Time Nick Message 02:38 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Lua_api.txt: Improve noise documentation 135e2096e https://git.io/vxW8g (152018-03-22T02:36:52Z) 13:30 clavi would it be possible to encrypt Minetest chats and metadata like player position and nodes with TLS? 15:21 juli is it possible to remove a registered craft receipe somehow? 15:22 ThomasMonroe I don't think from in-game no 15:23 juli no i mean in a mod 15:23 juli like minetest.unregister_craft or something to make it just unuseable 15:23 Edgy1 juli, yes, where it says minetest.register_craft just remove that whole paragraph 15:24 juli lol haha 15:24 juli i don't wanna touch that mod that registered it 15:24 juli because i wanna unregister the torch 15:25 Edgy1 you dont need to just delete or modify the craft 15:26 juli hmm yes i need it, because i wanna replace the old torches with another node 15:26 Edgy1 ohhh 15:26 Edgy1 register an alias 15:26 juli so i need to register_alias(torch, newnode) but the craft will then make the new node, 15:27 juli and that is bad 15:27 Edgy1 im confused 15:27 Edgy1 what again are you looking to do 15:27 juli ok i'll explain it 15:27 juli i have a new node which should replace the torch., thats simple with alias 15:28 juli but if i do so, the craft receipe from torch will make the new node 15:28 Edgy1 so modify the torchs craft recipie 15:28 Edgy1 torch's* 15:28 juli yes but how without touching the default mod? 15:28 Edgy1 why are you afraid to touch the default mod? 15:28 Edgy1 lol 15:29 juli not realy but i like it more, if it would work without doing it 15:29 Edgy1 idk why you dont want to tho 15:30 Edgy1 because that's going to be the easiest way 15:30 Edgy1 just back it up lol 15:30 juli haha i have maybe 5 backups already 15:30 wimwim sorry about my nick changing 15:30 wimwim its another server lol 15:31 juli but the problem is, if i provide that mod and one wants to install it, he has to change the default mod too 15:31 wimwim oh that's whats going on 15:31 wimwim you are trying to get it to replace torches? 15:32 juli yes 15:32 wimwim what you could do instead: give out a modified fork of the default mod 15:32 wimwim with a different texture and craft etc 15:32 juli yes but then the people would have to install still 2 mods and remove the default from the minetest_game 15:33 wimwim maybe 15:33 wimwim i dont think you can unregister craft 15:33 wimwim sadly 15:33 juli yes its not in the lua api 15:34 juli only thing i could do is then this: 15:34 juli i unregister the torch 15:35 juli and make an alias for a dummy node, which converts to the new via an abm 15:35 juli but thats a ugly solution 15:35 wimwim hmm 15:36 wimwim if its for my server of course i have no problem changing the minetest_game. if it is a mod im releasing maybe you could just not have it replace torches idk 15:36 juli its for mars 15:37 juli and i have to remove torches because they don't work on mars 15:37 juli there is no oxygen :) 15:37 wimwim ahh :) 15:37 wimwim there used to be "moontest" by moono whch was life on the moon 15:37 lumberJ juli, i think you can unregister the torch item (not craft), and then if the new mod has the same craft it won't matter 15:37 wimwim then he gave it to that guy you arent supposed to talk about in #minetest 15:38 wimwim same thing happened to landrush 15:38 juli ahh yes i know it 15:38 lumberJ minetest.unregister_item(name) 15:39 juli lumberJ: the problem: the torch craft doesn't work for an "LED" which is the new node 15:39 juli because why u would craft an "LED" from coal and stick? ^^ 15:40 lumberJ if you put default in the depends.txt it doesn't replace the old craft? 15:40 juli hmm? but btw. i have the solution: minetest.clear_craft(recipe) 15:49 juli yay: its now a 3 liner: 15:49 juli minetest.clear_craft({output="default:torch"}) 15:49 juli minetest.register_alias_force("default:torch", "marssurvive:led") 15:49 juli minetest.register_alias_force("default:torch_wall", "marssurvive:led") 15:50 Edgy1 yay :P 15:53 juli but the led is a bit big: its 1/3 of a block so 33 cm XD 15:57 twoelk well the torch fills a cube with sides of a meter 16:03 juli but this dimension is better, because normal torch is maybe 0.3m so: 16:03 juli torch: 0.3/1=0.3, led:0.005/0.3=0.1666 16:03 juli *0.01666 18:47 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Gitlab CI: Disable currently broken ubuntu 16.10 & 17.04 builds 138986a9e https://git.io/vxlQJ (152018-03-22T18:44:41Z) 18:57 Maxou56800 o/ 18:58 ThomasMonroe o/ 18:58 rubenwardy \o 19:07 Maxou56800 With the lastest build running on Debian, when I join any server I can't register my name. 19:07 Maxou56800 I type my password but when I click on "Register and join" nothing append 19:07 Maxou56800 Someone can help me ? 19:08 Maxou56800 (Minetest 0.5.0-dev-5e2096e3 19:09 sfan5 try downgrading? 19:09 sfan5 if nothing helps report a bug 19:12 Fixer file a bug on github 19:13 Maxou56800 [20:09] <@sfan5> try downgrading? 19:13 Maxou56800 I would like to work with the latest build. 19:13 sfan5 it's still useful to know whether it worked before 19:14 Maxou56800 Its working only with empty password 19:31 Krock Maxou56800, what if you start a local server without announcing it to the server list and join with a new account to 127.0.0.1 using a 2nd Minetest instance? Doesn't it work there either? 19:45 swift110 hey Krock 20:02 MinetestBot 02[git] 04numberZero -> 03minetest/minetest: Update mesh collector and move it to a separate file (#6904) 139fcc0c1 https://git.io/vxlx8 (152018-03-22T19:59:49Z) 20:03 Krock hey swift110 20:03 swift110 how are you Krock 20:03 Krock fine, I guess? 20:07 swift110 good 20:10 ThomasMonroe how would you ban a ban-evading VPN player? 20:10 ThomasMonroe with a hacked client to boot 20:13 rubenwardy no good way 20:13 rubenwardy ban vpns would be a good start 20:20 ThomasMonroe how would you ban a VPN? 20:20 rubenwardy with difficulty 20:20 rubenwardy you basically need to have a massive ban list 20:21 rubenwardy or ban commercial IPs (which would also stop MT being played at schools or companies" 20:31 Edgy1 why would you want to ban VPN's? 20:32 Edgy1 or are we talking about minetest-wide or just private servers? 20:32 rubenwardy individual servers 20:32 rubenwardy malicious players tend to use VPNs to get around bans 20:33 Edgy1 ah ok 20:34 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Ezhh -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Hide fireflies during day time 13465d8ca https://git.io/vx8em (152018-03-22T20:33:54Z) 20:35 ThomasMonroe specifically `x e r o x 1 2 3` is causing a ton of trouble on my server 20:35 rubenwardy oh lol 20:35 ThomasMonroe YAY noice job Shara 20:35 rubenwardy butterflies when? <3 20:35 Edgy1 so he's still doing it? 20:35 Shara Ekk. 20:35 rubenwardy 😍 20:35 Shara Thanks ThomasMonroe :) 20:36 Shara And sorry to hear you are having ban-dodger issues 20:36 Shara And... butterflies sometime? 20:36 Edgy1 Linuxworks is dealing with Manaugh48. we had to ban an entire subnet 20:37 Shara Sadly it only takes a few bad players to mess things up. 20:37 Edgy1 true that 20:38 ThomasMonroe well, it's not that x.e.r.o.x123 is a bad player, he's mad at Plebs, soo he's logging in and wreaking havoc in my server via bullying, vandalising, etc. 20:39 rubenwardy up your moderators, I guess 20:39 Edgy1 everyone is mad at plebs rn 20:39 rubenwardy make it harder to vandalise by having protection 20:39 Edgy1 almost 20:39 Shara Maybe I remember wrong, but wasn't he one of your moderators or something? 20:39 ThomasMonroe no, he was never one 20:39 Edgy1 ThomasMonroe, he hosted your IRC though at one point 20:39 Shara That would be the something then, I guess. 20:39 ThomasMonroe rubenwardy, he's using a hacked client, soo, protection doesn't always work 20:40 ThomasMonroe Edgy1, yeah, but I took my server off that when problems started 20:40 Shara I've never actually seen a hacked client that can get around protection. 20:40 Edgy1 all while he peacefully sits in Quertynet watching us all lolol 20:40 rubenwardy ThomasMonroe: you have a buggy mod 20:40 Edgy1 ThomasMonroe, ok 20:40 ThomasMonroe probably 20:41 ThomasMonroe havn't really had trouble with vandalism as in destroying, but rhather griefing the sky 20:41 rubenwardy everything in Minetest apart from player physics and rendering is server 20:41 rubenwardy everything in Minetest apart from player physics and rendering is server side 20:41 Edgy1 ^ 20:41 rubenwardy so hacks can only change player physics to a degree, change rendering, or send malicious packets (bad form submits or chat messages)' 20:42 Edgy1 in linuxworks we had someone teleport up high, use /killme, then teleport there again and set lava and water using their bones as a node, over spawn. 20:42 rubenwardy oh wow 20:42 rubenwardy that's clever 20:42 Edgy1 yeah 20:42 Edgy1 you should make it impossible to set nodes on bones while they contain stuff 20:43 ThomasMonroe he's flying without the fly priv, and I'm assuming he has creative as well 20:43 Edgy1 ThomasMonroe, not really, no. 20:43 Edgy1 ThomasMonroe, i tried minehacker client before 20:43 rubenwardy nope 20:43 Edgy1 all you get is fast, fly, and noclip 20:43 rubenwardy ThomasMonroe, read what I said 20:43 Shara Better to get the facts than assume what can be done 20:44 rubenwardy clients control player physics 20:44 ThomasMonroe well he is flying I know that 20:44 Edgy1 ThomasMonroe, yep that's easy 20:44 rubenwardy the server controls creative 20:44 Edgy1 oh AND 20:44 Edgy1 it can dig stuff really fast without a pickaxe 20:44 rubenwardy faking fly is super easy, as it's done client side 20:44 rubenwardy anticheat is supposed to prevent that, right? 20:44 Edgy1 rubenwardy, if it works 20:44 rubenwardy so no then 20:45 Edgy1 it doesnt always apparently 20:46 ThomasMonroe I mean he and luk are pretty good programers, soo idk if they've found a way around that 20:46 Edgy1 the nice thing is in los you can't set lava, but you can set water. i also had someone put snow on my house lol 20:46 ThomasMonroe yeah that's true 20:46 rubenwardy well 20:46 rubenwardy make sure your mods are up to date 20:46 rubenwardy like, creative and default 20:46 ThomasMonroe right 20:47 rubenwardy with CSM things are being hardened 20:47 ThomasMonroe they should be, I updated them quite recently 20:47 Edgy1 minehacker.net used to have a client 20:47 Edgy1 it went down for a while 20:48 Edgy1 the whole domain is down yeah 20:52 Edgy1 rubenwardy, i remember in the old days of minetest you would combine a texture pack and a csm and you could see through stone, nice for mining 20:52 Edgy1 i wonder if that still works 20:53 sfan5 >old days 20:53 sfan5 >csm 20:53 sfan5 does not compute 20:53 Edgy1 hmm 20:53 Edgy1 depends how old you are talking 20:53 Edgy1 forget me this is from 0.4.15 20:54 Edgy1 that's fairly new 20:54 Edgy1 i remember back to .11 20:56 Edgy1 rubenwardy, one time i had a player who i kicked for being afk and he rejoined automatically then i realized he had been on for 3 days straight and never dug any blocks or said anything. i checked his IP and it was Russian "Open resource stock company". he never even moved either 20:56 Edgy1 his username was "grocery" 21:08 paramat transparent texturepacks don't work anymore for cheating, we fixed that 21:10 Edgy1 nice 21:11 sofar Edgy1: there's various kick-on-idle mods out there to do this automatically 21:11 Edgy1 sofar, i know i remember linuxworks had it then took it off because it kicked people in trains 21:12 Edgy1 I could probalby use it in mine though :P 21:12 Edgy1 however this guy auto rejoins apparently 21:12 Edgy1 and just stays for days without doing anything 21:12 sofar I have one on ITB. I think I look at player position 21:12 sofar so if you move it doesn't kick 21:21 rubenwardy afkkick 21:21 rubenwardy !mod [afkkick] 21:21 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Afk Kick [afkkick] Automatically kick afk players by GunshipPenguin - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=10919 21:21 rubenwardy uses player controls 21:21 rubenwardy works with most stupid bots 21:21 rubenwardy as they don't fake player controls 21:22 BillyS Wow, the Plebs debate has spread all the way to here? 21:22 BillyS I'm impressed 21:22 Edgy1 BillyS, ikr 21:23 rubenwardy who/what is Plebs? 21:24 Fixer Sheep? 21:24 Fixer those who are using Windows 10 21:24 Fixer .____. 21:24 ThomasMonroe BillyS, I'm trying to protect my server now, this has nothing to do with the Plebs debate 21:24 Edgy1 a moderator on legends of survival that makes everyone mad 21:24 Edgy1 ThomasMonroe, good :P 21:25 Krock apparently someone who's hard to deal with 21:25 ThomasMonroe yeah 21:25 Edgy1 ThomasMonroe, my opinion is otherwise 21:25 Edgy1 but doesnt really belong in #minetest :P 21:26 ThomasMonroe true 21:26 Fixer BOTLIKE PLAYERS, BELIEVE 21:27 Fixer here is research idea for you (based on that BS hype), make a minetest bot that is trained via machine learning 21:27 BillyS TM, I see your point, but I think it still kinda is related to the Plebs debate, because xerox is attacking your server as a method of attacking Plebs. 21:28 BillyS Pretty sure he would target a different server if he was just messing around, and he wouldn't be as persistent either. 21:28 Edgy1 true 21:29 Edgy1 I'm sure if plebs was gone xerox would not be a problem. However, no matter the motivation, i don't believe griefing is the way to go. it is not being respectful. 21:29 Edgy1 so, I think both sides are in the wrong. 21:31 BillyS True 21:31 BillyS However, xerox doesn't have any other option AFAIK 21:32 BillyS Plebs /ignore'd him, and he is banned from the game and IRC, so . . 21:32 Edgy1 BillyS, well thomas is claiming tha the is ban-evading, fly hacking, and griefing. 21:32 BillyS At any rate, I suspect it is basically a revenge story now. 21:32 Edgy1  21:32 Edgy1 I can't verify that though 21:32 BillyS AKA "violent protest" :P 21:32 Edgy1 BillyS, yeah exactly 21:33 xerox123 it's pretty symbolic of how he decided to go up against us on my IRC network when tre's server used to be there 21:34 xerox123 he'd nitpick the network until things he didnt like were exactly how he wanted them 21:35 xerox123 I really would like to takethis to another channel, it doesnt belong here... 21:35 Edgy1 I agree too 21:35 Edgy1 i gotta go eat now ill be back 21:35 xerox123 that is, if you want to continue discussing it 21:35 BillyS cya 21:44 Edgy1 xerox123, i'm on QuertyNET on discord anyways. i never really heard your side of the story. 21:45 Edgy1 but i have to do stuff after a bit 23:02 blaise hey, did the announce server go offline? 23:05 sofar blaise: no, seems online 23:06 blaise I seem to have some kind of cowpocalyps going on on my server for some reason 23:06 blaise I think someone was breeding cows at an uncontrolled rate on my server.... :o 23:07 ThomasMonroe lol 23:07 ThomasMonroe its a cowtastrophe 23:11 blaise who would do that?