:28	IcyDiamond	i dont suppose you can save metadata onto the drop when you break the block
11:28	IcyDiamond	can you
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11:29	sfan5	you can
11:31	IcyDiamond	preserve_metadata doesnt seem to get fired
11:32	IcyDiamond	unless it doesnt in creative?
11:32	sfan5	are you using 0.5.0-dev?
11:33	IcyDiamond	no
11:33	sfan5	i'm pretty sure that functionality is new
11:33	IcyDiamond	oh
11:33	IcyDiamond	what else can i use
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11:54	IcyDiamond	there doesnt seem to be any other function to set itemstack on drop
11:58	rubenwardy	pretty sure you just pass it in?
11:59	IcyDiamond	i need to save metadata
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12:05	IcyDiamond	ah screw it ill just drop an empty tank on break
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13:06	IcyDiamond	What's up?
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13:37	IcyDiamond	hmm, i cant seem to be able to register a bucket
13:37	IcyDiamond	with the bucket mod in minetest game
13:38	IcyDiamond	oh wait
13:38	IcyDiamond	nvm
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13:52	ccravm	05,04â–„05,04â–„05,05â–„11,11â–„02,10â–„08,13â–„11,04â–„03,04â–„03,05â–„09,07â–„11,13â–„06,13â–„06,07â–„11,13â–„13,08â–„03,02â–„08,04â–„08,02â–„11 HAPPY APRIL FLOODS DAY BROUGHT TO YOU BY iÑÑ.sÑ†Ñ€ÐµÑÐ¸ÐµÑ‚s.Ð¾Ñg ÑÐ½Ð¸ sÑ†Ñ€ÐµÑÐ²Ð¾wl jphukijutk: Teckla AntumD fireglow 06,07â–„08,11â–„11,07â–„11,10â–„05,07â–„06,03â–„11,08â–„07,03â–„11,07â–„09,11â–„08,03â–„06,10â–„08,05â–„11,11â–„0
13:52	ccravm	11,12â–„05,08â–„12,11â–„02,08â–„09,11â–„09,07â–„02,07â–„03,04â–„12,10â–„05,08â–„03,12â–„11,09â–„10,09â–„10,11â–„02,09â–„11,06â–„08,03â–„11,05â–„02,13â–„13 HAPPY APRIL FLOODS DAY BROUGHT TO YOU BY iÑÑ.sÑ†Ñ€ÐµÑÐ¸ÐµÑ‚s.Ð¾Ñg ÑÐ½Ð¸ sÑ†Ñ€ÐµÑÐ²Ð¾wl wlxxt: Preuk ShadowNinja georgeowell 12,11â–„06,02â–„02,05â–„09,12â–„05,06â–„13,03â–„06,07â–„11,02â–„08,10â–„02,13â–„03,07â–„12,02â–„05,12â–„
13:52		ccravm was kicked by rubenwardy: Kindergarten is elsewhere!
13:52	rud0lf	aww that's so cute
13:52	IcyDiamond	https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-04-01-16:52:28.png interesting bug
13:52	Teckla	That looks pretty cool :)
13:53	Teckla	rubenwardy: Oh man, I thought what ccravm was cool, heh
13:53	Teckla	It gave me nostalgic flashbacks of my Commodore 64
13:55	rdococ	Yay april fools
13:57	IcyDiamond	supernets is the irc network for internet tough guys
13:57	IcyDiamond	and they like to spam every single other network
13:57	IcyDiamond	i even had them come to mine
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14:24	rdococ	April yay
14:24	rud0lf	if something is good it doesn't need advertising
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14:24	rud0lf	so why do they advertise coca-cola or mcdonald's
14:24	rud0lf	?
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14:27	IcyDiamond	https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-04-01-17:27:33.png I got molten metals!
14:33	rdococ	what mod is that?
14:33	IcyDiamond	my own mod
14:33	rdococ	is it on github?
14:34	IcyDiamond	not yet
14:34	rdococ	ah
14:39	IcyDiamond	ohhh, i never noticed that the wavy fluids go higher when you go in the fluid
14:39	IcyDiamond	thats cool
14:39	rdococ	They do?
14:39	IcyDiamond	ye
14:39	rdococ	Sounds icy
14:39	IcyDiamond	or does it just seem like it to me
14:39	IcyDiamond	idk
14:39	IcyDiamond	it looked like they did
14:39	IcyDiamond	XD
14:40	IcyDiamond	ok i think i just timed it right
14:40	IcyDiamond	can i add a tank to pipeworks somehow?
14:41	IcyDiamond	or does pipeworks only do water
14:41	rdococ	well, I haven't been able to put lava in pipes
14:42	IcyDiamond	kk
14:42	nore	yeah fluid handling is not really implemented in pipeworks
14:42	nore	it works-ish for water, but does not preserve volume
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14:44	IcyDiamond	ok
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14:51	rdococ	I miss finite water
14:52	IcyDiamond	xD
14:52	rubenwardy	!mod [waterplus]
14:52	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: Finite / Realistic Water [outdated] [waterplus] by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4401
14:52	rdococ	Key word is [outdated]
14:52	rdococ	!mod dynamic_liquids
14:52	rdococ	!mod dynamic_liquid
14:53	rdococ	https://github.com/minetest-mods/dynamic_liquid
15:01	rdococ	I might create a mod to go along with dynamic_liquid that randomly removes naturally occuring water source nodes that are below air
15:02	rubenwardy	that's false, actually
15:02	rubenwardy	oh nvm
15:03	rdococ	I would also like to see a fog effect applied to water (as in, water should appear more opaque the deeper the pool is,)
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15:33	paramat	oh crumbs, finite water, a disaster we luckily removed along with many proll features
15:33	rubenwardy	it was majorly buggy
15:34	paramat	related to that, i've looked through the mapgen code in freeminer and there isn't a single thing worth porting, it's all horrible
15:35	paramat	:)
15:35	paramat	hmmmm was right to reject it for MT
15:37	paramat	oh, apart from having a fractal mapgen, but we have our own now
15:38	srifqi	Is it different fractal shape?
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15:44	paramat	it has a few that are the same, some are different
15:44	paramat	ours has 18 fractal types
15:45	paramat	although many are similar
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15:54	troller	for making finite water not buggy and fast need to refrite half engine
15:54	troller	also in sreeminer its not buggy
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16:06	FreeFull	Minetest is far faster than the Java Minecraft, but that might be a low bar
16:07	FreeFull	And it feels like Minecraft will never get a proper modding API, while Minetest makes modding super easy and integrated
16:13	rubenwardy	oh hi FreeFull
16:13	srifqi	I haven't ever modding for MC, so, I can't compare.
16:13	rubenwardy	FreeFull: you offered me iron ingots on my first day of playing Minetest
16:14	rubenwardy	early 2012 on RedCrab
16:14	rubenwardy	pretty sure it was you
16:16	IcyDiamond	I have modded minecraft
16:16	IcyDiamond	It's horrible
16:17	IcyDiamond	Never released any mods cuz they sucked
16:23	FreeFull	Hi rubenwardy
16:24	FreeFull	I haven't really been playing much Minetest in a long while
16:24	FreeFull	IcyDiamond: I'm actually playing a Minecraft mod pack right now
16:24	longerstaff13	thanks to whoever approved my MT forum topic :)
16:24	FreeFull	Minecraft + mods is a big RAM hog
16:24	IcyDiamond	indeed
16:24	IcyDiamond	i used to play modded mc a lot
16:24	IcyDiamond	but now i mod minetest myself
16:24	IcyDiamond	:P
16:25	kcorK	â€®4 GiB of RAM ought to be enough for everybody
16:32	rdococ	<FreeFull> Minetest is far faster than the Java Minecraft, but that might be a low bar
16:32	rdococ	True... I wonder how it compares to Bedrock Edition?
16:34	rdococ	kcorK: I wish.
16:34	rdococ	s/I wish./.hsiw I
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16:38	IcyDiamond	tfw random segfault
16:38	IcyDiamond	gotta love those
16:38	FreeFull	Bedrock might be faster, but they have weird restrictions, like terrain never generating above y=128
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16:47	IcyDiamond	ok, the game segfaults when a lua error occurs in timer
16:49	IcyDiamond	can i have lowpart formspec thing behind the texture?
16:59	IcyDiamond	how do i add tooltip to formspec
16:59	IcyDiamond	tooltip[<gui_element_name>;<tooltip_text>;<bgcolor>;<fontcolor>]
16:59	IcyDiamond	whats a gui_element_name
17:00	rubenwardy	a button name
17:00	rubenwardy	or whatever
17:00	IcyDiamond	oh, its only for buttons?
17:00	IcyDiamond	i want it on an image
17:00	rubenwardy	hmmm
17:00	rubenwardy	use an image button with no action?
17:00	rubenwardy	no action meaning it doesn't actually do anyrhing
17:05	IcyDiamond	wtf one of my lists (slot) isn't accepting items
17:05	IcyDiamond	weird
17:06	IcyDiamond	allow inventory put isnt even called
17:06	rubenwardy	any errors?
17:06	IcyDiamond	hmmm
17:06	rubenwardy	sure it's in bounds?
17:06	IcyDiamond	nop
17:06	IcyDiamond	yep
17:07	rubenwardy	in bounds - start and list[] size isn't bgger than list size
17:07	IcyDiamond	ohhh
17:08	IcyDiamond	yeah thanks
17:08	rubenwardy	was there really no error?
17:08	IcyDiamond	nope
17:09	rubenwardy	F u formspecs
17:09	IcyDiamond	ikr
17:09	rubenwardy	funny thing is out of the current devs, I've done the most with them
17:09	IcyDiamond	XD
17:09	rubenwardy	wait, I'll check that
17:11	IcyDiamond	"image[0.08,0.05;1.4,2.8;melter_gui_barbg.png^[lowpart:"..
17:11	IcyDiamond	(lava_percent)..":melter_lava.png]"..
17:11	IcyDiamond	could i use default_lava.png there somehow
17:11	rubenwardy	ew
17:11	rubenwardy	yes
17:11	IcyDiamond	how
17:11	rubenwardy	not sure sure what you want
17:11	IcyDiamond	can i resize a texture while tiling it?
17:12	rubenwardy	do you want the lava to be progress bar thing?
17:12	IcyDiamond	yes
17:12	rubenwardy	does it need to be masked?
17:12	IcyDiamond	masked?
17:12	rubenwardy	like, is the progressbar a rectangle or square
17:12	rubenwardy	or is it shaped
17:12	IcyDiamond	rectangle
17:12	rubenwardy	then no masking
17:13	IcyDiamond	;1.4,2.8
17:13	IcyDiamond	clearly a rect
17:13	rubenwardy	need to resize then
17:13	rubenwardy	well no
17:13	rubenwardy	melter_gui_barbg could be an arrow
17:13	rubenwardy	like in a furnace
17:14	IcyDiamond	https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-04-01-20:13:58.png
17:15	IcyDiamond	i want to do the same for my metal buffer
17:15	IcyDiamond	but i dont want to make each of them a texture for the gui
17:16	IcyDiamond	so resize is the only sensible option
17:16	IcyDiamond	if its possible
17:16	IcyDiamond	the bar is 64x128 but liquid texture is 16x16
17:16	IcyDiamond	you get me?
17:18	IcyDiamond	can i use image[ formspec for lowpart?
17:18	rubenwardy	lowpart is a texture modifiier, and they can be used anywhere
17:18	rubenwardy	and I forget how to resize, will have to read the docs
17:19	rubenwardy	texture modifiers are kinda disgusting
17:19	IcyDiamond	or maybe i can use image[ itself for a progress thing?
17:19	IcyDiamond	i'd just have to take a percentage of the height
17:20	rubenwardy	that's what I usually do
17:20	rubenwardy	eg: see awards
17:20	IcyDiamond	ok cool
17:32	IcyDiamond	ok i suck at maths
17:32	IcyDiamond	dammit
17:32	IcyDiamond	why does anything i do never work
17:35	IcyDiamond	in theory it should work but it doesnt
17:35	IcyDiamond	goddamn
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18:24	IcyDiamond	formspec sucks
18:24	IcyDiamond	why cant we have a coordinate system that makes sense
18:24	rubenwardy	agreed
18:25	rubenwardy	there's an issue for it
18:25	rubenwardy	I suspect there will be a replacement in a year or so
18:25	rubenwardy	0.5.2
18:25	rubenwardy	\xo/
18:25	IcyDiamond	cool
18:25	rubenwardy	there's some real conversation at least
18:25	rubenwardy	but meh
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18:55	Fixer	when I first tried to look into some formspecs - I was horrified and decided not to
18:59	IcyDiamond	https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-04-01-21:58:45.png my metal melter
18:59	IcyDiamond	melts metals using lava
18:59	IcyDiamond	:)
19:03	IcyDiamond	i'll also add a casting block
19:03	IcyDiamond	but thats for another day
19:07	IcyDiamond	maybe i should try turning this into a multiblock
19:07	IcyDiamond	makes it less cheaty
19:07	IcyDiamond	dunno
19:08	IcyDiamond	can you even do multiblocks in minetest
19:11	kcorK	what's a multiblock
19:11	IcyDiamond	a machine that only works when it has certain blocks around it, i guess
19:11	kcorK	â€®that's a nice formspec btw :)
19:12	IcyDiamond	i tried my best
19:12	IcyDiamond	:P
19:12	kcorK	â€®oh, those blocks. in-game blocks
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19:20	IcyDiamond	I'd say my day of minetest modding was pretty successful
19:20	IcyDiamond	I added molten metals, tanks for every fluid and a metal melter
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20:39	blackGen	Hey, what's the maximum value for glow parameter of particle definitions?
20:39	blackGen	Can't seem to find it anywhere
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20:41	rdococ	hmm
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20:45	paramat	probably 14, like node light levels
20:46	paramat	but yes should be documented, and isn't
20:46	rdococ	Is there a way for the mod to determine what biome a certain position is in?
20:46	paramat	yes in 0.5.0dev
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20:47	rdococ	Oh, cool.
20:47	blackGen	Ok thanks
20:47	rdococ	paramat: do you know what function I should use?
20:49	rdococ	Found it
20:50	paramat	yes looking at code glow is max 14
20:50	paramat	ok
20:58	IcyDiamond	I love how helpful the people in this community are
20:58	IcyDiamond	I love y'all
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21:00	IcyDiamond	The devs are great people. If it were in my power, I'd give all of you financial support
21:00	IcyDiamond	This is not april fools joke
21:00	kcorK	<3 â™¡ â™¥ â¤ ðŸŽ”
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21:06	rdococ	> minetest.get_heat(pos)
21:06	rdococ	What range is the heat in?
21:07	Krock	0 and 100 as in the biome def I guess
21:07	Shara	from what I understand, it might be outside that though
21:07	Shara	but that's the normal range
21:08	rdococ	k.
21:09	paramat	mostly 0 to 100 but do exceed, extremes are -37.5 and 137.5
21:09	paramat	same for humidity
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21:10	paramat	Icy thanks for your appreciation, makes a nice change ;]
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21:10	rdococ	I'm thinking of creating a system (either ABM or VoxelManip) where dirt_with_grass that generates in cold biomes is recolored to have more blush grass, hot more yellowish, etc. like Minecraft's grass color variation
21:11	Shara	Depending on what you're attempting, isn't it simpler to just set the correct thing for the correct biome to begin with?
21:12	rdococ	true, but I don't think there's any way to modify a biome
21:12	Shara	Check register_decoration if you are thinking about at mapgen
21:12	rdococ	as in, I want to apply this to existing biomes instead of creating new ones
21:12	Shara	You specify the biomes you want a thing to appear in
21:13	Shara	Well, unless you are working with v6 mapgen, in which case you can cry instead :(
21:13	Shara	For everything else, you just need to check for the correct biome name and include it
21:14	paramat	there's a mod in the forum that does this, called 'luscious' i think
21:14	paramat	it uses hardware colouring
21:14	rdococ	paramat: found it
21:14	Shara	Yup, depending on the goal, that would be my next recomendation
21:15	IcyDiamond	paramat: you're very welcome my dude
21:16	paramat	it uses voxelmanip to place nodes at the stored 'heightmap' y values
21:18	rdococ	I once tried creating a volcano biome
21:18	rdococ	I don't think it ever appeared though
21:19	Shara	You need to make sure it's not using the same heat/humidity as an existing biome as well
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21:20	paramat	yes
21:21	paramat	biome point needs to be spaced nicely inbetween existing biome points
21:23	rdococ	the volcano biome had a warm temperature of ~75
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21:28	rdococ	interesting, biomes can now have x and z limits instead of just y limits?
21:29	rdococ	I could combine that with my timezones mod (which requires a time-offset fork made by someone whose name I forgot)
21:32	rdococ	hm, does "node_river_water = "default:lava_source"," work?
21:32	rdococ	not sure whether to put the _source
21:36	rubenwardy	rdococ: limits have hard lines
21:36	paramat	yes lava in rivers works
21:37	paramat	but 'river water' is only found in mgvalleys, it is specifically the water of sloping rivers, y > 1
21:37	paramat	mgv7 rivers contain 'node water' normal water
21:38	paramat	since they are at sea level
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21:43	rdococ	Huh, I found a valley that switches from regular water to river water
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21:53	rdococ	I can't seem to find the biome
21:54	rdococ	currently, heat is 100 and humidity is 0
21:58	MinetestBot	[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: LINT: add clang-tidy step (#6295) d88c4e1 https://git.io/vx6WR (2018-04-01T21:57:55Z)
21:58	Shara	rdococ: those are both values at the extreme ends of the scale, so no, you won't find them easily
21:59	Shara	Try more central values that are not exactly the same as something else
22:05	rdococ	Shara: the problem is that as it's a volcano, it's meant to be super hot and dry
22:07	Shara	yes, but for testing purposes, it's good if you can find it easily
22:08	Shara	And even then, you might wat to do something like 80 heat and 20 humitity
22:08	Shara	humidity*
22:08	Shara	Otherwise it might be so rare players never find it
22:08	Shara	But do check no other biome is using the same values you set
22:12	paramat	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=15939 current biome system
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22:26	rdococ	I used //lua to run a script that constantly teleports me until I end up in a volcano biome
22:26	rdococ	I'm still teleporting
22:43	rdococ	heat_point = 53.35,humidity_point = 45.54,
22:43	rdococ	My script still doesn't find any volcanoes.
22:49	Shara	rdococ: why not a whole number?
22:49	rdococ	I wonder if fractional numbers break it or something
22:50	Shara	No idea. Never tried
22:51	rdococ	I changed to 53, 47
22:51	rdococ	I cannot find it
22:52	rdococ	I'm using valleys mapgen
22:53	Shara	I'm not sure what else to suggest for you. Try deregistering all other biomes first to check you haven't got something other than the heat/humidity messed up?
22:54	Shara	Check ethereal if you need an example of how
22:54	Shara	I'm away for a while, but can try help some other time if you are really stuck
22:58	rdococ	Shara: I added minetest.clear_registered_biomes() to the top of the file, but that doesn't seem to have done anything.
22:59	rdococ	Nevermind, I added an optional dependency and newly generated chunks are volcano biome.
23:00	rdococ	(that dependency being 'default?')
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