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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Lua_api.txt: Improve noise documentation 5e2096e https://git.io/vxW8g (2018-03-22T02:36:52Z) |
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clavi |
would it be possible to encrypt Minetest chats and metadata like player position and nodes with TLS? |
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juli |
is it possible to remove a registered craft receipe somehow? |
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ThomasMonroe |
I don't think from in-game no |
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juli |
no i mean in a mod |
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juli |
like minetest.unregister_craft or something to make it just unuseable |
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Edgy1 |
juli, yes, where it says minetest.register_craft just remove that whole paragraph |
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juli |
lol haha |
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juli |
i don't wanna touch that mod that registered it |
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juli |
because i wanna unregister the torch |
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Edgy1 |
you dont need to just delete or modify the craft |
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juli |
hmm yes i need it, because i wanna replace the old torches with another node |
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Edgy1 |
ohhh |
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Edgy1 |
register an alias |
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juli |
so i need to register_alias(torch, newnode) but the craft will then make the new node, |
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juli |
and that is bad |
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Edgy1 |
im confused |
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Edgy1 |
what again are you looking to do |
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juli |
ok i'll explain it |
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juli |
i have a new node which should replace the torch., thats simple with alias |
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juli |
but if i do so, the craft receipe from torch will make the new node |
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Edgy1 |
so modify the torchs craft recipie |
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Edgy1 |
torch's* |
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juli |
yes but how without touching the default mod? |
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Edgy1 |
why are you afraid to touch the default mod? |
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Edgy1 |
lol |
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juli |
not realy but i like it more, if it would work without doing it |
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Edgy1 |
idk why you dont want to tho |
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Edgy1 |
because that's going to be the easiest way |
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Edgy1 |
just back it up lol |
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juli |
haha i have maybe 5 backups already |
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wimwim |
sorry about my nick changing |
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wimwim |
its another server lol |
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juli |
but the problem is, if i provide that mod and one wants to install it, he has to change the default mod too |
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wimwim |
oh that's whats going on |
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wimwim |
you are trying to get it to replace torches? |
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juli |
yes |
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wimwim |
what you could do instead: give out a modified fork of the default mod |
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wimwim |
with a different texture and craft etc |
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juli |
yes but then the people would have to install still 2 mods and remove the default from the minetest_game |
| 15:33 |
wimwim |
maybe |
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wimwim |
i dont think you can unregister craft |
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wimwim |
sadly |
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juli |
yes its not in the lua api |
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juli |
only thing i could do is then this: |
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juli |
i unregister the torch |
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juli |
and make an alias for a dummy node, which converts to the new via an abm |
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juli |
but thats a ugly solution |
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wimwim |
hmm |
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wimwim |
if its for my server of course i have no problem changing the minetest_game. if it is a mod im releasing maybe you could just not have it replace torches idk |
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juli |
its for mars |
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juli |
and i have to remove torches because they don't work on mars |
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juli |
there is no oxygen :) |
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wimwim |
ahh :) |
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wimwim |
there used to be "moontest" by moono whch was life on the moon |
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lumberJ |
juli, i think you can unregister the torch item (not craft), and then if the new mod has the same craft it won't matter |
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wimwim |
then he gave it to that guy you arent supposed to talk about in #minetest |
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wimwim |
same thing happened to landrush |
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juli |
ahh yes i know it |
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lumberJ |
minetest.unregister_item(name) |
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juli |
lumberJ: the problem: the torch craft doesn't work for an "LED" which is the new node |
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juli |
because why u would craft an "LED" from coal and stick? ^^ |
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lumberJ |
if you put default in the depends.txt it doesn't replace the old craft? |
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juli |
hmm? but btw. i have the solution: minetest.clear_craft(recipe) |
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juli |
yay: its now a 3 liner: |
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juli |
minetest.clear_craft({output="default:torch"}) |
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juli |
minetest.register_alias_force("default:torch", "marssurvive:led") |
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juli |
minetest.register_alias_force("default:torch_wall", "marssurvive:led") |
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Edgy1 |
yay :P |
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juli |
but the led is a bit big: its 1/3 of a block so 33 cm XD |
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twoelk |
well the torch fills a cube with sides of a meter |
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juli |
but this dimension is better, because normal torch is maybe 0.3m so: |
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juli |
torch: 0.3/1=0.3, led:0.005/0.3=0.1666 |
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juli |
*0.01666 |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Gitlab CI: Disable currently broken ubuntu 16.10 & 17.04 builds 8986a9e https://git.io/vxlQJ (2018-03-22T18:44:41Z) |
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Maxou56800 |
o/ |
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ThomasMonroe |
o/ |
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rubenwardy |
\o |
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Maxou56800 |
With the lastest build running on Debian, when I join any server I can't register my name. |
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Maxou56800 |
I type my password but when I click on "Register and join" nothing append |
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Maxou56800 |
Someone can help me ? |
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Maxou56800 |
(Minetest 0.5.0-dev-5e2096e3 |
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sfan5 |
try downgrading? |
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sfan5 |
if nothing helps report a bug |
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Fixer |
file a bug on github |
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Maxou56800 |
[20:09] <@sfan5> try downgrading? |
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Maxou56800 |
I would like to work with the latest build. |
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sfan5 |
it's still useful to know whether it worked before |
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Maxou56800 |
Its working only with empty password |
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Krock |
Maxou56800, what if you start a local server without announcing it to the server list and join with a new account to 127.0.0.1 <port> using a 2nd Minetest instance? Doesn't it work there either? |
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swift110 |
hey Krock |
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MinetestBot |
[git] numberZero -> minetest/minetest: Update mesh collector and move it to a separate file (#6904) 9fcc0c1 https://git.io/vxlx8 (2018-03-22T19:59:49Z) |
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Krock |
hey swift110 |
| 20:03 |
swift110 |
how are you Krock |
| 20:03 |
Krock |
fine, I guess? |
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swift110 |
good |
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ThomasMonroe |
how would you ban a ban-evading VPN player? |
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ThomasMonroe |
with a hacked client to boot |
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rubenwardy |
no good way |
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rubenwardy |
ban vpns would be a good start |
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ThomasMonroe |
how would you ban a VPN? |
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rubenwardy |
with difficulty |
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rubenwardy |
you basically need to have a massive ban list |
| 20:21 |
rubenwardy |
or ban commercial IPs (which would also stop MT being played at schools or companies" |
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Edgy1 |
why would you want to ban VPN's? |
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Edgy1 |
or are we talking about minetest-wide or just private servers? |
| 20:32 |
rubenwardy |
individual servers |
| 20:32 |
rubenwardy |
malicious players tend to use VPNs to get around bans |
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Edgy1 |
ah ok |
| 20:34 |
MinetestBot |
[git] Ezhh -> minetest/minetest_game: Hide fireflies during day time 465d8ca https://git.io/vx8em (2018-03-22T20:33:54Z) |
| 20:35 |
ThomasMonroe |
specifically `x e r o x 1 2 3` is causing a ton of trouble on my server |
| 20:35 |
rubenwardy |
oh lol |
| 20:35 |
ThomasMonroe |
YAY noice job Shara |
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rubenwardy |
butterflies when? <3 |
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Edgy1 |
so he's still doing it? |
| 20:35 |
Shara |
Ekk. |
| 20:35 |
rubenwardy |
😠|
| 20:35 |
Shara |
Thanks ThomasMonroe :) |
| 20:36 |
Shara |
And sorry to hear you are having ban-dodger issues |
| 20:36 |
Shara |
And... butterflies sometime? |
| 20:36 |
Edgy1 |
Linuxworks is dealing with Manaugh48. we had to ban an entire subnet |
| 20:37 |
Shara |
Sadly it only takes a few bad players to mess things up. |
| 20:37 |
Edgy1 |
true that |
| 20:38 |
ThomasMonroe |
well, it's not that x.e.r.o.x123 is a bad player, he's mad at Plebs, soo he's logging in and wreaking havoc in my server via bullying, vandalising, etc. |
| 20:39 |
rubenwardy |
up your moderators, I guess |
| 20:39 |
Edgy1 |
everyone is mad at plebs rn |
| 20:39 |
rubenwardy |
make it harder to vandalise by having protection |
| 20:39 |
Edgy1 |
almost |
| 20:39 |
Shara |
Maybe I remember wrong, but wasn't he one of your moderators or something? |
| 20:39 |
ThomasMonroe |
no, he was never one |
| 20:39 |
Edgy1 |
ThomasMonroe, he hosted your IRC though at one point |
| 20:39 |
Shara |
That would be the something then, I guess. |
| 20:39 |
ThomasMonroe |
rubenwardy, he's using a hacked client, soo, protection doesn't always work |
| 20:40 |
ThomasMonroe |
Edgy1, yeah, but I took my server off that when problems started |
| 20:40 |
Shara |
I've never actually seen a hacked client that can get around protection. |
| 20:40 |
Edgy1 |
all while he peacefully sits in Quertynet watching us all lolol |
| 20:40 |
rubenwardy |
ThomasMonroe: you have a buggy mod |
| 20:40 |
Edgy1 |
ThomasMonroe, ok |
| 20:40 |
ThomasMonroe |
probably |
| 20:41 |
ThomasMonroe |
havn't really had trouble with vandalism as in destroying, but rhather griefing the sky |
| 20:41 |
rubenwardy |
everything in Minetest apart from player physics and rendering is server |
| 20:41 |
rubenwardy |
everything in Minetest apart from player physics and rendering is server side |
| 20:41 |
Edgy1 |
^ |
| 20:41 |
rubenwardy |
so hacks can only change player physics to a degree, change rendering, or send malicious packets (bad form submits or chat messages)' |
| 20:42 |
Edgy1 |
in linuxworks we had someone teleport up high, use /killme, then teleport there again and set lava and water using their bones as a node, over spawn. |
| 20:42 |
rubenwardy |
oh wow |
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rubenwardy |
that's clever |
| 20:42 |
Edgy1 |
yeah |
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Edgy1 |
you should make it impossible to set nodes on bones while they contain stuff |
| 20:43 |
ThomasMonroe |
he's flying without the fly priv, and I'm assuming he has creative as well |
| 20:43 |
Edgy1 |
ThomasMonroe, not really, no. |
| 20:43 |
Edgy1 |
ThomasMonroe, i tried minehacker client before |
| 20:43 |
rubenwardy |
nope |
| 20:43 |
Edgy1 |
all you get is fast, fly, and noclip |
| 20:43 |
rubenwardy |
ThomasMonroe, read what I said |
| 20:43 |
Shara |
Better to get the facts than assume what can be done |
| 20:44 |
rubenwardy |
clients control player physics |
| 20:44 |
ThomasMonroe |
well he is flying I know that |
| 20:44 |
Edgy1 |
ThomasMonroe, yep that's easy |
| 20:44 |
rubenwardy |
the server controls creative |
| 20:44 |
Edgy1 |
oh AND |
| 20:44 |
Edgy1 |
it can dig stuff really fast without a pickaxe |
| 20:44 |
rubenwardy |
faking fly is super easy, as it's done client side |
| 20:44 |
rubenwardy |
anticheat is supposed to prevent that, right? |
| 20:44 |
Edgy1 |
rubenwardy, if it works |
| 20:44 |
rubenwardy |
so no then |
| 20:45 |
Edgy1 |
it doesnt always apparently |
| 20:46 |
ThomasMonroe |
I mean he and luk are pretty good programers, soo idk if they've found a way around that |
| 20:46 |
Edgy1 |
the nice thing is in los you can't set lava, but you can set water. i also had someone put snow on my house lol |
| 20:46 |
ThomasMonroe |
yeah that's true |
| 20:46 |
rubenwardy |
well |
| 20:46 |
rubenwardy |
make sure your mods are up to date |
| 20:46 |
rubenwardy |
like, creative and default |
| 20:46 |
ThomasMonroe |
right |
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rubenwardy |
with CSM things are being hardened |
| 20:47 |
ThomasMonroe |
they should be, I updated them quite recently |
| 20:47 |
Edgy1 |
minehacker.net used to have a client |
| 20:47 |
Edgy1 |
it went down for a while |
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Edgy1 |
the whole domain is down yeah |
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Edgy1 |
rubenwardy, i remember in the old days of minetest you would combine a texture pack and a csm and you could see through stone, nice for mining |
| 20:52 |
Edgy1 |
i wonder if that still works |
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sfan5 |
>old days |
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sfan5 |
>csm |
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sfan5 |
does not compute |
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Edgy1 |
hmm |
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Edgy1 |
depends how old you are talking |
| 20:53 |
Edgy1 |
forget me this is from 0.4.15 |
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Edgy1 |
that's fairly new |
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Edgy1 |
i remember back to .11 |
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Edgy1 |
rubenwardy, one time i had a player who i kicked for being afk and he rejoined automatically then i realized he had been on for 3 days straight and never dug any blocks or said anything. i checked his IP and it was Russian "Open resource stock company". he never even moved either |
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Edgy1 |
his username was "grocery" |
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paramat |
transparent texturepacks don't work anymore for cheating, we fixed that |
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Edgy1 |
nice |
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sofar |
Edgy1: there's various kick-on-idle mods out there to do this automatically |
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Edgy1 |
sofar, i know i remember linuxworks had it then took it off because it kicked people in trains |
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Edgy1 |
I could probalby use it in mine though :P |
| 21:12 |
Edgy1 |
however this guy auto rejoins apparently |
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Edgy1 |
and just stays for days without doing anything |
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sofar |
I have one on ITB. I think I look at player position |
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sofar |
so if you move it doesn't kick |
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rubenwardy |
afkkick |
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rubenwardy |
!mod [afkkick] |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Afk Kick [afkkick] Automatically kick afk players by GunshipPenguin - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=10919 |
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rubenwardy |
uses player controls |
| 21:21 |
rubenwardy |
works with most stupid bots |
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rubenwardy |
as they don't fake player controls |
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BillyS |
Wow, the Plebs debate has spread all the way to here? |
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BillyS |
I'm impressed |
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Edgy1 |
BillyS, ikr |
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rubenwardy |
who/what is Plebs? |
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Fixer |
Sheep? |
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Fixer |
those who are using Windows 10 |
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Fixer |
.____. |
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ThomasMonroe |
BillyS, I'm trying to protect my server now, this has nothing to do with the Plebs debate |
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Edgy1 |
a moderator on legends of survival that makes everyone mad |
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Edgy1 |
ThomasMonroe, good :P |
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Krock |
apparently someone who's hard to deal with |
| 21:25 |
ThomasMonroe |
yeah |
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Edgy1 |
ThomasMonroe, my opinion is otherwise |
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Edgy1 |
but doesnt really belong in #minetest :P |
| 21:26 |
ThomasMonroe |
true |
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Fixer |
BOTLIKE PLAYERS, BELIEVE |
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Fixer |
here is research idea for you (based on that BS hype), make a minetest bot that is trained via machine learning |
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BillyS |
TM, I see your point, but I think it still kinda is related to the Plebs debate, because xerox is attacking your server as a method of attacking Plebs. |
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BillyS |
Pretty sure he would target a different server if he was just messing around, and he wouldn't be as persistent either. |
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Edgy1 |
true |
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Edgy1 |
I'm sure if plebs was gone xerox would not be a problem. However, no matter the motivation, i don't believe griefing is the way to go. it is not being respectful. |
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Edgy1 |
so, I think both sides are in the wrong. |
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BillyS |
True |
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BillyS |
However, xerox doesn't have any other option AFAIK |
| 21:32 |
BillyS |
Plebs /ignore'd him, and he is banned from the game and IRC, so . . |
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Edgy1 |
BillyS, well thomas is claiming tha the is ban-evading, fly hacking, and griefing. |
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BillyS |
At any rate, I suspect it is basically a revenge story now. |
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Edgy1 |
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Edgy1 |
I can't verify that though |
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BillyS |
AKA "violent protest" :P |
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Edgy1 |
BillyS, yeah exactly |
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xerox123 |
it's pretty symbolic of how he decided to go up against us on my IRC network when tre's server used to be there |
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xerox123 |
he'd nitpick the network until things he didnt like were exactly how he wanted them |
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xerox123 |
I really would like to takethis to another channel, it doesnt belong here... |
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Edgy1 |
I agree too |
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Edgy1 |
i gotta go eat now ill be back |
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xerox123 |
that is, if you want to continue discussing it |
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BillyS |
cya |
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Edgy1 |
xerox123, i'm on QuertyNET on discord anyways. i never really heard your side of the story. |
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Edgy1 |
but i have to do stuff after a bit |
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blaise |
hey, did the announce server go offline? |
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sofar |
blaise: no, seems online |
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blaise |
I seem to have some kind of cowpocalyps going on on my server for some reason |
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blaise |
I think someone was breeding cows at an uncontrolled rate on my server.... :o |
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ThomasMonroe |
lol |
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ThomasMonroe |
its a cowtastrophe |
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blaise |
who would do that? |
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